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Non-Film Discussion => Xix & Xax => Topic started by: Banky on November 25, 2003, 07:26:17 PM

Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on November 25, 2003, 07:26:17 PM
Any Admin want to give a detailed explanation of all the changes?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ©brad on November 25, 2003, 07:29:46 PM
cleaner, fresher, and void of any threads started by acjj.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on November 25, 2003, 07:30:31 PM
i think we deserve better explanation than that
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: MacGuffin on November 25, 2003, 07:55:00 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.ent4.yimg.com%2Fmovies.yahoo.com%2Fimages%2Fhv%2Fphoto%2Fmovie_pix%2Fwarner_brothers%2Fthe_matrix__reloaded%2Fkeanu_reeves%2Fmatrix9.jpg&hash=90276c24fbd07dff7215156d2568ca0ba913ab45)

The first Idle Chatter we designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime, a triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to us now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus we redesigned it, based on it's history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of it's nature.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: picolas on November 25, 2003, 07:56:49 PM
polls. the problem was polls.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: molly on November 25, 2003, 08:00:27 PM
most of the brainstorming comes from idle chatting
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Pedro on November 25, 2003, 08:01:50 PM
best avatar yet, picolas

i think the threads were getting a bit riddiculously pointless...hey, it's idle chatter, but a lot was just unnecessary.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on November 25, 2003, 08:04:16 PM
Quote from: Pedro el Fascolomisi think the threads were getting a bit riddiculously pointless...hey, it's idle chatter, but a lot was just unnecessary.

That's what made it good, IMO.  People need to vent their ridiculousness somewhere...woould you rather it happened in Now Playing?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: aclockworkjj on November 25, 2003, 08:05:05 PM
Quote from: ©bradcleaner, fresher, and void of any threads started by acjj.
that's a fuckin' great attitude.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: cine on November 25, 2003, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Walrus, KookookajoobThat's what made it good, IMO.
I think it was putting a big stain on the site as a whole.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: SHAFTR on November 25, 2003, 08:25:59 PM
Idle Chatter allows for our personalities to show more than any other forum.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 25, 2003, 08:33:34 PM
Notice that no one's post count went down.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Finn on November 25, 2003, 08:39:27 PM
Well, it's back and I'm glad.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Ravi on November 25, 2003, 09:19:28 PM
A lot of the clutter consisted of the "Ask _________" threads.  The only one of those I found interesting was "Ask Gold Trumpet."
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Sleuth on November 25, 2003, 09:20:36 PM
I didn't think it was necessary, but it doesn't matter now anyway.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Pubrick on November 25, 2003, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.ent4.yimg.com%2Fmovies.yahoo.com%2Fimages%2Fhv%2Fphoto%2Fmovie_pix%2Fwarner_brothers%2Fthe_matrix__reloaded%2Fkeanu_reeves%2Fmatrix9.jpg&hash=90276c24fbd07dff7215156d2568ca0ba913ab45)

The first Idle Chatter we designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime, a triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to us now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus we redesigned it, based on it's history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of it's nature.
that's the best explanation there is.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Duck Sauce on November 25, 2003, 09:29:36 PM
Good move, IC was getting out of hand.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on November 25, 2003, 09:30:47 PM
Quote from: Duck Saucegetting out of hand.

I always took you for a blowjob man...
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on November 25, 2003, 09:49:02 PM
why the hell does the location of idle chatter keep changing on the site>?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on November 25, 2003, 09:50:01 PM
I pondered that myself.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on November 25, 2003, 09:50:53 PM
great av walrus btw
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on November 25, 2003, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: Bankygreat av walrus btw

Always been a fan of yours.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: neatahwanta on November 26, 2003, 10:03:02 AM
This board can be described by the word ghey.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: (kelvin) on November 26, 2003, 10:24:40 AM
I am or was certainly not a frequent poster to the Idle Chatter forum, but nonetheless the completely undemocratic and elitist behaviour of the admins surprises me.
I am aware of the fact that there has to be some "thought police" preserving a minimum of verbal cleanliness on this site, but, for instance, an "official" statement or announcement on behalf of these changes would certainly have been approved.
I know this site is not intended to be democratic, that there are certain people who run this site and those who don't like this policy are not obliged to visit this site anymore, however this autocratic and bullying attitude is somehow annoying.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Ghostboy on November 26, 2003, 10:27:46 AM
Not really. I explained its absence in a thread that remained locked but viewable, all the way until the forum was revamped. It was never our intention to remove it completely...in fact, it was originally going to be down only for a matter of hours, but non-messageboard duties got in the way.

Anyway, it's back, so post away.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: (kelvin) on November 26, 2003, 10:33:05 AM
Quote from: GhostboyNot really. I explained its absence in a thread that remained locked but viewable, all the way until the forum was revamped. It was never our intention to remove it completely...in fact, it was originally going to be down only for a matter of hours, but non-messageboard duties got in the way.

Anyway, it's back, so post away.

Well, I am sorry if I haven't seen this thread and complained about the lack of an "official" statement. However, my other complaints remain. Is there any explanation why almost the entire forum had to be deleted? There were some popular threads dear to a lot of users, I would say.

I don't know...I'd call it an ugly solution fo an ugly problem.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Pubrick on November 26, 2003, 10:36:38 AM
i'm sorry, would u like ur money back?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Raikus on November 26, 2003, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: GhostboyNot really. I explained its absence in a thread that remained locked but viewable, all the way until the forum was revamped. It was never our intention to remove it completely...in fact, it was originally going to be down only for a matter of hours, but non-messageboard duties got in the way.

Anyway, it's back, so post away.
Alot of what chriskelvin said rings true with me as well. And while I like and trust you as an admin, there are others I don't, especially getting rid of Idle Chatter is blatently used as a threat. As SHAFTR said, Idle Chatter is the best forum to express the views that open our personality up to others. It's the best way to get a feeling of the type of person behind the handle.

I do believe your intentions with Idle Chatter were never to remove it completely, but I certainly feel others are taking the "elitist" approach and using it as a threat. As shown by the "Use it... wisely" subtitle on the bottom.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: (kelvin) on November 26, 2003, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: Pi'm sorry, would u like ur money back?

I never understood your aggressiveness towards other members.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Pedro on November 26, 2003, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: chriskelvin
Quote from: Pi'm sorry, would u like ur money back?

I never understood your aggressiveness towards other members.
sometimes he's just sarcastic
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: MacGuffin on November 26, 2003, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: chriskelvinhowever this autocratic and bullying attitude is somehow annoying.

We haven't set any 'rules & regulations' in order since Idle Chatter was brought back, and don't intend to. No one is stopping anyone from creating new threads here and expressing themselves. But, collectively, the admins felt what we did was in order to better the site. As JB pointed out, no post counts dropped, so no threads were deleted. If you'd like an old Idle Chatter thread moved, PM one of us, as GT did.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: (kelvin) on November 26, 2003, 10:49:05 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: chriskelvinhowever this autocratic and bullying attitude is somehow annoying.

We haven't set any 'rules & regulations' in order since Idle Chatter was brought back, and don't intend to. No one is stopping anyone from creating new threads here and expressing themselves. But, collectively, the admins felt what we did was in order to better the site. As JB pointed out, no post counts dropped, so no threads were deleted. If you'd like an old Idle Chatter thread moved, PM one of us, as GT did.


Sounds reasonable. Maybe there is just some communicational problem between "common users" and admins.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: coffeebeetle on November 26, 2003, 12:19:35 PM
Quote from: Pedro el Fascolomis
Quote from: chriskelvin
Quote from: Pi'm sorry, would u like ur money back?

I never understood your aggressiveness towards other members.
sometimes he's just sarcastic

Yeah, and that clearly carries over on the Internet.  :?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Pubrick on November 26, 2003, 12:29:57 PM
most ppl don't hav a problem with it.

i've never had a problem with it.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: meatball on November 26, 2003, 01:25:26 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.ent4.yimg.com%2Fmovies.yahoo.com%2Fimages%2Fhv%2Fphoto%2Fmovie_pix%2Fwarner_brothers%2Fthe_matrix__reloaded%2Fkeanu_reeves%2Fmatrix9.jpg&hash=90276c24fbd07dff7215156d2568ca0ba913ab45)

The first Idle Chatter we designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime, a triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to us now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus we redesigned it, based on it's history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of it's nature.

Thank you for the laughs this caused me.  :)
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: neatahwanta on November 26, 2003, 01:44:43 PM
Quote from: coffeebeetle
Quote from: Pedro el Fascolomis
Quote from: chriskelvin
Quote from: Pi'm sorry, would u like ur money back?

I never understood your aggressiveness towards other members.
sometimes he's just sarcastic

Yeah, and that clearly carries over on the Internet.  :?

Actually, as you get to know P aka Pubrick, you'll get the sarcasm immediately.

And I want my money back.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ©brad on November 26, 2003, 02:00:48 PM
Quote from: chriskelvinWell, I am sorry if I haven't seen this thread and complained about the lack of an "official" statement. However, my other complaints remain. Is there any explanation why almost the entire forum had to be deleted? There were some popular threads dear to a lot of users, I would say.

I don't know...I'd call it an ugly solution fo an ugly problem.

yes it was an ugly problem. however, starting all over was the best and only solution.

idle chatter was flooded w/ what was more or less spam. so many threads of just two or three members giving eachother head. it was dumb.

this is not the main reason though. idle chatter is back. rock on.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: aclockworkjj on November 26, 2003, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: ©bradthis is not the main reason though.
I dunno why you guys aren't just honest???...sorry, if i am outta line here...but idle chatter was locked cause of me saying something factual about the P-stain (at least that triggered it) that may have made him look bad to others, first it got deleted and then locked completely.  Some entire threads were deleted, cause apparently the only shitty things that can be said should be directed my way.  And honestly, i don't think the admins knew what was the best solution.  Starting over was a good idea.  Seriously...it was flooded with shit (i am guilty of it, but not the lone offender, just probably the biggest)...regardless, the admins are not being pricks about it, if you want a thread back, I am sure all you have to do is ask ...as long as you aren't named jj, you should feel free to post whatever you like.  it's only been a day...but everyone is walking on eggshells, i can tell.  no need to, so knock it off...cause idle chatter rocks!
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on November 26, 2003, 03:50:01 PM
I don't expect that post to be up long.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: MacGuffin on November 26, 2003, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: Walrus, KookookajoobI don't expect that post to be up long.

Your non-expectation will never be met.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: molly on November 26, 2003, 04:25:51 PM
can we just idly chat, without targeting each other's weaknesses? Just to cause pain equal to the one we feel...because nothing good will come out of that.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on November 26, 2003, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Walrus, KookookajoobI don't expect that post to be up long.

Your non-expectation will never be met.

Then more respect for you rolls your way from me.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on November 26, 2003, 05:51:15 PM
..I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving Eve... :kiss:

and if your a vegetarian or you jusy don't like turkey.enjoy the "soy" substitute... :wink:

cheers.... :drinking:
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2003, 06:13:39 PM
well, all i have to say is this:

no idle chatter or eggshells?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Reinhold on November 26, 2003, 06:14:40 PM
that was me. forgot to login.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Gamblour. on November 26, 2003, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY..I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving Eve... :kiss:

and if your a vegetarian or you jusy don't like turkey.enjoy the "soy" substitute... :wink:

cheers.... :drinking:

Tofurkey!
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Reinhold on November 26, 2003, 11:54:11 PM
God bless Taxi Driver... when DeNiro could act and when Cybill Shepherd was hot.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on November 27, 2003, 10:06:12 AM
God Bless your avatar, Andrew.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Kev Hoffman on November 27, 2003, 10:52:21 PM
I think the drama caused by the 'idle chatter' temporary removal is worth removing it alone.  Arguing over something as ridiculous as this is just plain fun.  To watch.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: aclockworkjj on November 27, 2003, 11:12:21 PM
Quote from: Kev Hoffmanthis is just plain fun.  To watch.
haha...russ feingold av?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Kev Hoffman on November 27, 2003, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: aclockworkjj
Quote from: Kev Hoffmanthis is just plain fun.  To watch.
haha...russ feingold av?

not anymore.  but yet, it was.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on December 03, 2003, 08:13:43 AM
whats the significance of the new title "all filler"
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Pubrick on December 03, 2003, 08:25:02 AM
i don't know. it's funny tho. i guess it's saying the forum is not really about anything, which is what filler means. that's my interpretation.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on December 03, 2003, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: Bankywhats the significance of the new title "all filler"

This is the Seinfeld of forums... I can hear the cheesy slap bass guitar now...
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on December 05, 2003, 05:20:48 PM
why the NEW NAME!
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Gamblour. on December 05, 2003, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickI can hear the cheesy slap bass guitar now...

Them's fightin' words...

I think the new title is demeaning. But then I thought whoever wrote it must be an 80's/Breakfast Club fan. Or just insecure. Then, I realized it's funny.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Xixax on December 05, 2003, 06:20:45 PM
Quote from: Gamblor the Manwhorewhoever wrote it must be an 80's/Breakfast Club fan. Or just insecure.
Geez, Manwhore. You nailed me again.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Gamblour. on December 05, 2003, 10:43:06 PM
Quote from: XIXAX
Quote from: Gamblor the Manwhorewhoever wrote it must be an 80's/Breakfast Club fan. Or just insecure.
Geez, Manwhore. You nailed me again.

Oh god, I yearn for the day when that will be literal...
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Xixax on December 06, 2003, 10:33:19 AM
Time for my cold shower. This place always brings out my inner homoeroticism.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: aclockworkjj on December 06, 2003, 11:52:19 AM
Quote from: XIXAXTime for my cold shower. This place always brings out my inner homoeroticism.
Well...I have GDIDM in my anus!!!!  How homoerotic is that?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Reinhold on December 06, 2003, 12:10:34 PM
personally, i like the new "small talk..." title.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: molly on December 06, 2003, 12:23:18 PM
Quote from: Walrus, Kookookajoob
Quote from: Pedro el Fascolomisi think the threads were getting a bit riddiculously pointless...hey, it's idle chatter, but a lot was just unnecessary.

That's what made it good, IMO.  People need to vent their ridiculousness somewhere...woould you rather it happened in Now Playing?

You are underestimating ridiculousness. Best ideas come to mind when you are idly chatting with your friend, or dishwashing.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 06, 2003, 07:22:29 PM
On this fateful day, aclockworkjj has been banned.

This is an issue we've been dealing with for months. After much introspection, countless admin debates, and private dialogue with aclockworkjj (including warnings), we came to this decision.

His method was to make friends and enemies, attempting to split this place into factions, as did Pantalones before him. He conducted campaigns of ass-kissing (especially toward us admins) while conducting campaigns of personal hatred and corrosive disrespect. We believe he was dragging Xixax down into a place it never should have gone, a place it doesn't want to go.

Everything we held sacred has been victim to perversion by aclockworkjj at one time or another, and we strongly believe Xixax is better without him.

Let me make it clear that this is not some kind of ominous warning. We've done this because we value what we have and don't want to lose it. This decision was not made in spite of other members, but for the sake of other members.

Now it's time to come back together. It starts today.


- the administration

cbrad
Ghostboy
Jeremy Blackman
MacGuffin
mogwai
P
picolas
RegularKarate
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on December 06, 2003, 07:31:26 PM
Being that he is the person i am closes to on this board i do not know what to say.

I just want everyone to know that this place meant a lot to him.  I have had several off XIXAX conversations with him and he really liked it here and most everyone here.

I think that you guys handeled it wrong and it should not have come to this.

I dont want to start lashing out so, well i dont know.....................
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Moment of Zen on December 06, 2003, 07:34:21 PM
Today's the day we celebrate the slaying of the lamb
the laughter of the children as they eat the christmas ham
the ceasing of the cycle of the gods that bless and damn
the joyful revolution for extinction of the spam
judicious liberation of the astral traffic jam
the cleaning of the cloak before the physical exam
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on December 06, 2003, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: Moment of ZenToday's the day we celebrate the slaying of the lamb
the laughter of the children as they eat the christmas ham
the ceasing of the cycle of the gods that bless and damn
the joyful revolution for extinction of the spam
judicious liberation of the astral traffic jam
the cleaning of the cloak before the physical exam


get out of here with that fucking bull shit
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: freakerdude on December 06, 2003, 08:04:45 PM
The short time I have been here, I have only seen the good side of acjj. I liked him a lot and responded to many of his posts, and he responded to mine.

I can't say I know anything about what's going on so I'll just leave it at that.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Moment of Zen on December 06, 2003, 08:36:17 PM
the citrus in the stomach churning acids to and fro
the soft anticipation of the bladder for its flow
the stinging indigestion with its monsters down below
the complicated fusion of the quiet status quo
the shaking of the forehead of the surgeon of the beaux
the skillful amputation of a gangrenated toe
the lingering of feeling in appendage fading slow
the calming of the waters as they polinate and grow
the cushions of the furniture within the old bordeaux
the feeding of the infants from the teet of melting snow
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Gamblour. on December 06, 2003, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Moment of Zenthe citrus in the stomach churning acids to and fro
the soft anticipation of the bladder for its flow
the stinging indigestion with its monsters down below
the complicated fusion of the quiet status quo
the shaking of the forehead of the surgeon of the beaux
the skillful amputation of a gangrenated toe
the lingering of feeling in appendage fading slow
the calming of the waters as they polinate and grow
the cushions of the furniture within the old bordeaux
the feeding of the infants from the teet of melting snow

the rambling of those who'd like to think they're the next Poe

lol sorry, had to. Anyway, wtf?
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: SHAFTR on December 06, 2003, 08:40:38 PM
Although I did like aclockworkjj, I do see your point.  He is on my AOL list so I will continue to talk to him.  I obviously didn't agree with everything he posted, and sometimes it did seem like he was trying to start a fight.  I'm not angry or am I happy.

Although I think he is the only one on here who follows the Wisconsin Badgers.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Moment of Zen on December 06, 2003, 08:48:40 PM
the fast imagination of a patient dog in heat
the clumsy composition of a short symphonic suite
the faithful inhilation of a winter weather sleet
the tragical confusion of which things I should excrete
the misinterpretation of the tenderness of meat
the quick exchange of white bread for the kind that's made of wheat
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Banky on December 06, 2003, 09:55:50 PM
i guess im the only one that dosent agree here?

an admin needs to change the name of this thread because many will not know about JJ ban if it is in this thread
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: freakerdude on December 06, 2003, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: Bankyi guess im the only one that dosent agree here?

an admin needs to change the name of this thread because many will not know about JJ ban if it is in this thread
I'm with you on this, as in my post up above a few. Like I said, I don't know the situation like you guys or the admins do. He'd be the only one on here besides me at 3 to 4am every night. I'd like to see it rescinded but I have zero clout here.

A portion of this thread posted under a different topic so others will know is a good idea.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: Reinhold on December 06, 2003, 10:20:55 PM
bye.
Title: Idle Chatter Explanation?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on December 07, 2003, 09:01:09 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanOn this fateful day, aclockworkjj has been banned.


....well i thought i ought to chime in since the "other thread" was locked and i have been gone for a while.....also eveyone else has been saying their 2 cennts.....and here unnder the the free speech admennnment which Michael Moore, JJ, I(NEON), Xixax adminnn's, and regulars uphold......and i thought it  would create much nnneeded irony to add the Michael Moore reference sinnce ..it was possibly the final nail in the coffin for JJ's bannnnishment on the that thread the TCG Mooooooooo started......and who doesnn't love IRONNY????????????????????????????????????????.......

alright......i  personally like JJ.....he and slobh were the first to welcome  me to this board back in may......so YES ...I FFEEL BAD THAT HE IS GONE/BANNNNED......but i donnn't think the admoins are a strict regime or annything so...WHAT THEY DID MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE BEST INNTERESTS OF XIXAX.......

that is all.....