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Why is this guy not on the director's list?  He and writer Charlie Kauffman are geniuses.

Quote from: TeddyWhy is this guy not on the director's list?  He and writer Charlie Kauffman are geniuses.

That's tricky territory... too subjective. There would be too many "geniuses" to satisfy everyone, so I think they've built a sort of blah but stable consensus. I'm not happy with it, but we can talk about whoever we want in "The Director's Chair," so it's not really that restrictive. We can stick up for the real geniuses, here.

So what do you guys think of Jonze's two masterpices?  Do you prefer BEING JOHN MALKOVICH or ADAPTATION?  They are both so great.

Quote from: TeddySo what do you guys think of Jonze's two masterpices?  Do you prefer BEING JOHN MALKOVICH or ADAPTATION?  They are both so great.

I turning the thread into a poll. Hope you don't mind.

Quote from: MacGuffinI turning the thread into a poll. Hope you don't mind.

No, I don't mind at all.  I was actually beginning to wish I had started it as a poll in the first place.

At any rate, my pick is ADAPTATION.  It's darker and in the end it rings more emotionally true than MALKOVICH.

I also voted for Adaptation, although BJM is also great.

i voted for being

malcovich. looks better, has more replay value, and is a lot wierder, though i love adaptation.

yea, but i dont think enough credit is given to spike. i mean you could have the best script in the world- a shitty director can mess it up real good. on the contrary, a good director can take a mediocre script and make a good movie. (8 Mile) So, uhhh.... hrm.... lost my train of thought... don't know where to go from here... ahh....uhhh....fuck it.

Quote from: cbrad4dyea, but i dont think enough credit is given to spike. i mean you could have the best script in the world- a shitty director can mess it up real good. on the contrary, a good director can take a mediocre script and make a good movie. (8 Mile) So, uhhh.... hrm.... lost my train of thought... don't know where to go from here... ahh....uhhh....fuck it.

I could be wrong, but I believe you were about to bring up the fact that Anthony Hopkins lost out the lead role of Adaptation to Nicolas Cage.

Gotta go with his "Praise You" dance crew doc. Love it.

Just reinstated the tie- had to go with Being John. I absolutely loved Adaptation on first viewing - the subject matter is one I just lap up (as a writer attempting to deal with similar themes), but on a second viewing I actually found myself getting rather bored for most of the time Streep was onscreen. Loved Cage's parts, not so much the rest.

BJM on the other hand I was disappointed with at first, but the more I watched it the better it got. I think there's more of a simbiosis of writer and director on that film. None of it bores me at all. The third act - much criticised - I originally disliked, but came to love: the sadness of it, the goddamn tragedy of it. The final image is so beautiful, so understated, so sad. I actually think it's a much darker film: there's really no hope at the end, whereas Adaptation's conclusion is all about the hope. Also the final shot of Adapatation reminds me too much of The Player.

As much as Id love to see Kauffman-Jonze movie every year, I am equally curious to see Jonze direct something not from him just to see where he stands

The video for "Buddy Holly" is the most genius thing Spike Jonze has done.

Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeThe video for "Buddy Holly" is the most genius thing Spike Jonze has done.

no, sabotage

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Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeThe video for "Buddy Holly" is the most genius thing Spike Jonze has done.

no, sabotage

Sabotage is better, thats a fact

Listen all of y'all, it's a sabotage

C'mon guys. BJM wasn't that that great, was it? Well, not compared to Adaptation anyway, which wasn't far off from being the best film of 2002. Anyway, I just felt like BJM was trying to be weird, whereas Adapaptation was just naturally brilliant.

i dunno. i just finally re-watched ADAPTATION tonite, as i never got a chance to go see it a second time in the theatres as planned with the onslaught of december movies.  it does seem like a more brilliant screenplay/movie for sure, but there is still a special place in my heart for BEING JOHN MALKOVICH and the surprise i got seeing that in the theatre.  whereas, this i was (pretty much) fully prepared for knowing what it was about and the parties involved. i also kind of feel like ADAPTATION isnt something i will want to put on as often as i have watched BJM.  just a preferencee perhaps, but oh well.

broke the tie, go BJM!

i've seen it more times than adaptation, and i make reference to it more.

"hey malkovich, think fast!" haha.

Quote from: P™broke the tie, go BJM!

i've seen it more times than adaptation, and i make reference to it more.

"hey malkovich, think fast!" haha.

I have a big problem with that scene. Malkovich was wearing a hat, and some guy was driving 60 MPH on the high way with his beer can prepared. There's also the fact that Malkovich himself isn't that famous so I doubt a hillbilly would recognize him. That scene is way too fake, but the rest of the movie worked for me.

ADAPTATION hits home for me in a way that only RUSHMORE has done.  Watching CHarlie Kaufman and listening to his narration is like having a conversation with myself.  He's so like me, like perfectly.  Also, I fucking love John Laroche.  Such a great fucking character.

I love BJM too though.  I don't know, when I watch BJM it's like the writing is so fucking clever that that's the showcase of the movie, especially early in the film.  It's almost like you can see Charlie Kaufman as you watch the film, saying, "You like that, wait till you see what happens next."  It just kinda gets on my nerves, but other than that BJM is great too.

Quote from: mag i owand it adds more salt in malkovich's wound so to speak.

zactly.

it's hilarious that after gettin all mad at schwartz like "it's my head!" that sum dude would just drive past and throw shit at him, like the situation wasn't effed up enuff. haha, one of the best scenes for sure.

The more I watch and think about the films of Spike Jonze, I can't help but how amatuer they all are and how they exist for the attention of Charlie Kaufman capabilities than Spike Jonzes'. First off, the screenplays in both seem to stand around an idea that seems to be an ingenious idea or whatever and that stands in a weird circumstance to try to color it original of some sort. I'm not going to argue for originality, and especially not in Adaptation that has found acclaim in ideas ripped off from 8 1/2, though 8 1/2 is of genius. Both movies seem to be standing on the idea though that they can pass for supposed originality and in that, there are countless number of scenes of standing around and talking like the greatest idea has been conveyed. Its amatuer hour and nothing really is forwarded by way of plot to go into the unique or fulfilling of anything. Its ideas for short films trying to pass as feature length ones. I will say Adaptation is the better of the two because it does try to forward its idea somewhat into a story that can better show the ideas but the countless scenes of obviousness in talking about the greatness of general art against commercial films is numbing and just dumb. Its general words that have as much value as a fifteen year old kid saying pearl harbor sucked.

~rougerum

Were you in any way entertained by these movies, GT?

I'd have to say that although I was certainly entertained by both films, I ultimately must agree with GT on this subject. I remember when I first heard about my favorite music video director's plans to make a movie that was going to push boundaries and be hilarious. I had such high hopes for BJM but was disappointed with the results. The same was true with Adaptation, which was one of the films I had most looked forward to seeing in 2002. In conclusion: music videos = brilliant, films = unfulfilled potential. As GT stated, his tendencies towards cleverness are best suited in a shorter medium.

Sure, I could say I was entertained at moments through out these films, but i am also entertained by someone telling a good joke as well. Fulfillment for me in seeing a movie and entertainment are two different things.

~rougerum

I thought Being John Malkovich was absolutely great, but Adaptation was a little dissapointing. The whole thrid act joke was very lame. And as I watched it the second time on dvd it got a lil worse for me.

I think they are both two amazing films. I choose Adaptation just because I was more blown away by it when I first saw it. I'll admit that they are both extremely plot driven films, so the amazing story plays a big part in their apeal, but they're not exactly easily make-able films. I mean, look at all the puppet stuff in BJM. I mean, its one thing for Kaufmann to write about a ballet with the main dancer being a puppet, but to actually make it happen and make it look cool takes one hell of a director.

Quote from: The Gold TrumpetBoth movies seem to be standing on the idea though that they can pass for supposed originality and in that, there are countless number of scenes of standing around and talking like the greatest idea has been conveyed.

A.  Was that English?

B.  Before you saw Being John Malkovich, you had never seen anything like it.

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Quote from: The Gold TrumpetBoth movies seem to be standing on the idea though that they can pass for supposed originality and in that, there are countless number of scenes of standing around and talking like the greatest idea has been conveyed.

A.  Was that English?

Not as bad as this little gem:

Quote from: The Gold TrumpetMovies exist outside this realism and when trying to go for realism, it better captures its own realism though other forms of realism like heightened or mellowed realism.

I think he's talking about realism, or something.

hah, never said I could write good.

But for my attempt to better explain myself:

1.)Both movies start and seem to end only on the conceptions for the film. The conceptions are never forwarded to anything that is fulfilling and what we get in the films is characters standing around and talking like they are apart of the greatest idea ever for any movie. Drama seems lacking because the stories never get past its own gimmick nature.

2.)Full realism, like the life of a day for any of us, can never be realized in cinema. Cinema does though have its own realism and that realism seems like a realism in responce to a highly cliche or standard story that comes closer to making the story more real or interesting. Instead of movies trying to go for real life interesting, they should go for the more interesting reality that only movies can bring.

~rougerum

I would say that Being John Malcovich develops a great deal from its original "clever" concept into something really very tragic and touching in the final images. The young girl swimming underwater, John Cusak's character pleading desperately, impotently from within her: who could've predicted that from the starting fun/surrealistic comedy beginnings of the movie? Whether you find it fulfilling is entirely subjective, but I certainly think it goes beyond simply being a clever idea, and turns into a very touching one.

Quote from: The Gold TrumpetInstead of movies trying to go for real life interesting, they should go for the more interesting reality that only movies can bring.

You got a pretty cut-and-dried dialectical aesthetic goin' on there. Can it always apply to every film situation?

BJM was more than a gimmick, btw, which it seems like you've taken a long time to say.  It was also an apex of filmic absurdism, IMO.  It was also wildly inventive within the confines of its own gimmick.  It was also oblique cultural critique (a humongous and brave deflation of the "ACTOR MYSTIQUE" so associated with Malkovich, not to mention an inflation of Charlie Sheen's lack of mystique [was that English?]).  It also displayed Shakespearean themes recast as psychosexual farce (the puppet play within the play, the main character as actual puppeteer and as Malko puppeteer, gender bending and gender identification [like you might find in The Bard's racy comedies]).  I could go on and on about BJM; if you're seeing just gimmick, I pity you.

Quote from: MeshBJM was more than a gimmick, btw, which it seems like you've taken a long time to say.  It was also an apex of filmic absurdism, IMO.  It was also wildly inventive within the confines of its own gimmick.  It was also oblique cultural critique (a humongous and brave deflation of the "ACTOR MYSTIQUE" so associated with Malkovich, not to mention an inflation of Charlie Sheen's lack of mystique [was that English?]).  It also displayed Shakespearean themes recast as psychosexual farce (the puppet play within the play, the main character as actual puppeteer and as Malko puppeteer, gender bending and gender identification [like you might find in The Bard's racy comedies]).  I could go on and on about BJM; if you're seeing just gimmick, I pity you.

Good stuff about BEING JOHN MALKOVICH.  I'd like to hear what you have to say about ADAPTAION.

Quote from: TeddyWhy is this guy not on the director's list?  He and writer Charlie Kauffman are geniuses.

Kaufman is a great writer, but in my opinion, his screenplays (that I've seen) kind of crumble in the third act.  He had trouble sustaining the Malkovich joke, and things kind of got sucked in to this black hole.  And in Adaptation., I get the irony of the switch, but I felt like it was a cop out as a result of writer's block, nothing more.  And I would have liked to see a real script; a real adaptation of The Orchid Thief.  Both movies are very entertaining, but not perfect.  There are a few others by him I want to see: Human Nature and the up and coming Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind, which looks promising.

As for Jonze, well, he hasn't done anything significant on his own to establish his place as a director.  I think he needs to work away from Kaufman to establish his own voice so we know for sure what his talents are.

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As for Jonze, well, he hasn't done anything significant on his own to establish his place as a director.  I think he needs to work away from Kaufman to establish his own voice so we know for sure what his talents are.

I kinda tend to agree with this, but begrudgingly.  Jonze (oddly enough) possesses a subtle film-directorial style; the evidence is readily apparent when one views Kaufman scripts directed by others (see Confessions of a Dangerous Mind and Human Nature).  HN especially goes goofball and "gimmicky" in a way similar to BJM, but without Jonze's sense of control and subtle absurdist tone (I'm not doing well describing Jonze's specific directorial input—help?), HN feels thrown together, over-the-top absurd, MTVish; it just doesn't quite gel.

they are both great in my book -but adaptation  edges out

Mesh,
I'm not giving any cut and dry explanation for aethesitics on film at all. My example was for something completely different in a different category.

Thing is, I understand what you mean about Being John Malkovich in saying all the things it acts for during the movie, but I really don't believe the validity of really many of them at all because they are shown in a way that just introduces the idea at best, and then moves on acting for its gimmick only. The ideas really hold any value because the movie can not find any useful way to show them in a context that seems as bringing up meaning for the rest of the film. They actually feel like just cute side bars instead. And I also think there was some over analyzitation going on in that review too.

~rougerum

Quote from: EL__SCORCHOI thought Being John Malkovich was absolutely great, but Adaptation was a little dissapointing. The whole thrid act joke was very lame.

I couldn't agree more.

I loved the voice overs by Cage's character.....they are truely great.  But the rest of the movie is far from clever... it's cliche.  Halfway through the movie I began to chant repeatedly to myself  "please don't do what I think you are going to do...please don't do what I think you are going to do"  It was a little too predictable.  Just because the film makes it obvious that it knows how cliche it is doesn't change the fact that it's still a unoriginal cop out.  

I can just imagine him pitching the script "ok..ok ...it's about this guy who is adapting a book into a script, but the book is all about plant's adaption....get it? clever huh. Well anyway, Then the script that he's writing turns into the movie that we are watching!  ya get it!  clever huh!"

Being John Malkovich [A+++] beats Adaptation [B+] hands down.

The script for the latter was indeed the work of genius, but it could never translate to screen well [half the charm was that it was a screenplay about screenwriting, and a film about screenwriting doesn't have the same in-joke effect].

It seemed to me that Jonze had no idea how to direct the film until the third act when it suddenly hit the much more familiar Being John Malkovich territory.

i love both, and although the nic cage performance is priceless, my initial reaction after seeing adaptation is that while i loved it and thought the script was brilliant, its not something that i will honestly put on as often as i would put on Being John Malkovich.

Quote from: The Silver BulletBeing John Malkovich [A+++] beats Adaptation [B+] hands down..

your recent obsession with ratings: D - - - + -

I can see how making my opinion on certain films known might piss you off...

:roll:

Spike Jonze & Charlie Kaufman Developing Horror Film
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Spike Jonze and Charlie Kaufman, the Adaptation team, are collaborating on an untitled horror film for Columbia Pictures that Kaufman is writing, with Jonze set to direct.

Details of the project are being closely guarded.

Lets just get this right out of the way now.

Oooh! Maybe it's The 3!!!

QuoteOooh! Maybe it's The 3!!!

Now that you mentioned it... at least it makes perfect sense considering what's been the Kaufman/Jonze collaboration until this point.

Malkovich...it's just more of a fun ride IMO.

I do believe Spike made the best video clips from this last decade but when i watch BJM and (mostly) Adaptation , the only thing i can see is how increduble KAufmann is....these two movies are all about the screenwriting! Spike it is great...but i wish i could see one movie from him without Kaufmann writing the script.

Cheers to the Kauffman nod.  I think the man's absolutely brilliant.  Jonze wouldn't have the renown that he has w/o Kauffman's pen.  Personally I like Jonze's wife's/fiance's directing skills better.  But hey, that's just me.

Quote from: coffeebeetlePersonally I like Jonze's wife's/fiance's directing skills better.  But hey, that's just me.

I couldn't agree more. I watched Lost in Transition 2 days ago and it was a sweet surprise. She kept the writing simple and delivers a delightful movie (as Virgin Suicides)

I liked Being John Malkovich more than Adaptation, in fact i liked Adaptation too but i felt disappointed at the end...
but talking about Jonez's videos, my favorite is It's Oh So Quiet from Björk, great video!!

Quote from: The Silver BulletI can see how making my opinion on certain films known might piss you off...

:roll:

well, I am pissed at you!!  Haha..

I am a huge fan of this guy...he gives me this false hope that working in the skateboard/ action sports industry can lead to better thigs.  Then again, it would be nice to have the money just given to me too....that prick!

Both movies kick ass in my opinion.

i love both too, but i'm partial to adaptation.  it just grew on me so well.  and suddenly i forgot about BJM.  i'm anticipating more about that horror film collaboration.  i'll bet kauffman can write a pretty funny, fucked up horror film...

Has anybody seen the Jonze short entitled, How They Get There. I just read this review on imdb and it really makes me want to see it. I couldn't find it on Atom Films, though...



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Date: 23 May 2003
Summary: How They Get There

I saw this short on Atom Films a couple of years ago and loved it so much, it hurt. I thought it was so simple yet creative and romantic that I nearly snuffed myself out after watching it. I was in my cubicle at the time of my first viewing, at a job that was going nowhere real fast and I was shook to the bone. With each effort, Spike never disappointed and with "How They Get There," I had had enough. I thought I had ideas, I thought I had something going, but after seeing what Spike did with this film, and how effortless it seemed, I lost everything. My film, "Girls Without Fathers" bombed. People booed it. It was a thirty-minute muddy movie. I even had walk-outs. Yet Spike had it all. Every single time he hit. Whether it was with Nike's Y2K campaign, or that dog's video "Hey, Old Timer," he was always on. For months after seeing this short I couldn't come up with a single hook. I had no vision, I couldn't even come up with one lousy snippet of dialogue. I couldn't sleep and I even entertained the thought of re-creating this piece, claiming it as my own. People would love me then. I would love me then. Afterall, who had seen it? Just me, as far as I was concerned. But, I never re-created it.

That day, after watching Spike's movie, I shared my thoughts with a married woman. A woman I worked with, just two cubicles over. A woman, who as an independent filmmaker, shook up the local Tulsa, Oklahoma scene with a just-as-stunning-as-How They Get There picture entitled, "Jimmy." She was marvelous, sun-kissed, stunning as a queen bee, and tapped into tons of new ideas, ideas she wasn't afraid to share because they were perfection and because they were abundant. Ideas that the Spike's, Wes Anderson's, PT's or Roman Coppola's of the world could never tap into, never get their hands on. An original with a unique voice and vision. I loved her then, just as I love her now. I was crushed by the fact she was married, just as I was crushed by the existence of "How They Get There," so original, so cute, and so brilliant. I told her everything, how I was useless, how my life had no meaning if I couldn't come up with a single idea, how I was never going to get anywhere by living intimidated by one man's work and how I feared my life was doomed to the confinement of those pink velvet crush walls of my cubicle. She listened. And she eased my pains, temporarily, with down cotton words and I went home that day feeling like someone really looked up to me as a creative entity; I napped on the encouragement. When I woke up, I watched the movie again and again I felt saddened. My girlfriend at the time just laughed at me, as she often did, and drank herself into a vomitous fit, as she often did, and ended messing around with my roommate's best friend, who ended up being, by chance, my co-worker's husband. The next morning, I vowed to never watch, "How They Get There" ever again. And I haven't to this day.

Call it what you will, but "How They Get There" served as a catalyst to how that woman I shared my pain with that day ended up becoming my live-in girlfriend and love of my life. Thanks, Spike. Two years strong. And not only is she a dream-come-true, but she's the secret behind all my fantasy. My muse. And she's incredibly encouraging.

Wow.  That was...beautiful.

i vote for Adaptation.  the style of shots are more modern, the plot is very interesting, and i loooveee meryl streep's voice!  :lol:
how about the MVs that Spike Jonze had shot?
Bjork's "it's oh so quiet", fat boy slim's "weapon of choice"...etc
so damn original!!

Spike Jonze Knows Where the Wild Things Are
Source: Variety

Universal has hired Spike Jonze to direct the Playtone-produced adaptation of Where the Wild Things Are, the classic children's book by Maurice Sendak. Playtone's Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman will produce with John Carls and Sendak.

The Adaptation and Being John Malkovich director will helm the live-action film, which was originally developed as a CGI project.

Published in 1963, it's the story about a mischievous boy who is sent to bed without supper. In his room, Max uses his imagination to conjure up a forest populated by the wild things, exotic monsters who embrace Max as their ruler.

where does this leave his horror movie?  or rather, which project will be first?

i was thinking the other day.........how is The 3 descibed as in Adaptation?..........a thriller / horror movie, right?........if anyone would do a movie about a movie they talked about in a movie, Kaufman / Jonze would

i loved WTWTA as a kid.........i went to the library and read it today..........it's going to be interesting how they make a 90 minute film out of it.........it's also going to be hard to match the imagery of the beautiful drawings

update: someone already raised The 3 question......sorry

spike seems to be following a terry gilliam-type path (my connection being Where The Wild Things Are and Time Bandits, and they both have, at least i think, similar and unique styles)

http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=10/30/2003

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What, Maurice Sendak?

i think that when a writer writes about writing, (i.e. adaptation) he is taking an easy way out. of course you should write about what is on your mind, and if writer's block is on your mind, so be it. but not everyone in an audience is a writer, it can be hard to relate to sometimes. but i still love adaptation, especially john laroche "my wife....x-wife....bitch"

is anyone familiar with spikes work in skateboarding? i'm a skater, but i've never seen any of his skate films. i've heard mouse is good, of course

I went for being john malkovich. Adaptation is good, very good. But BJM is the better of the two in my opinion.

I had to go with Being John Malkovich, though I had a tough time choosing which one to vote for. I'll probably be booed down, but I think BJM is darker than Adaptation, mainly just because of the shots--how gritty the night shots seemed. They were both incredibly witty and smart films, though. But whoever said it is right: Adaptation probably isn't as accessible as BJM because most of today's audience wont be able to see the inside industry humor. Plus, I think BJM is just so deliciously satirical. mmm...

I love both films to death, but I like Adaptation more. It's just so mind-boggling.

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Quote from: MacGuffinI turning the thread into a poll. Hope you don't mind.

No, I don't mind at all.  I was actually beginning to wish I had started it as a poll in the first place.

At any rate, my pick is ADAPTATION.  It's darker and in the end it rings more emotionally true than MALKOVICH.

I'm sort of up in the air with them both.  As a story, "Being John..." was better.  But the fact that they did what they did.... to end up with "Adaptation" makes it almost MORE impressive.

A great movie.

Malkovich wins by an overwhelming margin.

Malkovich is great, but Adaptation hit me so hard on so many levels.  The way the story effortlessly drifts from different times and places, the acting, the style, the themes... gosh.  It's just the bee's knees.  Not to mention the fact that Cage's portrayal of Kaufman was so creepily similar to my life (I cried during his bungled romance scene when he was invited in).  After the film, my father turned to me and said, 'son, now I get what you have to go through.'

cage should have got the Oscar for Adaptation. He was brilliant. The film is much better than people say.

i found Adaptation very jewish.

hahaha
why?
i don't understand that jewish/goyish thing

well, i think that it has a very jewish point of view.... the main character is egocentric. in fact, he's so egocentric that he divided his personality in two. and all the other characters are like satellites around him... mmm

it's just the self-hatred thing. and the baldness maybe.

besides that the whole thing is about flowers, which isn't very jewish.

just broke the tie, gotta go with adaptation.  as good as they both are once you get over the quirky idea that is BJM,  it doesnt hold up to repeat viewings...  plus that girl banging Donald was HOT HOT HOT.

Spike Jonze is better at making music videos than movies. :(

For me "BJM" and "Adaptation" are nearly equal but "BJM" just had a bigger impact on me, it was the weirdest experience I've ever had, so I voted for "BJM".

BTW, Spike directed a cool documentary called "Amarillo By Morning". Really great! And his music videos for "Feel The Pain" (Dinosaur Jr.) and "If I Only Had A Brain" (MC 900ft Jesus) are underrated!

has anybody seen the new video for phantom planet he did?

i chose his short "how they get there" on "The work of director Spike Jonze" DVD, fucking genious

Quote from: El Duderinoi chose his short "how they get there" on "The work of director Spike Jonze" DVD, fucking genious

I didn't dig that short too much, it was i guess "cute" but not that big a deal. Hes a genius and has done so much great stuff. I felt how they get there was lacking. It looked nice though.

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Quote from: El Duderinoi chose his short "how they get there" on "The work of director Spike Jonze" DVD, fucking genious

I didn't dig that short too much, it was i guess "cute" but not that big a deal. Hes a genius and has done so much great stuff. I felt how they get there was lacking. It looked nice though.

i guess i kind of agree, though i was laughing really hard when i saw it last night. i thought his other short sucked, but his documentary about him and his dance group at the VMA's was great

yeah that dance group thing is great. I liked the amarillo by morning doc also cause it was so odd. Spike Jonze hanging with these cowboys. What a pairing, I think thats what makes Spike such a unique indivudual, is he is so warm that people feel comfortable around him.

i love him in the "praise you" and "rockafella skank" videos, fucking great

Quote from: El Duderinoi love him in the "praise you" and "rockafella skank" videos, fucking great

That's not Spike! That's Richard Koufey! Or is there a difference?  :-D

btw, his real name is  Adam Spiegel, from what I have heard.

Quote from: kelvinbtw, his real name is  Adam Spiegel, from what I have heard.

isn't the main character from that show cowboy bebop named Spike Spiegel?

lol! Adam Spiegal, Spike Jonze, and Richard Koufay are all the same person.

So does anyone really know what this guy's next project is? Some say it is going to be Where The Wild Things Are others say it is going to be a horror movie written by Charlie Kaufman. I really hope it is Where The Wild Things Are. Especially since he said he wanted to use Puppets instead of CGI. I think that's a brilliant idea. Plus, it would be great to see what he does with something other than a Kaufman script.

hey man, welcome to Xixax.

Info on Where The Wild Things Are (http://imdb.com/title/tt0386117/)

Hey man. Thanks. This board kicks ass!

So, Where The Wild Things Are is official then? cool! I really think this project is perfectly suited for Spike. Anyone familiar with the playful, child like vibe he has in his music videos should agree.

Quote from: LostEraserThis board kicks ass!

Just don't tell the folks about us  :twisted: !

Quote from: LostEraserAnyone familiar with the playful, child like vibe he has in his music videos should agree.

especially in "Praise You"

Quote from: El Duderino

Quote from: LostEraserAnyone familiar with the playful, child like vibe he has in his music videos should agree.

especially in "Praise You"

Exactly. Probably my favorite music video of all time. But also in Weapon Of Choice, It's Oh So Quiet, and that Chemical Brothers one starring Sofia... Oh hell, all of them! lol! You really see how much of an auter he is in his music videos, whereas his two films are more Charlie's things. That's why it's going to be great to see what he does with Wild Things.

Quote from: LostEraser

Quote from: El Duderino

Quote from: LostEraserAnyone familiar with the playful, child like vibe he has in his music videos should agree.

especially in "Praise You"

Exactly. Probably my favorite music video of all time. But also in Weapon Of Choice, It's Oh So Quiet, and that Chemical Brothers one starring Sofia... Oh hell, all of them! lol! You really see how much of an auter he is in his music videos, whereas his two films are more Charlie's things. That's why it's going to be great to see what he does with Wild Things.

agreed.

anyone knows where can i see the All About the Benjamins Rock Remix video he did ?   i wish there was a site like that michel gondry site that has all of his stuff .

Quote from: LostEraserlol! Adam Spiegal, Spike Jonze, and Richard Koufay are all the same person.

who is that person?  
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you guessed it! FRANK STALLONE

apologies for the lateness of the joke and the norm macdonald reference.

Spike Jonze has launched a series of diary-style video interviews through online-broadcast network VBS.TV. The series will capture Jonze interviewing and traveling the world with various artists and entertainers, including the premiere guest, M.I.A. The set kicks off this week with a six-part episode that follows Jonze and M.I.A. around London and at the singer's various enclaves. An interview with Kanye West is scheduled to go live next week.

http://www.vbs.tv/player.php?bctid=1137833099

god, really who gives a shit about that when he and drew barrymore were seen on a romantic stroll together and dining at the ivy yesterday??

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omgz!!!! discuss...

either that's not him or it's old or the M.I.A. stuff is old OR it's all true and recent and he turned into jeff daniels overnight.

the clip revealed:

-spike got mugged/beat up in greenwich
-he doesn't know what ketamine is or was confused by her pronunciation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/09/16/2009-09-16_michelle_williams_falling_in_love_with_spike_jonze_didnt_save_her_from_pain_of_l.html

Michelle Williams: Falling in love with Spike Jonze didn't save her from pain of losing Heath Ledger

Another source of strength – and love – came to the actress last year when she began dating director Spike Jonze, from whom she's now split.

"I thought falling in love again was the only thing that was going to save me from the pain," she says. "This erroneous idea: It just makes things more complicated."

Dating as a single mother didn't make things any easier, Williams added, admitting "I obviously don't know how to do it."

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too bad. eh.

attaboy, spike.

Spike Jonze stop motion music video Mourir Auprès de Toi (To Die By Your Side) (http://vimeo.com/30704658)

Looks like our favorite financier, the lovely Ms. Megan Ellison, might be helping out with Spike's new film. Possibly staring fellow Master-ees Joaquin and Amy?

http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/samantha-morton-amy-adams-and-carey-mulligan-circle-spike-jonze-film/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/samantha-morton-amy-adams-and-carey-mulligan-circle-spike-jonze-film/)

What does she look like?

Quote from: DocSportello on February 07, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
Looks like our favorite financier, the lovely Ms. Megan Ellison, might be helping out with Spike's new film. Possibly staring fellow Master-ees Joaquin and Amy?

http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/samantha-morton-amy-adams-and-carey-mulligan-circle-spike-jonze-film/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/samantha-morton-amy-adams-and-carey-mulligan-circle-spike-jonze-film/)

Quote from: S.R. on February 07, 2012, 10:33:42 PM
What does she look like?

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"Hi, Stefen... how would you like to take a ride in my private jet and discuss Charlie Kaufman over a bottle of Perrier-Jouet?"

Quote from: polkablues on February 07, 2012, 11:45:40 PM

Quote from: DocSportello on February 07, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
Looks like our favorite financier, the lovely Ms. Megan Ellison, might be helping out with Spike's new film. Possibly staring fellow Master-ees Joaquin and Amy?

http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/samantha-morton-amy-adams-and-carey-mulligan-circle-spike-jonze-film/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/samantha-morton-amy-adams-and-carey-mulligan-circle-spike-jonze-film/)

Quote from: S.R. on February 07, 2012, 10:33:42 PM
What does she look like?

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"Hi, Stefen... how would you like to take a ride in my private jet and discuss Charlie Kaufman over a bottle of Perrier-Jouet?"

I don't have any money if that's what you're after.

she's like a cross between J-Lo and LiLo

Quote from: pete on February 08, 2012, 12:58:53 AM
she's got a dick though.

Quote from: Reelist on February 08, 2012, 08:44:17 AM
she's like a cross between J-Lo and Lindsay Lo

With a dick like Cee Lo

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Ugh. Since there seem to be two versions of Megan Ellison floating around, I did some research. That's actually novelist Melanie Craft, who married Larry Ellison in 2003. They divorced in 2010.

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Oracle CEO Larry Ellison and fiancee Melanie Craft wed
during the winter holidays after an eight-year courtship.
They were married by Ellison's friend Rep. Tom Lantos.
Photo by Thomas J. Gibbons, special to the Chronicle
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/01/14/MNGS649LVB1.DTL&ao=all

Also, she was 34 years old (now presumably 42). Megan Ellison is 25.

This is Megan Ellison:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/business/media/megan-ellison-and-annapurna-pictures-tackle-hollywood.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/jul/08/megan-ellison-billionaire-heiress-save-movies
http://www.minyanville.com/special-features/articles/david-ellison-megan-ellison-larry-ellison/8/31/2010/id/29771
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-02-14/entertainment/30031693_1_film-industry-scientology-projects
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/02/rich-bisexual-heiress-financing-paul-thomas-anderson-film

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Damn it, Google Image Search. I trusted you!

It's remarkable the number of websites using that image, even in combination with images of Megan Ellison's movies:

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It's time to terminate this misunderstanding.

But it could come back.

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Joaquin Phoenix Films Untitled Spike Jonze Movie on the Beach (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2152498/Joaquin-Phoenix-sports-dodgy-facial-hair-set-new-film--besotted-phone.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

Welcome to the year of me being into Joaquin Phoenix! These are exciting times.