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The Director's Chair => Quentin Tarantino => Topic started by: jenkins on December 03, 2017, 05:47:53 PM

Title: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on December 03, 2017, 05:47:53 PM
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Set in Los Angeles in the summer of 1969, Tarantino’s upcoming movie focuses on a male TV actor who’s had one hit series and is looking for a way to get into the film business. His sidekick—who’s also his stunt double—is looking for the same thing. The horrific murder of Sharon Tate and four of her friends by Charles Manson’s cult of followers serves as a backdrop to the main story.

August 9, 2019 release date. 50th anniversary of the Tate murders..

Budget estimated at $100mil. Production rumored for June 2018 in Los Angeles.

Brad Pitt is reportedly rumored for the detective role who investigates the murders; Jennifer Lawrence is repoedly rumored for a role as a member of the Manson Family; Margot Robbie will reportedly be doing the role of Sharon Tate.

Jared Leto stated on an interview Conan in 2017 that he was offered the role of Charles Manson.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: wilberfan on December 03, 2017, 06:10:19 PM
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Set in Los Angeles in the summer of 1969, Tarantino’s upcoming movie focuses on a male TV actor who’s had one hit series and is looking for a way to get into the film business. His sidekick—who’s also his stunt double—is looking for the same thing. The horrific murder of Sharon Tate and four of her friends by Charles Manson’s cult of followers serves as a backdrop to the main story.

Budget estimated at $100mil.

Jesus.  $100,000,000.00 is a lot of money. 
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Drenk on December 03, 2017, 06:42:20 PM
I hope Jared Leto won't be the new Mélanie Laurent.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: jenkins on December 03, 2017, 06:46:28 PM
i gotta admit that i wouldn't mind being generally bothered by the actor chosen to play Manson.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Lempwick on December 03, 2017, 11:59:17 PM
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Set in Los Angeles in the summer of 1969, Tarantino’s upcoming movie focuses on a male TV actor who’s had one hit series and is looking for a way to get into the film business. His sidekick—who’s also his stunt double—is looking for the same thing. The horrific murder of Sharon Tate and four of her friends by Charles Manson’s cult of followers serves as a backdrop to the main story.

August 9, 2019 release date. 50th anniversary of the Tate murders..

Budget estimated at $100mil. Production rumored for June 2018 in Los Angeles.

Brad Pitt is reportedly rumored for the detective role who investigates the murders; Jennifer Lawrence is repoedly rumored for a role as a member of the Manson Family; Margot Robbie will reportedly be doing the role of Sharon Tate.

Jared Leto stated on an interview Conan in 2017 that he was offered the role of Charles Manson.

For the Mary Harron film presumably, not this. 
Title: Re: #9
Post by: jenkins on December 04, 2017, 12:03:22 AM
that's a nice catch
Title: Re: #9
Post by: jenkins on January 13, 2018, 01:03:28 PM
EXCLUSIVE (http://deadline.com/2018/01/leonardo-dicaprio-quentin-tarantino-manson-movie-casting-1202241971/): Leonardo DiCaprio has said yes to starring in Quentin Tarantino’s new movie, which will reteam the actor and director from 2012’s Django Unchained. The new film, Tarantino’s ninth as director, was scooped up by Sony and already has an August 9, 2019 release date. The deal is expected to close soon, and this will become DiCaprio’s first film since he won the Oscar for The Revenant.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Robyn on February 02, 2018, 09:51:59 AM
more on leo's role (http://deadline.com/2018/01/leo-dicaprio-quentin-tarantino-film-gender-argument-wrong-mark-wahlberg-michelle-williams-all-the-money-in-the-world-1202244988/)

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What he plays, more specifically, is an actor who had his own Western show, Bounty Law, that ran on the air from 1958 to 1963. His attempt to transition to movies didn’t work out and in 1969 — the film is set at the height of hippy Hollywood movement– he’s guesting on other people’s shows while contemplating going to Italy which has become a hotbed for low-budget Westerns.

Title: Re: #9
Post by: Something Spanish on February 07, 2018, 12:41:51 PM
Ya’ll think SONY will drop #9 now after his ignorant defense of Polanski in 03 has resurfaced? Shouldn’t all of the Academy voters who awarded him best director that year also get equally slammed? It’s crazy when a 15 year old Howard Stern interview can tank your $100 milli movie.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: jenkins on February 07, 2018, 03:02:38 PM
idk, no one knows. adding to the complexity of the situation is the fact that Polanski deserves sympathy regarding the murder of Sharon Tate. i don't even like to type that sentence but of course he does. i don't like to type that sentence because potential sympathy for Polanski doesn't outweigh, isn't more important than, the tragedy of Sharon Tate's murder. the cause is more devastating than the effect.

and the problem is that illuminating that type of sympathy, provoking that type of sympathy, misplaces emotions for a man who committed an indefensible act. so even if QT wipes away his defense, there's still the matter of Polanski in his movie. although it's better for both him and us that this is being considered sooner rather than later, it's not an easy situation.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: eward on February 28, 2018, 10:06:38 PM
"Once Upon a Time In Hollywood"

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/brad-pitt-leonardo-dicaprio-quentin-tarantinos-manson-movie-1202713925/ (http://variety.com/2018/film/news/brad-pitt-leonardo-dicaprio-quentin-tarantinos-manson-movie-1202713925/)

Oh, I'm excited.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: ono on February 28, 2018, 10:15:00 PM
Bad title.  Cliche, overlong, and doesn't tell you much of anything.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 01, 2018, 01:33:05 PM
Title isn't great, but he's such a Leone disciple that his career dictated he had to use a variation of "Once Upon A Time" at some point. Just getting it out of the way here.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: eward on March 01, 2018, 04:22:19 PM
I dig it. Ten years ago I might have scoffed, but not now. (Frankly, I think #9 would have worked as a title, too.)
Title: Re: #9
Post by: jenkins on March 02, 2018, 05:58:19 PM
in many other holly scenarios DiCaprio and Pitt would be friends in some lame ass movie i couldn't give two fucks about, and it's because of QT that i can imagine this movie feeling another way.

the choice of Once Upon a Time In Hollywood taps into a global cultural identity which is always a bit lame and totally always what QT does i think it has a shade of beauty.

so they live next to Polanski/Tate's home. Polanski's name is still mentioned. only QT. if everyone'll commit to it he'll pull it off in some way i'm not currently imagining from his specific perspective.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: OpO1832 on March 06, 2018, 01:05:12 PM
Sharon Tate used to work out with Bruce Lee who played Kato in Green Hornet I would kill for a Bruce Lee cameo
By 1970 the Spaghetti western was dead so perhaps we can get them thinking about going to Italy to shoot one
Blaxploitation films were about to be big

anyone got the script
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Robyn on March 09, 2018, 10:58:49 AM
tarantino titles is always the least surprising thing ever. this is the 4th title a row that is almost completely stolen.

i'm expecting a huge box office success despite the backlash. maybe his biggest ever? the cast seems to be ridiculously a-list.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: jenkins on March 13, 2018, 03:01:00 PM
(https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/margot-robbie-sharon-tate.jpg)

EXCLUSIVE: Deadline broke last July 11 that Quentin Tarantino had met with Margot Robbie and asked her to play Sharon Tate in his next film. She now has the offer and negotiations are underway to make it a reality. (http://deadline.com/2018/03/margot-robbie-sharon-tate-quentin-tarantino-film-leonardo-dicaprio-brad-pitt-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-1202336947/)
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Drenk on March 13, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
What if it does his old trick again and she is saved by the power of cinema...I really dislike this aspect of Basterds.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: WorldForgot on March 13, 2018, 06:00:27 PM
Roman Dies and Sharon Lives
Title: Re: #9
Post by: eward on March 13, 2018, 06:03:38 PM
I wonder if the actual murders will be depicted. I kind of hope not. I’ve gotten to know the case pretty intimately as of the last year or so and shudder at the thought of a typically Tarantinoan depiction of these sad, unspeakably horrifying crimes. I somehow doubt he’d get too revisionist with it, though, a la Basterds. We’ll see.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Drenk on March 13, 2018, 07:21:42 PM
From what I understand, it will be in the background. I can imagine the main characters going to a Sharon Tate party, really excited about it, etc.
Title: Re: #9
Post by: Reelist on March 13, 2018, 08:46:10 PM
I’ve had an image in my head of Leo casually strolling down the road and there seems to be a big calamity going on in the house, but knowing their antics as neighbors he assumes it’s a rollicking party that’s just gotten a wee bit out of control..
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 02, 2018, 09:17:00 PM



Also, isn't it time we changed the title of this thread to "Once Upon a Time In Hollywood" ?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on May 08, 2018, 05:13:31 PM
Wow.  I'd love to see Reynolds as Spahn!  (Although given his famous sour-pussery with Boogie Nights, hard to imagine he'd be comfortable with sexy Manson Girl scenes.  Still.  I'd love to see him in the part.)

Quentin Tarantino Cast Thickens: Burt Reynolds To Star, Tim Roth, Kurt Russell, Michael Madsen Play Small Roles


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EXCLUSIVE: Quentin Tarantino is expanding the cast of his upcoming film Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. He is in talks with Burt Reynolds to play George Spahn, and also in early discussions with his The Hateful Eight co-stars Tim Roth, Kurt Russell and Michael Madsen to play smaller roles in the film. They would join Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt, who are already set.


Reynolds has a great role in front of him, maybe the best one the iconic Deliverance star has gotten since Boogie Nights. Spahn was an 80-year old near blind man who rented his LA ranch out to be used as the location for Westerns. Charlie Manson convinced Spahn to allow him and his followers to live on the ranch, in the months before they murdered Sharon Tate and six others. In exchange for rent, Manson coerced his female followers into hopping into bed with the ranch owner, and serving as his seeing eye guides, per reports.


Source (https://deadline.com/2018/05/quentin-tarantino-burt-reynolds-george-spahn-manson-ranch-owner-tim-roth-kurt-russell-michael-madsen-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-sony-1202385014/)
Source (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/burt-reynolds-talks-join-leonardo-dicaprio-quentin-tarantinos-manson-movie-1109749)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 08, 2018, 06:05:28 PM
Would Michael Madsen still have a career without QT?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Reelist on May 09, 2018, 11:40:16 AM
Yes, because he’s admitted he’ll take practically any role in order to pay for his 2 houses and feed his 6 kids. Scroll through his IMDB, the most recent 20 titles are laughable
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 09, 2018, 12:48:36 PM
I hope these are small roles indeed because I wanna see some new faces in a Tarantino film. not super exited about the cast so far.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Fitzroy on May 09, 2018, 01:02:46 PM
Yes, because he’s admitted he’ll take practically any role in order to pay for his 2 houses and feed his 6 kids. Scroll through his IMDB, the most recent 20 titles are laughable

The Hateful Eight was the last thing I saw him in, but between films, TV shows and video game voice overs he’s had some 40 gigs since then!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: polkablues on May 09, 2018, 02:03:16 PM
There's a certain lower-middle class of actor, primarily dudes in their 40s-60s who have name recognition from previous success, who currently make a living by simply having a set price for their services and then accepting literally any production that is willing to pay it. Madsen, Tom Sizemore, Eric Roberts, Matthew Modine, my Close Personal Friend Casper Van Dien.... They get to pay their bills, a bunch of low-budget movies increase their selling power by putting a recognizable name and face on the poster, everybody wins.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 09, 2018, 03:08:50 PM
There's a certain lower-middle class of actor, primarily dudes in their 40s-60s who have name recognition from previous success, who currently make a living by simply having a set price for their services and then accepting literally any production that is willing to pay it. Madsen, Tom Sizemore, Eric Roberts, Matthew Modine, my Close Personal Friend Casper Van Dien.... They get to pay their bills, a bunch of low-budget movies increase their selling power by putting a recognizable name and face on the poster, everybody wins.

I recently heard an old interview with Clifton Collins Jr. where he said he made about $40,000 a year, being paid scale, before agent fees and union dues. He said only the DDLs of the world can afford to do a movie every few years. "The rest of us need to take what we can get" etc. This was after he had been in the Star Trek reboot.

Edit: Here's that interview: http://www.slashfilm.com/the-filmcast-bonus-episode-an-evening-with-actor-clifton-collins-jr-man-of-a-thousand-faces/
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Bleep on May 19, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
P.S. IMDb:

Status: Filming.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on June 27, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pG5XdVJ.png)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on June 27, 2018, 01:48:06 PM
good looking dudes that!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: BB on June 28, 2018, 11:58:54 PM
Anyone else thinking this might be a horror movie? Structured like Pulp Fiction like they said, but not played especially funny. Some good buddy-buddy banter of course, but its treatment of the murders and their aftermath could be done in a Polanski-esque fashion.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on July 20, 2018, 06:38:24 PM
Made a visit to the Hollywood Blvd set today (because, how many chances to do that will I get?).  They were shooting interiors inside Musso Franks all day, but I'm fascinated by film sets--and curious to the point of annoyance--so I had no trouble entertaining myself talking to crew, security, etc.  Spotted Kurt and Brad when the company broke for lunch.  Knew I had to stay cool, photo-wise around them, but took some shots (https://photos.app.goo.gl/d7foaxxTTjLQgvpv8) of the work being done to get ready for the exterior shooting next week.


[edit] A much better set of photos (https://www.facebook.com/brian.donnelly.98/media_set?set=a.10217690818928887.1073743033.1432335358&type=1&l=9399d163eb&hc_location=ufi) (via Brian Donnelly).
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on July 24, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
Sharon Tate’s Sister Gives Blessing To Quentin Tarantino’s ‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’ (https://theplaylist.net/tate-tarantino-once-upon-set-video-20180724/)

Debra Tate says that Tarantino explained the plot to put her mind at ease. She says, “This movie is not what people would expect it to be when you combine the Tarantino and Manson names.” Debra Tate is also pleased that Sony moved the release date up a couple weeks, to avoid the 50th anniversary, saying that the original August 2019 date was “tacky and exploitative.”

wilbderfan gave us the photos, here's the video

Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on August 13, 2018, 09:50:22 PM
Hope this isn't too Reddit-y, but here's a somewhat comprehensive musing on QT's latest.




Everything We Know – And What We Can Piece Together – About Tarantino’s ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ (https://www.slashfilm.com/everything-we-know-about-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood)  (Slashfilm)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on August 16, 2018, 03:26:17 AM
Quentin Tarantino says "fuck it," sticks Bruce Lee in his latest movie (https://news.avclub.com/quentin-tarantino-finally-gets-to-just-straight-up-stic-1828372268)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on August 23, 2018, 02:16:27 AM
Lena Dunham Joins Quentin Tarantino’s ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ (https://variety.com/2018/film/news/lena-dunham-quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-1202914898/)

Lena Dunham, Austin Butler, Maya Hawke, and Lorenza Izzo have joined the cast of Quentin Tarantino’s “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.”

Dunham will be playing a character named Gypsy. Hawke has been cast as the fictional character Flower Child and Izzo will portray Francesca Capucci, a glamorous Italian movie star.

The cast also includes Margot Robbie as Tate, Luke Perry, Damian Lewis, Dakota Fanning, Al Pacino, Emile Hirsch, Clifton Collins Jr., Tim Roth, Michael Madsen, Keith Jefferson, and Nicholas Hammond.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on August 23, 2018, 06:34:35 AM
Wow. Eager to see how that plays out. For some reason I carry around generally ambivalent feelings about Dunham, but always wind up liking her whenever I see her in anything.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Reelist on August 23, 2018, 12:04:24 PM
She’s got a 60’s face
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Fernando on August 24, 2018, 03:06:29 PM
I think she will play one of Manson's droogs.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on August 24, 2018, 03:33:37 PM
Lena Dunham in Girls was constantly amazing. She could rock some Tarantino dialogue. But I think she'll get a minor role? I hope not.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on August 24, 2018, 06:23:25 PM
Dunham will be playing a character named Gypsy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Share).
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on August 25, 2018, 08:12:06 AM
Dunham will be playing a character named Gypsy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Share).

Okay, now I'm genuinely excited.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on August 25, 2018, 06:28:47 PM
wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time_in_Hollywood) has all kinds of information about this:

Leonardo DiCaprio as Rick Dalton:
An actor who starred in the Western television series Bounty Law from 1958 to 1963. His attempt to transition to movies did not work out and in 1969, he is struggling, guesting on other people's shows while contemplating going to Italy – which has become a hotbed for low-budget Westerns. He is neighbors with Sharon Tate.

Brad Pitt as Cliff Booth:
Rick's longtime stunt double and close friend.

Margot Robbie as Sharon Tate:
A pregnant actress married to Roman Polanski, who was murdered in her home by followers of Charles Manson.

Burt Reynolds as George Spahn:
An 80-year-old nearly blind man who rented his LA ranch out to be used as a location for Westerns. Manson convinced Spahn to allow him and his followers to live on the ranch, in the months before they murdered Sharon Tate and six others. In exchange for rent, Manson coerced his female followers into hopping into bed with the ranch owner, and serving as his seeing eye guides.

Damian Lewis as Steve McQueen:
An actor and friend of Jay Sebring, who was invited by him to the home of Sharon Tate for a dinner party, but he was unable to show up.

Luke Perry as Wayne Maunder:
An actor who co-starred on the western television series Lancer.

Emile Hirsch as Jay Sebring:
A Hollywood hairstylist and friend of Sharon Tate who was murdered in the home of Tate by followers of Charles Manson.

Dakota Fanning as Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme:
A member of the infamous "Manson family" who obtained her nickname whilst living on George Spahn's ranch. She was not directly involved in the Tate murders.

Nicholas Hammond as Sam Wanamaker:
An actor-director who, in 1969, began a campaign to rebuild the Shakespeare's Globe in London.

Al Pacino as Marvin Shwarz:
Rick Dalton's agent.

Scoot McNairy as Business Bob Gilbert:
A fictional cowboy character on Bounty Law.

Spencer Garrett as Allen Kincade:
The television personality and interviewer to Hollywood’s elite.

Mike Moh as Bruce Lee:
The international actor-stuntman who choreographed fight scenes for The Wrecking Crew, which starred Sharon Tate. Following her murder, he attended her funeral and was also privately investigated.

Lena Dunham as Catherine Share:
A member of the "Manson family" who was not directly involved with the Tate murders.

Austin Butler as Charles "Tex" Watson:
A central member of the "Manson family" who, alongside three other members, was directly involved in the Tate murders.

s/o to this unexplained portion:

Keith Jefferson as Land Pirate Keith
Eddie Perez as Land Pirate Eddie
Maurice Compte as Land Pirate Mao
Lew Temple as Land Pirate Lew
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: BB on August 27, 2018, 01:30:26 AM

Burt Reynolds as George Spahn:
An 80-year-old nearly blind man who rented his LA ranch out to be used as a location for Westerns. Manson convinced Spahn to allow him and his followers to live on the ranch, in the months before they murdered Sharon Tate and six others. In exchange for rent, Manson coerced his female followers into hopping into bed with the ranch owner, and serving as his seeing eye guides


This intrigues me.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on August 27, 2018, 09:15:08 PM
I was hoping George might appear in this, but alas.


Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on August 27, 2018, 11:54:11 PM
That was awesome.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on August 28, 2018, 01:33:19 AM
Wonder if Burt will lose the mustache?


(https://i.imgur.com/2lUlAyR.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/QmCgozM.jpg)


My understanding is that "Squeaky" got her nickname because of the noises she'd make when Spahn goosed her.  [shudder]
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on August 28, 2018, 11:07:58 PM
QT has cast his Roman Polanski (http://collider.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-roman-polanski-actor/): Rafal Zawierucha (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4027445/).
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Reelist on August 29, 2018, 12:18:38 PM
Anyone wanna take a stab at who’s playing Manson?

I think you could ugly up Joseph Gordon Levitt enough to pull it off..
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on August 29, 2018, 03:39:53 PM
A fat Jimmy Fallon is.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on August 29, 2018, 03:41:09 PM
Anyone wanna take a stab at who’s playing Manson?

Funny you should ask.

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Finds Its Charles Manson in ‘Justified’ Actor

[ Damon Herriman ]

link (https://www.slashfilm.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-cast-damon-herriman/)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Reelist on August 29, 2018, 04:56:16 PM
Oh yeah, no uglying required there
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: BigSock on September 16, 2018, 04:33:07 AM
Bruce Dern is replacing Burt, isn’t he? I’d love Keitel, De Niro, or Jack if he can somehow get Nicholson out of retirement
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on September 27, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
yeah. Bruce Dern Replaces His Friend Burt Reynolds In Quentin Tarantino’s ‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’ (https://deadline.com/2018/09/bruce-dern-replaces-burt-reynolds-quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-1202471986/)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Reelist on September 27, 2018, 01:59:24 PM
It’s hard to even tell what George Spahn looked like, every picture of him he’s wearing giant sunglasses. You just need to be wrinkly and wear a cowboy hat to pull it off. Character description: old as FUCK
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 18, 2019, 06:43:52 PM
We gonna talk about the poster?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on March 18, 2019, 06:54:38 PM
We gonna talk about the poster?

That doesn't look like a "period piece" at all. Very weird choice.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: polkablues on March 18, 2019, 06:56:35 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/HxQvYUc.jpg)

Jesus Christ, that Photoshop work is egregious.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 18, 2019, 07:05:12 PM
Yeah, it's bad, but hopefully just a placeholder for better things to come. Have the ad campaigns for any of QT's films ever been notably beautiful though? I can only recall (without searching Google) rather unoffensive but still sorta standard-looking promos for most of his shit.

EDIT: just checked out the teaser posters for his last 4 films: all brilliant. WTF is up with this shit?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 18, 2019, 07:05:36 PM
The possibilities are endless, still they went for this generic looking shit? Of all the things they could have made, this is what they decided on? What's going on with Brad Pitt's face/hair?

Tarantino's movies has surprisingly bad posters in general. I guess the last great one was Death Proof?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on March 18, 2019, 07:07:39 PM
It's just a teaser poster, but for a movie that huge it's weird that they let an intern make it during his/her lunch break.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: polkablues on March 18, 2019, 07:18:54 PM

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I can't believe the new Quentin Tarantino movie is a secret Netflix Adam Sandler flick!

(https://i.imgur.com/CoIPiCC.jpg)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 19, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
It's outrageous, egregious, preposterous!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Something Spanish on March 19, 2019, 10:47:58 AM
That's Once Upon a Time in...Hollywood, My Boy! The 9th film from Quentin Tarantino.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 19, 2019, 12:16:36 PM
You think his next film will be promoted as the "The LAST film from Quentin Tarantino"? I mean, he has been putting that "the -th" film on the posters since Kill Bill and hyped the "only 10 films" for years now.

It will be interesting to see what he believes to be a worthwhile swan song in his filmography. I could see him wanting to do a trilogy with either Kill Bill or a third western, but at the same time that would be kind of underwhelming imo. He'll probably make TV shows after he's done making movies and I would rather see a Kill Bill TV show at some point.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on March 19, 2019, 12:31:51 PM
He'll recognize that making underwhelming films late in your career is also the sign of a great filmaker.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 19, 2019, 12:42:16 PM
So The Vega Brothers starring John Travolta and Michael Madsen or Cowgirls in Sweden it is!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 19, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
This was never posted here, right?
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/preview-quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood

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Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on March 19, 2019, 01:43:29 PM
Man, that Hullaballoo shot is killer. 
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 19, 2019, 03:05:00 PM
Why does he have Ridley Scott operating a boom mic?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 19, 2019, 06:48:44 PM
You think his next film will be promoted as the "The LAST film from Quentin Tarantino"? I mean, he has been putting that "the -th" film on the posters since Kill Bill and hyped the "only 10 films" for years now. .

I really hope so, and then when he inevitably caves and makes an 11th, he can bill it on screen as The 2nd 1st Film From Quentin Tarantino
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Reelist on March 19, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
You think his next film will be promoted as the "The LAST film from Quentin Tarantino"? I mean, he has been putting that "the -th" film on the posters since Kill Bill and hyped the "only 10 films" for years now. .

I really hope so, and then when he inevitably caves and makes an 11th, he can bill it on screen as The 2nd 1st Film From Quentin Tarantino

What if he goes under a pseudonym as some hot new director and we don’t find out until 20 years later?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on March 19, 2019, 07:22:55 PM
But then he names a movie Feet Fest and he's unmasked.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 19, 2019, 07:42:53 PM
Once Upon a Toe...In Hollywood
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Post by: eward on March 20, 2019, 08:19:49 AM
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on March 20, 2019, 08:29:19 AM
Hmmm. That teaser made me think that it might be...not good.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 20, 2019, 08:31:47 AM
Really? I’m digging it.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on March 20, 2019, 08:42:47 AM
"Not good" for Tarantino. So, you know, still very enjoyable. But I thought The Hateful Eight would suck and it's probably my favorite Tarantino with Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction.  :)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 20, 2019, 08:47:57 AM
I was very surprised by Hateful 8 too. But I’ve only seen the 70mm Roadshow version, no idea how it plays small.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Something Spanish on March 20, 2019, 09:57:49 AM
digging it myself, looks like a fun romp, though hard to get a firm grasp based on the teaser.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on March 20, 2019, 10:04:12 AM
"Not good" for Tarantino. So, you know, still very enjoyable. But I thought The Hateful Eight would suck and it's probably my favorite Tarantino with Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction.  :)

Nothing in that trailer that makes me any less excited to see the film opening weekend, come July.  I'm a bit biased, though.  Quentin shot all over L.A. for several months (!), and I hung around a few of the sets here and there (particularly the Hollywood Blvd stuff). And, having grown up in L.A. (I was actually attending Hollywood High in '69) it should be a nostalgic hoot to see it all again thru Richardson's lenses.

I was really looking forward to Hateful Eight, tho, too, and found that a massive disappointment, so I guess I'll have to be prepared for that possibility as well.

The trailer seems to be restating most what we've been told already?  "Tarantino! Big stars! Vintage Hollywood! Charlie Manson & The Girls!"  It looks cool, and that's a bonus. 

Did anyone else think first viewing that Leo was channeling Kurt Russell there at the end...?  (I thought it was Kurt for a second...)   And, an awesome Bruce Lee!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Lottery on March 20, 2019, 10:11:56 AM
Looks different, which is more than welcome when it comes to Tarantino.

Perhaps this trailer is presenting the film more to be more comedic/fun than it actually is? Will the upcoming trailers be darker and more sinister?
I was hoping to see QT break new ground emotionally/thematically with this one.

I foresee Brad Pitt being amazing in this.

Also, holy heck that Bruce Lee impression.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Something Spanish on March 20, 2019, 10:24:52 AM
wilber, any recollections of the vibes around town after the murders?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 20, 2019, 10:46:09 AM
It didn't cure my depression, so I'm disappointed.

No, it looks great. You would think this was mostly about Pitt/Dicaprio, but remember the gigantic fucking cast in this? And the Inglourious Basterds teaser? It didn't show anything else besides Brad Pitt being cool and killing nazis. I'm sure Margot Robbie will have more things to do then to walk around and look pretty.

Still curious how the hell this will pan out.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on March 20, 2019, 11:21:41 AM
wilber, any recollections of the vibes around town after the murders?


My personal vibe was one of...concern?...especially following the LaBianca murder the following night.  I lived in the suburbs so felt somehow safer (even tho we were literally just over the hill in the Valley from both).  I didn't think I was in imminent danger--L.A. was such a gigantic fucking place you feel like the odds were pretty low you'd be next--but it certainly got your attention.   Both Mom and Dad were in the biz--but I don't remember overhearing any more-concerned-than-usual conversations from them about the murders.  A lot of shit had gone down by the late 60s--culturally, politically--at some point you just sorta surfed each new, holy-fuck news story as they came along. 
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: WorldForgot on March 20, 2019, 12:42:56 PM
Yayy!!!!! Two of my friendz ended up on the trailer! Kansas is in two of the shotz ~
So excited to watch this jubilant film -- gives me the same vibe the inglorious teaser did, and that one had an even cheesier smirk on -- Isn't Sharon smiling? Could this be another re-written revenge? Excited for this film's turnz.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 20, 2019, 07:51:33 PM
Maybe Bruce Lee saves Sharon Tate...? A dopey projection that seems to be going around Twitter. Mostly at a jest, but still :doh:

I can’t imagine a scenario re: OUATIH in which fucking around with the established facts of this particular case could ever be pulled off successfully. With Hitler it’s one thing, blow him to bits yay!!!! but these were innocent people - she was 8 months pregnant for fucksake - how could it come off as anything but in poor taste? I don’t see it working. I certainly don’t believe Sharon’s sister would have approved the script if that were the case. And furthermore if the murders were ultimately prevented, the Family would have no historical/dramatic value or relevance.

I don’t buy it!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 20, 2019, 08:09:56 PM
No fucking way will that happen. That's ridiculous, right?

The holocaust was a mass tragedy. If you turn that into a revenge story, then fine. Everyone will think it's a blast. But this is like an intimate murder... how could you watch these pictures of Sharon Tate and be like "oh, I'm gonna turn this into some fucking revenge fantasy"? I mean, maybe he will do that,  but then he have to be tasteful about it. And i'm not sure how that is possible.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 20, 2019, 08:11:31 PM
Idk, he is for sure walking on a thin line here... hopefully he'll manage to pull it off somehow.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 20, 2019, 08:38:34 PM
I have faith. My feeling is more the murder happens and then Leo and Brad low-key start investigating the crime themselves, stumbling across Spahn Ranch, the Family, etc... It was a stretch of three or four months post-Tate/Labianca before Susan Atkins started blabbing and Charlie and Co. were fingered for the murders. Lots of rogue investigating crews were sniffing around LA fall of 69. Roman Polanski hired people; Paul Tate conducted his own personal investigation; I feel like Warren Beatty and Jack Nicholson funded something similar...perhaps Leo and Brad get caught up in a scenario like that? Brad, as seen in the trailer, fake-fights Bruce Lee with seeming success, and Bruce Lee coached/was friendly with Sharon Tate - perhaps he introduces the two of them?

It's fun to speculate.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 20, 2019, 08:56:09 PM
She's not pregnant in any of the videos/pictures of her, so I'm thinking it will happen towards the end?

All of his recent films has been about the violence, ending with big shoutouts/very violent climaxes. Hopefully this is a return to the hangout vibe we saw in Pulp Fiction/Death Proof/Jackie Brown. These films were violent for sure, but the violence wasn't in the foreground like in Django/Basterds/H8. I am thinking that it will mostly happen in the western series within the film/in the background.

Robert Richardson described it as a very different film with a lot of small set pieces in it, which makes me very excited bout it . Just give me some great cinematic dance scenes/parties/hangout scenes with some good Tarantino-esque music and I am happy lol.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 20, 2019, 09:29:32 PM
There was an on-set pic recently leaked that showed a scene being filmed depicting a very pregnant Sharon with Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, and Voytek
Frykowski in tow, all dressed in what an aficionado like me recognizes as the clothes they died in (the men anyhow), presumably on their way to El Coyote for that famous last meal roughly 3 hours before the carnage.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: WorldForgot on March 21, 2019, 01:32:55 AM
I dont think the murders have to be prevented for the summer of 69 to be revised into pulp revenge.
Also, it's so far from a "thin line!" This is the kinda cult culture dissection that gelz with Tarantino's 3-dimensional carnage. Instead of pigz or nazi's, it's something insidiously built into our own fav medium.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on March 21, 2019, 02:56:33 AM
All these glamorous shots of Tate are worrying, though. Will she have a storyline? I know that the world of cinema is intertwined with the murders, so I can imagine the characters being in a party with Tate, etc. But from the little we've seen it seems like she will be a character with her own separated storyline? That's complicated. Especially if she's isolated from the rest of the cast, being the woman that will be killed. If I had to write that story, I would not have cast an actress as known as Margo Robbie, and she would have been kind of there since it's Hollywood—but also she would have been kind of not there.

I'm very curious to see how he'll deal with it.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Sleepless on March 21, 2019, 11:55:41 AM
I think these theories are way off base. This is Tarantino's Inherent Vice-cum-Boogie Nights, I think it'll be more about celebrating a specific era and then wallowing in its demise. I really don't see this being a revenge movie. Maybe it's actually about his dealing with the collapse of the house of Weinstein and his own complicity in everything that went on there, with the Leo-Pitt relationship serving as some sort of substitute as we track them from their glory days to irrelevance as the movie business shifts. It was aways said that the Manson murders were just a part of the backdrop, so it makes sense that that's the painful event which triggers/culminates the massive shift in their lives as we hurtle into the third act. If this speculation is true, maybe (hopefully?) we don't even see the violence this time around, just it's aftermath.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: WorldForgot on March 21, 2019, 01:38:41 PM
I think these theories are way off base. This is Tarantino's Inherent Vice-cum-Boogie Nights, I think it'll be more about celebrating a specific era and then wallowing in its demise. [...] It was aways said that the Manson murders were just a part of the backdrop, so it makes sense that that's the painful event which triggers/culminates the massive shift in their lives as we hurtle into the third act. If this speculation is true, maybe (hopefully?) we don't even see the violence this time around, just it's aftermath.

Hmm, it's just that even as a backdrop in IV the cult plays a major role in its themes.  Here we have the family in play and Spahn ranch cast with notable names. The OUATIH you describe is closest to the movie I'd want to see QT illustrate, where Charlie doesn't seem too dissimilar from our co-stars, their narcissism and pretender crowns exposed. It's just a teaser, obvi, but Sharon Tate would, in this sort of dichotomy, represent the innocent idyll (veneer?) of Hollywood.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 21, 2019, 03:44:48 PM
I think these theories are way off base.

Very likely yes lol. But until we get something firmer it's all I can do is theorize.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Something Spanish on March 21, 2019, 05:11:51 PM
can't believe it's a mere 4 months from arriving in theatres
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on March 23, 2019, 06:23:15 PM
New fan-made poster.


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Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on March 23, 2019, 08:57:30 PM
Now THAT is a poster. Why don't the studios hire these people????
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on March 24, 2019, 10:10:14 AM
Yeah, that's awesome.

I still can't get over how uninspired and bland the real posters are, but at least there's talented fans out there who makes stuff like this.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on March 24, 2019, 08:15:14 PM
Hope this isn't too Reddit-y (or self-serving.  Wilder will let me know  :wink: ), but here's some extensive video from the Hollywood Blvd set from last July.  (Interested observers can spot me standing at the entrance of Larry Edmund's a couple of times: White T, cargo shorts, cap.)  (Quentin even ducked inside the store on a couple of occasions to get a closer look at some of the books the art dept had set up.)  We had a lot of fun for those 3 days.  I even learned (from overhearing a conversation between Tarantino and Richardson) what a "Dutch Angle" was.


Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on March 25, 2019, 09:18:16 PM
You get to hang out around movie sets and overhear talks between Tarantino and Robert Richardson, wilberfan? Now that's cool. I'm going to have to do a "Where's Waldo?" search for you in that video. Wait ... I just saw you. Nice.  :yabbse-grin:

Damn, seeing all the set dressing has got me ultra giddy. I'm just a sucker for that period, the art, the culture, the cars, etc. "Perfectly browned low tar cigarettes" on that bus .... Damn. I like how the cameraman just casually says, "There's Tarantino," and points him out.

I don't want to get my hopes up for this one too much and be let down, but I really doubt that'll happen. Tarantino hasn't made a movie I've disliked.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on March 25, 2019, 10:26:18 PM
It was really interesting.  Anyone think I should volunteer to do an AMA?   :wink:
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on March 27, 2019, 02:14:43 AM
Maybe I will at some point ask you some general questions about your experience of history and film in LA. You'd be a cool person to sit and have a beer with.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: ©brad on March 28, 2019, 04:30:43 PM
Nice vid man, thanks for sharing. I'm really excited about this movie.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on May 02, 2019, 10:12:33 PM
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Joins Cannes’ Competition Roster

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The suspense is over: Quentin Tarantino’s “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” will indeed have its world premiere and compete at the Cannes Film Festival, the fest announced Thursday.

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The star-studded movie has been widely anticipated as a festival highlight but wasn’t included in Cannes’ official selection announcement on April 18. Artistic director Thierry Fremaux told journalists several times that day that he hoped for post-production on Tarantino’s film to be completed in time for the film to be shown at the festival. Fremaux said Tarantino was eager to be back at Cannes and was working hard to finish the film by May, which was a challenge because it was shot in 35mm, which takes longer to edit than digital film, and is slated for a July release.

“We were afraid the film would not be ready, as it wouldn’t be released until late July, but Quentin Tarantino, who has not left the editing room in four months, is a real, loyal and punctual child of Cannes!” Fremaux said Thursday. “Like for ‘Inglourious Basterds,’ he’ll definitely be there – 25 years after the Palme d’Or for ‘Pulp Fiction’ – with a finished film screened in 35mm and his cast in tow.” Fremaux described the film as a “love letter to the Hollywood of his childhood, a rock music tour of 1969, and an ode to cinema as a whole.”

Source (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-cannes-competition-quentin-tarantino-1203201142/)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 21, 2019, 10:16:27 AM
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on May 21, 2019, 10:21:30 AM
Good timing. It's screening right now at Cannes.

Nice trailer. But I still have a hard time imagining how Tate fits in that movie?

(Is he worried that he's has been because The Hateful Eight made less money than Django?)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 21, 2019, 10:26:21 AM
I find the apparent liberties being taken with the Charlie/Sharon Tate part of it a bit concerning

SPOILER (the Manson girls skipping down Cielo at night with knives brandished etc)...

Honestly don't know how to feel about any of this based on the trailer. I'm excited, but it also looks like it could just be Tarantino's greatest hits.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on May 21, 2019, 10:34:32 AM
Sharon Tate is not gonna die in this movie, right? That's the silliest thing with Basterds and Django: the revenge fantasy. Cinema saves history? Cinema saves people? It is joyful in a way, yes; I like watching these scenes a lot...But I also find them insulting. No. You didn't kill Hitler. You didn't save anyone. And the pulp of Django shies away from the reality of racism—or the harshness just seems to be there in order for us to be happy when the bad guys are violently destroyed which, yes, works on my nervous system. But then...

The violence of society in the Hateful Eight is a part of the world. I'd be disappointed if he's "saving history from itself" again.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 21, 2019, 01:14:52 PM
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-first-reactions-praise-tarantino-cannes-1202143548/
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 21, 2019, 01:16:57 PM
A few small spoilers in there. No big ones, but it reveals what direction he's going with it.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 21, 2019, 01:42:25 PM
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From an early review:
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The film takes its time, to the point where at times it starts to feel sluggish – but even the slower moments have delicious touches or wonderful cameos (ladies and gentlemen, Bruce Freakin’ Dern!) And slowly but surely, this bravura homage builds up to … something.

And that’s where the film becomes difficult to write about. Tarantino doesn’t want reviewers revealing “anything that would prevent later audiences from experiencing this film in the same way” that we did, and it’s probably inevitable that I’ve already done that. But I’m not going to say anymore, because he’s right that the film needs to be experienced with fresh eyes, and its spectacular conclusion shouldn’t be foreshadowed.

https://www.thewrap.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-film-review-a-contemplative-quentin-tarantino-still-blows-the-roof-off-cannes/

Yeah, I won't be reading more than this. Let's keep this thread spoiler-free in the future.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 21, 2019, 01:45:17 PM
Oh God, this all has me worried. I feel like my worst fears are going to be realized...
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Something Spanish on May 21, 2019, 07:28:25 PM
Love the new trailer, much more than the teaser. Looks like a masterpiece. Haven’t been this excited for one of his since Vol. 1
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 22, 2019, 12:11:50 PM
Oh God, this all has me worried. I feel like my worst fears are going to be realized...

People aren't too upset about it though, so maybe he's doing it with good taste? Not sure how that would work, but let's see.

I've seen a few tweets that has compared the film to Jackie Brown and called it more mature and lowkey than Tarantino's latest efforts. That makes me very excited about it.

Super small spoiler:
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Apparently there's a 5 minute scene where Tate walks down a street to buy a book in a bookstore. Why does that sound so good? I can't wait to spend time with this film, lol
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on May 22, 2019, 01:02:22 PM
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Yeah, apparently Tate in this movie is like Tate in these trailers: just there, sometimes, randomly.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: jenkins on May 22, 2019, 02:48:51 PM
it’s already bothering everyone to not be able to talk about the ending, which how annoying. it comes out soon enough but the odds seem low that I’ll make it in without knowing what happens from bumping into the information somehow

it’s being celebrated on par with the almodóvar, in that the criticisms against it are lame and the praises are lit
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on May 22, 2019, 10:29:13 PM
Reviews are starting to come online.  Esquire.com has one and an interview.  (I'm still trying to decide if I should read them.  I ended up reading everything about Phantom Thread before it came out and the movie was very non-spoiled for me.)

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a27557233/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-review-quentin-tarantino-movie/ (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a27557233/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-review-quentin-tarantino-movie/)

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a27458589/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-leonardo-dicaprio-brad-pitt-quentin-tarantino-interview/ (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a27458589/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-leonardo-dicaprio-brad-pitt-quentin-tarantino-interview/)

Nothing spoilery here:
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From the time I first spoke with Quentin Tarantino last month for Esquire’s Summer cover story, all the way until just before the house lights were dimmed last night at Cannes, the director has asked that those writing about his new film not reveal the ending. For a film set over three days in 1969, it's as though Tarantino wants the press — that now, thanks to Twitter and Facebook includes basically anyone who can send their thoughts out into the world — to act a bit more like this is, indeed, 1969: a wonderful fairy-tale land where a director can open a film and its power can be spread through the land, slowly, gently, through buzzy word of mouth, rather than have its soul reduced to a tweet, chewed up and spit out into the twittterverse within minutes of its opening.

All of which is to say, I'm with him.

[edit]  Quickly scanned the review.  It's very positive.  Very.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on May 22, 2019, 11:44:45 PM
Burt Reynolds had an heart attack on his toilet. That's what I learned from this interview. (And that I'll probably love the movie.)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 23, 2019, 11:06:13 AM
Ah the inanity! The media trying to make something out of nothing, once again.

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/tarantino-hollywood-treatment-of-women-debate-1202144173/ (https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/tarantino-hollywood-treatment-of-women-debate-1202144173/)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 23, 2019, 11:19:05 AM
Please, Tarantino has written amazing female characters throughout the years. Everyone forgot that?

On another note, I was wondering where that Cannes Press Conference where. It's online somewhere yet?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 23, 2019, 11:21:15 AM
Twitter makes me want to fucking vomit. Yet I can't tear myself away. HELP.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 23, 2019, 12:22:06 PM
Here's the full press conference.

Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 23, 2019, 01:07:02 PM
Is it spoilery?
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 23, 2019, 01:31:55 PM
There's no big plot spoilers, but again, they talk about the direction of the film
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 23, 2019, 01:51:55 PM
If you're okay with it then I'm okay with it.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on May 23, 2019, 07:26:57 PM
I've actually been thinking about this recently.  Wondering if the rush to have a version ready for Cannes would be one he was happy with...

Quentin Tarantino Says He May Recut ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ to Make it Longer

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Quentin Tarantino is not wedded to the Cannes cut of “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.” He and editor Fred Raskin worked hard to finish it in time to world premiere at his favorite festival on May 21, and Tarantino told me he wouldn’t have shown it if he wasn’t ready. As soon as he was sure he could deliver, festival director Thierry Fremaux alerted the news. But even if Sony struck three wet 35mm prints of the two-hour, 39-minute Cannes version, Tarantino can still go back into the editing room, Sony chairman Tom Rothman confirmed at the premiere. A decade back, Tarantino re-edited “Inglourious Basterds” after Cannes, as well.

“I may make it longer,” said Tarantino at the Hotel Carlton, the day after audiences first saw the movie that proved to be the hottest ticket of this year’s festival by far. Raskin’s first assembly was four hours, 20 minutes. “His job is to put in every single thing I shot, give me everything,” he said. “That’s not unusual, for an epic-y kind of movie.” He and Raskin initially thought it might come in around the two-hour 45-minute mark. “Let’s see if we can get it tighter than that,” he told Raskin. “2:45 seems like an old Quentin movie. Let’s see if we can get past the Quentin cut to a really friendly cut any audience can appreciate.”

Now that he’s seen the $90-million movie play with an audience (aside from some research previews), Tarantino is going to look at it again. “I wouldn’t take anything else out,” he said. “I’m going to explore possibly putting something back in. If anything, I wanted to go to Cannes too short. if I’m going to err, I’m going to err on too tight.”

As far as Rothman is concerned, Tarantino can do whatever he wants. “It’s his movie. We’re privileged to be along for the ride,” he said. “It’s a Quentin Tarantino film. It’s entirely in his very capable hands.”

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Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 23, 2019, 08:02:13 PM
Do it, Quentin!

I think it was the Bear Jew background chapter or the Shosanna background one that got cut from IB? Not sure if both of them were in the Cannes cut. I was rewatching it the other day actually, and in a weird way it almost feels like a movie-version of a television show. That film could've been 3 hours longer and it would've been even better, probably. But yeah, he'll probably make one after his 10 movies..the Netflix cut of Hateful Eight doesn't really count.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on May 23, 2019, 08:08:48 PM
Inglourious Basterds should have been a miniseries; it's just weaker when you watch the whole thing at once, and at least I could say that most of the episodes are good and some are great. I don't know what to do with this movie.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 23, 2019, 08:15:05 PM
Yeah I always thought IB felt truncated too. Lots in the script I was sad to see excised.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 23, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
Almost every single part of that film should have been more fleshed out. The pacing is so weird, although it creates an excitement because you are never sure where the film will take you (and that's the best thing with a Tarantino film). Still, the script works better. The final cut feels like a highlight reel. 

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^this, I guess. I've learned a new word!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on May 24, 2019, 08:41:18 PM
Well, it's about time for me to start getting hyped for this one. Admittedly, I'm not to keen on the trailer that was released a few days ago, but thinking about Tarantino films, I've never paid too much attention to his trailers (I don't really know why). That said, after seeing that the film is getting tons of praise after the Cannes screening, I'm starting to get overwhelmed with excitement. I've never disliked a Quentin movie, and I completely trust him to make something that I'll, at the very least, like. It's just that the trailer doesn't give too much of the story away (ultimately a good thing), but his stories are always so magnificent.

I would be all for Tarantino going back and re-cutting the film .... For me, the more, the better when it comes to his stuff. And, again, I'd trust him to do an extraordinary job. I mean, Kill Bill is probably my favourite of his. His films could use a lot of time, with all their references, recreations of scenes/bits from past movies, and overflow of character exploration and interesting scenarios. The thing is that it never gets boring because it's all interesting.

Am I worried about the Sharon Tate/Manson background? Not too much. The way that Pynchon handled it was somewhat indirect, to show that the hippy era ended with paranoia and the negative side of things coming to the forefront. I do hope that Once Upon A Time doesn't end with ... you know ... given Tarantino's penchant for violence. But even if it did, I'd again probably trust him with it. What other filmmaker could handle that sort of thing?

Anyway, to sum up my thoughts, I'll say that I've been starved since around the release of Phantom Thread for something that comes from a person who has cinema history in their DNA. Something with the sensibilities of The Old Man and the Gun but with greater scope and a bigger budget, with more cinematic history woven into it. Something that doesn't just give in to the style of modern movies and combines great actors with an amazing story and a deeply informed sense of direction. The subject matter of this film, the rave reviews, the descriptions of it being more of a "mature" style like Jackie Brown, and Tarantino himself .... I can't wait to see this.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on May 24, 2019, 08:57:39 PM
Actually ... I watched the trailer a few more times and it looks so good. Oboy oboy oboy oboy oboy ....
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 24, 2019, 09:03:11 PM
Dude, your post alone has seriously amped my hype. Almost as good as PTA season!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on May 24, 2019, 10:50:10 PM
Dude, your post alone has seriously amped my hype. Almost as good as PTA season!

Haha, most of my posts here are long-ish and I tend to really air all of my thoughts out, so I'm glad you've found it valuable rather than it just being all drivel. But yeah ... I remember PTA responding to a question about The Revenent and how it was having production issues, the rumour being, if I recall correctly, that it might not work out. You've probably heard the interview, but in case you haven't, PTA's response was to say that of course he was rooting for it to be successful, and he always wants projects to succeed so that these movies are able to be made. That's how I feel about a film like Once Upon a Time, that it's a bit of a minor miracle in today's movie climate for a director with Tarantino's deep enthusiasm and integrity to put out something like this. I mean, not that Tarantino's movies don't make money and that he hasn't had past success ... but the fact that the infrastructure is there for someone of his ilk to continue to do what he does with quite large budgets makes me happy.

So yeah, that's also a part of what makes me so excited about this new film. I went back and watched the trailer a bunch of times as mentioned, and I started noticing the small details too: The labels on boxes or cans of beer that the actors are surrounded by, the cigarettes, the outfits .... All of it looks so incredibly well done. I mean, the Tarantino stylings of Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction, or even the conversational elements in Reservoir Dogs, in painstakingly well crafted late-60s setting!? Sign me up!
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: wilberfan on May 25, 2019, 01:43:09 AM
Maybe this goes without saying, but the word is out to avoid the Wikipedia page for this film.  Full plot and ending is allegedly been posted.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Something Spanish on May 25, 2019, 06:51:19 AM
if you've read the reviews, they don't spoil the ending but have no qualms revealing an abrupt spat of violence enters the equation, so you can imagine. the majority is supposedly a hangout movie that doesn't really go anywhere, long stretches where nothing happens, and to me, that sounds very exciting, considering the crowd you're hanging with. it's dialogue heavy, like all tarantino movies, that is one of the main draws when watching a tarantino movie. i'm going to do my best to avoid reading anything further than what was written in cannes until watching it for myself, but i have a feeling this may be one of his best.

trailer is one of his best. second to this one, which was included on the Vol.1 soundtrack :
(even has the crazy 88 fight in color, as in the Asian release, which is hands down my favorite sequence he's ever directed. shelled $50 bucks at Kim's for a Region 3 dvd around 2004. not only is it in color, but it's more violent than the us release)

when pitt is on the roof and manson throws him the creepy wave as the chorus smacks in, i get chills every time.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 25, 2019, 09:54:39 AM
I had forgotten all about that trailer and it just sucked me right back to 2003. Chills, etc.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Lottery on May 25, 2019, 10:28:48 AM
the majority is supposedly a hangout movie that doesn't really go anywhere, long stretches where nothing happens,

I've seen a few tweets that has compared the film to Jackie Brown and called it more mature and lowkey than Tarantino's latest efforts.

Oooh, that's the good stuff right there.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 25, 2019, 10:43:43 AM
I had forgotten all about that trailer and it just sucked me right back to 2003. Chills, etc.

Was that the first trailer for Kill Bill? Must've been pretty cool to watch that trailer in 03, after waiting 5 years since Jackie Brown.

I think Kill Bill has aged very well. This are his best ones imo, his "masterpieces" if you like;
Jackie Brown
Kill Bill
Pulp Fiction
inglourious Basterds

Death Proof is a personal favorite of mine, but only because it was the first movie I obsessed over before it came out. I wasn't aware of directors before that one, so it has a special place in my heart.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on May 25, 2019, 11:45:50 AM
trailer is one of his best ... when pitt is on the roof and manson throws him the creepy wave as the chorus smacks in, i get chills every time.

I don't know what I was thinking when I first said I wasn't keen on the trailer. It's actually amazing .... I've watched it maybe ten times now and can't get enough of it.

I think I just needed to view it two or three times and notice what was going on. For example, when I first watched it, I didn't:
-catch that Al Pacino was Al Pacino right away
-notice the Spahn Ranch sign at first
-hear Margaret Qualley say, "Charlie's gonna dig you"
-see Margaret Qualley sitting with her feet up, right in the camera, in Brad Pitt's car
-see all the small period details, like when Leo DiCaprio is sitting at a dressing mirror and there's an old 60s-style hair dryer there, old 60s chairs, a vintage box of band-aids, old "Vam" and "Vitalis" bottles

The cinematography looks great too .... Robert Richardson, celluloid, wide angles .... I can't get enough.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on May 25, 2019, 01:11:56 PM
I had forgotten all about that trailer and it just sucked me right back to 2003. Chills, etc.

Was that the first trailer for Kill Bill? Must've been pretty cool to watch that trailer in 03, after waiting 5 years since Jackie Brown.

I don't believe it was the first (I think there was a teaser with Battle Without Honor or Humanity playing, and it featured footage from a cut sequence where Bill kicks ass in B&W) but once discovered it was my favorite.

Seeing this again honestly made me well up a bit, as it brought me back to a very nice time in my life. I was but a lad of 16, had my first girlfriend, I'd lost like 150 lbs the year before so I was lookin prettay prettay prettay good, and I was full of energy and enthusiasm and was madly in love with cinema. Not much has changed, it's just...harder now, I suppose. Though I have relatively few complaints, all things considered...

Also I worked at a movie theater, and this was back when 35 projection was the norm, so I used to take home all the trailers on celluloid, several Kill Bills among them. I still have them somewhere.

Okay, nostalgia trip done.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on May 25, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
I had forgotten all about that trailer and it just sucked me right back to 2003. Chills, etc.

Was that the first trailer for Kill Bill? Must've been pretty cool to watch that trailer in 03, after waiting 5 years since Jackie Brown.

I don't believe it was the first (I think there was a teaser with Battle Without Honor or Humanity playing, and it featured footage from a cut sequence where Bill kicks ass in B&W) but once discovered it was my favorite.

Seeing this again honestly made me well up a bit, as it brought me back to a very nice time in my life. I was but a lad of 16, had my first girlfriend, I'd lost like 150 lbs the year before so I was lookin prettay prettay prettay good, and I was full of energy and enthusiasm and was madly in love with cinema. Not much has changed, it's just...harder now, I suppose. Though I have relatively few complaints, all things considered...

Also I worked at a movie theater, and this was back when 35 projection was the norm, so I used to take home all the trailers on celluloid, several Kill Bills among them. I still have them somewhere.

Okay, nostalgia trip done.

150 lbs .... That's insane! Wow. A late congratulations to you. It sounds like it vastly improved your quality of life. I know what it's like to be at that age and just be full of energy, but I've never accomplished anything physical on that level. That's seriously a huge thing to do.

I was born in the early 90s, so hearing about 35 mm artifacts like that is very interesting to me. Were there extra copies for you to take home? I'd imagine that the production companies would send your theatre a surplus and you'd yoink the extras. Very cool.

I'll add that I came of age during the cusp of Napster and that era, and music was and has been my first point of artistic pull. I think that music has borne a massive portion of that change. It's a big part of why I'm so interested in that era (the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s), when things were recorded to 4- and 8- and 16- track tape. There was a transition in those days from trying to capture live recordings to experimenting with mixing things in the studio. But still, the emphasis was on capturing live sounds first.

These days, recording is so expedient and young people tend to not care about the source (where the sounds originate from). It's so easy to program a digital beat and then put vocals over it. On the one hand, it empowers people to create, but on the other, it embodies what Pynchon (my favourite author and of course initial author of PTA's IV) was getting at when he explored information entropy. Media and art start to becomes noise as it's so much easier to create, record, and distribute. At the risk of getting very, very personal and too heavy here ... these are the things that keep me up at night. On the one hand, it's good that people are empowered, but on the other, I wish the process were more stringent, demanding, and for those who are into the craft enough to see out a process that presents challenges to the intellect and problem-solving capabilities. And unfortunately, there are the un-discerning masses who will gulp up the lowest common denominator without concerning themselves with things that are produced with thought and utmost craft.

This is all why I'm so obsessed with Kubrick's productions. I'm currently reading Michael Benson's Space Odyssey, which goes in depth about the production of 2001. If I could distill the importance of the production of that movie from what I'm reading, it's that Kubrick and co. leaned against the boundaries of film infrastructure of that time, and challenged the technological and philosophical limits of the medium. I mean, the production went on for about three years, overtook nine stages of MGM's London studio, and Kubrick pushed his producers and his team to do things that hadn't been done to produce something that dared to transcend the artistic medium. The point there is that they had to face limits which demanded a serious and skilled creative process, one which rewarded reflection and sustained effort.

The greater point is that I fear production has maybe become too easy. It's empowering, yes, but it increases the noise of things out there. But to get back on topic, this is all why I'm so fascinated with what you said about that era of cinema and being able to snag physical prints of trailers ... and a director of the old guard who is making a movie in this era that's set during the turn of the old Hollywood to the new, using some old film techniques at the highest level of artistic application, with his knowledge and experience of film background.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on May 30, 2019, 10:39:18 PM
This was a nice one:
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: csage97 on June 10, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
https://www.scmp.com/sport/mixed-martial-arts/article/3013667/bruce-lees-daughter-upset-quentin-tarantino-didnt-consult

What's with the "need to be consulted" that keeps popping up in the news? First Roman Polanski's wife's tweet -- which was ludicrous and probably got too much media attention for the clicks -- and now Bruce Lee's daughter. If you were a famous person who was part of the history of Hollywood (the key being a part of history), you or your relatives shouldn't really need to be consulted about being fictionalized or represented in a work of art.

Tarantino DID consult Sharon Tate's sister and got her blessing, but that makes sense because of the sensitivity surrounding Tate's story. And anyway, I've heard Sharon Tate is represented in a positive light here, and Margot Robbie said recently that her role is a celebration of Tate's life. So what's with controversy arising over representing or exploring such a story? It's a part of culture and it shaped the American past. I also don't buy the whole assumption of "sensationalizing/using a touchy subject for monetary or story profit." Tarantino could make a completely different film with Pitt, DeCaprio, Robbie, Pacino, Perry, etc., and it would likely do well in the box office.

I guess I'll see how Tarantino handles the material when the film comes out.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on June 10, 2019, 11:45:16 AM
Tolstoy faced the same issues with Napoleon's family.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Something Spanish on June 10, 2019, 05:47:21 PM
Just noticed on IMDB The Love Witch plays Abigail Folger
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on June 13, 2019, 07:44:15 AM
That's more like it! (not sure if this has been posted here, found it on IMDB)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOTg4ZTNkZmUtMzNlZi00YmFjLTk1MmUtNWQwNTM0YjcyNTNkXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjg2NjQwMDQ@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,674,1000_AL_.jpg)
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on June 13, 2019, 08:03:49 AM
Now that's a poster.

Though there's a bit of inconsistency in the text:                Once Upon a Time In... Hollywood

                                                                                                       Once Upon a Time...In Hollywood

Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Drenk on June 13, 2019, 08:15:11 AM
Before: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood...
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: Robyn on June 13, 2019, 09:03:02 AM
Is that a another Bande à part homage underneath the title? Looks kinda like it.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: WorldForgot on June 13, 2019, 12:48:11 PM
Oh God, this all has me worried. I feel like my worst fears are going to be realized...

Fiction can be more truthful than fact.

Here'z hoping the third act doesn't shatter your brain, eward ~  :idea:
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on June 13, 2019, 01:06:16 PM
Haha I’m sure it will, and I’ll gratefully pick up the pieces and put it all back together again.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: WorldForgot on June 14, 2019, 02:29:37 PM


El Coyote, mentioned as the spot for TLB victims "Last Supper," iz quite close to QTs theater.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: eward on June 14, 2019, 03:07:05 PM
Polite correction: it’s where Sharon, Jay, Abigail, and Voytek dined about 4 hours before the murders.
Title: Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Post by: WorldForgot on June 14, 2019, 03:11:50 PM
Polite correction: it’s where Sharon, Jay, Abigail, and Voytek dined about 4 hours before the murders.

Gah, thanks! I figured you'd be one of the few to have known the details. Noticed once the interview went on but forgot to edit. Fix'd and, also, fuck the Helter Skelter propagation.

You should post media of note that'll complement the next month of anticipation with facts or theory ~