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Title: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Stefen on July 05, 2005, 10:49:35 PM
She doesn't piss me off yet, cause shes cute as a button. But i'm starting to lose interest so she will be in a lil bit. It's kind of sad all the adults that latch onto her and made her who she is. I bet she hates doing what shes doing. Probably wants to be a marine biologist or something. She seems to be in EVERYTHING.

How come there seems to always be 1 child actor to rule all? It's almost like there can't be more than 1 good child actor at a time. They're window is usually three years depending on when they hit pubery. Then another one, younger is found and we have to deal with them till puberty. Jodie Foster and Dunst may be the exception to this rule, seeing as how they were able to make it even after they grew up. Elijah Wood too, but he's Frodo and may never be anything more to the average person. Whatever happened to Haley Joel? Did he get pimples? He's probably in college now. What was I talking about?
Title: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: cine on July 05, 2005, 11:05:34 PM
you were talking about how most 11 year olds want to be marine biologists and not hollywood actors.
Title: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Pubrick on July 05, 2005, 11:58:58 PM
i think chicks hav longer lasting power than young boy actors.

eg. dunst, olsens, johansson, trachtenberg,  barrymore, paquin, (up and coming) panettiere, and soon.. fanning.

if ur a young child actress, unless u get majorly into drugs or end up a real estate agent, u can totally hav a future in acting. it helps if u start on tv, grow up there, then move onto film when u can hold a young adult audience (which will then grow up and be ur adult audience). dudes however, well..

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Title: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Stefen on July 06, 2005, 12:13:39 AM
puberty is still funny.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussio
Post by: MacGuffin on July 06, 2005, 11:14:55 PM
Quote from: StefenJodie Foster and Dunst may be the exception to this rule, seeing as how they were able to make it even after they grew up. Elijah Wood too, but he's Frodo and may never be anything more to the average person.

Christian Bale?
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussio
Post by: Thrindle on July 07, 2005, 05:10:03 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinChristian Bale?
Definitely.  And Christina Ricci.
Title: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Reinhold on July 07, 2005, 09:23:28 AM
gary coleman. eh? eh?

seriously, though... lohan's boobs have had a very successful post-child career so far.
Title: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: polkablues on July 11, 2005, 07:35:55 PM
Dakota Fanning's not just an amazing actress for her age, she's an amazing actress for anyone's age.  Talent and focus that deep are going to carry her through long into adulthood.  I see her growing up and getting the roles that Jennifer Connelly and Naomi Watts are getting today.
Title: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Pubrick on July 11, 2005, 11:07:28 PM
Quote from: polkabluesthe roles that Jennifer Connelly and Naomi Watts are getting today.
and we all know what that means.. :yabbse-lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: matt35mm on October 06, 2006, 11:25:40 PM
Quote from: Lucid on October 06, 2006, 11:09:29 PM
"Whale Rider" Kid Star Preggers

Let's hope she's taking home ec this semester.

Oscar-nominated actress Keisha Castle-Hughes, 16, is reportedly expecting a child with her boyfriend of three years, Bradley Hull, 19.

The Whale Rider star is due this spring with what will be her first child, according to People. There's no word yet on the sex of the baby.

Castle-Hughes reportedly began dating Hull three years ago--but for what it's worth, she has already lived quite an accelerated decade and a half.

In 2002, at just 12 years old, she made her acting debut in the art-house hit Whale Rider, a big screen adaptation of a Maori legend following a girl who worked against the gender conventions of her tribe to fulfill her destiny as chief.

The following year, Castle-Hughes was nominated for a Best Actress Oscar at the tender age of 13, becoming the youngest person in Academy history to receive a nomination in the category.

Earlier that same year, the New Zealand native began dating Hull, whom she met while attending high school. At the time he told Australia's Age newspaper that he didn't attend the Oscar ceremony because "her people don't want me there."

"Maybe it's the age thing," the then-17-year-old said of his then-14-year-old girlfriend. "And she's real mature for her age--sometimes it's like she's 30."

Castle-Hughes will likely take some postpartum time off. But in the meantime, the actress, who most recently appeared as the Queen of Naboo in last year's Star Wars: Episode III--Revenge of the Sith, has got several films to promote.

She recently finished filming Nativity for New Line, where she will star as young mother Mary in the story of the birth of Jesus. Call it a trial run.

Castle-Hughes stars opposite 24's Shohreh Aghdashloo, who plays Elizabeth, Mary's mother, in the film, due out in time for Christmas.

She's also set to star alongside fellow Down Under native Toni Collette in Hey, Hey, It's Esther Blueberger, a coming-of-age story centering on a 13-year-old girl who tries to fit into both posh private and run-of-the-mill public schools.

Shooting hopefully starts soon.

Hmm.

My first reaction was, "QUOI??  NON!!"  But now I don't feel like it's so bad.  As long as she really feels good about the baby, that is.  I just don't think she's in the position where having a baby will ruin her life.  If the father's a good man and sticks by her, and if she's got family support, then I don't really see why this shouldn't be cause for smiles all around.  In this case.

That Hey, Hey movie is fucked, though.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: MacGuffin on March 05, 2009, 12:33:29 AM
Dakota Fanning fronts 'Runaways'
Kristen Stewart set to play Joan Jett in film
Source: Variety

Dakota Fanning is negotiating to play lead singer Cheri Currie in "The Runaways," the biopic of the '70s all-girl band that already has "Twilight" star Kristen Stewart playing Joan Jett.

Scripted and directed by Floria Sigismondi, the film begins production in late spring.

At 15, Fanning is the same age Currie was when she made her debut with the Runaways as the lead singer who belted out hard-edged tunes like "Cherry Bomb." Currie became caught up in drugs and a hard-partying lifestyle.

John and Art Linson are producing with River Road Entertainment's Bill Pohlad, with Jett serving as exec producer.

Fanning, who most recently starred in "The Secret Life of Bees" and "Push," and voiced "Coraline," is also booked to play a vampire in the "Twilight" sequel "New Moon."
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 05, 2009, 01:45:32 AM
 :shock: Oh Hell Yeah!
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: private witt on March 06, 2009, 05:43:34 AM
Could Natalie Portman's career be considered successful?
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Fernando on March 06, 2009, 01:40:15 PM
well, what's successful to you?

there can be a lot of levels of success, like:

- if an actor gets steady work and is well paid, that's successful
- if you have worked with directors like milos forman, woody allen, wong kar wai, wes anderson, mike nichols, minghella, tim burton, luc besson, m. mann (in a very small role)...that's success in my book
- if you keep getting good roles and work with interesting ppl like jim sheridan, that's successful

so it all depends how you see it really, but i think there's no question about it, she really is successful, and on top of that she has the movie star charisma without the scandals (so far) which is great.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: private witt on March 06, 2009, 02:48:11 PM
Trouble is that all her performances as an adult pale to her as a child.  So I guess if you're measuring success purely on knowing famous people and making money, sure, she's got it made.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Fernando on March 06, 2009, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: private witt on March 06, 2009, 02:48:11 PM
Trouble is that all her performances as an adult pale to her as a child. 

Is that the reason why you don't find her successful? I think she has good to great performances as an adult, just recently Goya's ghost, and the other Boleyn girl.


Quote from: private witt on March 06, 2009, 02:48:11 PM
So I guess if you're measuring success purely on knowing famous people and making money, sure, she's got it made.

I never said knowing famous ppl make you successful.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: private witt on March 06, 2009, 04:46:43 PM
Chill dude, nobody said you did.  I said, "...if you...", not, "...when you...".
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Pas on March 06, 2009, 09:59:35 PM
Natalie Portman is not successful, really ?   :yabbse-huh:
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: polkablues on March 06, 2009, 10:34:25 PM
Yeah, last I heard she was giving handjobs on the street for sandwiches.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: private witt on March 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Dane Cook is a successful comedian.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Stefen on March 07, 2009, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: private witt on March 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Dane Cook is a successful comedian.

haha, fuck outta here. NatPo has been nominated for an Academy Award (and deserved the nod). She's worked with some of the best filmmakers in the game. The Dane Cook equivalent of an actress would be someone like Jessica Biel.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 07, 2009, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: Stefen on March 07, 2009, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: private witt on March 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Dane Cook is a successful comedian.

haha, fuck outta here. NatPo has been nominated for an Academy Award (and deserved the nod). She's worked with some of the best filmmakers in the game. The Dane Cook equivalent of an actress would be someone like Jessica Biel.
For once....you're wrong stefen...Biel is not the equivalent of Dane Cook....Alba is.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 07, 2009, 10:07:50 PM
but on the other hand Cook has turned in decent performances.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Stefen on March 07, 2009, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on March 07, 2009, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: Stefen on March 07, 2009, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: private witt on March 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Dane Cook is a successful comedian.

haha, fuck outta here. NatPo has been nominated for an Academy Award (and deserved the nod). She's worked with some of the best filmmakers in the game. The Dane Cook equivalent of an actress would be someone like Jessica Biel.
For once....you're wrong stefen...Biel is not the equivalent of Dane Cook....Alba is.

What's the difference? Last name? That's it. Literally.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: private witt on March 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Dane Cook is a successful comedian.

Financially successful and good for him, but he isn't respected in the comedian world. I've heard comedians say that.

Natalie Portman is respected, but I still consider her an amateur actor. She refuses to do roles that are outside of her direct experience. It kept her from playing a nun because she couldn't imagine how they could live the way they do. She's good at what she does, but she is very limited.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Stefen on March 08, 2009, 12:14:06 AM
Quote from: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: private witt on March 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Dane Cook is a successful comedian.

Financially successful and good for him, but he isn't respected in the comedian world. I've heard comedians say that.

Natalie Portman is respected, but I still consider her an amateur actor. She refuses to do roles that are outside of her direct experience. It kept her from playing a nun because she couldn't imagine how they could live the way they do. She's good at what she does, but she is very limited.

That's wack. So because she didn't play a nun she's limited? Her roles have been different each time out. It's not like she's doing rom com's.

If anything, criticize how she picks her scripts -- not her roles.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: Stefen on March 08, 2009, 12:14:06 AM
Quote from: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: private witt on March 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Dane Cook is a successful comedian.

Financially successful and good for him, but he isn't respected in the comedian world. I've heard comedians say that.

Natalie Portman is respected, but I still consider her an amateur actor. She refuses to do roles that are outside of her direct experience. It kept her from playing a nun because she couldn't imagine how they could live the way they do. She's good at what she does, but she is very limited.

That's wack. So because she didn't play a nun she's limited? Her roles have been different each time out. It's not like she's doing rom com's.

If anything, criticize how she picks her scripts -- not her roles.

She respected the script (I think the film in question was Doubt), but she couldn't understand playing a role where the character never had sex so she passed on it for that reason. It's the same reason in Anywhere But Here she forced producers to change a mild sex scene to just a hugging scene. At the time it was out of her experience. But she's also the first to admit she never had training to become an actor and approaches scripts differently than others.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: john on March 08, 2009, 01:02:36 AM
Quote from: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 12:18:36 AM
It's the same reason in Anywhere But Here she forced producers to change a mild sex scene to just a hugging scene.

That really deflates a bit of the respect I had for her. Not that Anywhere But Here has the consideration of being some sort of artistic triumph, but no film should be manipulated by the intentions of the actor. Really... who the fuck does she think she is? She is a tool, a shade of paint for the picture, she has no reason to manipulate any aspect of the film like that.

Obviously she's not the only actress to be egocentric enough to pull shit like this, but it's always more maddening when someone who is young and (presumably) embracing artistic adventure doesn't know any better than to stay the fuck out of the creative process.

I like Portman alright... but any respect given to her is either being carried over from Leon, or just comparative to the shallow pool of actresses that make up her age group. She definitely has the formidable ability to be a great actress... maybe she just needs to learn to shut the fuck up and do her job.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Stefen on March 08, 2009, 01:33:10 AM
GT, you're the only person who will knock NatPo for not doing a movie when she was 16 or 17 because it had a sex scene, but then applaud someone like Jessica Biel for doing a movie about Adam Sandler and Kevin James pretending to be gay for the benefits with something silly like, "Most actresses wouldn't take that role. Biel should be on the forefront of every great filmmakers casting list because of bravery."

If Portman didn't want to take a role that had a sex scene because she didn't want to be an actress being used for her sex appeal, then good for her. I have no idea how that could be a knock on her.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 03:33:43 AM
Quote from: Stefen on March 08, 2009, 01:33:10 AM
GT, you're the only person who will knock NatPo for not doing a movie when she was 16 or 17 because it had a sex scene, but then applaud someone like Jessica Biel for doing a movie about Adam Sandler and Kevin James pretending to be gay for the benefits with something silly like, "Most actresses wouldn't take that role. Biel should be on the forefront of every great filmmakers casting list because of bravery."

If Portman didn't want to take a role that had a sex scene because she didn't want to be an actress being used for her sex appeal, then good for her. I have no idea how that could be a knock on her.

First off, shut the fuck up about that Jessica Biel spiel. You may actually convince people I said anything near that.

Second, she did Anywhere But Here and that isn't too big a concern for me. Her parents were also involved in the decision making of that so it wasn't just her being a diva. I didn't want to even imply it was. What I want to get across is that she, as an actress, will refuse to do roles just based on whether or not she has directly experienced it. She refused the nun role just because she couldn't imagine how to play someone who doesn't have sex. It was her admitting to not having the imagination to step outside the box of what has and hasn't happened in her life. Yes, she's stepped out of her life with roles in The Professional and Closer, but it's still the excuse she used. It just shows incompetency for her as an actress.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Stefen on March 08, 2009, 05:41:15 AM
It was Anywhere But Here. You act like she refused to take her clothes off for Bertolucci or something. She was nominated for an Academy Award for playing a stripper for Nichols. I doubt her refusing to do a sex scene in Anywhere But Here is because she's an incompetent actress or because she's an amateur. Her roles suggest she's not afraid to play something "edgy"

TAKE IT BACK!! TAKE IT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!! ALL OF IT!!!  :yabbse-angry:



Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: Stefen on March 08, 2009, 05:41:15 AM
It was Anywhere But Here. You act like she refused to take her clothes off for Bertolucci or something. She was nominated for an Academy Award for playing a stripper for Nichols. I doubt her refusing to do a sex scene in Anywhere But Here is because she's an incompetent actress or because she's an amateur. Her roles suggest she's not afraid to play something "edgy"

TAKE IT BACK!! TAKE IT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!! ALL OF IT!!!  :yabbse-angry:





A-M-A-T-E-U-R.....I'm still more concerned about the nun role. I don't care about the Anywhere But Here situation. The scene wouldnt have required nudity, but she was still really young at the time.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 08, 2009, 11:28:20 AM
Its good to see GT discussing something so ridiculous.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 08, 2009, 11:31:48 AM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on March 08, 2009, 11:28:20 AM
Its good to see GT discussing something so ridiculous.

The credentials of whether Natalie Portman is a professional or amateur is ridiculous? I'm getting a little goofy with Stefen, but I do believe she is an actress who is very limited in what roles she can do. She has a natural charm to the way she carries herself and only does roles that allow her to show it. She reminds me of Audrey Hepburn in that fashion. Both actresses made huge impressions on screen, but they never distanced themselves much from the core of their personality.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: Pas on March 21, 2009, 07:17:56 AM
the Role Models kid Bobbe J. Thompson played in 30 Rock and was fucking awesome again. This kid has monster potential... monster
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 21, 2009, 10:49:50 AM
He does but he could be typecast as the foulmouth kid for the next year or so.
Title: Re: Does Dakota Fanning piss you off? (child actor discussion)
Post by: private witt on March 29, 2009, 06:30:00 AM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on March 07, 2009, 10:07:50 PM
but on the other hand Cook has turned in decent performances.

LOL, NO HE HAS FUCKING NOT!!!!!!