ZWAN/Billy Corgan/Smashing Pumpkins

Teddy · May 15, 2003, 07:59:46 PM

What do you think?

BonBon85 · May 15, 2003, 08:36:23 PM

My one problem with Zwan (and correct me if I'm wrong here): didn't Billy Corgan say the pumpkins broke up because he was unhappy with the state of music and that everything was turning pop? Well from what I've heard aren't Zwan's lyrics a little, erm, pop?

Sleuth · May 15, 2003, 09:27:38 PM

the Zwan CD is very very very very sugary

But I know that's not all they can do, so for future potential I choose "good"

European Son · May 15, 2003, 11:10:13 PM

They're merely good. Very good at times. But never great. I saw them in Atlanta, GA. It was a very fun show. Obviously they don't rise to the artistic heights of the Pumpkins, but I don't think that's what Billy is trying to do anymore. I think he's just trying to have fun now.

Mesh · May 16, 2003, 11:51:40 AM

Far better live than on Mary Star of the Sea.

Billy needs to hand their second album over to Pajo and Sweeney. They need to write songs, sing them, contribute more, be more present; until that happens, Zwan will always be "Smashing Pumpkins II: The Happy Era."

Teddy · May 18, 2003, 11:24:57 AM

Quote from: BonBon85My one problem with Zwan (and correct me if I'm wrong here): didn't Billy Corgan say the pumpkins broke up because he was unhappy with the state of music and that everything was turning pop? Well from what I've heard aren't Zwan's lyrics a little, erm, pop?

Very true, but from the time the Pumpkins disbanded to the time Zwan came together, Billy changed a lot. He has finally found some faith in something and now he is contributing what he feels to the music industry.

"Here comes my faith to carry me on."
"I declare myself of faith."
"What I want you can't fucking kill."

He has definately found something, and I love it.

abbey road · May 20, 2003, 11:26:12 AM

smashing pumpkins r one of my favorite bands of all time, and the first time i herd zwan i really hated it, mialy cause i was just expecting another pumpkins album, so it reely put me off. but now that ive given zwan another try i think thier really fantastic, not the pumpkins, but who will ever be, but definetly some great songs--- i love of a broken heart.

RegularKarate · May 20, 2003, 12:34:48 PM

My problem with this band is that Billy Corgan sings for it.

Corgan's a cock... Reason I could never get into the Pumpkins is his whiney pretentious ass wheezing out lyrics. They had some great songs that the music made up for the vocals, but so far, this Zwan is nothing new... after hearing about how Corgan was breaking barriers of rock, it's kind of funny... but yeah, he sings, so it sucks.

Teddy · May 23, 2003, 10:57:02 PM

The complaint about Corgan's voice is one of the main reasons some folks don't like the Pumpkins. His voice is an acquired taste, like Vanilla Coke. You either love it or you hate it. And if you love it, then you REALLY love it.

phil marlowe · September 15, 2003, 12:00:04 PM

good.

Dirk · September 15, 2003, 12:37:15 PM

Oh snap!

NEON MERCURY · September 15, 2003, 01:15:43 PM

fiddlesticks!

RegularKarate · September 15, 2003, 02:49:50 PM

After hearing this statement, 98% percent of America said "Wait... The Smashing Pumpkins broke up?"

Sleuth · September 15, 2003, 03:49:00 PM

Damnit. I wanted them to release their harsher stuff

smash · September 15, 2003, 06:19:15 PM

I'm sad that Zwan broke up, but I'm glad that Billy will finally do a solo album. I think it could be great.