I often check out the recent reviews on
CAP Alert (http://www.capalert.com/capreports/) for some good laughs and to see just how much they despise movies of late.
However, I was looking through the Magnolia review, and look at one part hidden inside of the hate-filled review!
QuoteAnd, yes, there was nudity and intecourse. The whole of the story is much more complex than this and is, in its own way, a masterpiece of theatrical art. However, the "art" status of this film was totally smothered by the vulgarities, profanities, and other portrayals of sinful behavior with no more concern that getting a popcorn shell stuck in your gums.
It appears that this man is a PTA fan deep down inside!
they always make me laugh
How ridiculous is it to assume that art must be "clean"?
Yeah, many of the movies that they give the lowest scores to have really quite moral messages that even they would approve of, if they would just put their scorebooks away and actually WATCH the movie.
WE'RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To get some truthful message across of the world, I prefer an R rated minimum. Hence my Scorsese and PTA worship.
:lol:
Oh my god, that website always cracks me up.
Are these people for real???
I think they are.
the tallies for Magnolia include gems like:
-lies to police officer
and
-adult in underwear
but I love the tallies for Jeepers Creepers 2 even more:
-public urination
-sounds of eating a boy's head
-graphic display of decapitaped head replacing demon's head
-several demon attacks with extended sight of demon's face and body
-knife implement by demon
and the best of all....
-lying about smokin
well i was gonna let my kids see it, I mean the demon head eating thing doesn't bother me, but the lyiong about smoking!!! No way they'll see it now.
my mother gave me a book this christmas. it's something about finding spirituality in films. i've scanned so far and i believe he is a christian. he also has a several page review of Magnolia and says it's his second favorite film
Quote from: bigideas... he also has a several page review of Magnolia and says it's his second favorite film
What's his FIRST favorite film then???????
Quote from: bigideasmy mother gave me a book this christmas. it's something about finding spirituality in films. i've scanned so far and i believe he is a christian. he also has a several page review of Magnolia and says it's his second favorite film
Yeah, I got this same book. He actually knows whats going on.
Here's a great quote from the book on pg241, "A friend of my once said that church people tend to be more offended by the use of the "F" word than they are by the death of children by avoidable malnutrition. Maybe we can get the f--- beyond that. But maybe the fact that I can't even quote the f-word in full in this book because some bookshops won't sell it is evidence for my pessimism."
Its much better than I previously expected from a Christian book on movies.
Christians are underrated.
Quote from: PChristians are underrated.
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TRUE.....FYI ...the agnostic/aethiest..outlook is such a typical rebellious high school outlook............ :roll:
my outlook is one of ignorance kind of. and how is the whole aetheist/agnostic thing a typical high school outlook? i choose not to "believe" anything...given that we know nothing for definite, i dont base my life on anything like that. those who can and do, i envy, cuz im sure its a very good thing to have, but i dont think i ever truthfully could be like that....
neon is talking about the whole "i'm so cool, i hate God, i don't believe in it, but i hate it anyway."
and ur right, we dont' know anything for definite. except a few things..
Quote from: Pand ur right, we dont' know anything for definite. except a few things..
Are you sure about that?
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaAre you sure about that?
yep. i was thinking about it, and i'm pretty sure about a few things. one that i'm alive. consequently, two, that we will all die. and because i hav faith in certain things, i'm also sure that death isn't/won't be the end of it all.
Quote from: ewardgiven that we know nothing for definite, i dont base my life on anything like that
yeah, but isn't that what "faith" is?
just because you don't know something for sure doesn't mean it can't be. i myself do not practice a specific religion, but i do believe in god. all the major religions try to make people believe in goodness and practice good morals. it's the fundamentalists who want to adhere to all the "rules" that give christianity a bad name. i don't understand how there can be people out there who say that matthew shepherd's death was a good thing for society and still believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. it makes absolutely no sense to me.
is there a religion thread where we can move this conversation to?
Quote from: taz.all the major religions try to make people believe in goodness and practice good morals. it's the fundamentalists who want to adhere to all the "rules" that give christianity a bad name.
But haven't they changed Christianity so much that it's unrecognizable as an essential religion? It's funny how people don't realize that Christianity originally was not a fundementalist religion, and that dogma was imposed by political entities.
Quote from: taz.i don't understand how there can be people out there who say that matthew shepherd's death was a good thing for society and still believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. it makes absolutely no sense to me.
The popular conception of Jesus is so bizarre and perverted that I don't think anyone can know anymore who the real Jesus was. I have a hard time internalizing a vengeful, pissed off Jesus, as he was painted in these images:
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John Martin's
The Last Judgment - Jesus' head in the dark cloud
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Michelangelo's
The Last Judgment (detail)
Quote from: taz.Quote from: ewardgiven that we know nothing for definite, i dont base my life on anything like that
yeah, but isn't that what "faith" is?
just because you don't know something for sure doesn't mean it can't be.
i know, but I find more paranoia in the thought of believing in a God that MAY or MAY NOT exist than actual comfort. This is just me, though. I believe in, basically, what I see around me. I'm not one to say God does not exist cuz how the fuck do I know? I don't. I'd like to believe he does. I think faith is a wonderful thing. I am just a little too neurotic to have it, I think. Religion on the other hand, has it's good points, and then it's VERY BAD points...
Quote from: ewardI believe in, basically, what I see around me.
Then you are severely limited. Use your imagination.
Allright, I don't think you really see my point...
Quote from: ewardAllright, I don't think you really see my point...
If you want to be a good agnostic, a good agnostic should believe that anything is possible, and should not believe that they have seen everything.
I might have worded it wrong. what i mean is that...what i don't know, i won't dismiss, but i won't put any sort of belief system on it, like i won't base my life on anything that i dont know for sure to be true. actually, I CAN'T do it is more of what I should say. I could say I believe in God but I couldn't say it 100 percent truthfully. I talk to God sometimes but I don't fully believe He is there. It's all very fucked up and I am still very young and have alot to figure out, but that is where I am at right now.
Bigideas, what is the book you got for Christmas called?
How Movies Helped Save my Soul
by Gareth Higgins
i still haven't really looked at it, here are some he does reviews on:
the royal tenenbaums
fight club
eyes wide shut
the last temptation of christ
paris, texas
the conversation
once upon a time in america
the straight story
blade runner
ratcatcher
the films of the coens
the matrix
Awesome, thanks.