76th Annual Academy Awards News!!

Started by The Silver Bullet, September 25, 2003, 08:26:34 AM

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GoneSavage

The Oscars are really stupid, they are just as bad as political elections.  True merit is not rewarded at these award shows.  It's pointless to bitch on end about who is and who isn't because the best won't win anyway.  Does Johnny Depp deserve it?  Yes, for practically every movie he's ever made.  Will he win this year?  The answer is no, and the subquestion is who cares.  He's already a great actor and I can't figure out why getting an award means differently.  These things are only important to shallow fakes like Renee Zellweger who care about stupid shit like this.  I bet she can't wait to be fitted for a dress that Joan Rivers will go cunt-crazy for.  Every one of us has opinions that are different than the wealthy dinosaurs on the academy.  So cool your jets, and put in the DVDs of your favorite movies of the year, and enjoy them because you enjoy them, not because someone else says you should be doing so.

P.S. -- Kill Bill  wasn't nominated because it sucked.

kotte

Are you saying I'm a shallow fake?

RegularKarate

Quote from: GoneSavageThe Oscars are really stupid, they are just as bad as political elections.  True merit is not rewarded at these award shows.  It's pointless to bitch on end about who is and who isn't because the best won't win anyway.  Does Johnny Depp deserve it?  Yes, for practically every movie he's ever made.  Will he win this year?  The answer is no, and the subquestion is who cares.  He's already a great actor and I can't figure out why getting an award means differently.  These things are only important to shallow fakes like Renee Zellweger who care about stupid shit like this.  I bet she can't wait to be fitted for a dress that Joan Rivers will go cunt-crazy for.  Every one of us has opinions that are different than the wealthy dinosaurs on the academy.  So cool your jets, and put in the DVDs of your favorite movies of the year, and enjoy them because you enjoy them, not because someone else says you should be doing so.

P.S. -- Kill Bill  wasn't nominated because it sucked.

Man, your bottom must be really sore.

Let me get this straight... you hate the Oscars because they're for shallow fakes (the Oscars do suck, but they're fun to watch and complain about) and you think that of all the people who deserve an Oscar, it's Johnny Depp for his funny yet two dimentional role in Pirates?  

And you think Kill Bill sucked?

yes... sore bottom, that's probably it.

Weak2ndAct

Quote from: GoneSavageThe Oscars are really stupid, they are just as bad as political elections.  True merit is not rewarded at these award shows.  It's pointless to bitch on end about who is and who isn't because the best won't win anyway.  Does Johnny Depp deserve it?  Yes, for practically every movie he's ever made.  Will he win this year?  The answer is no, and the subquestion is who cares.  He's already a great actor and I can't figure out why getting an award means differently.  These things are only important to shallow fakes like Renee Zellweger who care about stupid shit like this.  I bet she can't wait to be fitted for a dress that Joan Rivers will go cunt-crazy for.  Every one of us has opinions that are different than the wealthy dinosaurs on the academy.  So cool your jets, and put in the DVDs of your favorite movies of the year, and enjoy them because you enjoy them, not because someone else says you should be doing so.

P.S. -- Kill Bill  wasn't nominated because it sucked.
1. Even though you hate the Oscars, I bet you still watch them.
2. Johnny Depp is not Jesus.
3. If you were nominated, would you say you were a shallow fake?
4. Wealthy dinosaurs?  Jealous much?
5. Oh, so THAT'S why Kill Bill wasn't nominated.  Thanks for clearing that up, I was totally baffled!

abuck1220

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Quote from: abuck1220no fucking pearl jam. crap.
yeah, i agree, but it they were nominated and won, somehow i can't picture myself eddie vedder accepting the award. it's like if sean penn wins, he's not going to be there.

good point. for one, i doubt they would have showed up to perform, which would have looked bad. secondly, vedder's acceptance speech might have made michael moore's speech look like the pledge of allegiance.

slice

Quote from: ProgWRXA friend of mine told me that supposedly Access Hollywood was saying something to the effect that the Academy Voters snubbed Tom Cruise because him not doing Cold Mountain?

and this is true because the all academy voters function with a collective mind and perform all necessary survival skills based on the commands of the hive

SoNowThen

Quote from: Weak2ndAct3. If you were nominated, would you say you were a shallow fake?!

That's funny, I was thinking about this. Whadda you guys have to say? Cos if I ever got a nom, I'd feel like a sick little whore, being that I've hated this shitty awards show forever, and none of my heroes have ever really won.

BUT

It could be a huge career booster, and everyone likes to be recognized for the good work they do.

It'd be a tough thing, I think, for the old integrity meter...
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Pubrick

i would like to be nominated.

i would like to win.

i would like to shit on all ur lawns.
under the paving stones.

Finn

I was pretty happy with the nominations myself. I'm glad Cold Mountain didn't sweep everything.
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Uncommonly good
January 27, 2004

BY ROGER EBERT

Are these the nominations for the 76th annual Academy Awards, or more winners from Sundance? This year's nominations, announced early Tuesday, showed uncommon taste and imagination in reaching beyond the starstruck land of the Golden Globes to embrace surprising and in some cases almost unknown choices. It's one of the best lists in years.

This was supposed to be the year the independent films got stiffed, because of the MPAA ban on advance screeners for Academy members. But the voters hardly limited themselves to general-release blockbusters and big stars. Walking down the red carpet this year, nominated in the major acting categories, will be New Zealand teenager Keisha Castle-Hughes; Djimon Hounsou, who was born in Africa; Shohreh Aghdashloo, from Iran; and Ken Watanabe, from Japan. But no Russell Crowe. No Nicole Kidman. No Tom Cruise.

Superbly made big-budget epics dominated this year's nominations; "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" led with 11 nominations, and the sea epic "Master and Commander" had 10, but both were shut out of the acting categories. Both films ran up their totals with their below-the-line excellence in the craft categories.

As expected, the Academy nominated Charlize Theron, whose work in the low-budget "Monster" by first-time director Patty Jenkins was the performance of the year. Sean Penn's work as a grieving and vengeance-minded father in "Mystic River" was also honored, and look for those two to win the Oscars on Feb. 29.

In the top categories (picture, acting, writing, direction) the leader was Clint Eastwood's brooding drama "Mystic River," with six nominations, including Penn, Tim Robbins and Marcia Gay Harden. "Lost in Translation," Sofia Coppola's sweet and observant comedy about two lonely people in the middle of a Tokyo night, won four.

And consider the astonishing four nominations (director, screenplay, cinematography, editing) for the Brazilian film "City of God," which was ineligible in last year's foreign film category because the Brazilians refused to nominate their brilliant and angry film. And what about the support for "In America," the touching drama of an Irish immigrant family in New York, which was nominated for best actress, supporting actor and screenplay? And the seven nominations, mostly in craft categories, for "Seabiscuit," the horse-racing drama that voters remembered even though it opened way last summer?

Despite one of Miramax's patented high-powered Oscar campaigns, its candidate "Cold Mountain" was relatively overlooked despite its seven nominations; Jude Law was nominated for best actor and Renee Zellweger for supporting actress, but no best actress for Nicole Kidman, and no best picture, although it gathered nominations for cinematography, score, song (twice) and editing.

After critics publish their annual best 10 lists, readers often complain: "I've never heard of half those films!" This year the Academy will get similar letters. Most of North America has not had a chance to see (from the top eight categories) "Pieces of April," "House of Sand and Fog," "thirteen," "The Cooler," "21 Grams," "Whale Rider," "City of God," "The Barbarian Invasions," "Dirty Pretty Things" and "American Splendor." Not to mention the animated nominee "The Triplets of Belleville" and most of the documentary choices.

"In America" has had a relatively limited release, and "Monster" is only now going wide on the basis of publicity for Theron's performance. Many moviegoers in smaller cities and those not blessed by independent theaters and imaginative programming will recognize the titles of "Lord of the Rings," "Master and Commander," "Mystic River," "Cold Mountain," "Pirates of the Caribbean," "Finding Nemo" and "Something's Gotta Give," and after that they'll be in the dark.

What the nominations demonstrate, dramatically, is the disconnect between artistic quality and mainstream Hollywood product. As the major studios have increasingly focused on predictable mass entertainment formulas, quality and imagination have migrated to what could be called Sundance films: Lower budget, innovative projects fueled by the love of their makers, and sometimes by the determination of actors trying to break out of assembly-line fodder. The unfamiliar titles on this year's list will be very familiar to veterans of the Sundance and Toronto festivals ("Whale Rider" won the audience award at both fests). But many multiplexes, booked by computer from Hollywood with no regard for local tastes, never show such titles. Even college towns in mid-America never get them.

Looking at the nominations again, my delight only increases. How perceptive of the Academy to know that Holly Hunter, not Evan Rachel Wood (as her daughter) gave the best performance in "thirteen." What imagination to honor Johnny Depp, who transformed a pirate epic with his weird and daring performance (he said he was channeling Keith Richard). How daring to honor Keisha Castle-Hughes as best actress instead of caving in to the Miramax steamroller for Nicole Kidman. How right to admire Diane Keaton's work in "Something's Gotta Give" without feeling obligated to give Jack Nicholson his 13th nomination.

With only three slots in the animation category, how absolutely correct to assign one of them to "The Triplets of Belleville," the Canadian-French co-production, one of the most delightfully weird of animated features. And consider the original screenplay nominations for "Dirty Pretty Things," a political thriller about immigrants in London, and Denys Arcand's "The Barbarian Invasions," about a dying leftist intellectual in Quebec. (Both films were big-time audience pleasers, but given distribution patterns, of course reached only small audiences).

Even some of the universally-expected nominations took some imagination. Bill Murray, Charlize Theron, Alec Baldwin, Benicio del Toro, Samantha Morton and Ben Kingsley may have been on lots of lists of Oscar predictions, but their work is uniformly inventive, offbeat and exciting—and not in blockbusters, but in lower-budget films made in the independent spirit.

How good were this year's nominations? Well, assuming that my list of the best films of 2003 is the gold standard, the Academy distributed 30 nominations among eight of my top 10 titles. You'd think it was one of those critics' groups.

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Sanjuro

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Quote from: Sanjurobut how come no city of god in foreign language?

Further proof no one reads my posts.

sorry mised it was just really excitedwith the list
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soixante

If Master and Commander counts as a Miramax co-production, then Miramax is represented in the Best Picture category once again.  Also, I think the Weinsteins have their names on Lord of the Rings as exec producers.

Even in an "off" year, Miramax is still well represented in the noms.  It is amazing that City of God got 4 nods.

I get the feeling that the Academy voter-ship is getting younger, or at least more daring, after giving statues last year to Polanski, Brody and script to Talk to Her.

Oscars often go to undeserving films and people, but even so, Oscars create an incentive for studios to make movies that aren't assembly line pieces of junk.  It also spurs movie stars into doing low budget, edgy films.
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I like that Ebert article. This was a pretty good year of noms all in all, though I'm still in Stage II of my Scarlett Johannson depression.

Quote from: GoneSavageThe Oscars are really stupid, they are just as bad as political elections. True merit is not rewarded at these award shows. It's pointless to bitch on end about who is and who isn't because the best won't win anyway. Does Johnny Depp deserve it? Yes, for practically every movie he's ever made. Will he win this year? The answer is no, and the subquestion is who cares. He's already a great actor and I can't figure out why getting an award means differently. These things are only important to shallow fakes like Renee Zellweger who care about stupid shit like this. I bet she can't wait to be fitted for a dress that Joan Rivers will go cunt-crazy for. Every one of us has opinions that are different than the wealthy dinosaurs on the academy. So cool your jets, and put in the DVDs of your favorite movies of the year, and enjoy them because you enjoy them, not because someone else says you should be doing so.

P.S. -- Kill Bill wasn't nominated because it sucked.

You need to chill out. Watching the Awards is fun, getting to support your movie and being sad that it didn't win. And nobody's shallow because they'd like an award--it shows them that their work is recognized and distinguished from the rest, in the opinion of the humongous Academy. And while something makes me doubt that Kill Bill will ever be nominated for any Oscars, I doubt it's 'because it sucks.' More like it's just not the type of movie the Academy goes for.

mogwai

Quote from: abuck1220vedder's acceptance speech might have made michael moore's speech look like the pledge of allegiance.
haha, good one!

Myxo

Fucking critics and their horse/boat fetish this year. Oh well.

My picks for the main awards (What I want to win):

Picture: Lord of the Rings - Return of the King
Actor: Sean Penn
Actress: Charlize Theron
Supporting Actor: Benicio Del Toro
I believe Serkis should have at least gotten a nomination here.
Supporting Actress: I don't really care. Weak category this year.
Directing: Lord of the Rings - Return of the King
He's got to get a nod here. I realize we should be pitting LOTR3 against the other films in this category. However, he needs to be recognized for putting together an amazing trilogy of films. My sentimental favorite is Coppola though.
Cinematography: Girl With a Pearl Earring
I can't bring myself to vote for the horse or boat films this year. I didn't think either of them were that amazing.
Editing: Lord of the Rings - Return of the King
For 21 Grams to not be nominated in this category is criminal.
Adapted Screenplay: Lord of the Rings - Return of the King
Original Screenplay: Lost In Translation
I have a feeling that Coppola will win here and lose in the "Best Director" category.