The Age of Innocence

Started by Duck Sauce, February 06, 2003, 12:33:10 AM

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Duck Sauce

Just saw it, I really loved it. Scorsese has a much larger range than I had previously thought. Everything about it was so graceful, but still sad. Martin was able to show the problems and regrets that humans have, despite being filthy rich, high rank in society, well traveled or naive. I forced myself to watch this but I was really impessed. The upper class in this movie exists as though an entirely different planet from one that any other class lives on.... Well done Martin, well done.

Any thoughts?

MacGuffin

The fact that no one responded proves my point it is the most underrated Scorsese film.
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Quote from: Duck SauceJust saw it, I really loved it. Scorsese has a much larger range than I had previously thought. Everything about it was so graceful, but still sad. Martin was able to show the problems and regrets that humans have, despite being filthy rich, high rank in society, well traveled or naive. I forced myself to watch this but I was really impessed. The upper class in this movie exists as though an entirely different planet from one that any other class lives on.... Well done Martin, well done.

Any thoughts?

well said Ducky. Yes I agree, it's a very good and underrated film.

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SoNowThen

Love the flick, but one thing stood out. How could the rest of the movie look so perfect, and then there's the one shot of DDL and Winona riding in the carriage that sticks out as being a projection (front or back, I'm not sure how that works). Man, it looks fake as hell. Does this bother anybody else?
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

ono

Question for those of you familiar with both Wharton's novel and this film: I recently wrote a short story which my professor compared to the novel in his comments.  Question is, has anyone read it, and if so, what did they think, and how does the film stack up to the book?  Thanks!

Finn

I haven't read the book, but I heard that Scorsese always loved it and wanted to follow the book as closely as he could while making the movie.
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Alethia

i love this film....my friend agatha claims she was an extra in this film, but i don't know if she's telling the truth

Derek237

I just saw it yesterday. It hasn't really sunk in yet. All Scorsese movies linger with you for a while until you can't stop thinking about them and want to see them again.

Alethia

i always feel really tired after a scorsese film, and it takes about a half hour before i love it

Arnzilla

Quote from: SoNowThenLove the flick, but one thing stood out. How could the rest of the movie look so perfect, and then there's the one shot of DDL and Winona riding in the carriage that sticks out as being a projection (front or back, I'm not sure how that works). Man, it looks fake as hell. Does this bother anybody else?

You must be referring to this shot because it's the only shot of them in an open moving carriage. But I doubt it's a process shot because I've seen pics of Scorsese on location with the two actors for this particular scene.

Quote from: OnomatopoeiaQuestion for those of you familiar with both Wharton's novel and this film: I recently wrote a short story which my professor compared to the novel in his comments.  Question is, has anyone read it, and if so, what did they think, and how does the film stack up to the book?  Thanks!
The book has a few more characters, most notably Ellen's aunt (who's mentioned in voiceover during the honeymoon sequence),  but it follows the novel fairly closely. The biggest difference, I think, is the fact that Ryder more physically resembles Wharton's Ellen and Pfeiffer is more like May. I think Scorsese's casting makes May more sympathetic which, in turn, makes the story compelling in a different way.

SoNowThen

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Quote from: SoNowThenLove the flick, but one thing stood out. How could the rest of the movie look so perfect, and then there's the one shot of DDL and Winona riding in the carriage that sticks out as being a projection (front or back, I'm not sure how that works). Man, it looks fake as hell. Does this bother anybody else?

You must be referring to this shot because it's the only shot of them in an open moving carriage. But I doubt it's a process shot because I've seen pics of Scorsese on location with the two actors for this particular scene.

Cool, I've been waiting for someone to respond to this for months. Thanks.

It is that shot, but on my dvd copy it seems to have a bit of a purple glow to it (to match the next wide shot -- the beautiful one framed with the lantern light). Even when I watched it again, both my friend and I picked that shot out as looking bogus, even though in the pic you posted, it seems fine...

hmmm, the mystery continues...
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

SHAFTR

Age of Innocence is a movie that I didn't particularly like, but it made me respect Scorsese more as a film maker.  The film is made very well, top notch...it's just wasn't something that interests me.  The period, story, etc just isn't my thing.  Besides that, I felt it was an excellent film.  Some of Scorsese's best shots in his career may be in this film.  Also, I watched the Magnificent Ambersons after watching this and I saw a lot of similiarities between their ballroom scenes.
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