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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: Convael on May 27, 2009, 02:56:28 PM

Title: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Convael on May 27, 2009, 02:56:28 PM
I've been rekindling my love affair with Boogie Nights and decided to buy the script off Amazon since it was really cheap, but what I ended up getting was a tiny little book with tiny text and a couple photos from the movie.  The book looks official and everything and it's not like I got ripped off... but the reason why I wanted it in the first place was because I read this: http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/articles/display.php?id=B03 where PT Anderson talks about the pink pages and the stuff that he had to change and says that this is the script they went to shoot with every day.  I'm wondering if anyone has that script?  Maybe from buying it years ago... The one I have is fine, it's just exactly what you'd find on imsdb.com except in some crappy small paperback.  I'm looking for the script, if it exists, which has that foreword and everything else that he talks about.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Pozer on May 27, 2009, 03:27:43 PM
i have the exact same little book w/little print you're talking about but w/that introduction. no pink pages. the script you got is the shooting one.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: jigzaw on May 27, 2009, 05:03:48 PM
I have it too.  At least he made faber actually print a facsimile of the script (even if you need a magnifying glass to reads it) rather than their usual transcript-looking books.  I do wish the Boogie Nights script had been published by The Shooting Script which really does screenplays justice.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: MacGuffin on May 28, 2009, 12:31:27 AM
Even if you buy the paper script at a store, it won't have all the color revised pages. It'll still be printed on white paper.

But, if you go through the book it still tells you where all the revisions are, as noted by asterisks on the right side of the page (*). They also tell you what day and color that particular revision was done. For example, the scene where Dirk and his mom fight in bedroom over his "stuff" (scene 28), it says at the top of the page "PINK PAGES REVISED 6/26/96".
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Convael on May 28, 2009, 11:40:03 PM
Even if you buy the paper script at a store, it won't have all the color revised pages. It'll still be printed on white paper.

But, if you go through the book it still tells you where all the revisions are, as noted by asterisks on the right side of the page (*). They also tell you what day and color that particular revision was done. For example, the scene where Dirk and his mom fight in bedroom over his "stuff" (scene 28), it says at the top of the page "PINK PAGES REVISED 6/26/96".
Oh cool.  I just flipped through the book, went "this is bullshit" and tossed it to the side.  I'll pay more attention to it now...  I was hoping that there would be a script out there like the PDL one which shows different drafts and changes that were made to the script over time but I guess this is the best I can get.  I wonder if his 300 page version of the script is still out there.  Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: depooter on July 11, 2009, 09:31:54 AM
Oh cool.  I just flipped through the book, went "this is bullshit" and tossed it to the side.  I'll pay more attention to it now...  I was hoping that there would be a script out there like the PDL one which shows different drafts and changes that were made to the script over time but I guess this is the best I can get.  I wonder if his 300 page version of the script is still out there.  Thanks everyone.

Yeah. i have a few different early versions of the script (along with Punch Drunk Knuckle Love)...I'm sure you still track these down...

thanks
Greg
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Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: theyarelegion on July 11, 2009, 11:44:17 AM
in hard copy or as .pdf's?
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: depooter on July 15, 2009, 07:07:50 PM
I have original hard copies of two early boogie nights scripts, hard eight and knuckle sandwich (not to be confused with Punch Drunk Love although pieces of dialogue have been taken from knuckle sandwich and used in PDL and Magnolia)....

Thanks
Greg
www.pixartalk.com
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Convael on July 15, 2009, 10:56:34 PM
Would you be able to make copies of those and sell them?
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Pozer on July 16, 2009, 07:17:36 PM
i've always wanted to read Knuckle Sandwich & Rule of the Bone.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: depooter on July 16, 2009, 09:46:59 PM
oh yeah.. I have Rule of the Bone too :)

If you're interested, Hit me with a PM and we can discuss $$
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Convael on July 16, 2009, 10:29:42 PM
Is Rule of the Bone the book that PTA was asked to write an adaptation of?  The screenplay of it actually exists?

Also could someone possibly clarify for me what the difference between PDL and Knuckle Sandwich is...
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Stefen on July 17, 2009, 08:56:41 AM
I'd be curious to read both, too.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: depooter on July 19, 2009, 04:40:30 PM
Is Rule of the Bone the book that PTA was asked to write an adaptation of?  The screenplay of it actually exists?

Also could someone possibly clarify for me what the difference between PDL and Knuckle Sandwich is...

Yes. Rule of the Bone is the adaption of the Russell Bank's book. Was supposed to be directed by Carl Franklin I believe..

Knuckle Sandwich is an early script by PTA...very Tarantino/True Romance ish....only a few lines of dialogue and character names were used in his other films (Magnolia and PDL)....otherwise it's a completely original story..


Greg
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Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Stefen on July 19, 2009, 04:51:32 PM
Are they any good?
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: depooter on July 21, 2009, 06:16:53 PM
Ok. I grabbed my stuff. Since I've been getting alot of questions, here's the details.

Boogie Nights - First Draft - July 1994 (186 pages) very, very different from the finished film.

Boogie Nights - Revised Draft - May 13, 1996 - (152 pages) closer to the film, but still quite a bit of deleted scenes and dialogue.

Sydney - Blue Revised - February 16, 1995 (97 pages). pretty much the shooting script.

Rule of the Bone - Revised First Draft - June 19, 1996 (130 pages) - it's an adaption, but it definitely feels like a PTA script.

Knuckle Sandwich - First Draft - September/October, 1993! (140 pages). Set in L.A. in 1967. Characters are Barry Wurlitzer and Lena Leonard. Some dialogue made it into Magnolia and there's a few PDL touches, but this is a wholly original story/script. It feels like PTA doing Tarantino/True Romance. very cool...

thanks
Greg
www.pixartalk.com
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Convael on July 21, 2009, 07:44:23 PM
So... I have a question for you depooter.  After reading the "finale" stuff on http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/film.php?id=BC1 could you tell me if the 186 page version of the script you have ends with the CU of Dirk right after Jessie gives birth?  Was that the intended ending of the whole movie?

Also if anyone would be kind enough to tell me why there seem to be 2 versions of cigarettesandredvines, one of which has a ton more stuff than the other, that'd be cool.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: bluejaytwist on July 22, 2009, 11:11:32 AM
it is because we (jeff/i) got swamped with other things right in the middle of a re-design and everything got a bit sideways. we are working on putting everything back in its place shortly. apologies.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: depooter on July 25, 2009, 12:02:13 AM
So... I have a question for you depooter.  After reading the "finale" stuff on http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/film.php?id=BC1 could you tell me if the 186 page version of the script you have ends with the CU of Dirk right after Jessie gives birth?  Was that the intended ending of the whole movie?

Also if anyone would be kind enough to tell me why there seem to be 2 versions of cigarettesandredvines, one of which has a ton more stuff than the other, that'd be cool.  Thanks.

yep..that's the one.
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Convael on July 25, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
Great, can you check your messages?
Title: Re: Anyone bought BN script?
Post by: Convael on August 01, 2009, 09:25:51 PM
I had a friend who sent me a copy of Knuckle Sandwich.  It seems like this is the only place you could really talk about it.  I thought it was awful.  It's full of cliches that you'd find in this type of crime/romance/thriller movie.  Tons of slow-mo which just felt kinda cheesy.  A lot of the dialogue is the kind of stuff that you write when you're doing a first draft of a script (and it does say first draft).  Y'know, just pretty bland stuff and repetitive.  It's kinda amazing actually to think that the person who wrote this wrote... well... anything else he wrote.  I remember PTA saying that he thinks rewrites are bullshit and he likes to send his scripts out "zits and all" or something, but he must really, really, rewrite and rewrite tons of shit if this is what some of his first drafts are like.  It's weird that he wrote Cigarettes and Coffee the same year he wrote this, and I think he said he wrote a feature-length script of Boogie Nights when he was 20?  Sorry if I'm being too harsh, but there's a lot to expect from this guy...  I'd like to hear what anyone else who has read it thought.  I think I'm being too cynical about it.  Sorry.