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Title: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:22:10 PM
i did a search on worst on these forums and didn't see anything.

there's a lot of talk of the best movie, best shots, best scenes, best actors, best scores, best drug scene, best sex scene, et cetera.

there's not a lot of talk about the worst, unless someone can prove me wrong. lock this if you can find something that's about the worst movie ever (to avoid further embarassment on my part). my idea is to understand the best, you need to see both sides, the good and the bad.

what's the worst movie you've ever seen? i mean actually seen, not like gigli, we know it's bad, but no one has seen it. no one

i'll start it off...

Plan 9 From Outer Space
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Ghostboy on August 22, 2003, 01:26:01 PM
I love Plan 9 From Outer Space! It only suffered from incompetence on the part of most of the people involved.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:28:07 PM
how could one LOVE that movie? it was amusing, like all the problems with it, but watching it, i was crying because i just wanted it to end.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pubrick on August 22, 2003, 01:30:07 PM
haha doing a search on "worst film ever" reminds me of:

episode Homer the Smithers (s.7)

Smithers: I've got to find a replacement that won't outshine me.
         Perhaps if I searched the employee evaluations for the word "Incompetent"...
          [computer reports: 714 matches found]
Smithers: 714 names? Better be more specific. [keeps typing]
"lazy", "clumsy", "dim-witted", "monstrously ugly"
[computer searches, then reports: 714 matches found]
Smithers: Oh nuts to this! I'll just go get Homer Simpson.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:31:58 PM
exactly, there's no point because everyone already knows its plan 9
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on August 22, 2003, 01:41:42 PM
Quote from: magnoliacexactly, there's no point because everyone already knows its plan 9

If you believe that, you have not seen Blair Witch 2, Body Of Evidence or Jeepers Creepers.

More opinions:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=237
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:42:51 PM
or jeepers creeper 2!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on August 22, 2003, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: magnoliacor jeepers creeper 2!

It's not out yet. Have you seen it?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:45:23 PM
right, well just read this comic

http://www.movie-comics.com/comic.php?strip_id=53
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Ghostboy on August 22, 2003, 01:47:09 PM
Plan 9 has nothing but love to offer -- misguided love, sure, but Ed Wood really put his heart into that movie and took it seriously, and it sort of shows, even though the end results were pretty bad. I'd much rather pick on something that has contempt for its audience.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on August 22, 2003, 01:48:20 PM
Quote from: magnoliacright, well just read this comic

http://www.movie-comics.com/comic.php?strip_id=53

Wow, you have a comic handy to back up your closed-mindedness.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on August 22, 2003, 01:50:03 PM
Well, there's "Manos, the Hands of Fate"

I'm tempted to check out the Kirk Cameron "Left Behind" movie sometime, to see what its camp value is. Of course, I'll likely need alcoholic beverages to make it through. ... (BTW, I can't believe Cameron was one of the finalists for Lloyd Dobler. How would movie history have changed if that had happened?)
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: GhostboyPlan 9 has nothing but love to offer -- misguided love, sure, but Ed Wood really put his heart into that movie and took it seriously, and it sort of shows, even though the end results were pretty bad. I'd much rather pick on something that has contempt for its audience.

well it's like what i read somewhere, and if you saw ed wood by tim burton, you'd understand. the person was saying while ed wood's movies were in fact terrible, that's not the point. he loved movies and had an undying passion for them, which is a problem with a lot of people in today's film industry. paul thomas anderson even said it himself, that the people at rysher didn't love movies like the main person at new line, they just did it for the money.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: SoNowThen on August 22, 2003, 01:51:38 PM
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World
(though I imagine 3 was even worse, I was too old to get suckered into paying to see it...)


Little Man Tate was pretty fucking horrible.
As was Deep Impact. That and Wonder Boys were the only movies where I have actually fallen asleep in the theatre because of boredom.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:52:34 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinWow, you have a comic handy to back up your closed-mindedness.

i have a comic for everything
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pubrick on August 22, 2003, 01:53:16 PM
just shut up. i don't want to hate u this early in ur board life.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pwaybloe on August 22, 2003, 01:54:31 PM
Quote from: magnoliacpaul thomas anderson even said it himself, that the people at rysher didn't love movies like the main person at new line, they just did it for the money.[/i]

Yes, yes.  I've heard of this "paul thomas anderson" fellow.  Didn't he do "Mortal Kombat?"  That movie rocks.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Pjust shut up. i don't want to hate u this early in ur board life.

aight

Quote from: PawbloeYes, yes.  I've heard of this "paul thomas anderson" fellow.  Didn't he do "Mortal Kombat?"  That movie rocks.

lol, i'm going to end my life
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pwaybloe on August 22, 2003, 02:03:22 PM
Hey, why can't we rename this thread to be, "Ask magnoliac stupid questions, and get stupid answers"
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 02:04:54 PM
heh, well do you expect to get an intelligent answer out of a stupid question?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Sleuth on August 22, 2003, 02:05:57 PM
Magnoliac!  How come that comic looks way too much like www.penny-arcade.com to be a coincidence?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 02:06:53 PM
i'm a huge fan of pa, so congrats

the reason why these people started the comic was because of penny-arcade, and that was their inspiration, instead of gaming they wanted to do movies.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on August 22, 2003, 02:14:50 PM
Does this mean we're not going to talk about the Kirk Cameron movie?  :?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pwaybloe on August 22, 2003, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: magnoliacheh, well do you expect to get an intelligent answer out of a stupid question?

Are you making fun of paul thomas anderson's "Mortal Kombat?"

You son of a bitch.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on August 22, 2003, 02:18:45 PM
I preferred Paul Thomas Anderson's "Resident Evil."

Best horror flick since "Critters 2."

The scene where Philip Baker Hall starts lecturing the zombies is classic.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 02:18:50 PM
Quote from: PawbloeAre you making fun of paul thomas anderson's "Mortal Kombat?"

You son of a bitch.

if that's what you believe i said, then yes.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 02:33:40 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI preferred Paul Thomas Anderson's "Resident Evil."

Best horror flick since "Critters 2."

The scene where Philip Baker Hall starts lecturing the zombies is classic.

i don't think so, Soldier was beautiful and the best, but Paul Thomas Anderson will hit big is with Alien vs. Predator.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Myxo on August 22, 2003, 03:00:13 PM
Quote from: magnoliaci did a search on worst on these forums and didn't see anything.

there's a lot of talk of the best movie, best shots, best scenes, best actors, best scores, best drug scene, best sex scene, et cetera.

there's not a lot of talk about the worst, unless someone can prove me wrong. lock this if you can find something that's about the worst movie ever (to avoid further embarassment on my part). my idea is to understand the best, you need to see both sides, the good and the bad.

what's the worst movie you've ever seen? i mean actually seen, not like gigli, we know it's bad, but no one has seen it. no one

i'll start it off...

Plan 9 From Outer Space

Seriously.

The Adventures of Pluto Nash.

Knowing what I know now, you couldn't pay me the ticket price to sit there and watch it again.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 03:11:03 PM
thirteen ghosts, ugh.

almost terrible but so hilarious is Mr. T's Be Somebody or Be Somebody's Fool. it's a hilarious movie, he gives such advice as

"If you don't walk around with any clothes, then you could get arrested"
"Use your anger, don't lose it."
"It's always good to daydream."
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: rustinglass on August 22, 2003, 03:34:51 PM
I didn't think jeepers creepers was that bad.

weekend at bernie's 2 was pretty bad, it wasn't even at bernie's
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Vile5 on August 22, 2003, 04:41:00 PM
Baño de Mujeres is the worst of the worst is a peruvian film (but i don't know if call it film) is a bad video made movie...

and there is other i really hate: TITANIC, this movie won the oscar and i never knew why, ok is a big and good production but is so ridiculous, the love story is boring well i never liked it...
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: jasper_window on August 22, 2003, 04:43:36 PM
How about redirecting this post, or renaming it worst movie (in your opinion) that most everyone else loved.  My nutty Aunt told me one time that she hates E.T.  Say wha?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 04:47:06 PM
i have a bone to pick with sequels

-return of the living dead 3
-friday the 13th part 4: the final chapter (only to be followed by 7 more movies)
-the two jakes (so unnecessary, for people who don't know, the sequel to chinatown)
police academy 7: mission to moscow

don't forget the exorcist iv coming this February 6th 2004
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 22, 2003, 05:00:15 PM
Dirty Dancing.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 22, 2003, 06:29:41 PM
dirty dancing havana nights

not out yet, but, you know, sequel
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: 1976 on August 22, 2003, 06:40:26 PM
The absolute worst movie ever is "Boricua's Bond." If you've never seen it or even heard of it, consider yourself blessed (although you can have a great time with your friends making fun of it.)

Honorable Mention:

Halloween 3 (where the hell is Michael Meyers in this?)
Village Of The Damned (only movie I've ever walked out on.)
Freddy Vs. Jason (This was just terrible on so many levels.)
Super Troopers (was this supposed to be funny?)
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on August 22, 2003, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: magnoliacdon't forget the exorcist iv coming this February 6th 2004

Quote from: magnoliacdirty dancing havana nights

not out yet, but, you know, sequel

Stop mentioning movies that are not out yet and you haven't seen!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Lucinda Bryte on August 22, 2003, 08:40:52 PM
Chasing Amy
Manos: The Hands of Fate
Kurt & Courtney
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on August 22, 2003, 08:51:43 PM
Reading some of these choices make me question some's sanity.

Super Troopers?
Chasing Amy?

What's wrong with you people?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Alethia on August 23, 2003, 01:49:51 AM
did anyone else here kinda like freddy vs jason besides me?  to like and admire are two very different  things, and while i dont think i'd ever wanna see it again, seeing it for the first time was a weirdly enjoyable experience.  dont know why.  anyone else feel this way?  not limited to that movie, mind you....


and dogma - chasing amy - titanic - lost world - little man tate - wonder boys - in a worst of all time thread?   makes me question how many films some of you have actually seen - 2 of those films were wonderful, 3 were good, and one was unnecessary but fun in some parts..........i actually dont like listing movies i dont like, but i fucking hated john q.  maybe my original dislike grew becuz everyone else i talked to said it was one of the greatest films theyd ever seen.  whew.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Cecil on August 23, 2003, 02:02:12 AM
i liked it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 23, 2003, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: mogwaimagnoliac. hated it.

yea terrible movie. acting, annoying. direction, less than impressive. the screenplay, pointless. i don't know what people were thinking and why they got attached to that project.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Anachronism on August 23, 2003, 06:25:33 PM
Half-Past Dead. DMX and Seagal in a prison flick.... need I say more.

P.S Super Troopers is independent comic genius at its best, whoever trashed it should be re-evaluating their commitment to entertainment and perhaps re-affirming their career plans as a septic engineer.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 23, 2003, 08:33:40 PM
yea the title, Half-Past Dead, dear lord, i love it.

and by love i mean hate. there is a movie inside of that title too, and that sucks as well.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: bonanzataz on August 24, 2003, 12:00:38 AM
i really love stupid comedies, but couldn't stand super troopers. the first 5 mins i thought were hilarious, then it descends into that whole drug thing, i think they call it an attempt at plot and character development. these are things stupid comedies pay way too much attention to. plot should be there to move the jokes along, we don't need a five minute scene telling us about what the drug ring does and why it's so important that the cops bring it down especially when there are no jokes involved. i don't know, i hated some of my favorite stupid comedies when i first saw them. maybe super troopers needs to be revisited. i do love the part with "liter-a cola."
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 24, 2003, 12:23:55 AM
empire..
van wilder..
.moulin rouge..(IMO)
kids
gummo..
uncle buck
ALOT.of horror sequels.
rocky2-..whenever it ends.
angus..
exit to eden..
i got the hookup!
ALOT ..of sequels made of cheesy 80's.. films.
.half baked..
mr.. deeds.
ALOT of..skinamax latenight films
ladybugs..

really ..to many to mention but still good to spill them out of you
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Anachronism on August 24, 2003, 02:30:13 AM
OMFG Exit to Eden is like primetime T&A. Who gives a shit about the plot, watching Dana Delaney getting butter and cocoa eaten off her naked body is a sinful pleasure that should not be denied to any penis carrying man.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: IHeartPTA on August 24, 2003, 09:54:12 AM
heh mr. deeds was filmed in the town right next to me which was pretty crazy, but the film being crap is a matter all in itself.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: phil marlowe on August 24, 2003, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY.half baked..
BLASFEMY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Alethia on August 24, 2003, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: phil marlowe
Quote from: NEON MERCURY.half baked..
BLASFEMY!!!!!!!!!

yeah i thought half baked was pretty fuckin funny
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 24, 2003, 10:17:41 PM
Quote from: eward
Quote from: phil marlowe
Quote from: NEON MERCURY.half baked..
BLASFEMY!!!!!!!!!

yeah i thought half baked was pretty fuckin funny


.I just thought it was a stupid stoner film..I think Dazed and Confused is the pinnacle of this genre of drug/stoner films..It was more realistic and ..(for lack of better analysis)..just a better film over all IMO..
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: pete on August 24, 2003, 10:23:16 PM
dazed and confused had a lot more going on in it than pot though, it's got stoners and it's got dazed in the title, but it's not a stoner film like half baked.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 24, 2003, 10:31:36 PM
Quote from: petedazed and confused had a lot more going on in it than pot though, it's got stoners and it's got dazed in the title, but it's not a stoner film like half baked.


..yeah i know..it's actually done right.. :wink:
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cowboykurtis on August 25, 2003, 09:03:25 AM
jeepers creepers -- only film i've ever walked out of the theater -- didn't make it past the first 1 hour.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: jokerspath on August 25, 2003, 09:15:32 AM
Quote from: AnachronismSuper Troopers is independent comic genius at its best.

This statement is quite crazy.

As for worst movies, I'd go with:
The Island Of Dr. Moreau
Spawn
Milk Money
Pay It Forward

They may not be the worst movies of all time (obviously) but they are the movies I've hated the most over the last 15 years or so.  There is bound to be more...

aw
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Lucinda Bryte on August 25, 2003, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: RaikusReading some of these choices make me question some's sanity.

Super Troopers?
Chasing Amy?

What's wrong with you people?

I've already stated I haven't seen many movies... Chasing Amy was one of the worst I've seen...
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: ***beady*** on August 25, 2003, 05:29:01 PM
I thought that the film with the big alligator in it was one of the crappest I've seen. I never actually bothered to even remember the name of it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: aclockworkjj on August 25, 2003, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: ***beady***I thought that the film with the big alligator in it was one of the crappest I've seen. I never actually bothered to even remember the name of it.
Lake Placid?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Alethia on August 25, 2003, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY
Quote from: eward
Quote from: phil marlowe
Quote from: NEON MERCURY.half baked..
BLASFEMY!!!!!!!!!

yeah i thought half baked was pretty fuckin funny


.I just thought it was a stupid stoner film..I think Dazed and Confused is the pinnacle of this genre of drug/stoner films..It was more realistic and ..(for lack of better analysis)..just a better film over all IMO..


half baked isnt in the same league as dazed and confused (a terrific film in my opinion), it was just a fun stupid silly comedy to enjoy after a long night of smoking.  by the way, the title comes from a song, i dont know if anyone knew that or not (dazed and confused, that is)
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: modage on August 25, 2003, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtisjeepers creepers -- only film i've ever walked out of the theater -- didn't make it past the first 1 hour.

i LOVED jeepers creepers.  that reminds me, i want to buy that dvd so i can re-watch it before the second one comes out.

Quote from: Lucinda BryteI've already stated I haven't seen many movies... Chasing Amy was one of the worst I've seen...

wait, sorry if this is a silly question, but how does somehow who hasnt seen many movies end up on a movie message board?  
apologies if i missed the bio elsewhere.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on August 25, 2003, 08:12:59 PM
i have not seen JC.  Should i check i out?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Cecil on August 25, 2003, 08:16:03 PM
i enjoyed it. dont know why people hate it so much
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on August 25, 2003, 08:36:09 PM
I'll give you my opinion. First off, the kids are so incredibly stupid that I wanted them to die and rid the world of their ignorance. The ideas are taken from a number of different horror movies done better. The character of the medium who "saves" them was so silly even I had to laugh at her theroies. It was not scary, suspenseful or even remotely creepy.

That being said, I will most likely see the sequel. I just hope there are smarter characters.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: RegularKarate on August 25, 2003, 09:31:20 PM
Yeah... I'm with Mac... JEEP CREEPS sucked... asside from being made by a child molestor, it was just boring...

Though I'll admit the first seven minutes were really well done.  I doubt I'll be watching part two... I'm surprised people liked the first one enough to warrant the sequel.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Alethia on August 25, 2003, 10:00:37 PM
well there was a problem child 2, dont think many people asked for that
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 25, 2003, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: jokerspath
Milk Money


..You know what this is a good call i forgot how horrible this was....its one of those films that after you watch it you immediately put it out of youir head..b/c its sucks so bad.Then when sopmeone brings it back up (as in this case..)..you quickly remeber the film and how crappy it was good choice. :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: modage on August 25, 2003, 10:49:14 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinThe ideas are taken from a number of different horror movies done better.

i agree with that, but i still liked it.  i had no interest in the movie from the trailers due to the sheer number of crappy horror movies to good ones.  but my dad rented it and told me to watch it, so i did. andi thought it was really good.  and one of my favorite horror flicks of the last few years for sure.  i dont remember the characters being that stupid.  and i thought it was creepy, the opening was great.  i thought the dialogue was good.  and the ending was also,  very cool.  great new monster too.  previews on tv for the new one look real good.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 25, 2003, 10:53:33 PM
::.jumps up and down screaming w/ excitement like a lil' kid::..i got ! i got!..the worst film has got to be ...............Keanu "whoa" Reeves devilish turn as a stalker in the sleeper hit ::cue scary music::...THE WATCHER...
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on August 25, 2003, 11:54:34 PM
Quote from: themodernage02i dont remember the characters being that stupid.

"Hey, we just saw a guy dump a body down a shaft. Instead of going for the police, let's investigate it ourselves and forget that the same psycho tried to run us off the road not two minutes ago. We're only two scrawny kids who have no weapons, after all."

"Oh shit, I just fell down the shaft. I'll look for a way out instead of using the rope the body is wrapped in for you to use to pull me out with."

I could go on.

Quotethe opening was great.

It was better in this film (http://imdb.com/Title?0067023). And all I could focus on was that the truck just rammed into their car, and in the next shot, there was no damage.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Lucinda Bryte on August 26, 2003, 05:22:16 AM
Quote from: Lucinda BryteI've already stated I haven't seen many movies... Chasing Amy was one of the worst I've seen...

wait, sorry if this is a silly question, but how does somehow who hasnt seen many movies end up on a movie message board?  
apologies if i missed the bio elsewhere.[/quote]

Because I like good movies. I think... Or so people tell me.

And see I don't really make it a commitment to see movies that I think look blatantly terrible.

That's why I don't watch lame teenage flicks or lame teenager-aimed horror movies.

:-D
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: bigperm on August 26, 2003, 09:09:12 AM
Myself and a few friends try to host a MECCA PIECE OF SHIT night when we can. We pass out cards with ten pieces of shit drawn on them, and people rate accordingly. The Definition of a MPOS, is a movie that takes itself way to seriously and is just bad...some of the heavyweights have included-  The Other Sister, Two days in the Valley, Weekend at Bernie's 1 & 2, Teen Wolf 2, Empire Records, Battlefield Earth, Freddy got Fingered, Look who's talking now, Gone Fishin', Multiple Batman films, Jurassic Park 3, and on and on and on...
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on August 26, 2003, 09:21:50 AM
Quote from: Lucinda BryteI've already stated I haven't seen many movies... Chasing Amy was one of the worst I've seen...
Nominated:
British Independent Film Award - Best Foreign Independent Film
Golden Globe - Best Performance by Actress in Motion Picture
Independent Spirit Award - Best Feature

Won:
CFCA Award
Independent Spirit Award
Sierra Award

And selected for a Criterion Edition DVD release.

These are a few of the reasons I'm shocked to see this movie in this thread.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on August 26, 2003, 09:33:33 AM
Quote from: Lucinda BryteAnd see I don't really make it a commitment to see movies that I think look blatantly terrible.

That's why I don't watch lame teenage flicks or lame teenager-aimed horror movies.

So you judge a book by it's cover? And how do you know they are lame if you haven't seen them?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 26, 2003, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: Raikus
Quote from: Lucinda BryteI've already stated I haven't seen many movies... Chasing Amy was one of the worst I've seen...
Nominated:
British Independent Film Award - Best Foreign Independent Film
Golden Globe - Best Performance by Actress in Motion Picture
Independent Spirit Award - Best Feature

Won:
CFCA Award
Independent Spirit Award
Sierra Award

And selected for a Criterion Edition DVD release.

These are a few of the reasons I'm shocked to see this movie in this thread.

Gladiator:

Nominated
Chicago Film Critics Association
Directors Guild
London Critics Circle
Online Film Critics Society
Screen Actors Guild

Won
Oscar
Golden Globe
Grammy
National Board of Review
BAFTA

I rest my case.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on August 26, 2003, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: bigpermMyself and a few friends try to host a MECCA PIECE OF SHIT night when we can. We pass out cards with ten pieces of shit drawn on them, and people rate accordingly. The Definition of a MPOS, is a movie that takes itself way to seriously and is just bad... Empire Records
Whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA! How does ER take itself seriously? It's like the ultimate goofy, feel-good movie. Where are all you people posting from? The Bridgeview Mental Health Facility?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pubrick on August 26, 2003, 09:44:20 AM
hahah

no, but chasing amy is ok, good even.  gladiator is a piece of crapola. critics choices notwithstanding, u can just tell these things.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on August 26, 2003, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Raikus
Quote from: Lucinda BryteI've already stated I haven't seen many movies... Chasing Amy was one of the worst I've seen...
Nominated:
British Independent Film Award - Best Foreign Independent Film
Golden Globe - Best Performance by Actress in Motion Picture
Independent Spirit Award - Best Feature

Won:
CFCA Award
Independent Spirit Award
Sierra Award

And selected for a Criterion Edition DVD release.

These are a few of the reasons I'm shocked to see this movie in this thread.

Gladiator:

Nominated
Chicago Film Critics Association
Directors Guild
London Critics Circle
Online Film Critics Society
Screen Actors Guild

Won
Oscar
Golden Globe
Grammy
National Board of Review
BAFTA

I rest my case.
So am I to take it you're saying Gladitor is "One of the Worst Movies Ever?"
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 26, 2003, 10:00:13 AM
Quote from: RaikusSo am I to take it you're saying Gladitor is "One of the Worst Movies Ever?"

Yeah.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on August 26, 2003, 10:04:32 AM
Although, as P said, it was crapola... you need to see more movies.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 26, 2003, 10:07:07 AM
Well, if not worst... most overrated.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on August 26, 2003, 10:10:43 AM
That's a statement I can absolutely agree with.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: modage on August 26, 2003, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: Lucinda BryteAnd see I don't really make it a commitment to see movies that I think look blatantly terrible.  That's why I don't watch lame teenage flicks or lame teenager-aimed horror movies.

well, nobody sees movies that look blatantly terrible, unless they're going to laugh at it.  and if a certain genre isnt your thing, than fine.  but by seeing only the "cool" movies, your limiting yourself to a lot of other stuff thats out there.  not all of which, by the way, is lame.  and by seeing some more stuff you'll realize that the spectrum goes a lot lower (and a little higher), than you've given credit for.   c'mon even Gold Trumpet likes American Pie!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: bonanzataz on August 26, 2003, 07:30:16 PM
i honestly don't see how freddy got fingered takes itself too seriously. the whole point of the movie is that it doesn't. it is the stupidest movie ever made on purpose and that is what is so great about it.

all the movies i see on here at least have some redeeming qualities. i liked gladiator, i liked chasing amy. gladiator is overrated, certainly not one of the worst movies ever made.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Sleuth on August 26, 2003, 07:36:53 PM
JUDGE DREDD
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pas on August 26, 2003, 07:37:05 PM
I tought My Big Fat Greek Wedding was pretty fucking bad for what it was considered to be. It might be the worst of the "not really made to be stupid" movies.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on August 27, 2003, 08:33:07 AM
you know i purchased Jaw Breaker for like 5 bucks at Walmart because the box looked pretty good.  That was quite possibly he worst movie ive ever seen.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: jasper_window on August 27, 2003, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: bonanzatazi honestly don't see how freddy got fingered takes itself too seriously. the whole point of the movie is that it doesn't. it is the stupidest movie ever made on purpose and that is what is so great about it.

And if you watch it with the commentary on, it's even more hilarious.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on August 27, 2003, 09:51:31 AM
The thing with Freddy Got Fingered is... is an awful movie. One of the worst. But people say its great because its meant to be stupid and therefore not awful. The way I always justify it is this: watching it as a Tom Green TV special, sure it can probably entertaining, BUT when criticizing it as a film, excluding what its "purpose" might have been and such.. it is incredibly low taste, which just makes for a bad, bad movie in this case because, unlike American Pie, there's really nothing to forgive about the characters. FGF presents a place and time where you're scratching your head wondering where the fuck thats happening (although you're presuming the southern states to yourself, or somewhere in Canada), but AP1,2, and AW, its something that we all understand.. we relate and thats movies like that with lower taste are accepted, understood, and forgiven.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on August 27, 2003, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: CinephileThe thing with Freddy Got Fingered is... is an awful movie. One of the worst. But people say its great because its meant to be stupid and therefore not awful. The way I always justify it is this: watching it as a Tom Green TV special, sure it can probably entertaining, BUT when criticizing it as a film, excluding what its "purpose" might have been and such.. it is incredibly low taste, which just makes for a bad, bad movie in this case because, unlike American Pie, there's really nothing to forgive about the characters. FGF presents a place and time where you're scratching your head wondering where the fuck thats happening (although you're presuming the southern states to yourself, or somewhere in Canada), but AP1,2, and AW, its something that we all understand.. we relate and thats movies like that with lower taste are accepted, understood, and forgiven.

boo this man
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Lucinda Bryte on August 27, 2003, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Lucinda BryteAnd see I don't really make it a commitment to see movies that I think look blatantly terrible.

That's why I don't watch lame teenage flicks or lame teenager-aimed horror movies.

So you judge a book by it's cover? And how do you know they are lame if you haven't seen them?

I guess I sort of do. I'm guilty of that a bit. I usually know if I'll like the movie or not. *shrug*

I sometimes decide to give movies a chance. Like American Pie. I didn't think I'd like it, and I didn't. I didn't laugh once.

I dunno. Usually if a movie looks bad to me, and I see it, my opinion doesn't change.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Lucinda Bryte on August 27, 2003, 02:39:52 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: Lucinda BryteAnd see I don't really make it a commitment to see movies that I think look blatantly terrible.  That's why I don't watch lame teenage flicks or lame teenager-aimed horror movies.

well, nobody sees movies that look blatantly terrible, unless they're going to laugh at it.  and if a certain genre isnt your thing, than fine.  but by seeing only the "cool" movies, your limiting yourself to a lot of other stuff thats out there.  not all of which, by the way, is lame.  and by seeing some more stuff you'll realize that the spectrum goes a lot lower (and a little higher), than you've given credit for.   c'mon even Gold Trumpet likes American Pie!

The thing is... I don't really get out much, so when I am watching TV and I see a movie that looks good to me, I will make an effort to see it. I usually only see one movie in the theater per year. The rest of the time I just wait until it comes out on video/DVD to watch it.

Or if I happen to be recommended to see a movie/read about it (like Whale Rider... that was never advertised here) I'll be interested too.

But I am not very good at seeing the more independent films but I think I should.

But if I don't like teeenage comedy flicks, I don't like teenage comedy flicks. It's like a guy saying "I don't like being fucked in the ass," and another guy saying, "Well you just have to get fucked in the ass by the right person," I just know what I do and don't like.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: RegularKarate on August 27, 2003, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: Lucinda Bryte
But if I don't like teeenage comedy flicks, I don't like teenage comedy flicks. It's like a guy saying "I don't like being fucked in the ass," and another guy saying, "Well you just have to get fucked in the ass by the right person," I just know what I do and don't like.

Not really... if you didn't like movies then you could use that comparison... maybe.

In this case it's like you LOVE to get fucked in the ass, but you prefer not to use lube.  Every once in a while though... a lube comes along that's so different than every other lube, you should really give it a shot.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Lucinda Bryte on August 27, 2003, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Quote from: Lucinda Bryte
But if I don't like teeenage comedy flicks, I don't like teenage comedy flicks. It's like a guy saying "I don't like being fucked in the ass," and another guy saying, "Well you just have to get fucked in the ass by the right person," I just know what I do and don't like.

Not really... if you didn't like movies then you could use that comparison... maybe.

In this case it's like you LOVE to get fucked in the ass, but you prefer not to use lube.  Every once in a while though... a lube comes along that's so different than every other lube, you should really give it a shot.

Haha I guess so... if you want to get technical about it.

Bring It On is a guilty pleasure of mine.  :wink:
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on August 27, 2003, 03:31:10 PM
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: CinephileThe thing with Freddy Got Fingered is... is an awful movie. One of the worst. But people say its great because its meant to be stupid and therefore not awful. The way I always justify it is this: watching it as a Tom Green TV special, sure it can probably entertaining, BUT when criticizing it as a film, excluding what its "purpose" might have been and such.. it is incredibly low taste, which just makes for a bad, bad movie in this case because, unlike American Pie, there's really nothing to forgive about the characters. FGF presents a place and time where you're scratching your head wondering where the fuck thats happening (although you're presuming the southern states to yourself, or somewhere in Canada), but AP1,2, and AW, its something that we all understand.. we relate and thats movies like that with lower taste are accepted, understood, and forgiven.

boo this man

What for?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: markums2k on August 27, 2003, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: CinephileThe thing with Freddy Got Fingered is... is an awful movie ...

boo this man

What for?

Freddy Got Fingered is an absolute mess.

Maybe Banky feels there's just not enough horse cock represented in modern cinema.  I'm just sayin 'maybe' is all...
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on August 27, 2003, 06:03:21 PM
thats the truth i love horse cock so much and im upset that you would put down the number one movie that represents the greatness that is horse cock.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on August 27, 2003, 08:08:37 PM
Well. There you have it. Straight from the horse's cock mouth.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: bonanzataz on August 28, 2003, 12:15:45 AM
Quote from: CinephileWell. There you have it. Straight from the horse's cock mouth.

that was almost funny.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on August 28, 2003, 12:32:28 AM
I'll take that as a compliment. Maybe some day though, I'll grab that brass ring and make a joke. Maybe.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: jokerspath on August 28, 2003, 09:16:06 AM
Quote from: Lucinda BryteI usually only see one movie in the theater per year.

Seeing one movie a year in the theatre sounds like my nightmare...

Quote from: Lucinda BryteIt's like a guy saying "I don't like being fucked in the ass," and another guy saying, "Well you just have to get fucked in the ass by the right person," I just know what I do and don't like.

I use this same argument for choosing a religion...

aw
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on August 31, 2003, 11:46:11 PM
somebody told me on this fucking website to check out Jeepers Creepers.  I wish i could remember who did.  This movie is the worst piece of shit i honestly think i have ever seen.  this fucking thing didnt even have an ending.  It just ended.  Man i wish i had the last hour and 25 minutes of my life back.  I dont know how this movie warranted a sequel.

anyone agree?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Cecil on September 01, 2003, 12:18:29 AM
Quote from: Bankysomebody told me on this fucking website to check out Jeepers Creepers.  I wish i could remember who did.

it was i
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on September 01, 2003, 01:20:24 AM
Quote from: Cecil B. Demented
Quote from: Bankysomebody told me on this fucking website to check out Jeepers Creepers.  I wish i could remember who did.

it was i

so you liked it?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Cecil on September 01, 2003, 01:21:26 AM
i thought it was allright
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: oakmanc234 on September 01, 2003, 07:42:34 AM
SPOILER********** I'm not too keen on 'Jeepers' but I admire its particularly nasty ending (it takes balls to end a popcorn flick with the main character gruesomly murdered). I think that's the only thing that made it different from the slew of other teen horror bullshit......
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on September 01, 2003, 10:38:37 AM
yeah but the movie had no ending.  They were in the police station and then it just ended.  No Climax, no resolution.  And the little Jurassic Park things that Came of Jeepers Creepers head when he screamed.  Come on
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: modage on September 01, 2003, 10:57:49 PM
i dont know what everybody is talking about, but i just re-watched this movie, and it was as good as i remembered it.  REALLY GOOD. and without a doubt, one of the best horror films i've seen in a long time.  

no climax, no resolution?!  thats what helps to make it amazing.  there is no "well, we need to figure out a way to kill it," type gathering strength scenes before a final showdown.  they dont ever try to kill it, they just want to get away and it fucking wins.  its really really good at breaking away from a lot of bad horror cliches.  for one, theres only 2 main characters.  no introducing 8 "character types" to be killed off without caring about any of them.  just two kids.  its written well.  it takes care of any of those lingering "why dont they do this?!" post-Scream smart audience questions.  like, why dont they use their cell phone? why dont they go to the policee? why dont they just wait there? why are they going back? its a smart film.  the acting is great, especially for a horror film.  and the Creeper is a really cool monster.   it keeps changing into a different film, from the opening to the ending, which bugs a lot of people.  but i thought kept it interesting.  unfortunately from what i've read about the sequel, it seems to fall into all the cliches.  but ill see it tomorrow to see what i think.

i want someone to name 5 better horror films of the past 5 years.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Ghostboy on September 01, 2003, 11:17:56 PM
The Ring
28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
The Blair Witch Project
May

Those are just off the top of my head, mostly because most of them are so recent. But still, I'm mostly with you on Jeeper Creepers. The only really illogical part was the fact that the kid went down into the hole in the first place -- beyond that, it was pretty smart. Like many people, I thought the movie went downhill once the Creeper showed its face (after it killed the old lady), but the ending was fantastic.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on September 02, 2003, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: themodernage02i want someone to name 5 better horror films of the past 5 years.

I'll add five more to Ghostboy's:

Final Destination
Mothman Prophecies
Fraility
Pitch Black
The Cell
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on September 02, 2003, 04:18:37 AM
Just for fun, here's five more.

Blair Witch Project
Sixth Sense
The Others
Sleepy Hollow
Mulholland Dr.
and if you don't think Mulholland Dr. counts, Ringu does.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 02, 2003, 09:11:53 AM
Hell, for pure entertainment value, I enjoyed "Resident Evil" more than "Jeepers Creepers"

Also, "Session 9" knocks Jeepers' socks off.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: markums2k on September 02, 2003, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliHell, for pure entertainment value, I enjoyed "Resident Evil" more than "Jeepers Creepers"

Also, "Session 9" knocks Jeepers' socks off.

Do you like Session 9 or do you hate it?

I thought it had amazing potential, but it was just kinda sucky when it was all over.  Definitely not the worst I've ever seen though.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on September 02, 2003, 10:50:59 AM
The Devil's Backbone is another one.

I had a reason to like Jeepers Creepers. It was filmed in my original home town and county (they were looking for as desolate a place as possible and I don't think they could have gotten a better place). I really wanted to like it, but it devolved into crap faster than a Cream of Wheat shooter.

I still like the Creeper as a horror villian. It's a shame he's always involved with such terrible acting victims.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 02, 2003, 10:54:32 AM
markums2k wrote:

QuoteDo you like Session 9 or do you hate it?

I thought it had amazing potential, but it was just kinda sucky when it was all over. Definitely not the worst I've ever seen though.

I like it quite a bit. Fantastically atmospheric (a real deteriorating mental institution beats a Hollywood set any day) and truly scary in many parts. Certainly, its ends a bit too quickly (and, dare I say, predictably), but I think part of the reason for the letdown at the end is that you want more scenes in Danvers. The building really is the star of the show, although with those creepy audiotapes with the doctor and schizophrenic patient. And David Caruso lends a strong performance that again reminds you how good season 1 of NYPD Blue was.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 02, 2003, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Mothman Prophecies

..great film IMO.......under-rated..?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: RegularKarate on September 02, 2003, 01:58:44 PM
Quote from: RaikusThe Devil's Backbone is another one.

God damn right it is!


Jeepers Creepers is just plain stupid... that would be the end of the story, but it's not.

It's also made by a convicted child molester and is about a predator that chases down some young'ns and wins... that is just sick.  Worse than wife beatin' Billy Bob Thornton writing a movie where a wife beatin' son of a bitch is a victim of misunderstanding.

That shouldn't be a factor in my dislike of the movie... and it isn't... it's just a bad movie.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: modage on September 02, 2003, 10:38:43 PM
lets see...

Quote from: GhostboyThe Ring
28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
The Blair Witch Project
May

the ring i loved,  thats up there.  28 days was good but i didnt like it better.  it didnt really give me anything in a zombie movie i hadnt seen before, (with the possible exception of fast moving zombies, and an awkwardly placed Grandaddy song).  cabin fever i cant wait for.  blair witch although different and culturally impactful, i dont think was really a better 'film'.  i havent seen it since its limited release though.  and may was cool, but not my cup of tea.

Quote from: CinephileJust for fun, here's five more.

Blair Witch Project - not as good
Sixth Sense - spooky,  not a horror movie
The Others - ditto
Sleepy Hollow - uhh,  no.
Mulholland Dr. - uhh, no WAY.
and if you don't think Mulholland Dr. counts, Ringu does - counts, but sucks.

Quote from: Find Your MagaliHell, for pure entertainment value, I enjoyed "Resident Evil" more than "Jeepers Creepers".
uhh, you're crazy.

Quote from: RaikusThe Devil's Backbone is another one.

well done.  spooky, not a horror movie.

Quote from: RegularKarateJeepers Creepers is just plain stupid... that would be the end of the story, but it's not.

It's also made by a convicted child molester and is about a predator that chases down some young'ns and wins... that is just sick.  Worse than wife beatin' Billy Bob Thornton writing a movie where a wife beatin' son of a bitch is a victim of misunderstanding.

That shouldn't be a factor in my dislike of the movie... and it isn't... it's just a bad movie.

it seems like its a major factor.  why is it plain stupid?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: oakmanc234 on September 03, 2003, 04:30:14 AM
I think 'The Blair Witch Project' is a fucking brilliant picture. People just aren't into it as much because it was OVER-hyped. If it didn't hit at the box-office, people would be praising its greatness.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Raikus on September 03, 2003, 09:17:18 AM
I kind of disagree. When I first saw Blair Witch in the theaters it was freaky. The whole audience was into it and with all the hype and "is it real/isn't it real" stuff going on made the movie infinitely better. When I watched it on DVD it just fell flat on its face. The lameness shined through. The only reason it was a success was because of the over-hype.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: phil marlowe on September 03, 2003, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: RaikusI kind of disagree. When I first saw Blair Witch in the theaters it was freaky. The whole audience was into it and with all the hype and "is it real/isn't it real" stuff going on made the movie infinitely better. When I watched it on DVD it just fell flat on its face. The lameness shined through. The only reason it was a success was because of the over-hype.
it only works one time, that's a given. but that one time i thought it was great.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: RegularKarate on September 03, 2003, 01:04:46 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: RegularKarateJeepers Creepers is just plain stupid... that would be the end of the story, but it's not.

It's also made by a convicted child molester and is about a predator that chases down some young'ns and wins... that is just sick.  Worse than wife beatin' Billy Bob Thornton writing a movie where a wife beatin' son of a bitch is a victim of misunderstanding.

That shouldn't be a factor in my dislike of the movie... and it isn't... it's just a bad movie.
Quote from: themodernage02
it seems like its a major factor.  why is it plain stupid?

It's not a major factor... I hated that movie before I even realized who made it.

The beginning was good... like I said before.  Once you see the Goblin or Goon or whatever ridiculous "monster" this Jeeper Creeper thing is, it just gets silly.  Not scary anymore and while it almost got funny, it took itself too seriously to go that direction.  I like a good horror film... this was just a bad monster movie.  And the end seemed like they had started shooting it without finishing the script and all of a sudden were like "oh shit, we need an ending".

"Jeepers Creepers?  More like 'Sleeping Peepers'!"
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: ono on September 03, 2003, 03:30:43 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate"Jeepers Creepers?  More like 'Sleeping Peepers'!"
Down, Gene!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 28, 2003, 10:57:16 PM
here are three more...

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Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: bonanzataz on October 28, 2003, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURYhere are three more...
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how dare you! this movie is awesome!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 28, 2003, 11:49:33 PM
.its been a while since I saw it last..but i remember looking like this..
:arrow:  :? ..afterwords...

may be i should tryy it again.....
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: SHAFTR on October 29, 2003, 12:09:09 AM
Godzilla (1998)

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Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: samsong on October 29, 2003, 02:03:46 AM
put these at the top of your queue for Netflix:

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Pups (1999) - easily the worst movie ever made given how seriously it asks to be taken... girl in the movie is the chick on The OC... she's blossomed nicely...


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The Postman (1997) - three hours of pure shit.  I HATED Kevin Costner for making this "film"
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: SHAFTR on October 29, 2003, 02:10:11 AM
Pups is 100% at Rottentomatoes.com

I have never seen it, or heard of it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on October 29, 2003, 05:25:49 AM
It's funny how the European film "Il Postino" (The Postman) is in the Best European films and Costner's "The Postman" is listed in the Worst Movies Ever thread.
Costner will never win.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Cecil on October 29, 2003, 06:22:23 AM
but roger ebert says "awesome-- pups is a headlong rush"
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: godardian on October 29, 2003, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: Cecilbut roger ebert says "awesome-- pups is a headlong rush"

That Roger Ebert simply never tires of giving time-honored advice borne of his immersion in cinema history, honed in his sickle-sharp mind, and presented to us, the eager listeners/viewers, in the authoritative tones befitting a man of his standing.

His approbation for Pups has inspired me to rush- headlong- down to my local Blockbuster and scout the bargain bins, hoping, nay, PRAYING for an only somewhat sticky, only slightly battered Pups nestled under a stack of used Next Best Thing DVDs..
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 29, 2003, 10:10:46 PM
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Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Alethia on October 29, 2003, 10:19:38 PM
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oh come on, this was funny....
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 29, 2003, 10:24:03 PM
..allright i will try to find three more that hopefully won't get rejected.... :wink:
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on October 29, 2003, 10:33:34 PM
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Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: modage on October 30, 2003, 12:15:49 AM
eva mmmmendes. 8)
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: freakerdude on October 30, 2003, 11:28:28 AM
Here's a few of my worst and some have been mentioned:

Minus Men
Bad Lieutenant
The Cell
Dogma
Mr. Deeds
Freddy Got Fingered

anything that stars Steven Segal, Jean Claude Van Damme, Dolph Lundgren, Brian Bosworth, Shaq, Dennis Rodman, etc.

Ishtar is touted to be one of the worst all time films. Has anyone seen it?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 30, 2003, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: freakerdudeHere's a few of my worst and some have been mentioned:

Minus Men
Bad Lieutenant
The Cell
Dogma

...i aCtually like these esp. owen in minus man..it's kinda cool..
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: godardian on October 30, 2003, 04:07:40 PM
I liked Minus Man, too. It was much richer than you could've made me believe before I actually saw it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cron on April 12, 2004, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from:  A long time ago,Jeremy BlackmanDirty Dancing.

The European version is better.   "Filthy Dancing."
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: samsong on April 12, 2004, 04:17:36 PM
i saw bruno dumont's Twentynine Palms this past weekend and can safely say it's the worst, most excruciating experience of my life thus far watching a film... i avoid most of the bad movies pretty well but fuckers like Jeremany Heilman (//www.moviemartyr.com) had me thinking it was actually a good film.  it's experimental (though not really since it tries to delve into "new ways of filmmaking" that have already been done) and some may love it but to me it was a complete and utter failure, not to mention a waste of $9.25. easily the most pretentious movie ever made.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: A Matter Of Chance on April 12, 2004, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: N the E digital O rape N
Quote from: jokerspath
Milk Money


..You know what this is a good call i forgot how horrible this was....its one of those films that after you watch it you immediately put it out of youir head..b/c its sucks so bad.Then when sopmeone brings it back up (as in this case..)..you quickly remeber the film and how crappy it was good choice. :yabbse-thumbup:

I saw this on a plane once when I was very little, I stayed up all night just to see it... mistakes, mistakes.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: godardian on April 12, 2004, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: samsongi saw bruno dumont's Twentynine Palms this past weekend and can safely say it's the worst, most excruciating experience of my life thus far watching a film... i avoid most of the bad movies pretty well but fuckers like Jeremany Heilman (//www.moviemartyr.com) had me thinking it was actually a good film.  it's experimental (though not really since it tries to delve into "new ways of filmmaking" that have already been done) and some may love it but to me it was a complete and utter failure, not to mention a waste of $9.25. easily the most pretentious movie ever made.

I loved Humanite, so I'll be seeing this for the Dumont connection...
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: grand theft sparrow on April 12, 2004, 05:24:24 PM
Why are flights such prime locations for horrible movies?  The worst was a flight I once took from NYC to London: Beautician and the Beast followed by Fools Rush In.

Thank God for Virgin Atlantic and Jet Blue with TVs at each seat.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: samsong on April 12, 2004, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: godardian
Quote from: samsongi saw bruno dumont's Twentynine Palms this past weekend and can safely say it's the worst, most excruciating experience of my life thus far watching a film... i avoid most of the bad movies pretty well but fuckers like Jeremany Heilman (//www.moviemartyr.com) had me thinking it was actually a good film.  it's experimental (though not really since it tries to delve into "new ways of filmmaking" that have already been done) and some may love it but to me it was a complete and utter failure, not to mention a waste of $9.25. easily the most pretentious movie ever made.

I loved Humanite, so I'll be seeing this for the Dumont connection...

this was my first Dumont... i'll be interested to see what you think of it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Banky on April 12, 2004, 06:41:44 PM
Quote from: themodernage02eva mmmmendes. 8)


for the longest time i thought that you were saying she was the worst movie ever and i always thought it was really random and funny but now it has just been wideld down to some chest type comment
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: modage on April 12, 2004, 07:06:20 PM
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: themodernage02eva mmmmendes. 8)


for the longest time i thought that you were saying she was the worst movie ever and i always thought it was really random and funny but now it has just been wideld down to some chest type comment
i was making a reference to its prior use in this thread....
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Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: El Duderino on April 12, 2004, 07:46:25 PM
the in crowd
the alamo
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: matt35mm on April 12, 2004, 07:48:15 PM
Everything about The Alamo looks boring.  Jeez, even the title is so boring!

"REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!"  "... no..."

Um... Eight Crazy Nights was definitely one of the worst movies I've seen.  So that's got my vote.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: soixante on April 13, 2004, 02:40:57 AM
The worst film I've seen recently is The Singing Detective, which I turned off after 10 minutes, a new record for me.  Other terrible films -- Death to Smoochy, Trixie, Romeo is Bleeding, Breakfast of Champions. Gun Crazy, Perfect Storm.  For all time worst, Won Ton Ton the Dog Who Saved Hollywood makes the cut alongside Sgt. Pepper and the first Star Trek movie and Rocky III.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: moonshiner on April 13, 2004, 11:42:25 PM
wait, Rocky 3, you hate, and never mention Rocky 5, must have not seen it
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 14, 2004, 01:12:14 AM
So nobody's going to agree with Dirty Dancing?

Quote from: matt35mmUm... Eight Crazy Nights was definitely one of the worst movies I've seen.  So that's got my vote.
Except for that one song towards the end. That was a great song.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Thrindle on April 14, 2004, 01:17:00 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanSo nobody's going to agree with Dirty Dancing?
Except for that one song towards the end. That was a great song.

Dude, that is the best movie in chick flick history!  Where else is a movie set in the 60's... so incredibly 80's?!  THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: matt35mm on April 14, 2004, 01:18:04 AM
Man I fell asleep after the song about the mall!  GODDDDD!!!  And I almost never sleep during a movie.  It was a song about how Foot Locker will warm your feet and Subway will keep your belly full and it just... sucked.  And the little old dude wasn't as funny as maybe he could've been.  I hated that movie.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on April 14, 2004, 01:22:30 AM
So many black & white avatars. When will you all be upgrading to colour and joining us in 2004?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: soixante on April 14, 2004, 02:54:34 AM
Rocky III was even worse than Rocky II, a film which I gave zero stars to.  I haven't seen Rocky IV, but I heard it is not only merely terrible, but it is also padded out with footage from previous Rocky films.  As for Rocky V, I haven't had the pleasure of viewing it, although I did see a five-minute chunk on cable recently.  The scene featured Tommy Morrison and Sylvester Stallone bellowing at each other.  I can only assume that the scene was indicative of the movie as a whole.  An exercise in Stanislavskian nuance, it ain't.  I enjoyed the first Rocky movie.  There was no reason to turn Rocky into a franchise, other than greed.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cron on April 14, 2004, 06:29:00 AM
Quote from: Cinephile 9000So many black & white avatars. When will you all be upgrading to colour and joining us in 2004 2001?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Sigur Rós on April 14, 2004, 08:19:40 AM
HEY, who is paying the electricity in this thread?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: indiana on April 16, 2004, 06:12:12 PM
rollerball
X-files: the movie
the animal.
george of the jungle 2
go kart
WILLOW!!! WILLOW MUST DIE!

peace
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: El Duderino on April 16, 2004, 06:24:32 PM
inspector gadget 2, with French Stewart...come to think of it, anything with French Stewart is bad.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on April 17, 2004, 10:19:16 AM
Quote from: soixanteAn exercise in Stanislavskian nuance, it ain't.

"Stanislavskian Nuance" would be a great name for a band.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cine on April 17, 2004, 12:05:46 PM
Quote from: Find Your Magali"Stanislavskian Nuance" would be a great name for a band.
I registered that name already.1 minute ago
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: soixante on April 17, 2004, 03:48:48 PM
Other good names for bands:

Artificial Anus

Subnormal Intelligence

ADHD
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pedro on April 17, 2004, 04:08:55 PM
80 d
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 17, 2004, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: matt35mmMan I fell asleep after the song about the mall!  GODDDDD!!!  And I almost never sleep during a movie.  It was a song about how Foot Locker will warm your feet and Subway will keep your belly full and it just... sucked.  And the little old dude wasn't as funny as maybe he could've been.  I hated that movie.
No, I'm talking about the song that goes "bum diddy diddy diddy bum bum"... Everything else about that movie was terrible, though.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cron on April 17, 2004, 04:17:52 PM
Quote from: soixanteOther good names for bands:

Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanThe Bum Diddy Diddy Diddy Bum Bum's
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 17, 2004, 07:54:11 PM
good band name: placenta milkshake

horrible film: renaissance man
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Tictacbk on April 18, 2004, 12:32:48 AM
I had to watch You've Got Mail in some stupid class last week because my crackhead teacher was convinced that it has marxist views in it.

God that movie sucks.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: panthera_tigris on April 18, 2004, 01:15:26 AM
I know some of you may GASP at my choice for worst movie, but to me it was ruthlessly absurd in how devastatingly boring it was: 28 days later.

That's right, I said it, do something.

Another bad movie: Iron Monkey
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 18, 2004, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: panthera_tigrisI know some of you may GASP at my choice for worst movie, but to me it was ruthlessly absurd in how devastatingly boring it was: 28 days later.

That's right, I said it, do something.

Another bad movie: Iron Monkey
You have made two very unfortunate choices, my friend.

How is 28 Days Later boring? Were you expecting an action movie?

And Iron Monkey is a great movie. Where else have you seen some one killed with a grape?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on April 18, 2004, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: TictacbkI had to watch You've Got Mail in some stupid class last week because my crackhead teacher was convinced that it has marxist views in it.

God that movie sucks.

They should have made the whole movie about the Heather Burns and Steve Zahn characters at the bookstore. She was impossibly cute, he was predictably hilarious and they were just about the only two worth watching.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Chest Rockwell on April 18, 2004, 10:46:04 AM
28 Days Later was OK, though I think it was a rather innovative zombie flick. I don't think it's really what she thinks of as the WORST picture though. She's probably trying to get us to talk back. Speaking of which, I think Magnolia is the worst film ever. What the eff was up wit da frogs?!?!?!
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: panthera_tigris on April 18, 2004, 11:54:42 AM
I wasn't trying to get anyone to talk back about my choice of 28 days later. I genuinely despised the movie. I expected it would be bad, and perhaps the whole "self-fulfilling prophecy" bit me on the ass cuz I only saw it as something bad and stupid for many many reasons. I don't wanna beat a dead horse though, so let's drop it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 18, 2004, 01:37:43 PM
Let's talk about Dirty Dancing, then.

Anybody up for a Dirty Dancing chat, a la MST3K?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Find Your Magali on April 18, 2004, 02:40:05 PM
That's implying that a lot of people have access to that movie.

Or that you can convince a lot of people to be seen in the act of renting it.  :oops:
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: SHAFTR on April 18, 2004, 02:53:43 PM
I just bought Speed on DVD...and that reminds me...

Speed 2 is just horrible.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: MacGuffin on June 16, 2005, 02:32:05 PM
The Worst Movie Ever Made
The long, strange journey of ''Manos: The Hands of Fate''
Source: Entertainment Weekly

Out in the desert, almost 20 miles from downtown El Paso, stands a relic of film history. Of really, really bad film history. To view the area now is to see only broken beer bottles, a collapsed roof and floor, and such graffiti scrawlings as ''In memory of the dead'' and ''No one gets out alive.'' It looks like any other abandoned property-turned-vandals' delight. But here, 39 years ago, among the prickly pear cacti and mesquite trees — and just a stone's throw away from Mexico — a ragtag group of Texans banded together to make their own little horror picture. Little did they know they would end up creating what is widely regarded as, quite simply, the worst movie ever made. It is even ranked as such on IMDb.com, the encyclopedic Internet Movie Database. But this is a story about more than mere incompetence. It's about hope, possibilities, embarrassment, humiliation, tragedy, and — finally — redemption. It is the story of Manos: The Hands of Fate.

Leave it to a fertilizer salesman to make the crappiest film in history. Harold P. Warren (Hal to friends and family) may have sold manure for a living, but he dreamt of leaving a different sort of imprint in the soil. Warren was active in the local El Paso theater scene, wrote books and plays, and was constantly seeking new adventures. (Once, after watching his children Wendy and Joe play with LEGOs in the basement, the aspiring inventor came up with the idea of creating giant cement LEGOs to use for building real houses. He called them Superblocks. Okay, not exactly Edison material, but still. . .)

But it was during a meeting with Oscar-winning screenwriter Stirling Silliphant at a Texas coffee shop that Manos was born. Warren had previously met Silliphant while filming a walk-on as a bus driver in an episode of the TV show Route 66. During the conversation, Warren boasted that making a movie wasn't so hard. Anybody could make a movie. Heck, even he could make one. Warren bet Silliphant that he could take a film all the way from conception to completion. Tellingly, the first outline for his master script was written right then and there on napkins. The story was standard B-grade horror — family (husband Michael, wife Margaret, and daughter Debbie) gets lost en route to a vacation and stumbles upon a horrifying fate. Less standard, however, was a half-man, half-goat character named Torgo, or the mysterious cult leader known simply as the Master who walked around sporting a robe with giant red hands on it. Perhaps the film's first sign of ineptitude was the title itself, Manos: The Hands of Fate, which translates a tad redundantly to Hands: The Hands of Fate.

After raising $19,000 from neighbors and friends, Warren went about assembling his dream cast. He started with. . .himself. In addition to writing, directing, and producing, Hal would also play the husband. The rest of the cast came mostly from either local theater (including Tom Neyman as the Master and John Reynolds as satyr Torgo) or the Mannequin Manor modeling school (from which Warren plucked women to play the Master's multiple wives who would spend the majority of their screen time catfighting in oversize girdles).

People were so excited that they agreed to work for free. In fact, the only member of the cast and crew to be paid was Neyman's 6-year-old daughter, Jackey Neyman (now Jones), who played Hal's on-screen daughter, Debbie. ''I got a red bicycle,'' says Jones. Jackey's pet Doberman, Shanka, who played the Master's evil sidekick, was also compensated for his efforts with 50 pounds of dog food. (He must have had a good agent.) The rest of the cast and crew were all promised percentages of the film's sure-to-be-vast profits. ''Everybody did it on speculation,'' explains Pat Littledog, who was then married to Manos cinematographer Robert Guidry. ''There was no money involved — just having little shares of the work. They were all excited to be a part of it.'' Only there seemed to be a few too many shares going around. ''I was getting 6 percent,'' says stunt coordinator-actor Bernie Rosenblum, who spent his entire time on screen in a car chugging tequila and sucking face with a brunette. ''But then we all started talking and realized that everybody's percentages added together equaled, like, 300 percent!''

With cast and crew in place, Warren just needed to find a place to film the thing. He didn't have to look far. Warren shared an office floor with a lawyer named Colbert Coldwell who was just getting ready to run for county judge. When Coldwell told Warren about his property, it seemed perfect. ''They wanted. . .well, I don't know what they wanted,'' says Coldwell, now 84, of that desert property, which he still owns and lives on. It might have been the collection of one-story-high columns that his father had hauled away from the federal courthouse when it was torn down in 1932, although Coldwell notes with resignation that ''they're not too imposing. . .. The director said he knew about films. I don't know if he knew anything much.''

Manos filmed throughout the summer of 1966. By all accounts, it was grueling. ''They were all working eight hours a day at their regular jobs and then going and shooting all night out in the middle of the desert,'' says Richard Brandt, a fan who has become something of a Manos historian. Although everyone was thrilled to be involved, it soon became clear that making a movie requires things like money, time, and talent — none of which Warren possessed in abundance. As a result, mistakes during filming were either missed or intentionally ignored. ''Everybody was always questioning Hal, asking 'How is this going to work?''' remembers Jones. ''When I would worry about the way things were going, he'd say to me, 'Oh, don't worry. It'll be fine. We'll fix it. We'll fix it.'''

Whether it was an evening scene being filmed in broad daylight, Margaret's scarf magically appearing and disappearing between shots, or car headlights appearing in the background during a scene allegedly taking place in the middle of nowhere, there were many instances in which the faith of cast and crew was severely tested. Yet Hal would always assure them of a magic studio in Dallas in which anything could be corrected. That's because that's what Rosenblum and Guidry had led him to believe. ''Whenever Hal got worried about something being wrong, Bob and I would say, 'We can fix it in the lab,''' laughs Rosenblum. ''Because we weren't getting paid, and it was getting old fast. And he'd be like, 'Oh, okay.'''

Warren's on-set demeanor also needed work. ''He was probably the least friendly of anybody on the set,'' says Jones. ''He played my father, but at the same time, we had no connection whatsoever. He kind of barked out orders and I personally tried to avoid him.'' One day, Guidry even mocked the director by showing up to set dressed like Erich von Stroheim. But there was always one person who could be counted on to lighten the mood: John Reynolds. ''He made it his job to keep me entertained with magic tricks and funny faces,'' says Jones. Little did she know that much of said silliness was artificially enhanced. ''I think he was high on acid the whole time,'' says Littledog.

That certainly would help explain Reynolds' unique performance as Torgo, the enigmatic caretaker with knobby knees. Seemingly operating in his own special universe, Reynolds bumbled, stumbled, and very slowly convulsed his way throughout Manos, with an awkwardness that for viewers is equally engaging and enraging. ''When you watch the film,'' says Jones, ''you gotta figure he was stoned the whole time.'' On Oct. 16, a few months after production ended, the troubled thespian/shipping clerk, the son of a military officer at nearby Fort Bliss, put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. He was only 25. ''My mother was taking me to school when we heard it on the radio that he had shot himself,'' says Jones. ''I remember she was so upset she had to pull over.'' ''Obviously, he had some kind of a problem that he wasn't able to deal with,'' says Rosenblum. ''But it had nothing to do with the movie.''

On Nov. 15, 1966, Manos: The Hands of Fate made its worldwide debut at the Capri Theater in downtown El Paso. By all accounts, it was a gala affair with spotlights scanning the skies, and the stars of the film all arriving by limousine. Only one problem — it was the same limousine. Strapped for cash, Warren had only enough dough to rent one limo, so the actors were forced to stand out in the street around the corner and wait their turn to be picked up. ''We all waited in our fancy clothes and tuxedos like we were waiting for a bus,'' says Jones. ''And the limousine would pick up a few people, drive them around, drop them off, and then drive around the block and pick up some more people. And even at 7 years old, I remember thinking how silly that was, and at some point that someone was gonna realize it was the same car and driver.''

A ceremony took place in which Warren was presented with a deputy's badge by the county sheriff. The mayor was even there. According to Jones, ''It was one of the biggest things that had happened in El Paso up to that point, other than, you know, Lee Trevino, the golfer.'' And then the film began.

''Right away,'' says Jones, she knew they were in trouble. It didn't help that the first few lines of dialogue were delivered from people facing away from the camera. And it certainly hurt when the film began with a mind-numbingly long driving scene. ''The driving scene goes on forever,'' moans Jones. ''It's just horrible. It just goes and goes and goes. People were looking around. . .. I'm sure my parents were exchanging glances over my head and going 'Oh, s---.'''

It wasn't long before the looking around turned into something else. ''It took about six minutes,'' estimates Rosenblum. ''It was very quiet, and then there was one snicker, then a couple, maybe two guffaws, and then just out-and-out laughing their asses off.'' Perhaps the crowd had never witnessed entire scenes out of focus before. Perhaps they had never seen such things as a marking slate or an insect bumping into the camera lens actually make a final cut. Or perhaps they were trying to figure out why every single voice in the movie was dubbed — badly. (Since the camera used for Manos could not capture sound, all the dialogue was recorded in a studio by Warren, his wife, Neyman, and Diane Mahree, as well as two others who did all of the other voices.) Unfortunately, not all of the cast had been made aware of this development. ''Nobody told me that the voices were being dubbed,'' says Jones. ''So here I am all excited, and then I come on the screen and my mouth opens and it's some squeaky lady's voice. I just sat there and cried.''

But Manos' badness went beyond mere technical gaffes. Even simple motions were carried out to unintentionally comedic extremes, like Torgo's impossibly drawn-out attempt to stroke Margaret's hair. The dialogue was ultra-repetitive (''There is no way out of here. It will be dark soon. There is no way out of here''), and yet almost every shot started and finished with an insanely uncomfortable amount of silence. The only truly scary thing in the film was during the final credits, when the words The End were followed by a big question mark, implying the possibility of a sequel. By that time, however, most of the audience — including Rosenblum and Guidry, who snuck out and went straight to a bar — had already left. Coldwell recalls his nephew Eliot Shapleigh (now a Texas state senator) even demanded his money back — although, he adds, ''I don't even remember him paying!''

The morning after the premiere, under the headline ''Hero Massaged to Death,'' The El Paso Herald Post reviewed the film, generously noting that ''perhaps by scrapping the soundtrack and running it with subtitles or dubbing in Esperanto, it could be promoted as a foreign art film of some sort or other.'' After a limited run at the Capri and a few showings at West Texas drive-ins, Manos: The Hands of Fate was dead. Hal Warren had won his bet, but lost his dream of cinematic immortality. And then, a funny thing happened on the way to the graveyard.

More than 25 years later, writers for a Minneapolis-based television show called Mystery Science Theater 3000 were sifting through a box of tapes sent from Comedy Central headquarters in New York City. MST3K specialized in showing really bad movies complete with a running gag commentary courtesy of a comedian (Joel Hodgson) and his two robot pals. But even they weren't prepared for what lay in store for them on the tape marked Manos. ''We started watching it, and had never seen anything like that,'' says Mike Nelson, head writer at the time. ''We kept saying to ourselves, There is no way we can do this movie, it is just too bizarre. But we finally decided, No, we must bring this to the world.'' On Jan. 30, 1993, Manos was not only back from the dead but playing to a nationwide TV audience. A new generation of fans — okay, a first generation of fans — was born.

The Manos episode became Mystery Science Theater's most popular episode ever. Nelson recalls going into a computer store shortly after the show aired only to see a Torgo screensaver running across every monitor. ''It really stands out among all the bad movies they've shown as being a movie that has no real content or purpose,'' says Manos buff Bobby Thompson, who was born more than 10 years after the movie came out and caught it on MST3K. ''It's like a train wreck — you just can't take your eyes off it. It's something you really have to see to understand. And even if you see it, you may not fully understand it.''

Through repeats, passed-around videotapes, and websites like Thompson's own Torgo-themed page (chosen because the satyr ''really conveys the entire badness of the movie''), the legend of Manos grew. Not one but two DVD versions of the film (the original and the MST3K one) were released, and a group of Canadians recently completed a documentary on the movie titled Hotel Torgo.

Unfortunately, the man who created it isn't around to enjoy the renaissance. After Manos, Hal Warren tried again, writing a script titled Wild Desert Bikers, in which a schoolteacher is kidnapped by a biker gang and dragged into the woods. He showed it to Guidry and Rosenblum, who politely declined to get involved, so instead he turned it into a book titled Satan Rides a Bike and shopped it to publishers. (They also politely declined.) While daughter Wendy Barbieri says that her dad ''was the first one to admit Manos was the worst movie ever made,'' he was also proud of the film, even going so far as to sport the Master's robe every Halloween. (Son Joe Warren now carries on the tradition.) ''He took something from nothing and got it to the end, and that was what the whole bet was,'' says Barbieri.

''My dad made a movie, and it turned out to be the worst thing known, but at least people recognize that he did something,'' says Joe. ''Here's a guy who was able to concoct this story on a napkin, and proved you don't have to be the George Lucases of the world to make it happen.'' Warren died Dec. 26, 1985, from lung cancer and heart problems. What would he think about being celebrated as the director of the worst movie ever? ''He'd love it!'' says Barbieri. ''He'd probably start lurking on different websites and then pop out and say, 'Hey, guess who I am!' And he'd be the first person to give anyone advice or encouragement.'' Rosenblum agrees. ''Say what you will about Hal, but that motherf---er did it! Now, what he did, I'm not quite sure,'' he adds. ''But he did it.''
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pubrick on March 29, 2010, 11:22:32 PM
this is an open apology from the guy who wrote Battlefield Earth in which he blames his penis..

I penned the suckiest movie ever - sorry!

By J.D. SHAPIRO

Last Updated: 4:32 PM, March 28, 2010
source: NYpost (http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/movies/penned_the_suckiest_movie_ever_sorry_MdXedZpTMWJmfpw80Xc7aO/0)

This month, "Battlefield Earth," the blockbuster bomb based on the novel by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, won the Razzie for "Worst Movie of the Decade." J.D. Shapiro, the film's first screenwriter, accepted the award in person. Shapiro, who also wrote the screenplay for "Robin Hood: Men in Tights," "We Married Margo," and is developing a King Arthur spoof called "524 AD" (524AD.com), explains what it's like to be attached to one of Hollywood's most notorious flops.

Let me start by apologizing to anyone who went to see "Battlefield Earth."

It wasn't as I intended -- promise. No one sets out to make a train wreck. Actually, comparing it to a train wreck isn't really fair to train wrecks, because people actually want to watch those.

It started, as so many of my choices do, with my Willy Wonker.

It was 1994, and I had read an article in Premiere magazine saying that the Celebrity Center, the Scientology epicenter in Los Angeles, was a great place to meet women.

Willy convinced me to go check it out. Touring the building, I didn't find any eligible women at first, but I did meet Karen Hollander, president of the center, who said she was a fan of "Robin Hood: Men in Tights." We ended up talking for over two hours. She told me why Scientology is so great. I told her that, when it comes to organized religion, anything a person does to reward, threaten and try to control people by using an unknown like the afterlife is dangerous.

Nonetheless, Karen called me a few days later asking if I'd be interested in turning any of L. Ron Hubbard's books into movies. Eventually, I had dinner with John Travolta, his wife Kelly Preston, Karen -- about 10 Scientologists in all. John asked me, "So, J.D., what brought you to Scientology?"

I told him. John smiled and replied, "We have tech that can help you handle that." I don't know if he meant they had technology that would help me get laid or technology that would stop Willy from doing the majority of my thinking.

I researched Scientology before signing on to the movie, to make sure I wasn't making anything that would indoctrinate people. I took a few courses, including the Purification Rundown, or Purif. You go to CC every day, take vitamins and go in and out of a sauna so toxins are released from your body. You're supposed to reach an "End Point." I never did, but I was bored so I told them I had a vision of L. Ron. They said, "What did he say?" "Pull my finger," was my response. They said I was done.

During my Scientology research, I met an employee who I instantly had a crush on. She was kind of a priestess, and had dedicated her life to working for the church by becoming a Sea Org member. She said that she signed a billion-year contract. I said, "What! Really?" She said she got paid a small stipend of $50 a week, to which I said, "Can you get an advance on the billion years, like say, a mere $500,000?" And then she said as a Sea Org member, you can't have sex unless you're married. I asked her if she was married. She said yes. So I said, "Great! That means we can have sex!"
As far as I know, I am the only non-Scientologist to ever be on their cruise ship, the Freewind. I was a bit of an oddity, walking around in a robe, sandals, smoking Cuban cigars and drinking fine scotch (Scientologists are not allowed to drink while taking courses). I also got one of the best massages ever. My friends asked if I got a "happy ending." I said, "Yes, I got off the ship."

But if you're reading this to get the dirt on Scientology, sorry, no one ever tried to force me to do anything.

Even after all the "trouble" I'd gotten into, people at the church liked me, so I read "Battlefield Earth" and agreed to come up with a pitch to take to studios.

I met with Mike Marcus, the president of MGM, and pitched him my take. He loved it, and the next day negotiations went under way. A few days after I finished the script, a very excited Travolta called, told me he "loved it," and wanted to have dinner. At dinner, John said again how much he loved the script and called it "The 'Schindler's List' of sci-fi."

My script was very, VERY different than what ended up on the screen. My screenplay was darker, grittier and had a very compelling story with rich characters. What my screenplay didn't have was slow motion at every turn, Dutch tilts, campy dialogue, aliens in KISS boots, and everyone wearing Bob Marley wigs.

Shortly after that, John officially attached himself to the project. Then several A-list directors expressed interest in making the movie, MGM had a budget of $100 million, and life was grrrrreat! I got studio notes that were typical studio notes. Nothing too crazy. I incorporated the notes I felt worked, blew off the bad ones and did a polish. I sent it to the studio, thinking the next I'd hear is what director is attached.

Then I got another batch of notes. I thought it was a joke. They changed the entire tone. I knew these notes would kill the movie. The notes wanted me to lose key scenes, add ridiculous scenes, take out some of the key characters. I asked Mike where they came from. He said, "From us." But when I pressed him, he said, "From John's camp, but we agree with them."

I refused to incorporate the notes into the script and was fired.

I HAVE no idea why they wanted to go in this new direction, but here's what I heard from someone in John's camp: Out of all the books L. Ron wrote, this was the one the church founder wanted most to become a movie. He wrote extensive notes on how the movie should be made.

Many people called it a Scientology movie. It wasn't when I wrote it, and I don't feel it was in the final product. Yes, writers put their beliefs into a story. Sometimes it's subtle (I guess L. Ron had something against the color purple, I have no idea why), sometimes not so subtle (L. Ron hated psychiatry and psychologists, thus the reason, and I'm just guessing here, that the bad aliens were called "Psychlos").

The only time I saw the movie was at the premiere, which was one too many times.

Once it was decided that I would share a writing credit, I wanted to use my pseudonym, Sir Nick Knack. I was told I couldn't do that, because if a writer gets paid over a certain amount of money, they can't. I could have taken my name completely off the movie, but my agent and attorney talked me out of it. There was a lot of money at stake.

Now, looking back at the movie with fresh eyes, I can't help but be strangely proud of it. Because out of all the sucky movies, mine is the suckiest.

In the end, did Scientology get me laid? What do you think? No way do you get any action by boldly going up to a woman and proclaiming, "I wrote Battlefield Earth!" If anything, I'm trying to figure out a way to bottle it and use it as birth control. I'll make a mint!

Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 01, 2010, 02:17:30 AM
Best apology ever.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pubrick on June 01, 2010, 07:10:48 AM
this does not deserve it's own thread so i thought i'd post it here for us to all enjoy..

GT recently linked to this on his blog, it's a review of Sex and the City 2 that almost justifies the existence of that abomination. seriously just read it, it's not that long, and will give you good quips to repeat to the idiots you know who will go see this film:

Burkas and Birkins
I Watched 146 Minutes of Sex and the City 2 and All I Got Was This Religious Fundamentalism
by Lindy West


We've been thinking it for two long years. All of us. Gnawing our cheeks at night, clutching at sweaty sheets, our faces hollow and gray, our once-bright eyes dimmed by the pain of too many questions. Sometimes we cry out, en masse, to a faceless god and a cold, indifferent universe that holds its secrets close. What...  rasps the death rattle of our collective sanity. What is the lubrication level of Samantha Jones's 52-year-old vagina? Has the change of life dulled its sparkle? Do its aged and withered depths finally chafe from the endless pounding, pounding, pounding—cruel phallic penance demanded by the emotionally barren sexual compulsive from which it hangs? If I do not receive an update on the deep, gray caverns of Jones, I shall surely die!

Please don't die. The answer is... fine. Samantha's vagina is doing fine. She rubs yams on it, okay? She takes 48 vagina vitamins a day. It accepts unlimited male penises with the greatest of ease. Now let us never speak of it again.

Sex and the City 2 makes Phyllis Schlafly look like Andrea Dworkin. Or that super-masculine version of Cynthia Nixon that Cynthia Nixon dates. Or, like, Ralph Nader (wait, bad example—Schlafly totally does  look like Ralph Nader in a granny wig). SATC2 takes everything that I hold dear as a woman and as a human—working hard, contributing to society, not being an entitled cunt like it's my job—and rapes it to death with a stiletto that costs more than my car. It is 146 minutes long, which means that I entered the theater in the bloom of youth and emerged with a family of field mice living in my long, white mustache. This is an entirely inappropriate length for what is essentially a home video of gay men playing with giant Barbie dolls. But I digress. Let us start with the "plot."

Carrie Bradshaw: At the end of the first SATC movie (2008)—after eleventy decades of chasing his emotionally abusive jowls through the streets of Manhattan—Carrie finally marries Mr. Big, the man of her shallow, self-obsessed dreams. It has now been two years since their nuptials. Carrie already hates it. She hates that he sits on the couch. She hates that he eats noodles out of a take-out box. She hates that he wants to spend quality time with her in their incredibly expensive and gaudy apartment. She hates that he bought her an enormous television. When Big suggests that they spend a couple of days a week in separate apartments (they own TWO apartments, because life is hard!), Carrie screeches, "Is this because I'm a bitch wife who nags you?" Congratulations. You have answered your own question.

Miranda Redhairlawyerface: Miranda is a lawyer who has red hair. She also has a child. As a working woman, Miranda is forced to miss every single one of her child's incessant science fairs (as though children know anything of science!). Also, her lawyer boss is a cartoon dick. Miranda quits her job, and everyone is much happier. This is because women should not work. It is terrible for the children.

Charlotte Goldsteinjewyjewsomethingsomethingblatt: Life for Charlotte is unbelievably difficult. As a wealthy stay-at-home mom with two children and a live-in, full-time nanny, she sometimes has to bake cupcakes! Also, one time her little child got finger paint on a piece of vintage cloth. Therefore, Charlotte cannot stop crying. "How do the women without help do it?" Charlotte (crying) asks Miranda. "I have no fucking idea," Miranda replies. Then they toast their disgusting glasses of pink syrup. To "them." To the "women without help." "If I wasn't rich, I'd definitely just kill myself right away with a knife!" says everyone in this movie without having to actually say it. Clink!

Samantha Jones: I told you we are never to speak of this.

In order to escape their various imaginary problems, our intrepid foursome traipses off to dark, exotic Abu Dhabi ("I've always been fascinated by the Middle East—desert moons, Scheherazade, magic carpets!"). When they arrive, Carrie, because she is a professional writer, announces, "Oh, Toto—I don't think we're in Kansas anymore!" Each woman is immediately assigned an extra from Disney's Aladdin to spoon-feed her warm cinnamon milk in their $22,000-per-night hotel suite. Things seem to be going great. But very quickly, the SATC brain trust notices that it's not all swarthy man-slaves and flying carpets in Abu Dhabi! In fact, Abu Dhabi is crawling with Muslim women—and not one of them is dressed like a super-liberated diamond-encrusted fucking clown!!! Oppression! OPPRESSION!!!

This will not stand. Samantha, being the prostitute sexual revolutionary that she is, rages against the machine by publicly grabbing the engorged penis of a man she dubs "Lawrence of My-Labia." When the locals complain (having repeatedly asked Samantha to cover her nipples and mons pubis in the way of local custom), Samantha removes most of her clothes in the middle of the spice bazaar, throws condoms in the faces of the angry and bewildered crowd, and screams, "I AM A WOMAN! I HAVE SEX!" Thus, traditional Middle Eastern sexual mores are upended and sexism is stoned to death in the town square.

At sexism's funeral (which takes place in a mysterious, incense-shrouded chamber of international sisterhood), the women of Abu Dhabi remove their black robes and veils to reveal—this is not a joke—the same hideous, disposable, criminally expensive shreds of cloth and feathers that hang from Carrie et al.'s emaciated goblin shoulders. Muslim women: Under those craaaaaaay-zy robes, they're just as vapid and obsessed with physical beauty and meaningless material concerns as us! Feminism! Fuck yeah!

If this is what modern womanhood means, then just fucking veil me and sew up all my holes. Good night.


http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/burkas-and-birkins/Content?oid=4132715

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"a home video of gay men playing with giant Barbie dolls."

now THAT's marquee material.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pas on June 01, 2010, 08:14:03 AM
Is this real, the condoms in the face of men part etc?

If so: epic.

Great review.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Fernando on June 01, 2010, 11:25:52 AM
Quote from: P on June 01, 2010, 07:10:48 AM
a review of Sex and the City 2 that almost justifies the existence of that abomination.

hahaha. I almost want to see it just to know if everything she wrote is real, but won't, this hilarious review will do.

thanks for posting that, made my day.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 01, 2010, 01:20:50 PM
Very cool this review was posted over here. Something I had to read a few times over to get all of the laughs out.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: ©brad on June 03, 2010, 08:42:59 AM
That review felt so good to read.

Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: ©brad on June 04, 2010, 10:14:23 AM
And so did this one:

Why the Sex and the City 2 reviews were misogynistic
Women-led films often attract sexist derision. Yet critics rave over male films such as the execrable Hot Tub Time Machine. Why the double standard?
Source: Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jun/04/sex-and-city-critics-misogynists)

I didn't enjoy Sex and the City 2. The script was blunt and repetitive, the characterisation illogical, the set-pieces overlong, the direction sloppy, the tone erratic. The scenes in Abu Dhabi were shallow, baffling and ignorant. Writer/director Michael Patrick King now has to tote this big glittery cake of caca on his CV for ever.

Oddly, though, for a film written by a man, the critics' insults were reserved for women, in a dazzling display of put-downs. Sukhdev Sandhu in the Telegraph sneered at the women for "all getting older" adding that Sarah Jessica Parker "looks like a cross between Wurzel Gummidge and Bride of Chucky", while Miranda "looks badly embalmed". In the Observer, Philip French ridiculed the "bitchy heroines" who enjoy "an orgy of self-pity" and described Carrie as "equine" (horse-like, people).

In the London Evening Standard Andrew O'Hagan seethed like an Olde Worlde pontiff giving himself a hernia over the vile perfidy of Woman. "These girls are so hung up on looking great they've forgotten there are several ways to be ugly." The women are "greedy, faithless, spoiled, patronising . . . morons". Samantha is a "blonde slut" with "the desperate mentality of the School Bike", Miranda is "the ginger one", Charlotte plumbs "the depths of her own venality" and Carrie is stuck in a "wind-tunnel miasma of selfish needs. Yuck." The women behave like "materialistic whores".

So, the critics didn't like it. Neither did I. But they went one further. They used the opportunity to open their mouths and spew out a sexist torrent completely out of proportion to what they were reviewing. The spectacle of a lot of grown women together – particularly ones who are not suffering – apparently fills them, bafflingly, with contempt. The women/actresses/characters/whatever are old, ugly inside and out, bitches, lewd sluts, whores, venal, selfish, haggard, vulgar, self-pitying, neurotic "girls". These are all words from the reviews.

Those I've read by women were equally negative, but contain some basic human respect and don't stoop to insulting women's looks. Times critic Kate Muir wrote, "As subtlety and wit drain away, you feel a sense of loss . . . this sequel is not Sex and the City – it is Menopause in the Desert, and a waste of four great characters."

Given the critical bile on offer, you would think that Sex and the City 2 had been made by a convicted rapist such as Roman Polanski, a famous misogynist such as Lars Von Trier (the plot of all his films: brutalised woman suffers), featured a convicted rapist such as Mike Tyson in The Hangover or depicted women being grateful for hate-filled violent sex before being murdered, such as Michael Winterbottom's acclaimed The Killer Inside Me. Yet none of these films, even when reviewed badly, attracted any of the sizzling contempt reserved for Sex and the City.

It's jaw-dropping. Reviewers do not appear to despise a real rapist such as Polanski, but they do seem to despise four fictional women who are portraying mildly silly lives. Similar treatment was meted out, with hilarious obviousness, to the first Sex and the City film (Anthony Lane in his infamous New Yorker review: the women are "hormonal hobbits") and also to the hugely successful, women-led and, one would have thought, totally inoffensive Mamma Mia.

SATC2 is currently topping the UK box office, above Streetdance 3D, Prince of Persia, Robin Hood, Tooth Fairy, Iron Man 2, Space Chimps 2, The Losers, Bad Lieutenant and Four Lions. The Streetdance boys and girls are buff paragons of unalloyed dance ambition. Space Chimps is a searing portrayal of the effects of astral travel on primate development. The other seven films are all standard ignorant, cliched, macho, brutal, brainless, gung-ho, numb-knuckle, totally male-dominated, exhilarating toss. They feature large clubs of self-involved obsessive stupid men and their multiple male nemeses and cronies and one or two completely outnumbered women in demeaning, underscripted roles. All but one or two blockbuster films are about men – many men, sometimes all men – and are often a thousand times more venal, selfish, avaricious, consumerist, ignorant, aspirational, shallow and one-dimensional than Carrie and co. But there is no critical hate for them and their values – or their faces. That is saved for four women in one film no stupider than anything else Hollywood produces.

Yesterday I watched a comedy that seemed like the boy version of SATC2: Hot Tub Time Machine. Four forty-something guys assess their lives. One plot quirk delivers them back to their 80s youth. And there follows a deluge of overt sexism in script, characterisation, subtext and sight gags. The plot hinges partly around the indignity of a man having double-barrelled his name with his mean, lying wife's. This provokes absolute horror from his friends – being publicly associated with a woman is apparently deeply degrading. He goes back in time, finds his wife when she is nine years old, phones her and verbally abuses her. Back in the present, freshly re-masculinised and single-surnamed after his retro-corrective abuse, his wife is docile because she's been traumatised by a nasty phonecall she got when she was a kid.

The film is one big male attack on women, who are all written as lying, controlling, craven, castrating, brainless bimbo deceivers.

Hot Tub Time Machine is like a thousand other successful films, a sexist piece of trash written, produced and directed by a club of men. The guys' interests are just as small-scale, culturally myopic and selfish as those in SATC2. You'd think the critics would have the same response to these loathsome lads as to the loathsome New York ladies.

Ha! French called Hot Tub Time Machine a "lively comedy . . . an amusing homage to the genre . . . funny, sexy . . . among its pleasures is . . ." yeah, great, thanks, whatever. James White in SFX magazine said it was "disarmingly fresh and very funny". Tom Huddleston in Time Out called it "post-pub perfection". Hey, only if you don't particularly like women. But hey again, maybe I'm just being selfish and mean, just like those old, selfish, ugly, stupid, vulgar whore-bitch-neurotic slut-hags in Selfish in the Slutty.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pas on June 04, 2010, 10:28:44 AM
Haha she's so right. God critics are stupid. It's good that she calls out the pro critics who hate the movie because Carrie looks like a horse or XYZ other character is a slut. That's like saying the Godfather sucks because Michael is an evil guy and Luca Brasi is ugly.

Too bad she called BL brainless, but it's alright. great article.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Alexandro on June 04, 2010, 11:59:25 AM
no, that's the usual crap female writer response to the critics when they hate something utterly idiotic like sex and the city 2 and describe the characters just as they are.  she conveniently excludes from her quotes the way critics describe characters in the hangover or the judd appatow films. see what she's doing? quotes the critics on characters's descriptions of the sex and the city movie, excludes their opinion on the film itself, and then quotes them on the other films exclusively on what they thought on the film without quoting what they said about the characters. check it out on the original reviews, most of them are described as morons, sexist idiots.

look, hut tub machine and the hangover, etc., those films are portraying these characters but also openly MOCK their idiotic behavior. Sex and the city the films, are just a CELEBRATION of the idiotic behavior not only of women, but of the world in general. What those critics, quoted right there, are saying, is that the characters and the film's philosophy and pandering are exactly the same thing, there is no irony involved. Sex and city has evolved into a women's magazine. Please, that sex and the city reflects the rotten aspects of our consumer's society better than something like "capitalism, a love story" is not even up for question. It's an ugly picture of humanity in the 21st century right there, including the supposed female supporters who try to invalidate critics accusing them of being misogynists. The fact that it's a stinker of a film is not denied even by her.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pas on June 04, 2010, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on June 04, 2010, 11:59:25 AM
those films are portraying these characters but also openly MOCK their idiotic behavior. Sex and the city the films, are just a CELEBRATION of the idiotic behavior not only of women, but of the world in general.

Well, I mean it would be more accurate and useful to accuse to film of that celebration instead of calling Sarah Jessica Parker a horseface.

But I totally agree with you on the point you make.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cronopio 2 on June 26, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
That Guardian piece made me so angry, I think i've found myself a new internet enemy.
I haven't seen Four Lions, but i'm dead sure it's not "about standard ignorant, cliched, macho, brutal, brainless, gung-ho, numb-knuckle, totally male-dominated, exhilarating toss." Chris Morris is one of the most incisive and intelligent persons working on media in the entire world, so to dismiss the film as casually as that speaks of a profound lack of professional integrity. It might have characters with some of those traits, but it's not about them. That excuse of a writer wrote that boring sentence  because she wants the world to fit in her irrelevant and narrow journalistic point of view. The worst part of her review is that patronizing "I am able to critique with objectivity the reasons why this is not a good movie while the rest of you is just seeing it for what is is" part. At least she didn't talk about how bad the lighting was.

My main problem with her argument is that her idea of misogyny is not the same as mine. In this age, I understand misogyny as lying to a woman just to fuck her.  Or making fun of her weight when you know it's going to hurt her. Texting her "you're worthless 2 me." Hurting a woman for fun is misogynistic. Using the word 'bitch' to insult another human being. It's more or less the acceptance of the idea that the universe has given more power to the male gender, but  it is not necessary to be a man to accept that. (If you need evidence, look at how many female staff writers there are in a show like Mad Men.) Denouncing four female characters who embody some of the most erratic human behavior in contemporary western culture is clearly not misogynistic, it's just one of the rights of criticism in fiction, the ability to be unmerciful and judgmental, like our beloved Gold Trumpet does skillfully in his reviews and commentaries.  Where else are you supposed to do this? It's like people who don't dare to say Medea was out of her fucking mind flat out, so they dance around the idea by saying that she was a victim of her circumstances, blah blah blah. So what this journalist is saying is, the concept of a materialistic whore shouldn't be discussed. You're not allowed to say that Sarah Jessica Parker's face is, by some standards, ugly, in the context of a film that's all about bringing aesthetic values and beauty to the table. She's not defending anything, she's just censoring her peers for being sincere. It's as if a critic started saying other critics are anti-patriotic for calling Glenn Beck's The Overton Window a bad book. It's the same, flawed logic.

I take this topic personally because I know a lot of fucked up girls who really believe that Carrie Bradshaw is the ultimate independent woman, a truly toxic thought, like a dude taking Don Draper, Gordon Gekko, Stringer Bell or Scarface as a role model.

Alexandro also mentioned how she's only quoting out of context from other reviews. She even wrote her own remake of Hot Tub Time Machine to prove a point. That's wrong and it's lazy, and I hate seeing it, specially from women journalists who use their gender to write hard-hitting, heroic journalism, (something you don't see with in the professionalism of people like Rachel Maddow or Lara Logan). That review by Lindy West posted by P was fantastic because she talked about the movie from a perspective where she respected her integrity, femininity, and intelligence . I follow her on twitter since I read that (one of the best reviews I've read in my life) and she's very funny, the kind of person you want to hang around with, because she knows that you're allowed to be cynical about certain issues.

The main reason I hate Sex & the City is because I think it's a show that genuinely confused a lot of young people on their ideas about sexuality, marriage and possessions. The world is still recovering from a colossal economical catastrophe, so to still riff on the idea that good old capitalism has a way of making things right in the end seems disrespectful. I'm no commie, but I expect some sort of sincerity from entertainment, and I think that show and its movies expose a very evil life style.

It's funny because I saw Hot Tub Time Machine  just yesterday and I adored it. It reminded me of the VHS films you died to rent when you were a kid, and you knew you weren't supposed to be watching them, yet  you managed to see it with your friends one saturday night and laugh, followed by some porn on Cinemax. All those good things. And now that I think of it, even that movie has a character dealing with suicide and another who's being cheated by his wife and cries when he's forced to "cheat" on her. I'm not saying it's deep (you'd have to be Bidisha to think that) but those are god damned movie characters. They weren't remotely similar to a person you might meet in real life. This writer, a supposed adult, needs to learn to distinguish between reality and fiction. But she was probably one of those kids that threw themselves from the roof because she thought she could fly like Superman, and her mom threatened to sue DC comics for her daughter's imbecility.

Saying that Sex & The City is like Hot Tube Time Machine is easy, but I'd compare it with something like Mad Men. I enjoy Mad Men, but I've learned to watch for escapism and its design and glamour and all of those idillic fantasies. Everyone in that show is gorgeous. I don't like the idea of having guilty pleasures, but I think I end up lowering my dramatic standards when I watch it, although I like being surprised. It's not a the show I go to if I'm looking for advice on how to live a decent and successful life. I think the 'novelty' of watching a story about a society that's abusive towards women fades soon and you're left with pretty cardboard characters.

What was she defending anyways, when she wrote this rant?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pas on June 26, 2010, 10:42:30 PM
Maybe I don't understand clearly that article but what I got from it is that it's moronic to write a criticism of that movie to say:

Quote from: ©brad on June 04, 2010, 10:14:23 AM
Sukhdev Sandhu in the Telegraph sneered at the women for "all getting older" adding that Sarah Jessica Parker "looks like a cross between Wurzel Gummidge and Bride of Chucky", while Miranda "looks badly embalmed". In the Observer, Philip French ridiculed the "bitchy heroines" who enjoy "an orgy of self-pity" and described Carrie as "equine"

That's like saying ''Ugh, nazism was awful... and what's up with Hitler's moustache!''
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: ©brad on June 28, 2010, 09:42:43 AM
It's no wonder we have no women on this board.

Quote from: cronopio 2 on June 26, 2010, 08:32:00 PMDenouncing four female characters who embody some of the most erratic human behavior in contemporary western culture is clearly not misogynistic, it's just one of the rights of criticism in fiction, the ability to be unmerciful and judgmental, like our beloved Gold Trumpet does skillfully in his reviews and commentaries.  Where else are you supposed to do this? It's like people who don't dare to say Medea was out of her fucking mind flat out, so they dance around the idea by saying that she was a victim of her circumstances, blah blah blah. So what this journalist is saying is, the concept of a materialistic whore shouldn't be discussed. You're not allowed to say that Sarah Jessica Parker's face is, by some standards, ugly, in the context of a film that's all about bringing aesthetic values and beauty to the table. She's not defending anything, she's just censoring her peers for being sincere. It's as if a critic started saying other critics are anti-patriotic for calling Glenn Beck's The Overton Window a bad book. It's the same, flawed logic.

Uhh no, scolding Sarah Jessica Parker for looking like a horse and calling Glenn Beck's latest nonsensical drivel "a bad book" are absolutely not the same things. I agree with most of what you said, but the point of her rant was the level of vitriol spewed at these women, not even the characters but the actual actresses themselves, was mean-spirited, misogynistic, and uncalled for. No one is denying the movie wasn't awful, tone-deaf, damaging, a waste, etc. But you can make those points without cruelly making fun of 4 actresses who are indeed getting older. I don't see what calling Cynthia Nixon "badly embalmed" does in an overall criticism, besides making the critic look like a total dick.

And fucking Christ, misogyny is not lying to a woman just so you can fuck her. It's just general hatred, disgust, or fear of women and it's rampant, even around here. 

Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: socketlevel on June 28, 2010, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: ©brad on June 28, 2010, 09:42:43 AM
And fucking Christ, misogyny is not lying to a woman just so you can fuck her. It's just general hatred, disgust, or fear of women and it's rampant, even around here.  

Well i do have a general hatred, disgust and fear of women in moments. These feelings are different kinds of hatred disgust and fear of men (that i do have as well) but i do not consider myself a misogynist.  I think my point is that both have qualities that are gender based shortcomings. I think within western society, and in turn film, we've come to a point that the male characteristics have been pointed out enough that it's become commonplace to discuss and depict. If i write a deplorable female character, and i make her tragic flaws based on my perception of female shortcomings I'm labeled a misogynist. a woman writer/director doing the same thing about men's character isn't. it's applauded or considered astute.  i just saw "love burns" and Norah ephron made a career outta it.

ironically, it is often said that there are poor female characters in cinema because we don't take them as seriously as we should (meaning men writer/directors), i think the real truth is because we're not allowed to write them as they actually are (3 dimensionally flawed) without being called sexist. the very people holding back good meaty female characters are in my opinion the very people calling out for better portrayals. just because i depict a woman in a bad light doesn't mean I'm not being honest or sexist. and the moment we can do this, will be the moment there will be great flawed female heroes.

i was listening to Oliver stone's commentary for wall street about a year ago and he discussed how he got a lot of flack for his female characters.  there wasn't an outcry from men of the shortcomings of Michael Douglas or charlie sheen, who are obviously flawed themselves.  rather, people got pissed about how he depicted Darryl Hannah. and i loved his reaction on the commentary.  he said something like "hey, these are the women i saw in this world. this is what they wanted from life and how they reacted to men around them."  so as you can see he was pressured to effectively portray women not as they are, but as they 'should be depicted'.  horseshit i say.  

flaws are what make good characters, not you-go-girl attitudes and outsmarting men. sure the way it is now makes women feel good about themselves, but no great character that's influenced me to become a better man was so two dimensionally empowered and always in the right.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Alexandro on June 28, 2010, 12:03:08 PM
 :bravo:
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: ©brad on June 28, 2010, 12:14:22 PM
Quote from: socketlevel on June 28, 2010, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: ©brad on June 28, 2010, 09:42:43 AM
And fucking Christ, misogyny is not lying to a woman just so you can fuck her. It's just general hatred, disgust, or fear of women and it's rampant, even around here.  

Well i do have a general hatred, disgust and fear of women in moments. These feelings are different kinds of hatred disgust and fear of men (that i do have as well) but i do not consider myself a misogynist.  I think my point is that both have qualities that are gender based shortcomings. I think within western society, and in turn film, we've come to a point that the male characteristics have been pointed out enough that it's become commonplace to discuss and depict. If i write a deplorable female character, and i make her tragic flaws based on my perception of female shortcomings I'm labeled a misogynist. a woman writer/director doing the same thing about men's character isn't. it's applauded or considered astute.  i just saw "love burns" and Norah ephron made a career outta it.

ironically, it is often said that there are poor female characters in cinema because we don't take them as seriously as we should (meaning men writer/directors), i think the real truth is because we're not allowed to write them as they actually are (3 dimensionally flawed) without being called sexist. the very people holding back good meaty female characters are in my opinion the very people calling out for better portrayals. just because i depict a woman in a bad light doesn't mean I'm not being honest or sexist. and the moment we can do this, will be the moment there will be great flawed female heroes.

i was listening to Oliver stone's commentary for wall street about a year ago and he discussed how he got a lot of flack for his female characters.  there wasn't an outcry from men of the shortcomings of Michael Douglas or charlie sheen, who are obviously flawed themselves.  rather, people got pissed about how he depicted Darryl Hannah. and i loved his reaction on the commentary.  he said something like "hey, these are the women i saw in this world. this is what they wanted from life and how they reacted to men around them."  so as you can see he was pressured to effectively portray women not as they are, but as they 'should be depicted'.  horseshit i say.  

flaws are what make good characters, not you-go-girl attitudes and outsmarting men. sure the way it is now makes women feel good about themselves, but no great character that's influenced me to become a better man was so two dimensionally empowered and always in the right.

We can all agree that great characters should be both dimensional and flawed. That's an obvious tenant of drama. I don't care what your sex is, you can and should be able to write compelling characters for both sexes. The best writers/filmmakers are able to do this. The mediocre and bad ones aren't, and they should be criticized accordingly. And anyone who is afraid to write a character because of impending attacks from whoever is a total pussy.

Stone got shit for Wall Street because his female characters weren't dimensional in the slightest. Daryl Hannah's character has no arc whatsoever, she remains a self-proclaimed golddigger from beginning to end. Gekko's wife is even more repulsive and one-note. And let's see, there's the hooker who blows Charlie Sheen in the limo, a few bits with happy-go-lucky secretaries, and that's it. I love Stone a ton, but it's a man's universe with him.

Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Stefen on June 28, 2010, 12:20:44 PM
Pedro Almodovar is a dude and he probably writes better for women than anyone else. And he hates women.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: cronopio 2 on June 28, 2010, 01:38:53 PM
Quote from: ©brad on June 28, 2010, 09:42:43 AM



And fucking Christ, misogyny is not lying to a woman just so you can fuck her.


i don't know what else to call that behavior.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Pas on June 28, 2010, 05:40:06 PM
being horny?
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: pete on June 28, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: socketlevel on June 28, 2010, 10:50:01 AM

ironically, it is often said that there are poor female characters in cinema because we don't take them as seriously as we should (meaning men writer/directors), i think the real truth is because we're not allowed to write them as they actually are (3 dimensionally flawed) without being called sexist. the very people holding back good meaty female characters are in my opinion the very people calling out for better portrayals. just because i depict a woman in a bad light doesn't mean I'm not being honest or sexist. and the moment we can do this, will be the moment there will be great flawed female heroes.


I love it when people say that, like they just weren't allowed to write 3-dimensionality...like if it weren't for the rampant feminism that's being upheld by all them Hollywood male execs, everyone would be so three dimensional.
now, you name me one example of a female character whose depth is held back by raging feminism.

and, MORE ironically...Avatar gave us the most three dimensional female characters yet.

still, brad I think you have gone too far in defending that silly critic.  you made valid points but you also have to admit that piece was wildly knee-jerk reactionary.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: socketlevel on June 28, 2010, 09:12:15 PM
Quote from: pete on June 28, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: socketlevel on June 28, 2010, 10:50:01 AM

ironically, it is often said that there are poor female characters in cinema because we don't take them as seriously as we should (meaning men writer/directors), i think the real truth is because we're not allowed to write them as they actually are (3 dimensionally flawed) without being called sexist. the very people holding back good meaty female characters are in my opinion the very people calling out for better portrayals. just because i depict a woman in a bad light doesn't mean I'm not being honest or sexist. and the moment we can do this, will be the moment there will be great flawed female heroes.


I love it when people say that, like they just weren't allowed to write 3-dimensionality...like if it weren't for the rampant feminism that's being upheld by all them Hollywood male execs, everyone would be so three dimensional.
now, you name me one example of a female character whose depth is held back by raging feminism.

and, MORE ironically...Avatar gave us the most three dimensional female characters yet.

still, brad I think you have gone too far in defending that silly critic.  you made valid points but you also have to admit that piece was wildly knee-jerk reactionary.

you love it when "people" say this? when exactly do they say this? come on, address me and not the message board, pointing at the kid with the dunce cap on looking for support.

i think you're making a mistake when judging avatar, you're noting the best performances and not the best characters. both major female characters are never wrong and serve as teacher for the others. the protagonist is flawed (who comes to realize his flaws), the antagonist is very flawed (who doesn't come to realize anything and pays the price). the females are just right morally/ethically on every issue, no growth whatsoever. unless i forgot some major character development that i'm sure you could correct me on they're just not realistic. their actions are in the name of science or spirituality, but always with just hearts. sigorney weaver gives the best performance in the movie, and i applaud her for the shit character she was given.

I'm also not saying that there are no movies made with such characters, just look at morven caller or Julia (the Tilda swinton one). those are very troubled and flawed female characters.

i don't think execs have anything to do with it, I'll go one step further and say it's society. and it's more like being safe than raging feminism, and that safeness is the profit point for the execs whether they know it or not. i think the same thing happens to men and the majority of their characters are written with a shallow standard but think about how many times sexism comes up as a talking point, and only on one side. recently Lars Von trier was attacked. Todd solandz was attacked as well for basically all his films because he makes women just as deplorable (though different) as men.

as stated before (on a different thread i believe) i agree that almadovar makes female characters for women and that's about it. he writes women that women like, not necessarily they way they are.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: socketlevel on June 28, 2010, 09:32:34 PM
Quote from: ©brad on June 28, 2010, 12:14:22 PM
Stone got shit for Wall Street because his female characters weren't dimensional in the slightest. Daryl Hannah's character has no arc whatsoever, she remains a self-proclaimed golddigger from beginning to end. Gekko's wife is even more repulsive and one-note. And let's see, there's the hooker who blows Charlie Sheen in the limo, a few bits with happy-go-lucky secretaries, and that's it. I love Stone a ton, but it's a man's universe with him.

i'm only going based on what he said, and he referenced it in a way to suggest they thought he was being sexist. and I don't knwo first hand but if that world and type of man attracts gold grubbing bottom feeders then that's the kinda character you write.

i agree her char doesn't really have an arc.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: pete on June 28, 2010, 09:41:00 PM
my avatar comment was a joke.  because it was the most three dimensional film ever made.
nevermind.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: socketlevel on June 28, 2010, 09:44:49 PM
Quote from: pete on June 28, 2010, 09:41:00 PM
my avatar comment was a joke.  because it was the most three dimensional film ever made.
nevermind.
oh lol jokes on me, i get it now. one love.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: children with angels on August 21, 2010, 08:45:06 AM
For anyone who might be interested, I've done a big ol' in-depth analysis of The Room here: http://thelesserfeat.blogspot.com/2010/08/on-greatness-of-tommy-wiseaus-room.html. Rather than just list all the things that are 'bad' about it, I've tried to really get to grips with how it's able to repeatedly bring me so much pleasure, as well as talking a little bit about the nature of 'unintentional' brilliance.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: HeywoodRFloyd on August 29, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
Ps: Worst film I've seen in August 2012, or even 2012 altogether:

Cosmopolis.

And I'm a Cronenberg fan..
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 30, 2012, 12:58:34 AM
Quote from: HeywoodRFloyd on August 29, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
Ps: Worst film I've seen in August 2012, or even 2012 altogether:

Cosmopolis.

And I'm a Cronenberg fan..


Yeah, I didn't like it either. But Pattinson's performance was actually decent... for once. 

Worst I've seen this month has to be a tie between: Super Mario Bros (1993) and  Revenge of the Nerds 2 (1987)


I loved the first revenge of the nerds so I gave part 2 a try.... What a disgrace  :elitist:

And that Super Mario movie still hunts my dreams... I think my childhood is now ruined by how AWFUL that movie was. Big contender for worst movie of all time.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: HeywoodRFloyd on August 30, 2012, 02:04:42 AM
Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 30, 2012, 12:58:34 AM
Quote from: HeywoodRFloyd on August 29, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
Ps: Worst film I've seen in August 2012, or even 2012 altogether:

Cosmopolis.

And I'm a Cronenberg fan..


Yeah, I didn't like it either. But Pattinson's performance was actually decent... for once.

I couldn't disagree more, I'm not a hater of Pattison, but his performance in Cosmopolis was terrible. I don't know who to blame though, him or Cronenberg, the whole film was mishandled. Worst movie of the year. Plus the cinematography looked like that of a TV show, which definitely did NOT help. Any person who says 'You just didn't understand the film' can go get fucked. Look at me ranting just by thinking about it, I don't rant much, that's saying something.

Also Leos Carax's Holy Motors comes a close second to being the worst. When the film finished at the Festival, Everyone started applauding, I did not dare move my hands, I felt like Carax should have been applauding me for sitting through that nonsense, I was first really intrigued, then worried about it not going anywhere plausible, on the last 2 minutes of the film I was ready to stand up and say 'Fuck this movie' and leave.

I hate film festival folk, when something is ambiguous for no apparent reason, they're like 'Oh this is art'. Seriously Go Fuck Yourself.

You know what topped it off when I left the theatre? When I saw this:
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If I don't see it I'm mainstream? Go fuck yourself you pretentious hipsters.

See how much I hated Holy Motors? Cosmopolis is still worse. There's a rant if there ever was one
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Ravi on August 30, 2012, 10:28:28 AM
I was at the house of a friend of my girlfriend, and they (for some unknown reason) decided to watch Breaking Wind, the parody of Twilight Breaking Dawn. Out of the four of us, one person mildly chuckled once or twice, and the others of us didn't laugh once, which is amazing, because even shitty comedies usually make me laugh a few times. It was almost impressive how it managed to completely bypass humor. I would rather watch Manos: The Hands of Fate again.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: theyarelegion on August 30, 2012, 10:50:03 AM
recent one-star affairs:

Don't Come Knocking
TED (!)
Being Flynn
Real Steel
God Bless America
Jeff, Who Lives at Home
21 Jump Street
Wassup Rockers


all dreadful movies...

Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Reel on August 30, 2012, 11:27:11 AM
worst movie this month:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fb6%2FCheerleader_Camp_dvd_cover.jpg%2F220px-Cheerleader_Camp_dvd_cover.jpg&hash=2ef56699504663878c54fdc2b19c1725e0ac1d65)

and I bought it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: matt35mm on August 30, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
Hmm, interesting, as I liked a lot of these movies, but not strongly enough to defend them. (Well, I didn't like Don't Come Knocking, but I didn't hate it either. It was a bland experience. Certainly disappointing.)

I liked Cosmopolis because it was effective in lulling me into a half-dream state that really just didn't feel like anything I had experienced before. But if you ask me to talk about the content of the film, I'd have nothing to say. The sterile, TV-like quality to the image, the sort of shitty green-screen, these all added to that experience. But I can see how easy it would be to tear a lot of holes into this thing.

I enjoyed Holy Motors, but I can see why it's aggravating to you to see it touted as high art. It's a goofy movie. Nothing more, really. We can even call it hollow, but I still found it enjoyable. I thought the jokes were funny. I agree that the ad campaign is silly, though.

I also liked God Bless America, Jeff, Who Lives at Home, and 21 Jump Street. Again, I just found them enjoyable and had no compulsion to judge them all that critically. I just wanted to giggle and they made me giggle.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: Sleepless on August 30, 2012, 12:06:26 PM
Quote from: theyarelegion on August 30, 2012, 10:50:03 AM

21 Jump Street


I saw it on a plane recently and thought it was really good. One of the better comedies of recent memory and I look forward to seeing what they do with the Lego movie. Of course, I didn't have any high expectations going in other than some good word of mouth on here.

Haven't yet seen God Bless America, but I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: polkablues on August 30, 2012, 01:37:27 PM
Theyarelegion is the first person I know of who wasn't pleasantly surprised by 21 Jump Street. Prior to it coming out, I was certain it was going to be a catastrophe, but I thought it was one of the funniest comedies in recent memory.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: RegularKarate on August 30, 2012, 05:07:32 PM
Yeah 21 Jump Street is one of the better movies this year. Definitely the best comedy.
Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: theyarelegion on August 30, 2012, 05:08:08 PM
....to explain: God Bless America was as asinine as what it was attacking—which is a shame since Goldthwait's last effort, World's Greatest Dad, was genuinely funny and really sharp. Hopefully he gets back on track with his next picture.

@polka, glad to be the first! 21 Jump Street's trailer made it looks promising but that just turned out to be one of those trailers that contains all of the best moments—it turned out to be (for me) nothing but one long overly topical, repetitive, paint-by-numbers gag. Jonah Hill playing Jonah Hill. I don't understand the universal appeal and hall pass that Channing Tatum gets either. He's so average, with no depth at all! At least Jonah's got a little spark to him. I would need to see it again (to my detriment!) to expound on this...

Title: Re: Worst Movie Ever
Post by: theyarelegion on August 30, 2012, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on August 30, 2012, 05:07:32 PM
Yeah 21 Jump Street is one of the better movies this year. Definitely the best comedy.

...it hasn't been a shining year for comedy though, has it?