I haven't seen the 1984 version (I hear it's ok) but it occurs to me that Kurbick could probably have done a great film out of the book. It's theme (the stifling of the human spirit) seem to be in the same vein as his other work.
I never thought of the connection, but you're absolutely right about Kubrik. If only
I am not a fan of 1984 the book, but still feel that Kubrick could have done something really cool with it. Just as long as it is creepy.
Have any of you seen the British film version of 1984? Its pretty good...very true to the novel, in almost every aspect. I guess you could even say its Kubrickian -- although I think the ending wouldn't have jived with Kubrick, unless he did it as a black comedy -- which is territory Gilliam already covered.
As far as Orwell goes, 1984 is very good but I'm more of an Animal Farm fan, and as far as dystopic future literature goes, I like Brave New World a teensy bit more.
Quote from: GhostboyHave any of you seen the British film version of 1984?
Yes, I remember seeing it in the cinema, and a couple of times after, and I've always enjoyed it. I have a feeling that its strength is in John Hurt and Richard Burton, though, and I think it must probably look pretty tame now cause even at the time it wasn't incredibly powerful.
I read a few things where people were reflecting on the book lately and I felt that while everyone was discussing whether we'd fulfilled Orwell's predictions in the year itself, it's really only now that it's starting to come truly true, as it were. I think 1984 was probably the beginning. So maybe it's time for a remake, and I'd love to see Fincher do it actually. I guess other things are covering the ground, though - Minority Report, and that thing with... um, can't remember... about emotions being banned.
Quote from: budgieI guess other things are covering the ground, though - Minority Report, and that thing with... um, can't remember... about emotions being banned.
Are you thinking about "Equilibrium" with Christian Bale?
That was a pretty cool movie. Not great, but good.
That's funny because when I read 1984 I was visualizing everything as Kubrick would have done it. Not intentionally, that's just how it showed up in my head. The interrogation scene (4=5) felt a lot like the (I guess you would call it the) brainwash sequence of Clockwork Orange. Which I feel like watching right now.
Yes, and imagine how powerful he could make the part where the woman (sorry, it's been a long time since I've read it. Winston's love interest) throws aside her celibacyy sash thing.
oh yes, no doubt about it kubrick would have made a very good film with this. but after "brazil," i think it wouldnt of been such a necessary film to make. after all, you must consider that if kubrick had done "1984," one of his present films would not have been made.
"Brazil" is my favorite movie ever. :(
Bonanzataz - Me too. When I first read it I thought it was very Kubrickian.
Quote from: tremoloslothYes, and imagine how powerful he could make the part where the woman (sorry, it's been a long time since I've read it. Winston's love interest) throws aside her celibacyy sash thing.
Julia. And can you imagine how fucking rad the sex scenes would have been!?
Quote from: cecil b. dementedoh yes, no doubt about it kubrick would have made a very good film with this. but after "brazil," i think it wouldnt of been such a necessary film to make. after all, you must consider that if kubrick had done "1984," one of his present films would not have been made.
I would trade A Clockwork Orange for 1984
Quote from: tremoloslothI would trade A Clockwork Orange for 1984
thats because youre crazy
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I would trade A Clockwork Orange for 1984
Thats doublethinking
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: budgieI guess other things are covering the ground, though - Minority Report, and that thing with... um, can't remember... about emotions being banned.
Are you thinking about "Equilibrium" with Christian Bale?
Yes, that's the one. I keep seeing the trailer and it makes me think people don't know what to do with Christian Bale. But then I don't think I'd know what to do with him either.
Quote from: cecil b. dementedQuote from: tremoloslothI would trade A Clockwork Orange for 1984
thats because youre crazy
"That is because you crazy. It has no feelings. And the new one is much better."
I would trade it for Clockwork Orange too I think.
I don't know if I could make the trade - 1984 is much stronger as a literary work than Clockwork Orange. Clockwork Orange I think gave Kubrick a lot more to work with that suited his artsy side better. Though I would die to see a Kubrick 1984. I did like the English film adaptation, I thought it captured the book's essence a lot. Surprisingly good.
1984 was too dull and lacked character development to me.
Quote from: Pedro the WombatQuote from: cecil b. dementedQuote from: tremoloslothI would trade A Clockwork Orange for 1984
thats because youre crazy
"That is because you crazy. It has no feelings. And the new one is much better."
I would trade it for Clockwork Orange too I think.
IMO, ACO is an untouchable masterpiece, not only I wouldn't trade it for anything, I hope nobody makes the ridiculous attempt of doing a remake, we have Lolita to prove that.
In the words of David Lynch: (Regarding the remake of Lolita) Why ruining a perfect film?
They should remake A Clockwork Orange with Jim Carrey as Alex :roll: Also, it would be a musical.
This was, like, my first thread ever on Xixax. :(
I writing a paper on A Clockwork Orange. :(
Quote from: Pedro the WombatQuote from: cecil b. dementedQuote from: tremoloslothI would trade A Clockwork Orange for 1984
thats because youre crazy
"That is because you crazy. It has no feelings. And the new one is much better."
I would trade it for Clockwork Orange too I think.
What's that quote from?
i don't know about the quote but
1984 .is a kick ass bowie song from diamond dogs.....
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeThey should remake A Clockwork Orange with Jim Carrey as Alex :roll: Also, it would be a musical.
Mmm...Jim Carrey in a musical....
Quote from: Chest RockwellQuote from: ShanghaiOrangeThey should remake A Clockwork Orange with Jim Carrey as Alex :roll: Also, it would be a musical.
Mmm...Jim Carrey in a musical....
it would be funny if Jim Carrey was alex, but i think he would ruin the whole movie by turning it into a scary harcore movie into some kind of funny movie
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