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lately, i can't stop listening to this shit

i need some help adding to my collection...

please add to the list of recomendations....once you add tomy list i will amazon 30sec. sample this stuff and if i purchase the cd i willl post back and give ya'll mad props.......thanks


wilco: being there, agib, yankeehotelfoxtrot
loose fur
jim o rourke: eureka, insignificance
bonnie prince billy/palace: viva last blues, i see adarkness, superwolf [just purchased and will review soon for those interested]
ryan adams: heartbreaker, cold roses
whisketown: faithless street, stranger's almanac
jerry garcia, david grisham, tony rice: the pizza tapes
sufjan stevens: illinois[ just purchased from ya'll recomendation]

***i plan on getting holopaw's: quit and/or fight?******


so, thats the shit i got....if ya'll know some good bluegrass stuff like garcia/ghrisham..suggest soem things...


as for what i got.......my top 3 are cold roses, yankeehotelfoxtrot, and insignificance.........

please hook a brotha up.........
show me what you know.......

i like that type of shit when you're half -drunk listening to thsi stuff out on the deck at nigth feelign despressed...

Good list so far...

Off the top of my head (more to come later):

Minibar - Fly Below the Radar
Pete Yorn - musicforthemorningafter
Wayne - Music on Plastic
Willis - Rivers & Ditches

Billy Bragg- Mermaid Avenue


I don't know if it counts, but it came to mind.

Quote from: NEON MERCURY***i plan on getting holopaw's: quit and/or fight?******

I plan on getting that album too (along with their first album), very soon.

Quote from: NEON MERCURYso, thats the shit i got....if ya'll know some good bluegrass stuff like garcia/ghrisham..suggest soem things...

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David Grisman & Tony Rice - Tone Poems (1994)
Grisman (mandolin) and Rice (guitar) perform a number of instrumental bluegrass pieces with just the two instruments.  Wonderfully beautiful stuff.  They did a series of these "Tone Poems" releases, but I'm only familiar with their first one.
Favorite Tracks: "Turn of the Century"; "Swing '42"; "Song for Two Pamelas" (but really, there's not a bad track)


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Bad Livers - Delusions of Banjer[/b] (1992)
I love this album.  It's not traditional bluegrass like Grisman & Rice tend to be...it is more like alt-bluegrass with a tuba and a sense of humor.  It's not depressing, so if you're intent on being half-drunk/depressed, maybe you should get drunk listening to Delusions of Banjer and then stick in Heartbreaker or some shit and contemplate depression and heartache.  Otherwise, just have a good time.
Favorite Tracks: "Uncle Lucius"; "Shit Creek"; "Crow Black Chicken"; "Precious Time"

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Bad Livers - Industry & Thrift[/b] (1998)
The Bad Livers are not always easy to classify because they do all kinds of stuff in each song, but it is always rooted in bluegrass thanks to the banjo.  There's even some slower tempo, depressing songs ("Captain, Oh Captain").  But the record for the most part is fun to listen to, although not as straightforward as Delusions tends to be.
Favorite Tracks: "Lumpy, Beanpole and Dirt"; "I'm Convicted"; "Captain, Oh Captain"

man.... :yabbse-grin: ...thanks for the recs.
i copied all that good shit down..and i will sample accordingly...

Quote from: polkablues
Pete Yorn - musicforthemorningafter

I'm a big fan of this album.  His followup wasn't nearly as good...but musicforthemorningafter really sounds like the title name.

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Pete Yorn - musicforthemorningafter

I'm a big fan of this album.  His followup wasn't nearly as good...but musicforthemorningafter really sounds like the title name.

It's been said that you have your whole life to write your first album, and about eight months to write your second.  Pete Yorn demonstrated that.  Still, I'll buy whatever the dude puts out there.

And Neon... just add on as much Ryan Adams as you can.  "Love is Hell", "Rock N Roll", "Demolition" (you can take or leave "Gold").  Ryan Adams is a good thing.

i don't think pete yorn really fits into the catagory you're looking for neon, but maybe that is just me

and here are some recs...

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little wings- light green leaves

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magnolia electric co- what comes after the blues

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okkervil river- black sheep boy

David Garza.
M. Ward (strong strong strong recommendation).
gilberto gil and jorge ben.
greg brown.
northwestern and folk (or something.  they were m. ward's backup band and the drummer was the chick from the decemberist)
devotchka
india arie acoustic soul?
I dunno.
David Garza.

me? (http://www.myspace.com/11361780)

I reinforce Pete's selection of M. Ward.

The Jayhawks.  Check out Tomorrow the Green Grass, Hollywood Town Hall, Sound of Lies...I love the later albums not mentioned too but many fans prefer the earlier records.

The Scud Mountain Boys, look for the album Massachusetts.  Joe Pernice went on from that band and formed The Pernice Brothers with his brother.  All their albums are great to me, I don't see any reason to start with one or another but the latest is one of my favorites of this year.  It's called Discover a Lovelier You.  

I really like My Morning Jacket, I've only heard their album It Still Moves.  The singer has a super classic country high and lonesome voice.

Calexico "Feast of Wire"

Daniel Lanois album Shine is amazing.  Lots of slide guitar and atmosphere.  The song with Bono annoys me but the rest of it has really stayed with me for a long time now.

Aimee Mann's latest The Forgotten Arm approaches alt-country.

Super Furry Animals album Phantom Power is an amalgam of modern brit/psych-pop but also has a cohesive alt-country feel to most of the album.  I love this band and can't wait for the new one out soon.

More consistently great artists: Gillian Welch, Neko Case, Clem Snide, Uncle Tupelo, Sun Volt, Old 97's, Joe Henry, Autumn Defense, and anything to do with Gram Parsons "the father of country-rock".    

On Sundays 11a-1p Indie 103.1 in LA has a great program called Watusi Rodeo that I really enjoy.  You can listen online too.  www.indie1031.fm

Other online listening channels, some more alt-country than others:
http://www.kcuvradio.com/
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/
http://publicbroadcast.net/wncw/ppr/index.shtml
http://www.kexp.org/
http://www.woxy.com/ (not known especially for alt-country programming but great broad spectrum indie station nontheless)

If anyone else knows of any other good americana/alt-country online streams, I'd be interested.  I had one a year or so ago I liked and I can't find it in my bookmarks.  I think it was out of Colorado but that's all I can remember.

Townes Van Zandt. And, as recommended one post up, Gram Parsons.

yes, i really like alt-country.  that is all.

I would recommend a band called The Fruit Bats. They just came out with a new album but I recommend their 2003 release Mouthfuls (Sub-Pop). On mouthfuls, it features a boy-girl vocal duo which I enjoy very much. This is more like a folk-pop or something like that. I dunno. Check it out.

Also, Lucero's first album is good.  Self-titled.

Quote from: polkabluesGood list so far...

Off the top of my head (more to come later):

Minibar - Fly Below the Radar
Pete Yorn - musicforthemorningafter
Wayne - Music on Plastic
Willis - Rivers & Ditches

thanks agian for your suggestions....
comments:
all of these were good bands but they were too electric for what i am looking for...but i reall yliked the pete yorn album..thats a good one regardless of my genre of preference....

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i loved this one...thanks....thats more my style....

i'll get life_boys suggestions next.....please keep 'em coming..

I haven't plugged my friends' band in a long time, and this is a good thread to do so. Their website is pretty sparse, but there are a few tracks from their first album available:

The Theater Fire (http://www.theaterfire.com)

All of their downloadable tracks are good. I think I like Ne'er Too Late the most.

I'd add some Summerteeth from Wilco to this ever-growing list. Its poppy and catchy and there are some wonderful tunes on this album. I don't know if i'd consider it alt-country because i don't know who fits in this category anymore, its almost like calling something "punk" or "emo", the titles don't always fit the band or its music.
I still read no depression occasionally?
I really hate ryan adams and whiskeytown is boring

Quote from: squintsI'd add some Summerteeth from Wilco to this ever-growing list. Its poppy and catchy and there are some wonderful tunes on this album. I don't know if i'd consider it alt-country because i don't know who fits in this category anymore.....

Regardless, I think NEON should definately check out Summerteeth if he hasn't already (it's Wilco's best album, in my opinion).  I wouldn't call it alt-country.  That's what A.M.'s for.

neon didn't like it.

Quote from: NEON MERCURYi use to own summeer teeth.  and its kind of cheesy.  and too poppy.  all the songs sound alike.  if you like the rembrants(i'll be there for you song) then you will love summer teeth.

Neon ≠ best friend

absolutely everything by iron and wine is amazing.

might want to start with creek drank the cradle.

edit: try checking out the notwist. they're not really all that folky, but they have some a great mellow sound on Neon Golden that fits well with wilco and sufjan on mixes.

Steve Earle?

Any Neko Case fans out there?

The live album is great! and Blacklisted has so many good songs it's hard to choose which to play first.

Quote from: ABKman18Any Neko Case fans out there?

so far only when she's in New Pornographers.  i haven't heard any of her actual solo stuff but i've been meaning to seek some out recently.

would iron & wine or sufjan stevens fit into this category? i mean i don't really know what it is? someone give me a definition, stat.

okay....so, i amazoned soemmore of you guys suggestions and heres my opinions:

polkablues-
i did get love is hell...and i fucking love it...thanks...as for gold and rock'n roll...its  :yabbse-undecided: ..to rock oriented for me....

meatwad-
i liked magnolia electric co....but okkervil river is to rock fo rme...and for some reason i couldnt get samples of little wings....

pete-
sadly, i wasnt a fan of any of your choices...but i really thougth your music was great...put a cd out and i will buy it.. :yabbse-thumbup:

oh, cecilia [im begging you please]...sorry-
calexico was to eclectic for mt tastes...i already have soem good uncle tupelo...i really liked autumn defense..that was some good chillout shit...ii think that the joe henry cd "tiny voices?" that you suggested is incredible..i purchased that...and i purchased a flying burrito brothers cd...thanks...

reformed wierdo-
i did purchased the new er fruit bats cd  but i wish i didnt'...its the one time those samples on amazon were misleading....and the other fruit bats was... :yabbse-undecided: ...but thanks anyway......

life_boy-
i like tone poems but..i want soemthign more "louder"...the bad livers was a great suggestion...thanks.....

Quote from: life_boyNeon ≠ best friend

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Aw, I take it back.  

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i like tone poems but..i want soemthign more "louder"...the bad livers was a great suggestion...thanks.....

Yeah, Tone Poems is pretty chilled.  I'm glad you liked Bad Livers.  Do check out Lucero, though.  I love it.  It is drunk-depressed music that can get loud but often doesn't.  But it's not always acoustic.  At least, all this goes for their first album (self-titled), I can't vouch for their more recent stuff.  There's so many great songs on that first record.  I didn't like it much when I was first introduced to it, but it has grown on me a lot.  I can't believe I left it off my initial list.

I can't believe I forgot this one... NEON, this will be exactly the sort of thing you were looking for: Grant Lee Phillips' "Ladies' Love Oracle".

okay, i have taken alot of you guys suggestions and heres what my entire "alt-country-esque" collection looks like.  i still havent gotten through all the suggestions yet, but i will.  i want to say thanks for helping me out.  you guys have good tastes.  also, after looking at my collection if there is something missing that needs mentioning, please speak up.  thanks.  

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-jerry garcia acoustic band///almost acoustic
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-jerry garcia, david grisman, and tony rice///the pizza tapes
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-whiskeytown///faithless street
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-ryan adams///heartbreaker
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-ryan adams///cold roses
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-ryan adams///love is hell
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-uncle tupelo///bootleg[basically it has close to 40 songs fucking live.  its almost like a box set covering everything they did, but live]
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-the flying burrito brothers///sin city: the very best of the flying burrito brothers
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-bob dylan///nashville skyline
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-wilco///being there
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-wilco///yankee hotel foxtrot
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-wilco///a ghost is born
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-golden smog///down by the old mainstream
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-palace///viva last blues
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-iron and wine///our endless numbered days
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-loose fur///
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-my morning jacket///it still moves
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-songs: ohia///magnolia electric co
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-magnolia electric co///what comes after the blues
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-jim o rourke///eureka
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-holopaw///quit +/or fight

Whiskeytown's best album is "Pneumonia".  If you liked their others, definitely give that one a try.

actually the common thought is that Strangers Almanac is best but I think Pneumonia is my favorite too.  also: i'm just now listening to the first song on the new Ryan Adams "A Kiss Before I Go" and GODDAMN is that country.  like, serious Gram Parsons.  

NEON, try these...

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Sacred Hearts and Fallen Angels: The Gram Parsons Anthology

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Sweetheart of the Rodeo: The Byrds

so would you recommend Bonnie Prince Billy to me?  cause i've heard of him a bit but never heard him before and i could use some more alt-country.

Fuck ryan adams. But will oldham is pretty good, i enjoyed the cd I See a Darkness, especially the first track "Minor Place" and a few other melodies that caught me off guard with greatness throughout the rest of the cd. The bonnie billie & matt sweeney cd Superwolf has become a favorite of mine though, the electric guitar adds something that i felt was missing from i see a darkness....will oldham's voice is sort of an aquired taste but i found it really easy to warm up to, in much the same way i warmed up to Devendra Banhart's wacky vocals...i'd recommend either of those cds

great avatar, squints.

i agree with the music advice, too.

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so would you recommend Bonnie Prince Billy to me?  cause i've heard of him a bit but never heard him before and i could use some more alt-country.

i would be glad to recomend some BPB to you.  

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palace music///viva last blues
this was the first will oldham/bonnie prince billy/palce[music/brothers](its all the same...just different monikers) but i will  warn you his voice is very...um, odd at times.  it cracks and there are alot of highs. he sounds like he is going through puberty.  and at times he sounds completely drunk.  but the beautiful thing is that when you hear it-it all fits in well w/ the music.  but if you can listen to conner oberst and be able to stand his voice, then this should be easy :yabbse-grin:  .....favorite track: the brute choir...if you like this song then buy the album  

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bonnie "prince" billy///i see a darkness
i think this one is his most accessible album.  its sung very well and i do like all the songs w/o  skipping or feeling bored.  this album is dark though.  it has a very depressed vibe about it.  like lou reed's "berlin".
favorite track: nomadic revery [all around]...but the song "black" is beautiful also...

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bonnie prince billy and matthew sweeny///superwolf
even though sweeny's name is on the cover, its still all oldham.  as squints mentioned this one is more electric.  its very good.  and my reconendationm depends on how you feel about mostly electric rather than acoustic.  but its solid stuff-ask pitchforkmedia :yabbse-wink:

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bonnie "prince" billy///sings greatest palace music
thsi is a cool one.  basically, its a greatest hits of oldham picked by the fans.  and its all good shit.  the difference is that its got more of a gloss country feel to the songs and they are very different takes on the tunes.
even oldham sings much better.  i like this one.  


this is all i know so far.
let me know if pick one up.

More suggestions for you NEON:

Iron & Wine - The Creek Drank the Cradle (2002)
I love this album and actually prefer it (at this time) to Our Endless Numbered Days.  Beautiful, intimate songs.  I strongly recommend after noticing it missing from your collection.

Smog - A River Ain't Too Much to Love (2005)
I'm surprised meatwad didn't mention this one after having it on his favorite albums of 2005 (so far).  There's some nice stuff on this record.  "Say Valley Maker" is a favorite.

Hayden - Skyscraper National Park[/u] (2002)
I haven't heard this whole album, only a handful of songs...but I look forward to purchasing it.  I really enjoy what I've heard so far.  I've heard Elk Lake Serenade is good also.

Crooked Fingers - Dignity and Shame (2005)
I'm not sure how I feel about this album yet.  You might like it, however.  Find some samples.

Califone - Heron King Blues (2004)
A decent album that plays some with electronica.  I was disappointed by it, honestly.  But, thought I'd throw it out there.  I haven't heard any of Califone's earlier stuff.

Quote from: life_boySmog - A River Ain't Too Much to Love (2005)
I'm surprised meatwad didn't mention this one after having it on his favorite albums of 2005 (so far)

well, the things that we being suggested to neon in the beginning of this thread was stuff very much unlike smog. this thread has since turned into suggestions a little more out of the "alt-country" box

but yes, i'm suggesting it now. it's a great album

ahh, after some time has passed since first starting this thread...i would like to say thanks for all who have open my mind and pimped me some new shit that i ain't heard before...even if i havent specifically listened to some of the bands mentioned by you guys-i still thank you for the suggestions....i'll get around to it....so, please keep 'em coming!!!!

but  to show my love for ya'll, i'll name drop a few praises...

meatwad:
i owe you a big thanks for getting me into magnolia electric co/songs: ohia...i still play the hell out of this shit..i think "ring the bell" is gorgeous....thank you :bravo:

regular karate:...you were always talking about about okkervil river "black sheep boy"...and i think meatwad pimped it too...but you were always singing their praises..at first i wasnt a fan but now..i'm hooked...the lead singer has one of the most unique voices i've heard...my favorite song on "black sheep boy"..is the one thats next to the last song...good shit..thanks.. :bravo:

polka:  i think it was you who suggested "love is hell" and "pneumonia"...both are quite excellent...fucking "jacksonville skyline".........!!!!!!!!thanks.. :bravo:

pete:...i am going to give m.ward another chance... :yabbse-grin:

cecilia:  i owe you big time:
1.) calexico:  instant fan now...feast of wire is unfuckingbelievable!!!...love sunken waltz and quatros [world drifts away?]...they got a new album coming soon...the rest of xixax should check it out....
2.)  my morning jacket:  love jim's voice...i think its still moves is their best..."one big holiday"......
3.) scud mountain boys:  i picked up the 2 disc pinebox and dance the night away...its really intimate and dark...joe pernice has an incredible voice...
4.)  gilliam welch and david rawlings:  just picked up a boot...digging it so far :bravo:

modage/cecilia:  gram parsons i am stil lin the begining phase...but i like what i've heard...but i am all over the burrito bros... :bravo:

xidentity crisis:  iron and wine......thank you :bravo:


now.......i'll give you guys  heads up on one of my new alt-country faves:

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pinetop seven

i just recently got into them...this is going to sound sort of wierd but they remind me of if tool was an alt-countryt band they would sound like pinetop seven..i mean that in the way they play intricate, dark, brooding, music...and the singer has an unbeleivable range...like maynard...

I skimmed through this thread, so if any of these are repeats, I apologize.

Band of Horses - Everything All the Time
Black Rebel Motocycle Club - Howl
Califone - Quicksand and Cradlesnakes
Califone - Roomsound
Holopaw - Holopaw
M. Ward - Transfiguration of Vincent
Okkervil River - Don't Fall in Love with Everyone You See
Son Volt - Trace
Songs Ohia - Didn't It Rain
Songs Ohia - The Magnolia Electric Co.
Wilco - Being There

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Quote from: ABKman18Any Neko Case fans out there?

so far only when she's in New Pornographers.  i haven't heard any of her actual solo stuff but i've been meaning to seek some out recently.

She's got a new one out now.  Her last one was pretty amazing, so I thought I'd check it out.  Saw her in concert a few years ago.  It was good times.