What's in your opinion the worst Steven Spielberg-film?
I didn't saw "Sugarland Express" but I think "Hook" is by far his worst. :twisted:
What do you think?
Spike
just to get this straight: i am not a spielberg hater. i think he is a brilliant filmmaker. but he is still not without his mistakes. overall, i think hook is his worst (but if hook is ur worst film, then you dont have too much to worry about). i dont think it would have killed him to skip the lost world (altho i do enjoy some sequences) or 1941 (which i dont think is as bad as its reputation), or hell even temple of doom. thats about it, methinks.
oh and u havent seen sugarland express? i have. its one of his very best films.
lost world
Quote from: ewardor hell even temple of doom.
But Temple Of Doom is brilliant!
I was really young when I saw Hook, and I loved it back then. I see no reason to ruin the memory with a current viewing.
I was trying to think of which of his movies weren't very good, but then I realized there are a huge number I haven't seen. Always, Color Purple, 1941, Sugarland Express and....Jaws. I know, I know, that last one is unforgiveable. On the flip side, I have seen this obscure TV movie he did called Something Evil.
C'mon guys. Hook was a great kids movie. RU-FI-OOOOOOOOOOO. Seriously.
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Dead on.
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totally.
Quote from: Phil Marlowetotally.
indubitably.
Lost World was the worst IMO, nothing about it was too great to me. On the other hand I loved Hook, creative set.
I haven't seen 1941 all the way through yet, so I guess I'd have to say The Lost World. It was such a disappointment for me when it came out. I was hoping that Spielberg wasn't losing his touch, but then he made up for it the next year with Saving Private Ryan.
i really HATED amistad, lost world, and most of saving pvt ryan
Quote from: cecil b. dementedi really HATED amistad, lost world, and most of saving pvt ryan
Saving Private Ryan is one of his best films. How could you hate it?
Anyway, I agree with all of you who said THE LOST WORLD was the worst. It is the worst, but its still not bad. I think HOOK is brilliant, by the way.
Quote from: TeddySaving Private Ryan is one of his best films. How could you hate it?
the opening war scene is amazing, and the end war scene is not that bad, but since the first is so perfect, it makes it seem boring. all the crap in the middle i didnt like. and that stupid bookend thing with old matt damon was just terrible. thats why i hate it
Halloween 5: The Curse of Michael Myers. He ain't fooling me with that Dominique Othenin-Girard alias.
Cecil's pretty right about Saving Private Ryan. Incredible beginning, great ending, and a handful of really good sequences in between. The rest of the movie is okay, but nothing really special, and those godawful book ends leave the entire movie in a bad light. I cringe just thinking about them.
The Thin Red Line was the best war movie that year. And possibly one of the best of all time.
Quote from: GhostboyThe Thin Red Line was the best war movie that year. And possibly one of the best of all time.
totally. i really dont understand all the talk of it failing badly and that its one of the greatest cinematic disapointments ever. for me it is THE war movie. its one of those very few movies of the genre that doesnt seem fake to me, maybe because it operates on such a psykological level. many of the movies who often is being referred to as masterpieces, such as private ryan and platoon, doesnt get to me. i dont believe the movie is showing war action, i believe the movie is showing actors who run around pretending to be in war action.
I loved Platoon. I haven't seen SPR since it came out. I didn't like it then aside from selected scenes. This is the first time I'm not alone. I really should give it another chance, though. I was friggin' 13 at the time.
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The Thin Red Line was the best war movie that year. And possibly one of the best of all time.
Fuck yeah. Easily. That movie is so great. The score is amazing. Best score ever.
Thin Red Line is still shrink wrapped on my shelf. Perhaps on a cold sunday night I can pop it in the DVD player while drinking a cold can of orange soda? I believe Badlands and Days of Heaven are masterworks, and The Thin Red Line is probably a masterwork as well.
While we're on the topic, I'd say The Lost World is his worst as well. At least with Hook, he was trying to make a movie for little kids to enjoy.
While we're on war films, I'll always make the case that The Deer Hunter is the best war movie ever. Finally, a war film without much war and combat.
I know, it's kind of like a cheesesteak without cheese, but at least the beef is really good, and the bread is baked to perfection.. soft and fluffy.
i don't care what any of you say... well, that's a little mean and not completely true... but i hated the thin red line... with an all consuming passion, which has since died down, but that may be because i refuse to watch it again.
So many, many to choose from...
...at this point, I'll only cop to even sort of liking Temple of Doom. Low on sap and "seriousness," high on energy and pulp. That's what he's good at.
The crap, in order of craptacularity:
Saving Private Ryan
Always
A.I. (a desecration)
Amistad
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Does picking one mean I think he actually has Good Films? If so, I will say EVERYTHING except Jaws.
Actually, y'know what, that's mean. I shouldn't rip the guy in his own section; this is where the fans are. So I'll just say I liked Jaws... and leave it at that.
1941.
i thought it was painfully unfunny and terribly long. im not sure i ever made it to the end of that one.
the lost world atleast had a few cool suspense sequences. (c'mon the truck hanging off the cliff, with julianne moore pressed up against the breaking glass, was cool. admit it).
i havent seen temple of doom in atleast 10 years although i remember liking it better than the first one when i was younger. then again, kids usually like sequels because theyre more suited towards the slower attention spans of kids. (back to the future 2 comes to mind as another one i liked better (cause the future was cool).)
i loved saving private ryan although its a bit too spielbergesque for some.
amistad didnt really do anything for me though. a bit boring and by the numbers historical type thing, just wasnt my bag. cool cinematography in the opening boat sequence during the storm though.
( havent seen always, sugarland express or duel).
Worst by Spielburg: Close Encounters of the Third Kind
I'm still waiting for a decent alien/abduction movie (i.e. does NOT take place in space). I guess I'll just have to make it myself. It will be truly wonderful, people. Believe me.
Also, The Thin Red Line is an overrated piece of garbage. I couldn't even make it to the end. I cut it off in the middle of a battle sequence (in some shallow river), I just couldn't take anymore. So, nobody better tell me, "Oh, that's when it starts to get GOOD!" because it was already two hours into the damn thing. And the only war movie worse than Red Line was Windtalkers... but somehow I made it all the way through Windtalkers.
Sorry for the OT. :roll:
Quote from: markums2kWorst by Spielburg: Close Encounters of the Third Kind
The fuck? I mean, what? No.
Quote from: markums2kAlso, The Thin Red Line is an overrated piece of garbage. I couldn't even make it to the end. I cut it off in the middle of a battle sequence (in some shallow river), I just couldn't take anymore. So, nobody better tell me, "Oh, that's when it starts to get GOOD!" because it was already two hours into the damn thing. And the only war movie worse than Red Line was Windtalkers... but somehow I made it all the way through Windtalkers.
Have you ever seen any movies?
Quote from: MeshQuote from: markums2kWorst by Spielburg: Close Encounters of the Third Kind
The fuck? I mean, what? No.
...
Have you ever seen any movies?
I guess what I said was so wonderful that it just all had to be said again...
Okay, I like how you just completely avoid making any sort of point in your post. I mean, other than, markums2k doesn't have any idea of what he's talking about.
I stand by my statement.
Close Encounters... it's awful. In my opinion. Sorry to burst your bubble. I don't think it's a masterpiece by any stretch. I've seen it 4 times. All being attentive, deliberate viewings, and I hated it more everytime. I'm even biased in favor of the subject matter, and I still hate it. To this day.
And no. I have never seen any movies. I don't even know who Steven Spielburg is. Funny how that works. :?
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Okay, I like how you just completely avoid making any sort of point in your post. I mean, other than, markums2k doesn't have any idea of what he's talking about.
That's pretty much what I was going for.
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And no. I have never seen any movies. I don't even know who Steven Spielburg is. Funny how that works. :?
Dude, your two worst War Films of All Time are Windtalkers and The Thin Red Line.
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
wow. i just rewatched HOOK and THE LOST WORLD for the first time in years, (since they are pretty consistently thought of as BAD, but my memory is liking them when they came out). boy they are both SO TERRIBLE. i had no idea. HOOK is so dated in the early nineties. the look and special effects is so fake. and everything about it is just pandering to kids. its such a misfire, (but spielberg has admitted to that). and the LOST WORLD as well. just not good at all. i remembered liking it, but its hardly watchable. he has also said that it was the most boring experience he ever had making a movie, cause he was so disinterested with making that movie, but since he wouldnt give audiences ET2, he made this one for the "public". it shows. :x
Well said. AI too....didn't like that one too much.
for every bad flick he has tho he has about four good to great ones.
gotta be Lost World. That story was only meant to be told once.
it's the terminal. oh my god it's the terminal. wow, that was so bad. oh my god, it was awful, i wanted to cry.
Quote from: modagewow. i just rewatched HOOK and THE LOST WORLD for the first time in years, (since they are pretty consistently thought of as BAD, but my memory is liking them when they came out). boy they are both SO TERRIBLE. i had no idea. HOOK is so dated in the early nineties. the look and special effects is so fake. and everything about it is just pandering to kids. its such a misfire, (but spielberg has admitted to that). and the LOST WORLD as well. just not good at all. i remembered liking it, but its hardly watchable. he has also said that it was the most boring experience he ever had making a movie, cause he was so disinterested with making that movie, but since he wouldnt give audiences ET2, he made this one for the "public". it shows. :x
Well
I just rewatched HOOK and it's STILL fucking awesome, so all you haters can eat it!
well i just rewatched The Terminal on HBO and it was mostly good!
Got to agree with Bonanz, The Terminal was one of the worst things I think I have ever seen, and I love Spielberg's work. Sitting through it was actually painful. I wanted to leave so badly throughout the whole thing, and of course I didn't because I just felt I had to see the whole thing since it was a Spielberg film. But, my god, I kept waiting for a point to this boooooring booooring idiotic story, and it never came. The antagonism of Tucci's character was so unmotivated and tried painfully hard to be "light" and "funny". Staring at the airport set which got more press than anything else in the movie (and rightfully so, since the boring terminal set was better constructed than the script) made my head ache.
Oh my god, my god my god, The Terminal was interminable
Terminal was bad but at least it was honest.
A.I. felt like a total fraud. I hate that movie with a passion.
It's funny because almost the exact opposite is true.
Agreed, except I wouldn't say AI was bad. I thought it was pretty fantastic. I can't speak for the above post because Myxo may already know this, but I've found that most people who hated A.I. didn't get that the creatures at the end were robots and not aliens. I didn't like it either till I figured that one out.
It later occured to me that the entire film was not even necessarily supposed to be "true" but was actually a fairy tale for the robots who longed to know more about us, their long-gone creators, and the story of David was actually just a fairy tale that these robots tell their young. Just a theory.
Always. Plain and simple.
Even though JP:2 was a super waste of talent.
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Halloween 5: The Curse of Michael Myers. He ain't fooling me with that Dominique Othenin-Girard alias.
Hilarious :yabbse-thumbup:
Temple of Doom
Color Purple
Last Crusade
Always
Hook
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C'mon guys. Hook was a great kids movie. RU-FI-OOOOOOOOOOO. Seriously.
i second that. good form!
I wasn't aware that there was any room for debate. 1941.
Quote from: bonanzataz on August 24, 2005, 04:16:49 PM
it's the terminal. oh my god it's the terminal. wow, that was so bad. oh my god, it was awful, i wanted to cry.
you get the award for making me choke on my special k
Worst line in a Spielberg flick-
"You turkey!" - Richard Dreyfuss in Close Encounters of the Third Kind after being cut off by another automobile.
And there's my one and only Thanksgiving post. Happy Turkey Day, Richard Dreyfuss.
"That doesn't look so scary....more like a six-foot turkey!" - The fat kid in Jurassic Park
Then Alan Grant proceeds to scar him for life by describing how a velociraptor would disembowel him. HAPPY THANKSGIVING, especially Canada.
What's wrong with Close Encounters?
Whats wrong with E.T.?
What's wrong with crying?
it's what's wrong with garam.
he watches Oprah...
but the cute kids say swear words! its endearing!
Catch Me If You Can made me wanna steal stuff.
This thread should have been locked the day The Terminal came out.
Quote from: hacksparrow on December 08, 2005, 09:42:40 AM
This thread should have been locked the day The Terminal came out.
i personally don't see a need for it anymore. from A.I. on, spielberg has gotten better and better with each movie he makes.
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Quote from: hacksparrow on December 08, 2005, 09:42:40 AM
This thread should have been locked the day The Terminal came out.
i personally don't see a need for it anymore. from A.I. on, spielberg has gotten better and better with each movie he makes.
Actually, I think I might agree with you, here. I'm a longtime Spielberg-doubter, but I was surprised at how much I enjoyed
Catch Me if You Can,
The Terminal,
Minority Reportand even much of
Munich (I realize that list isn't in order). I personally agree with J. Hoberman about
Schindler's being Spielberg's nadir for various important reasons. But
Munich was quite something in lots of sections (though that parallel-action sex scene should be in the dictionary under "pretension," and that's coming from someone who will sit through any impromptu Antonioni marathon you'd ever care to put on). Brilliant costumes/locations/international-espionage glamor, and not a total political brain-sieve like I've so often found Spielberg's "seriousness" to be (do we have Tony Kushner to thank for that?).