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The Small Screen / Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)
« Last post by KJ on Yesterday at 08:17:29 PM »
Has it leaked yet?
The Grapevine / Re: How to Talk to Girls at Parties
« Last post by WorldForgot on Yesterday at 07:06:37 PM »
Damn, for a moment I thought that datamoshing at around 16seconds was deliberate.
The Grapevine / Re: How to Talk to Girls at Parties
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The Small Screen / Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)
« Last post by ©brad on Yesterday at 04:22:52 PM »
I don't necessary agree with this Vulture article from beginning to end in regards to GoT's perceived problem with time and place, but it does bring up some interesting points for debate:

"There’s an even bigger issue with scrapping the commonplace logic that it takes a long time to get to faraway places: Without firm rules about time and geography, suddenly everything becomes possible. The pressures that create obstacles for our beloved and reviled characters no longer feel all that hard to overcome. The strategic cost of sending Jon Snow beyond the Wall to collect a wight would be massive if he were taking himself out of the diplomatic game for episodes on end, and his near-death moment in the ambush would be similarly colossal. Instead, we’re left with … you know, the battle is cool! The dragons are cool! But it doesn’t feel all that astonishing or impressive when Dany saves them, because apparently flying across the continent is just a thing someone can do without any further explanation.

This is the real problem with abandoning incontrovertible rules for space and time, even in a made-up universe like the one in Game of Thrones. Once your audience notices the fictional world is fickle, the seams of the whole thing become visible. Once you’ve seen behind the curtain of how the story works, you look at each event in the narrative for what it really is (a decision made to push the story forward) rather than what you’d like it to be (the story as a story, the end)."

News and Theory / Re: Garbage pail trailers
« Last post by WorldForgot on Yesterday at 12:18:16 PM »
This exists?

Hmm... Maybe DirectTV would do my texas two-step teen-horror screenplay...
The Director's Chair / Re: Alejandro Jodorowsky
« Last post by jenkins on Yesterday at 11:03:35 AM »
why it was delayed i'm not sure, but Endless Poetry arrives at Cinefamily this Saturday (8/26). it then plays Sunday and Monday, and is scheduled for the following Saturday (9/2) and Sunday and Tuesday.
The Small Screen / Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)
« Last post by Drenk on Yesterday at 09:26:25 AM »
"So the plan was pretty damn stupid but it resulted in some pretty great scenes."

The scene with the bears was terrifying. It scared me. Once the army of walkers are around them I knew the show was just waiting for dragons and that they were safe.
News and Theory / Re: Garbage pail trailers
« Last post by wilder on Yesterday at 03:49:53 AM »
Comedian Brent Weinbach mentioned that his father wrote and produced this movie on the latest episode of WTF. Bizarrely, it's directed by the great cinematographer Jack Cardiff (Black Narcissus, The Red Shoes), and is apparently only the second movie after Tod Browning's Freaks (1932) to star actual "freaks":

The Small Screen / Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)
« Last post by Jeremy Blackman on August 20, 2017, 11:08:37 PM »
[Posting this without reading any replies or reviews yet. Also, it got long, so I included subheads.]

Welp this is going to be a divisive one for sure. I pretty much loved it by the end, though. Why? Because we've fully crossed over into bonkers fantasy, that's not going to stop, and I'm prepared.

I'll get some quibbles out of the way first. Feel free to rebut any of them, because I did love this episode...

– Build-up to the blue eye was at least 5 seconds too long. We all knew what was going to happen.
– Benjen had time, right? Maybe he needed to serve as a distraction, but that wasn't communicated well.
– Tyrion's fireside dialogue was not good. He sounded like an idiot. Dany's responses were great though, so maybe a wash.

Pre-emptive fan-splaining

Sansa confided in Littlefinger. People are going to hate that. But did she actually make a mistake? Watch that scene carefully — she actually gets a lot of information out of him. Littlefinger basically reveals that he wants Arya dead, and that Brienne might be the one to do it. So what does Sansa do? She immediately sends Brienne away so Littlefinger's plan cannot be executed.

[Just emailed that ^ in as podcast feedback, complete with a clickbait subject line. If it makes it in, I can die happy.]

The real dumb one here is Arya. That's going to break a lot of people's hearts — fans who've been rooting for her from the beginning. Well guess what, this is what Arya has become. It's quite dark. A couple more crucial things to note here. Arya made much of her lie detector test. Sansa appears to have passed it. Inevitable conclusion: Arya performs this test on Littlefinger and he fails.

Just based on the responses to this season, I know people are going to complain hardcore about that raven. I thought they conveyed clearly that significant time had passed — Thoros had completely frozen, and the rest of them were not far behind. Also someone on Reddit did the math, and it seems to check out, although it is very close:

In conclusion: It seems to me that the just over 4 day travel time required for Dany to to receive the Raven and fly to Eastwatch, seems to line up accurately with the amount of time it would take ice to grow enough to support an army of undead to fight on top of it in those conditions.

This was a truly frightening episode, wasn't it? The journey beyond the wall, Dany and Tyrion fighting, and ice-cold Arya. I don't think I have been more afraid during an episode from the beginning to the end. I really wonder if that deep unease — feeling lost, like you don't really know this world, like anything could happen — is going to color people's assessment of this episode. But I welcome all of that. It really was time for the show to punish us again.

A contrarian opinion that you will find convincing

Tyrion and Jon's plan turned out to be just as dumb as expected. But, four mitigating points:

(1) They have both proven themselves to be horrible strategists.

(2) People do dumb things. I don't mind seeing that in GoT. It happens a lot. This is certainly not competence porn. Mistakes in this show quite often lead to difficulty — and there were very real consequences here.

(3) The plan is one of those "so crazy it just might work" scenarios. I am fine with that, because this episode feels very true in a way to the spirit of GoT — even an improbable and heroic win creates new challenges. The feel of the story right now might even presage the "bittersweet" ending that Martin envisions.

(4) Jon expressing regret (finally confessing his stupidity?) went a long way for me. And then of course we get to the real point of this venture, which was showing Daenerys. "You don't really know until you see," she said. Cersei is just a bonus. Dany is going to win this thing. Now it's personal.

If this boat's a-rockin'...

The final 18 minutes, starting with Dany's arrival, was 100% gold. Probably one of my favorite stretches in the show's history. And the scene between Jon and Dany — wow, they nailed that so hard. Speaking of which, Dany looked like she was about to jump him right then and there, were it not for him being almost dead.

When Jon said "how about my queen" my head literally exploded. I don't have a head anymore. For some reason that hit me like a ton of bricks — like, wait, did I fantasize that line, or did it actually just happen? Beautiful performances there. Now these two have really been through some shit together, as they say. It's remarkable how this is one of the most vividly realized relationships ever done on the show, and it was fully accomplished in the space of 4 episodes, even admist everything else that's been happening.
The Small Screen / Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)
« Last post by Drenk on August 20, 2017, 10:25:25 PM »
So the plan was pretty damn stupid but it resulted in some pretty great scenes.

Yes, and it's hard to not enjoy them whatever we think of the story. The scenes were impressive. It wasn't as good as Hardhome because, outside of the dragons, you realize it is mostly people waiting and fighting inside of a circle an army that should kill them in a few seconds but everything in that show is done the best way it could be done. And it also had the scene with the zombie bears: I loved that one, it scared the shit out of me.

The storyline in Winterfell is very painful to watch but, if I understood correctly, it's all good between Sansa and Arya now? Good, I guess...
Also: the same way that Littlefinger is supposed to be some kind of great strategist while doing nothing of substance, Bran having superpowers and not doing much with them is becoming a big flaw...He's also a sociopath who doesn't care about anything so it can make some kind of sense...But I'd rather watch Bran using his powers (the scene with the ravens was beautiful, like JB said) than watching Maisie Williams struggling to play bad material the best way she can...
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