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..really bad stereotypes....are  most southerners in film are depicted as racist /rednecks/stupid......that is far from the truth and when used in films its a generic technique to "dramatize" point/plot developement in these  films...


cliches  that tend to get bothersome ..are. "the cool/laughable/comic relief..stoners... and......trailers for  "chick flicks"..that .show the whole film in a condensed versions complete w/awful pop song twards the end of the trailer...

there are more for both catagories but can't think of them now..

Personally, I hate when characters flat out say "I love you."  I think the best writers are able to convey that emotion through action and subtext.

Quote from: chainsmoking insomniacPersonally, I hate when characters flat out say "I love you."  I think the best writers are able to convey that emotion through action and subtext.

..good point.i agree w/you..they tend to say this right when the score hits the high notes.and it detracks from the scene...b/c its so overused.. and cheesy..this is also bad if the film is great .then BAM!!!-..they drop the "i love you " line.. :arrow:  :roll:

I hate the stereotype wher all the people who go to the gym and where sweatpants have boners.

It's not really true... in fact, it's pretty hard to get boner while lifting weights

Quote from: RegularKarateI hate the stereotype wher all the people who go to the gym and where sweatpants have boners.

It's not really true... in fact, it's pretty hard to get boner while lifting weights

???


stop pretending you don't see my pm's, rk. i'm sorry, OK? it was ONE night of infidelity, i had to get it out of my system. you can't pretend like a person isn't there just because they wronged you. we have to talk about it. talk is the only thing that will get us through these rough times. and i know we can make it through because i... because... i love you

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stop pretending you don't see my pm's, rk. i'm sorry, OK? it was ONE night of infidelity, i had to get it out of my system. you can't pretend like a person isn't there just because they wronged you. we have to talk about it. talk is the only thing that will get us through these rough times. and i know we can make it through because i... because... i love you

not bad..get james vander beek and...fredie prinze jr.  to play the two leads and score the scene w/music from avril lavinge ...and get McG to direct and you got a winner....

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stop pretending you don't see my pm's, rk. i'm sorry, OK? it was ONE night of infidelity, i had to get it out of my system. you can't pretend like a person isn't there just because they wronged you. we have to talk about it. talk is the only thing that will get us through these rough times. and i know we can make it through because i... because... i love you

Dude, all your PMs say are "Buddy Holly love you long time"... I don't really get it, but you've been sending them for years and it's about time you explained.

Quote from: RegularKarateI hate the stereotype wher all the people who go to the gym and where sweatpants have boners.

It's not really true... in fact, it's pretty hard to get boner while lifting weights

not if your doing deadlifts

Chainsmoking insomniac wrote:

QuotePersonally, I hate when characters flat out say "I love you." I think the best writers are able to convey that emotion through action and subtext.

Here's an exception that proves your rule, perhaps:

The wonderful car scene in "Say Anything," in which Lloyd bravely blurts out to Diane, "I love you," just before she breaks up with him and gives him a pen.

Magical, true stuff.

Other than that, though, you're right on target.

Quote from: Find Your MagaliChainsmoking insomniac wrote:

QuotePersonally, I hate when characters flat out say "I love you." I think the best writers are able to convey that emotion through action and subtext.

Here's an exception that proves your rule, perhaps:

The wonderful car scene in "Say Anything," in which Lloyd bravely blurts out to Diane, "I love you," just before she breaks up with him and gives him a pen.

Magical, true stuff.

Other than that, though, you're right on target.

another exception. another cameron crowe film.

almost famous

when penny lane is drugged up and patrick fugit's character says "i love you" and then the paramedics come and pump her stomach.

now that's magic.

i think there's something like that in vanilla sky, but i was on acid when i saw that movie so, you know.

Okay, maybe Say Anything is the exception, because that scene wasn't sugar-coated.

I  think the scene mentioned in Almost Famous isn't as good though.

Ever notice Judges in films and TV Shows are almost always played by black people? I think that is an example of Hollywood trying to overcompensate for casting blacks in such stereotypical roles for so many years.

Quote from: chainsmoking insomniacI  think the scene mentioned in Almost Famous isn't as good though.

yea, fair enough

Quote from: 1976Ever notice Judges in films and TV Shows are almost always played by black people? I think that is an example of Hollywood trying to overcompensate for casting blacks in such stereotypical roles for so many years.

And the judges always have to be humans, what the hell?  I bet people don't know about Justice Mr. Cuddlyface IV.

I saw some website with movie cliches categorized, so anything I add would probably be redundant.

Quote from: NEON MERCURY..really bad stereotypes....are  most southerners in film are depicted as racist /rednecks/stupid......that is far from the truth and when used in films its a generic technique to "dramatize" point/plot developement in these  films...
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ive never lived in the south been there a lot byt to be honest mostlly miami, so im no expert

but thats why i loved ohh brother where are though and hated run ronnie run

ohh brother had heart, clooney is from kentucky and turtorio is a research god, and the brothers they showed the proper respect the south like any place should get

now run ronnie run is not a southern pic per say, but it was filled with such bad cliches of what a mullethead/burnout is

you can tell bob and dave did no real research except for look at people on the street with disdainan and shit on their way of life because they are not as " hip as they are

well thats why run ronnie run went straight to basic cable  in croatia mind you not the stuff they pay for just the basic channels that you pick up when you plug your tv into the wall

living in the south, i can say that it does gets stereotyped quite a bit in movies and all other forms of media a like. i was thinking about movies that take place in the south and they're usually period pieces- midnight in the garden of good and evil and forrest gump come to mind. let me ask ppl who've never been to the south- is this where u draw ur perceptions of it, from movies like this? it seems like most movies that take place in any town usa r really taking place sumwhere up north or out west.

u get the whole 'the south is 5 years behind the north' and i can say that its not really true. i mean sure if ur out in bumble fuck in towns where the entire population is less than the # of members on xixax, that's one thing. there r towns like that everywhere tho. point being, the south is just as swinging and bustling as any other place, especially if ur near a city like atlanta where i am. plus the chicks r much hotter in the south.

Quote from: ©bradliving in the south, i can say that it does gets stereotyped quite a bit in movies and all other forms of media a like. i was thinking about movies that take place in the south and they're usually period pieces- midnight in the garden of good and evil and forrest gump come to mind. let me ask ppl who've never been to the south- is this where u draw ur perceptions of it, from movies like this? it seems like most movies that take place in any town usa r really taking place sumwhere up north or out west.

u get the whole 'the south is 5 years behind the north' and i can say that its not really true. i mean sure if ur out in bumble fuck in towns where the entire population is less than the # of members on xixax, that's one thing. there r towns like that everywhere tho. point being, the south is just as swinging and bustling as any other place, especially if ur near a city like atlanta where i am. plus the chicks r much hotter in the south.

listen p.c hippy commies like to say things like that but let me ask you this

is the govener of new york a liberal hippy p.c freak No he is a republican

outside of west hollywood is california a hippy dippy place, no its mostlly a republican place, go to orange county then in a few months ask arnie his opinion

their is so called rednecks in california and new york

i would lable a hard core italian guy from bensonhurst as having all the same traights that p.c freaks hate , or dito a black guy from bed stuy

they hate all the same stuff that p.c freaks love

so all that bull about the south being backwords is bullshit, its  just that all we here about is places like soho in new york or hollywood in california

i lived in california most of my life, in the burbs

but some spots in california  are more redneck ish then deep alabama, ever drive to vegas ???????? those towns are scarey

so fuck people who put down the south, because the people they are insulting are the real people of the world who have the real power

Run Ronnie Run was rejected by Bob and David... they hated it and didn't even want it to get released... didn't think it was up to par, but it got released on video anyway, just because the studios were pissed they spent money on it.

Also, David Cross was born and raised in the south, so there wasn't too much "research" that needed to be done.

I agree though that the stereotypes of the south are getting old, though.

As a white man who has lived in both the Deep South and Northeast over the past 15 years, my observation is that race relations are much better and more comfortable in the South than they are in the Northeast these days.

And, no, most movies don't reflect that.

Yeah... that's not true at all... Racism is much stronger and more violent in the south...

the stereotype is certainly wrong and it's not like EVERYONE in the south is racist or NO ONE in the Northeast is racist.

Quote from: RegularKarateYeah... that's not true at all... Racism is much stronger and more violent in the south...

maybe. i dunno, i think its the same everywhere u go. perhaps its just more outspoken in the south.

sunglasses are the most cliched symbols of "cool" ever, but people won't stop wearing them in movies.

....there has to be a whole lot more of these but right of the topm of my head what's becoming/already/always been a bad cliche is during a good film a bad cheesy line(other than the 'i love yous'. or body language or  menuever or action done by the character in question..Case in point..The two Towers :during an amazing battle sequence legolas goes sliding on his shield or what -not..I tmakes you "damn that was stupid to put intheir"..kind of like the feeling when watching Gangs of New York..and the moment you see cameron diaz you feel the seriousness of the picture slide down.but still in GONY  it managed to reddem itself indeffinately.....but the Two Towers Thing is cliched ....others films have something like that also but i canot think of them now.

Quote from: RegularKarateYeah... that's not true at all... Racism is much stronger and more violent in the south... .

ever been to bensonherst New york  where they call black people nigers to their faces like its not even close to being offensive

everybody knows theres equal racism all over the planet

Quote from: Cecil B. Dementedeverybody knows theres equal racism all over the planet

yep everybody hates everyone, so thats why racism is a touchy situation

i know for a fact if the roles were reveresed and blacks ran america they would treat whites the way we treat blacks

and every fucking country has a beef with itself and with other countrys

name one country that does not have cival beefs

northern italions look down on southern itlalions, meanwhile rednecks look at both groups as being the same

and black people frm africa many times look down on black people from america

and the biggest snobs i have ever met have been gay, but the p.c police dont talk about that

but the trick is to not read life from books ( jeremy blackman im talking to you)  , but to see it for yourself

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Quote from: Cecil B. Dementedeverybody knows theres equal racism all over the planet

yep everybody hates everyone, so thats why racism is a touchy situation

i know for a fact if the roles were reveresed and blacks ran america they would treat whites the way we treat blacks

and every fucking country has a beef with itself and with other countrys

name one country that does not have cival beefs

northern italions look down on southern itlalions, meanwhile rednecks look at both groups as being the same

and black people frm africa many times look down on black people from america

and the biggest snobs i have ever met have been gay, but the p.c police dont talk about that

Truer words were never spoken. Thank God there are a few people whose eyes are open.

I Heart 'Pants.

Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesname one country that does not have cival beefs

South Africa.

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Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesname one country that does not have cival beefs

South Africa.

go there and see for yourself, before you pontificate

while there have un protected sex a lot

What about Robert Altman's depiction of rich people in Dallas in Dr. T and the Woman??? was that accurate?? i know it was funny...

well i sure know a ton of women like that in south carolina, especially in the more ritzy parts. i'd imagine its very similar to dallas.

*Whenever the setting is in the Carribean or the like, a Bob Marley tune will always play on the soundtrack.

*Whenever characters visit Mexico, it's always when a Dia De Los Muertos parade is going on.

*During cars chases, a fruit stand, a pane of glass carried by two guys or trash cans will be run into/over.

*Whenever characters say, "I'll never do that!", there will always be a CUT TO: the character doing that.

*Whenever a character knocks someone out and takes their clothes, they always fit perfectly.

*A tough guy will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.

*All bombs have large red readouts so you know exactly when they're going to go off.

*Whenever a character is being chased and frantically has to open the door or start the car, she/he will always drop the keys.

*Whenever a character is in war and shows someone a picture of his sweetheart back home, he will die.

Quote from: MacGuffin*Whenever characters visit Mexico, it's always when a Dia De Los Muertos parade is going on.

hahah. true.

Quote from: MacGuffin*Whenever a character knocks someone out and takes their clothes, they always fit perfectly.

A great example of why Die Hard is so great.

Quote from: MacGuffin*A tough guy will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.

:lol:

I hate it when people get e-mail and the message is in big letters that fill up the entire computer screen with some sort of colorful background so the audience will be able to read it.

Computers don't make a noise whenever you type or click something.

Quote from: RaviComputers don't make a noise whenever you type or click something.

Shit, I gotta get a new computer.

yeah, what? keyboards can make hella noise.

What computers don't do is shine a blue light in everybody's faces.

Quote from: WithnailWhat computers don't do is shine a blue light in everybody's faces.

could you re-type that in a darker font please.  my goddamn monitor is so bright with this glowing blue i can hardly read it.

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Quote from: WithnailWhat computers don't do is shine a blue light in everybody's faces.

could you re-type that in a darker font please.  my goddamn monitor is so bright with this glowing blue i can hardly read it.

Could you re-type that in a darker font please. My goddamn monitor is is so bright with his glowing blue light, I can hardly read the sarcasm.

*When characters in movies type on computers or typewriters, they always have to read what they're typing out loud.

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Quote from: Jeremy Blackman

Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesname one country that does not have cival beefs

South Africa.

go there and see for yourself, before you pontificate

while there have un protected sex a lot

good gawd, how can anybody not miss this humor!!?!

I really think this guy should be unbanned. Could we have some kinda Xixax pardon, after this long period of time?

Well that came right outta left field...

obsessive compulsive disorders. (do real ppl even have these?, or is it some made up hollywood disease)

Quote from: SoNowThengood gawd, how can anybody not miss this humor!!?!

I really think this guy should be unbanned. Could we have some kinda Xixax pardon, after this long period of time?

what are u, his lawyer?

get over it.

* whenever there is a threesome  a fire alarm goes off

* during the typical "sodomizing someone w/ a handfull of cheereos scene" the score turns new wave-ish

* at all times when a person rips out another persons heart they stick a pencil in it

*when scens take place in south dakota the lights dim down

thats all i can remeber right now........

HAHAHAHA ! Neon is on fire

Quote from: NEON MERCURY* whenever there is a threesome  a fire alarm goes off

* during the typical "sodomizing someone w/ a handfull of cheereos scene" the score turns new wave-ish

* at all times when a person rips out another persons heart they stick a pencil in it

*when scens take place in south dakota the lights dim down

All horribly overused.

no one in the movies/tv uses the "mouse" when using a computer, everyone does everything by typing on their keyboards...

always been a pet peeve of mine...

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I said in my very brief review of Secret Window and will say again, the multiple personality idea is played out.

40 Things That Only Happen In Movies
Source: nostalgiacentral.com

1. It is always possible to find a parking spot directly outside or opposite the building you are visiting.
2. When paying for a taxi, don't look at your wallet as you take out a note. Just grab one out at random and hand it over. It will always be the exact fare.
3. Television news bulletins usually contain a story that affects you personally at the precise moment it's aired.
4. Creepy music (or satanic chanting) coming from a graveyard should always be closely investigated.
5. Any lock can be picked with a credit card or paperclip in seconds. UNLESS it's the door to a burning building with a child inside.
6. If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps.
7. All bombs are fitted with electronic timing devices with large red digital displays so you know exactly when they are going to explode.
8. Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be necessary to learn to speak German. Simply speaking English with a German accent will do. Similarly, when they are alone, all German soldiers prefer to speak English to each other.
9. Once applied, lipstick will never rub off. Even while scuba diving.
10. The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window of any building in Paris.
11. Any police officer about to retire from the force will more often than not die on their last day (especially if their family have planned a party). (Caveat: Detectives can only solve a case after they have been suspended from duty).
12. Getaway cars never start first go. But all cop cars do. (They will also slide to a dramatic stop in the midst of a crime scene).
13. If staying in a haunted house, women should investigate any strange noises wearing their most revealing underwear.
14. On a police stake-out, the action will only ever take place when food is being consumed and scalding hot coffees are perched precariously on the dashboard.
15. All grocery shopping involves the purchase of French loaves which will be placed in open brown paper bags (Caveat: when said bags break, only fruit will spill out).
16. Cars never need fuel (unless they're involved in a pursuit).
17. If you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts, your opponents will wait patiently to attack you one by one by dancing around you in a threatening manner until you have defeated their predecessor.
18. If a microphone is turned on it will immediately feedback.
19. Guns are like disposable razors. If you run out of bullets, just throw the gun away. you will always find another one.
20. All single women have a cat.
21. Cars will explode instantly when struck by a single bullet.
22. No matter how savagely a spaceship is attacked, its internal gravity system is never damaged.
23. If being chased through a city you can usually take cover in a passing St Patrick's Day parade - at any time of the year.
24. The ventilation system of any building is the perfect hiding place. Nobody will ever think of looking for you in there and you can travel to any other part of the building undetected.
25. You will survive any battle in any war UNLESS you show someone a picture of your sweetheart back home.
26. Prostitutes always look like Julia Roberts or Jamie Lee Curtis. They have expensive clothes and nice apartments but no pimps. They are friendly with the shopkeepers in their neighbourhood who don't mind at all what the girl does for a living.
27. A single match is usually sufficient to light up a room the size of a football stadium.
28. It is not necessary to say "Hello" or "Goodbye" when beginning a telephone conversation. A disconnected call can always be restored by frantically beating the cradle and saying "Hello? Hello?" repeatedly.
29. One man shooting at 20 men has a better chance of killing them all than 20 men firing at once (it's called Stallone's Law).
30. When you turn out the light to go to bed, everything in you room will still be visible, just slightly bluish. 
31. Plain or even ugly girls can become movie star pretty simply by removing their glasses and rearranging their hair.
32. Rather than wasting bullets, megalomaniacs prefer to kill their enemies with complicated devices incorporating fuses, pulleys, deadly gases, lasers and man-eating sharks.
33. All beds have special L-shaped sheets that reach to armpit level on a woman but only up to the waist of the man lying beside her.
34. Anyone can land a 747 as long as there is someone in the control tower to talk you down.
35. During all police investigations it will be necessary to visit a strip club at least once.
36. You can always find a chainsaw when you need one.
37. Most musical instruments (especially wind instruments and accordions) can be played without moving your fingers.
38. In Middle America, all gas station attendants have red handkerchiefs hanging out of their back pockets.
39. All teen house parties have one of every stereotypical subculture present (even people who aren't liked and would never get invited to parties).
40. Trucks use their horns at random (no hang on, that happens in real life too!).

ok so I can't even think of the movies where this has happened but I"m certain it's happened a few times...
a pretty girl goes target shooting at the shooting range, and the the target looks like an assailant, and she fires, bam bam bam, and every shot is a CROTCH SHOT!

Couldn't find an appropriate thread (looked up "movies suck" in search and got no good results), but here is a decent article on 5 Hollywood secrets why movies suck. It's from cracked.com and they explain why studios continue to re-use the cliches we hate. There are other reasons, but the article is interesting.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19012_5-hollywood-secrets-that-explain-why-so-many-movies-suck.html

So THAT'S why Pixar is making Cars 2. To sell a bunch of toys.

no one ever finishes their weed or their fucking cigarettes!! save for the dude in big lebowski, everyone takes like one puff from that shit and they're done. .

Good guys who don't want to kill the security guard or whoever, so they knock him unconscious by hitting him in the back of the head with the butt of a gun, and then the security guard stays unconscious for however long the good guy needs to accomplish his task.  If you hit someone in the back of the head with a gun, they go unconscious, and are still unconscious after a minute or so, CALL A GODDAMNED AMBULANCE.  You have just crossed the line between "good guy who will do whatever it takes to get shit done" and "murderer of innocent poor person who was just trying to keep a roof over his kids' heads."  Best case scenario, he lives and has to deal with life-long debilitating repercussions of brain trauma.

He will not, however, wake up 30-45 minutes later with a minor headache and grogginess and then be fine.

"You look like shit."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlonv3yJCL4

HA! I like when fat Brando says it, it's like "really Marlon?"

"YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DO YOU"

http://vimeo.com/24669583

Quote from: cronopio 2 on June 07, 2011, 01:14:11 PM
"YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DO YOU"

http://vimeo.com/24669583

Very nice. I particularly like the Dead Ringers moment, in which he is of course literally reading from a cliched script.

Whenever someone gets shot and are frantically looking for a doctor, that doctor will turn out to be a vet.

Quote from: MacGuffin on November 15, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Whenever someone gets shot and are frantically looking for a doctor, that doctor will turn out to be a vet.

Yikes, you're right. This happened in the current season of Walking Dead, in a major way. (SPOILERS)

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A female character's secret pregnancy is revealed after having to awkwardly refuse an offer of alcohol at a party/restaurant/wedding.  This one's been cropping up a lot lately, it seems.  The good news is that apparently societal awareness of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome has reached critical mass.