The Xixax Dekapenticon
XIXAX CHOOSES THE 15 BEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME
Xixax will create a list (based on the idea explained here (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=4264&start=0)) of the 15 best movies ever made.
It's time to vote!
From the 50 nominations, you're choosing 10. These votes will count for the final list of 15.
RULES
you must pick exactly 10 movies
the 10 movies must all come from the list we have provided
they must be numbered in order of bestness. 1 being the bestest, 10 being the least best
once a vote is submitted, there will be no changes granted
anyone can vote (doesn't matter whether you voted in the first round)
do not display your votes publicly (yet)
use full titles ("Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring" instead of "LOTR: FOTR")
if there have been remakes or movies of the same title, please specify the year
in the case of foreign films, please use the most common title
don't put "the" before anything
If your username begins begins with A-I (or a #), send your ballot to Ghostboy (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=104)
If your username begins begins with J-Q, send your ballot to Jeremy Blackman (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=21)
If your username begins begins with R-Z, send your ballot to RegularKarate (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=63)
Please put "10 best" in the subject line.
VOTES WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL JANUARY1
Have any questions about the voting process? Ask them here.
the nominations
2001: A Space Odyssey
400 Blows
8 1/2
Adaptation
Amelie
Annie Hall
Apocolypse Now
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich
Big Lebowski
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Casino
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane
Clockwork Orange, A
Do the Right Thing
Donnie Darko
Dr. Strangelove
Elephant Man
Empire Strikes Back
Eyes Wide Shut
Fargo
Fight Club
Godfather
Godfather part II
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Goodfellas
Jackie Brown
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia
Matrix
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream
Royal Tennenbaums
Rushmore
Seven Samurai
Shawshank Redemption
Shining
Singin' in the Rain
Taxi Driver
Vertigo
How is the ballot going to be created? Is it gonna be the top 30 movies nominated that we vote for to get down to 15?
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaHow is the ballot going to be created? Is it gonna be the top 30 movies nominated that we vote for to get down to 15?
The final ballot would have 50 choices (decided by these nomination votes). You would pick 10 and rank them in order of bestness. We'd take 15 out of that.
Also, for the alphabetical thing, do you want English or Foreign language titles. For example:
Amelie
versus
Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le
And is it Hard Eight or Sydney? :-D
And for 25th Hour, would you like it under T, or above A ('cause it's a number).
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaAlso, for the alphabetical thing, do you want English or Foreign language titles. For example:
Amelie
versus
Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le
Whatever the most common name is. We'll do our best to figure it out when there's a conflict, though.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaAnd is it Hard Eight or Sydney? :-D
Hard Eight.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaAnd for 25th Hour, would you like it under T, or above A ('cause it's a number).
Above A. It's really not crucial that everything is perfect. It's not like your vote would be counted... it would just make it much easier for us. (oh... and if your username starts with a number, send it to Ghostboy).
What was decided? Is this favorites or best?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanXIXAX CHOOSES THE 15 BEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME
Well really, you can be as subjective as you want... so favorites is just fine.
Thank you both.
Those sending votes to me: I would appreciate it if you list movies starting with "The" like so "Movie, The".
This way I can copy your list and feed it directly into my automated vote counting mechanism (it runs on diesel)
With my name, would I be classified under T or G, considering RK is already implementing "The" to be put last with movie title nominations.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetWith my name, would I be classified under T or G, considering RK is already implementing "The" to be put last with movie title nominations.
Silly Trumpet. Your username starts with G. (well, ignore "the"). Good question, though.
I've got $20 that says Boogie Nights and Magnolia will be in the top 5...
I don't think Boogie will make it. I think Magnolia will cancel it out. I think a lot of people will choose one PTA film near the top of their list, but will also go for variety in their choices so may only pick one PTA film and just give that all the points they can give it. Thus I think Magnolia will dominate.
Movies that clearly will be on the list: Magnolia, 2001 and Pulp Fiction. Raging Bull may cancel out Taxi Driver, or vice versa. Same deal for the Godfather films and Apocalypse Now.
I'd be happy to see both Raging Bull and Taxi Driver at the top of the list, but I'd be definitely willing to bet on Magnolia, Taxi Driver, and Apocalypse all being there (as they should be).
It's going to be fascinating to see how the foreign films do --- Seven Samauri, Wings of Desire, Spirited Away, The Bicycle Thief, 8 1/2, Truffaut, Bergman, Godard, etc., etc.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: The Gold TrumpetWith my name, would I be classified under T or G, considering RK is already implementing "The" to be put last with movie title nominations.
Silly Trumpet. Your username starts with G. (well, ignore "the"). Good question, though.
what about me? i'm one word: "themodernage02".
Quote from: Find Your MagaliIt's going to be fascinating to see how the foreign films do --- Seven Samauri, Wings of Desire, Spirited Away, The Bicycle Thief, 8 1/2, Truffaut, Bergman, Godard, etc., etc.
hey! NO influencing the votes!
Quote from: themodernage02what about me? i'm one word: "themodernage02".
But your name really has three words in it, doesn't it? :wink:
As a general rule, ignore "the"...
will everyones ballots of nominations be posted after the voting is complete? it might be interesting (just as the sight and sound) to see who picked what movies for consideration to further illustrate the boards tastes/personalities.
Quote from: themodernage02will everyones ballots of nominations be posted after the voting is complete? it might be interesting (just as the sight and sound) to see who picked what movies for consideration to further illustrate the boards tastes/personalities.
No. It's confidential. They can post their ballots if they want, of course (after it's done).
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: themodernage02will everyones ballots of nominations be posted after the voting is complete?
No. It's confidential.
Especially since 3/4 of my votes went to porns... oops... i shouldn't have said that... :)
Also, just a note.
Before you submit your ballot, make sure you've got your title correct.
What I mean is a vote for "The Ghostbuster" does not count as a vote for "Ghostbusters".
There's a difference between "The Killer" and "The Killers".
Thank you
Quote from: Find Your MagaliIt's going to be fascinating to see how the foreign films do --- Seven Samauri, Wings of Desire, Spirited Away, The Bicycle Thief, 8 1/2, Truffaut, Bergman, Godard, etc., etc.
I bet none of those, besides maybe 8 1/2, make the list. With this in mind, what is the most unlikely film that could end up making the Top 15?
(also, let it be known, I have made no position on where I stand voting wise, I'm just guessing logistics to what will win all around.)
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI bet none of those, besides maybe 8 1/2, make the list. With this in mind, what is the most unlikely film that could end up making the Top 15?
From Justin to Kelly
The Real Cancun
Kangaroo Jack
Bringing Down the House
Deliver Us From Eva
That's from this year alone. And I'm sorry in advance if I influenced the votes. :-D
Quote from: RegularKarateThose sending votes to me: I would appreciate it if you list movies starting with "The" like so "Movie, The".
This way I can copy your list and feed it directly into my automated vote counting mechanism (it runs on diesel)
Quote from: RegularKarateAlso, just a note.
Before you submit your ballot, make sure you've got your title correct.
What I mean is a vote for "The Ghostbuster" does not count as a vote for "Ghostbusters".
There's a difference between "The Killer" and "The Killers".
Thank you
Boy, I'm sure glad JB is my homeroom teacher.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: RegularKarateThose sending votes to me: I would appreciate it if you list movies starting with "The" like so "Movie, The".
This way I can copy your list and feed it directly into my automated vote counting mechanism (it runs on diesel)
Quote from: RegularKarateAlso, just a note.
Before you submit your ballot, make sure you've got your title correct.
What I mean is a vote for "The Ghostbuster" does not count as a vote for "Ghostbusters".
There's a difference between "The Killer" and "The Killers".
Thank you
Boy, I'm sure glad JB is my homeroom teacher.
The first one is why I asked about my name and who to send it to. I was ready to send it to RK and then he listed his demands and I knew I'd likely fuck something up and get my ballot rejected or some deal. I'm glad Ghostboy is my homeroom teacher.
~rougerum
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetQuote from: Find Your MagaliIt's going to be fascinating to see how the foreign films do --- Seven Samauri, Wings of Desire, Spirited Away, The Bicycle Thief, 8 1/2, Truffaut, Bergman, Godard, etc., etc.
I bet none of those, besides maybe 8 1/2, make the list. With this in mind, what is the most unlikely film that could end up making the Top 15?
Wow, I'll be surprised if Seven Samauri doesn't make a good run at it. If you asked me to name the one foreign film that would have a real good shot at cracking a list done by the members of this board, that might be the one I'd pick. But what the hell do I know?
will godfather 1 & 2 be counted together like they did in sight & sound???
Please no.
Actually, I'm glad you brought that up, cos we should clear everything, yes?
As in, I think all LOTR should be classified as one movie. Also, Apocalypse Now Redux... should that be the same as the original, in terms of vote counting?
Any others anybody can think of?
Godfather I, II, and III are three separate movies. LOTR I, II, and III are three separate movies. That Star Wars shit is six separate movies. Apocalypse Now and Redux are different versions of the SAME MOVIE. Ditto for Cinema Paradiso and Nuovo Cinema Paradiso.
well, I disagree about LOTR. as with Kill Bill, I consider it one movie.
anyway, the three admins involved (and GT too, since it was his thing) should make some rules regarding these mentionables...
Quote from: xerxeswill godfather 1 & 2 be counted together like they did in sight & sound???
I'm tempted, but no. In many ways they're very different movies. They were released at different times.
I think the LOTR movies should absolutely be separate, especially because none of us has seen the third.
Redux is the same movie. Director's cuts are the same movie.
Kill Bill is one movie, though. Some books have two volumes, but it's still one book.
Admittedly, you bring up a good point. Kill Bill is supposed to be one movie. Sadly, it isn't. I'm coping. Really.
Godfather is three separate movies, because the original was envisioned as just that: one movie. But your good point is that LOTR is based on one source material (correct?). I mean, I don't give a fuck; I'm rather indifferent to that whole series. But that would make it a nine-plus hour movie. And while I don't want to give credence to that, there have been longer films considered one whole such as The Sorrow and the Pity, Shoah, Berlin Alexanderplatz (although a miniseries), and the Dekalogue (also more a miniseries) and that whole hundred-hour-long film I forget the name of. But I digress.
I will happily go along with what JB posted.
BUT, my reasons for treating LOTR as one is that it was conceived as one story, and published in 3 volumes. Now, Dickens published Great Expectations in many parts, but we still consider it one book. So, 'tis all I was trying to say...
but like I said, if the people want to treat it as three, I will acquiesce.
If Kill Bill (Vol 1 and 2) is considered one movie, then is it automatically exlcuded from voting this time around? See, I have it as two different movies and also think in lines with voting expectations this year, a lot of people will prolly be voting for Kill Bill. This may be a problem.
Reasons why I see it as two movies (taken from "Kill Bill: Volume 1" thread):
I do see Kill Bill (Vol. 1 and 2) as two separate movies. And I think the general public will too when they have gone dvd and everything is said and done. Why? Distance of release is close enough to follow the Matrix movies in that it is a quick sequel right after the film. Also, the dvd plan is to release both movies generally separately first. The general public will buy these versions. The box set of both volumes will likely be for fans like us more so.
This is also why I have been so critical of Volume 1 is because it does stand on its own. It is complete enough to be worthy of any other movie and so good it even surpasses most movies. It is also complete enough to have the general 3 acts and use them efficently. The ending to Volume 1 doesn't really suggest one movie cut in half, but two movies linked by a similiar storyline and a revelation. A revelation worthy of a serial in making you watch the following one. From everything QT has said, the movies will also be different in form, with Volume 1 utilizing all the action and Volume 2 more classic to Tarantino's earlier films. So I really don't see one film broken in half and really incomplete without its other half. A better example of that would Full Metal Jacket. The first part is only forty five minutes and so focused on one situation that with it ending, you feel you must be payed off with the actual war. The boot camp part is entertaining, but not fulfilling. The first part of Kill Bill is surely both. With that, I see Volume 2 more as a sequel. Or Just "Volume 2". Each film its own volume.
It doesn't matter right now if we split up Kill Bill. No one has seen Volume II.
Vote for "Kill Bill" or vote for "Kill Bill Volume I"... it will be counted.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanKill Bill is one movie, though.
You're accepting both volumes of Kill Bill as one movie, but also are accepting Volume 1 as one movie too when saying Kill Bill would count this year, how so?
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetYou're accepting both volumes of Kill Bill as one movie, but also are accepting Volume 1 as one movie too when saying Kill Bill would count this year, how so?
They
will be one movie. Right now Volume 1 has to represent the whole thing. It may be awkward, but it's our only choice.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI think the LOTR movies should absolutely be separate, especially because none of us has seen the third.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanThey will be one movie. Right now Volume 1 has to represent the whole thing. It may be awkward, but it's our only choice.
ok.
That's different, because as it stands... there's only one Kill Bill, but there are two LOTRs.
Alright. I'll accept. I still think it may need to be disqualified this year, though.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI still think it may need to be disqualified this year, though.
Well, it's not. So there.
We can revisit this at the next Dekapenticon.
I just want to throw in my two cents here even if its passed now and completely unneeded.
If the films were given separate theatrical release dates, they should count as separate films. Godfather films - clearly they're different films with separate release dates. Nobody should think that 1 & 2 can just go together because they look like they belong together. It's irrelevent here. Shoah was released as one movie, the Decalogue was released as one movie, etc. If these were split up, they should still be counted as separate films, but in those films' cases, they were not.
Quote from: CinephileI just want to throw in my two cents here even if its passed now and completely unneeded.
If the films were given separate theatrical release dates, they should count as separate films. Godfather films - clearly they're different films with separate release dates. Nobody should think that 1 & 2 can just go together because they look like they belong together. It's irrelevent here. Shoah was released as one movie, the Decalogue was released as one movie, etc. If these were split up, they should still be counted as separate films, but in those films' cases, they were not.
Precisely. I'm with Cinephile. ... I would vote for The Fellowship of the Ring as a magnificent standalone film. ... But I wouldn't put it on the list if I have to lump it with The Two Towers and I'm certainly not putting it on the list if I have to lump it with The Two Towers and a film that hasn't been released yet.
foreign film titles: original language or english?
ex: Le Fabulous (?) destin d'Amelie Poulain or Amelie?
hana-bi or fireworks?
and (has nothing to do with it):
Mulholland drive or mulholland Dr (imdb)
Quote from: rustinglassforeign film titles: original language or english?
ex: Le Fabulous (?) destin d'Amelie Poulain or Amelie?
hana-bi or fireworks?
and (has nothing to do with it):
Mulholland drive or mulholland Dr (imdb)
i say any title you want... the admins are very bright, i'm sure they can figure out what movie you're talking about
People should be reminded that years may be needed at the tail-end of a movie name.
For example, you wouldn't want King Kong of 1976 to get voted over King Kong of 1933.
That doesn't go for remakes either, some with the exact same title will have to be noted. One example I can think of: Jersey Girl of 1992 and Jersey Girl of 2004 (though this wouldn't come up, it's for demonstration purposes).
Quote from: rustinglassforeign film titles: original language or english?
ex: Le Fabulous (?) destin d'Amelie Poulain or Amelie?
hana-bi or fireworks?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: OnomatopoeiaAlso, for the alphabetical thing, do you want English or Foreign language titles. For example:
Amelie
versus
Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le
Whatever the most common name is. We'll do our best to figure it out when there's a conflict, though.
Will you publish a list of every nominated film also? Like, just so we know what was in there?
And a top fifteen directors based on the number of their films that were nominated?
Quote from: The Silver BulletWill you publish a list of every nominated film also? Like, just so we know what was in there?
Thats a good idea. I know I nominated a few films that may get the reaction of, "What the fuck?". I think a lot of people prolly did the same
QuoteAnd a top fifteen directors based on the number of their films that were nominated?
Another great idea. This list could go into effect right after the nominations and before the actual voting. I think this list also should be made.
or to ease up the workload on the administrators, create a thread where everyone who voted posts their own choices there.
Quote from: themodernage02or to ease up the workload on the administrators, create a thread where everyone who voted posts their own choices there.
Brilliant!
... but let's wait until the list of 50 has popped up. Otherwise people will be campaigning thier favorites and trying to change other's minds.
So far, based on the votes I've been keeping tally of, the 50 list might be a little surprising for some.
Quote from: RegularKarateQuote from: themodernage02or to ease up the workload on the administrators, create a thread where everyone who voted posts their own choices there.
Brilliant!
... but let's wait until the list of 50 has popped up. Otherwise people will be campaigning thier favorites and trying to change other's minds.
So far, based on the votes I've been keeping tally of, the 50 list might be a little surprising for some.
Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I do have a list of 30 right now, but I don't plan on submitting it until I've seen more of the so-called "great films." And I imagine that's the same with a lot of other people. Otherwise, it would be criminal, some of the films I'd've omitted from my list.
Nah, wouldn't be criminal. Remember that subjectivity isn't only allowed... it's encouraged!
:twisted:
And I don't think we need any 'so-far' nomination lists. We aren't basing our picks on other people's picks, are we?
How about we just wait until the deadline passes, people? Once it's done so, we'll get the list of directors, the top fifteen and the complete ballot. If people want to share their own top thirty from that point on, they're free to do so.
I'll shut it now.
Quote from: RegularKarateBrilliant! ... but let's wait until the list of 50 has popped up. Otherwise people will be campaigning thier favorites and trying to change other's minds. So far, based on the votes I've been keeping tally of, the 50 list might be a little surprising for some.
yeah, definitely wait until after the deadline, so no one can be influenced. i'm very curious to see what ends up on the first 50.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaWell, I don't know about everyone else, but I do have a list of 30 right now, but I don't plan on submitting it until I've seen more of the so-called "great films." And I imagine that's the same with a lot of other people. Otherwise, it would be criminal, some of the films I'd've omitted from my list.
i dunno, maybe. but its kind of a best favorites. and i doubt any movie i watch in the next couple weeks is gonna best evertything i've seen in the last 20 years to become one of my choices. remember, there's always next year. so it seems like people should pretty much know what their lists will be for the most part, unless there's a severe classic or two they have to check out first. there IS only a few weeks left right till the Dec. 1st deadline? how soon after will the 50 be posted?
We are now setting a deadline of December 1. Get your nominations in by then, and we should hopefully have the results soon after.
Tomorrow is the dealine.
Tomorrow.
hope everybody got their votes in. i'm interested to see what makes it on the big list. how long will people have to vote on those before the final is released?
I want everyone to know I'm gonna go on a wild killing rampage if The Conformist isn't on the top 50...
Considering I haven't even heard of The Conformist until now (a search on IMDb reveals it's a Bertolucci film; I liked Ultimo tango a parigi, so I should definitely check this out), the chances of that are probably slim. Still, though, I can't wait to see everyone else's picks, too. That should be just as interesting as the final list.
Compiling and sending in my entry made me feel like a real man.
Reading and replying to your post made me feel like a real man.
Quote from: SlobhCompiling and sending in my entry made me feel like a real man.
Picturing you as man makes me laugh real hard.
Threatening people with death in the absence of a Conformist vote makes me feel like a real man.
Quote from: RegularKarateQuote from: SlobhCompiling and sending in my entry made me feel like a real man.
Picturing you as man makes me laugh real hard.
I should let you know (SECRETLY!! SO NOBODY ELSE READ THIS I'M SERIOUS YOU GUYS) that I didn't compile or send in an entry.
It's not too late Trebh (this is the inevitable next name isn't it?), Just PM it on this way and make sure it's in alphabetical order and don't number it and don't put "the" in front unless it's "La" or "Das" then use that, but try to use the most common name and think about it, actually think about it, don't put the last fifteen movies you saw and liked and fuck up our list or I might kill you.
Quote from: SlobhCompiling and sending in my entry made me feel like a real man.
i wore a tweed jacket with sewn on elbow thingys and smoked a pipe while i did mine. i felt scholarly.
am i pathetic for looking forward to seeing peoples' lists?
Quote from: abuck1220am i pathetic for looking forward to seeing peoples' lists?
No, I wouldn't think so. I'm anxious to see who I'm compatible with :-D
But seriously, it'll be interesting for me because I think these lists will spit out a lot of unexpected diversity.
Il Conformista is a beautiful, wonderful movie. I sorta dislike the coda at the end, but I can stomach it.
Quote from: RegularKarateIt's not too late Trebh (this is the inevitable next name isn't it?), Just PM it on this way and make sure it's in alphabetical order and don't number it and don't put "the" in front unless it's "La" or "Das" then use that, but try to use the most common name and think about it, actually think about it, don't put the last fifteen movies you saw and liked and fuck up our list or I might kill you.
No, I can't possibly do this. I don't like listing to begin with, and this is just too much for me to do (though I am interested to see the outcome)
Quote from: SoNowThenI want everyone to know I'm gonna go on a wild killing rampage if The Conformist isn't on the top 50...
Haha, I bet it doesn't even make it. The film is recognizable to me, but I've never seen it.
is this where we should post our lists or what?
comon boys , count those ballots, i want to see some results
this is disappointing. i was expecting to get on here and see everybody's list. what's going on?
I don't really care to see what everyone voted for, but I'd like to see what films received votes.
i'd like to see either a complete list of the films voted for and the number of votes they received or just have everyone post their lists.
Quote from: Bankycomon boys , count those ballots, i want to see some results
It will have to be this evening at the earliest.
Besides, this is just round one, remember, after this, we all vote from the list we provide.
And I don't think it's a good idea to provide the number of votes, just the top 50 movies. From that list, we'll start to get to the real list.
I agree. Just an alphabetical list of the top 50 vote-getters should be provided. We don't want vote totals to influence (or infuriate) anyone at this point.
P.S. -- Yes, I'm still alive.
Quote from: RegularKarate
And I don't think it's a good idea to provide the number of votes, just the top 50 movies. From that list, we'll start to get to the real list.
Agreed
I would still like to see the full list of films voted for.
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI agree. Just an alphabetical list of the top 50 vote-getters should be provided. We don't want vote totals to influence (or infuriate) anyone at this point.
P.S. -- Yes, I'm still alive.
Agreed.
and glad to see you around!!
Quote from: SHAFTRQuote from: RegularKarate
And I don't think it's a good idea to provide the number of votes, just the top 50 movies. From that list, we'll start to get to the real list.
Agreed
I would still like to see the full list of films voted for.
me too. i thought the plan was for everyone to post their lists. is that now not allowed?
I think it kinda defeats the whole purpose.
Maybe after the thing is completely over, the 15 picked and all, then we could see who went for what... and PM each other with death threats... :-D
yeah after the whole thing is over. i agree there should be no notice of what received more votes to influence anyone in the first round here. so it might be up as soon as tonite?
Quote from: themodernage02so it might be up as soon as tonite?
Possibly, but only if there's a miraculous amount of coordination. We have a significant amount of the counting done and a pretty good idea of what the final 50 nominations list is going to look like. Patience.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: themodernage02so it might be up as soon as tonite?
Possibly, but only if there's a miraculous amount of coordination. We have a significant amount of the counting done and a pretty good idea of what the final 50 nominations list is going to look like. Patience.
I have to confess my extreme curiosity as to what this list is going to look like... I will try to be patient but, as Homer Simpson said after being informed that a meal will take 30 seconds to warm in the microwave: "Thirty seconds?!?! But I want it
now!"
I have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
that would be keeping with your current ratio of liking 1 out of every 2000 films you see.... :wink:
I don't think GT likes movies. :)
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
could you even think up 30 vote-worthy films for your list?
yeah all he sends out is negativity about films
I totally respect him. He seems like a very intelligent guy.
He just hates about every movie made today. :)
Hope I'm not offending you GT.
Quote from: abuck1220could you even think up 30 vote-worthy films for your list?
It was tough, but I accomplished it and was pretty diplomatic in the variety of movies I nominated. There's a recent movie I'm sure no one voted for and half the people here even disliked, but I voted for it. Of course, I can't say what it is right now.
Quote from: Bankyyeah all he sends out is negativity about films.
Only way to start discussion. Always seemed pointless to me to just agree with everyone else.
And gracias, kotte! no offense taken at all.
I like GT's discerning eye. As much as it frustrates me sometimes, I know that when he likes a movie, it'll at least be worth seeing.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
Well, that's all of PTA's films.
i hope this doesn't turn into a pta jack off fest, but i'm afraid it will.
i also hope that the list goes a little farther back in time than say, the imdb top 20 does.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
Well, that's all of PTA's films.
Maybe not. I've recently gone against Hard Eight, but hopefully thats not nominated. Boogie Nights and Magnolia have severe problems of foundation, but Boogie Nights is much worst, though I still like the film. Punch-Drunk Love holds up the best so far.
So, yea, three films that likely will be nominated that I'll like, but maybe not as enthusiastically as some may think or hope.
I'm just fighting the dread that I know, deep down inside, there's probably gonna be a Spielberg movie on the final 15 list...
Quote from: abuck1220i hope this doesn't turn into a pta jack off fest, but i'm afraid it will.
It will for the first couple of years, but as the site progresses and members come and go, I think that will be eradicated. I also think Magnolia may block Boogie Nights and Punch-Drunk Love because a lot of people will support the idea of variety and may only pick one PTA film.
People take dekapenticon really seriously (which is great)...I regret I've already sent mine in.
Quote from: SoNowThenI'm just fighting the dread that I know, deep down inside, there's probably gonna be a Spielberg movie on the final 15 list...
As there should be. I certainly hope a certain film of his is on that final list. You should be dreading the idea it is more likely for a Jean-Luc Godard film not to show up anywhere on the ballot of 50 films to pick from.
hehe "as there should be"...
if there's no Fellini or Godard, yeah, I'll probably have a little bitch-fest. However, I'm pretty sure JLG will at least make it onto the 50 list.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI also think Magnolia may block Boogie Nights and Punch-Drunk Love because a lot of people will support the idea of variety and may only pick one PTA film.
You mean in the final 15, right?
Quote from: SoNowThenhehe "as there should be"...
if there's no Fellini or Godard, yeah, I'll probably have a little bitch-fest. However, I'm pretty sure JLG will at least make it onto the 50 list.
I haven't seen enough Fellini or Godard to really appreciate their work. 8 1/2 felt like 8 1/2 hours. La dolce vita was bittersweet. Breathless didn't take my breath away. So yeah, I think some of what will make the ballot is the fact that some people have seen more films than others, and the more popular films are at an advantage.
And as for me, well, I think all of PTA's films are great, and they're hardly going to cancel each other out for my vote. Four great films are four great films despite who made them. Sometimes I'm quite snobby about what films I like. Others, I'm too mainstream. So that's why I'm especially interested in seeing what other people nominated. It really gives an insight into other people, and it helps one add to their "must-see" list as well.
Quote from: SoNowThenI like GT's discerning eye. As much as it frustrates me sometimes, I know that when he likes a movie, it'll at least be worth seeing.
I never read GT's posts, they're too big.
Quote from: Gamblor the ManwhoreI never read GT's posts, they're too big.
Quote from: about "SWAT", The Gold TrumpetFinally, a good action movie this summer.
~rougerum
Quoteand it helps one add to their "must-see" list as well.
that's why i'm anxious to see everybody's lists. i need some more recommendations.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: Gamblor the ManwhoreI never read GT's posts, they're too big.
Quote from: about "SWAT", The Gold TrumpetFinally, a good action movie this summer.
~rougerum
You're right. Even at that size, they're not worth reading.
GT, I'm just joking btw. That was a joke just was waiting to be made, I do enjoy your posts, you give good, thorough piece of mind that's actually intelligent, not always agreeable though.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: The Gold TrumpetI also think Magnolia may block Boogie Nights and Punch-Drunk Love because a lot of people will support the idea of variety and may only pick one PTA film.
You mean in the final 15, right?
Yea. I'm sure all three are in the top 50.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetQuote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: The Gold TrumpetI also think Magnolia may block Boogie Nights and Punch-Drunk Love because a lot of people will support the idea of variety and may only pick one PTA film.
You mean in the final 15, right?
Yea. I'm sure all three are in the top 50.
boo!!
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetYea. I'm sure all three are in the top 50.
You could say that.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
forget it. no point. *(nods head in agreement)
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
thats not really funny. its just kind of sad for you. you waste a lot of money watching movies you dont like or care about. if my success ratio for finding something enjoyable was as low as yours i probably wouldve given up watching movies altogether. like i said before, when did you stop going to enjoy them and start going to critique them? why do you feel like your tastes are so superior, that without having any idea whats on the list, ANY FUCKING IDEA, you have to go popping your mouth off about how you will PROBABLY not like most all of them? does that make you better than us? why are you telling us this?
Hey, that's the man I love, back off :evil:
Quote from: godardianI will try to be patient but, as Homer Simpson said after being informed that a meal will take 30 seconds to warm in the microwave: "Thirty seconds?!?! But I want it now!"
actually that's when Moe gets a deep fryer from the navy which he boasts can flash-fry a buffalo in 40 seconds. Homer then says, i want it now.
Quote from: SoNowThenthat would be keeping with your current ratio of liking 1 out of every 2000 films you see.... :wink:
that's not even true. ur confusing him with Pete.
Quote from: PQuote from: godardianI will try to be patient but, as Homer Simpson said after being informed that a meal will take 30 seconds to warm in the microwave: "Thirty seconds?!?! But I want it now!"
actually that's when Moe gets a deep fryer from the navy which he boasts can flash-fry a buffalo in 40 seconds. Homer then says, i want it now.
"I stand corrected." - Lisa Simpson.
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
thats not really funny. its just kind of sad for you. you waste a lot of money watching movies you dont like or care about. if my success ratio for finding something enjoyable was as low as yours i probably wouldve given up watching movies altogether. like i said before, when did you stop going to enjoy them and start going to critique them? why do you feel like your tastes are so superior, that without having any idea whats on the list, ANY FUCKING IDEA, you have to go popping your mouth off about how you will PROBABLY not like most all of them? does that make you better than us? why are you telling us this?
definantly
Quote from: SlobhQuote from: themodernage02Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
thats not really funny. its just kind of sad for you. you waste a lot of money watching movies you dont like or care about. if my success ratio for finding something enjoyable was as low as yours i probably wouldve given up watching movies altogether. like i said before, when did you stop going to enjoy them and start going to critique them? why do you feel like your tastes are so superior, that without having any idea whats on the list, ANY FUCKING IDEA, you have to go popping your mouth off about how you will PROBABLY not like most all of them? does that make you better than us? why are you telling us this?
Hey, that's the man I love, back off :evil:
I knew this shit would haunt me
i don't remember why i said that.
Quote from: Pi don't remember why i said that.
I was confused when you said it too, but do you want to no something (yes) I never forgot it
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have the strangest feeling I may like only 3 to 5 of the 50 films nominated. I kinda find that funny.
thats not really funny. its just kind of sad for you. you waste a lot of money watching movies you dont like or care about. if my success ratio for finding something enjoyable was as low as yours i probably wouldve given up watching movies altogether. like i said before, when did you stop going to enjoy them and start going to critique them? why do you feel like your tastes are so superior, that without having any idea whats on the list, ANY FUCKING IDEA, you have to go popping your mouth off about how you will PROBABLY not like most all of them? does that make you better than us? why are you telling us this?
OH gawd this is insane. What I said was a joke, but for the sake of replying because I know you and many others believe everything in this paragraph about me, here it goes:
I still enjoy movies, but I critique as well. Can a paragraph of writing convey all the feelings I felt for a film? No. Do you know me? No.
Never, ever have I said my tastes are superior to anyone else's. Considering the attitude of some people here, I'm quite good in being fair in arguments and prolly get the best feeling I can get here when other guys writing will say they disagree with me but still like me because I am fair with everyone.
And to repeat, what I said was a joke. I can take guesses to what will be on the final 50, but a person only into romantic comedies would likely also find maybe 3 to 5 movies on the top 50 list he'd actually like. A lot of people here look down on romantic comedies in comparison to dramas so what would the drama guys represent to that guy?
Last I checked, this is a movie discussion board and I have never got criticized of just slamming films to slam them, I am discussing them. My enjoyment of movies is not for here, but for me actually watching the movies. Oh, and to let you know something personally, I'm beginning filmming next month on my first short film. It won't be anything dramatic at all, but a mock porno. No nudity in the movie, but my friends and i have written a bunch of mock porno scenes and were going to be goofing people we known by having them as characters in the movie. See, if i ever make it big in anything, I'll say my first movie was a fucking mock porn with no interest to be anything else but that. For people who know me here, this may be against what is expected of me. Not to my friends at all. They know me as someone else and have followed me trying to get this project made for almost 2 years now.
So, next time you try to make comments on who i am, realize the limitations of doing that on a movie discussion board when I'm just really discussing the points of a movie and nothing else! Fuck.
PS. Gracias, Slobh. Must give thanks always to the people that back me.
yeah i think this GT attack is at least 8 months too late. he's a good fella.
anyway we all know the list is gonna suck, like all lists suck.
That attack was kinda outta nowhere. Don't think it needed to be said, and GT is not something/someone I would put on my list of "Things About Xixax That Need to be Complained About"
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetNo nudity.
suck.
only the revelation of the list will stop this madness.
Quote from: aclockworkjjQuote from: The Gold TrumpetNo nudity.
suck.
There's a story behind that. The original idea was to have it as males playing all the roles and give the lame excuse it was inspiration from the old Shakespearean system of males playing all the roles. What would come from this is the ugliest and most foul guy we know playing female lead and that would be funny.
Then we got girls volunteering to be in it and do, as they put it, "whatever was necessary" We got hopeful because some were very cute, but wouldn't you know, they were all under age. One guy was willing to drop his camera shyness and bone a girl on camera even! So we're thinking that with our newly acquired film equipment is that next summer we'll travel to some nearby college town and asks girls to drop clothes and say we are a junior version of "Girls Gone Wild" and we'll be big someday. We'll also buy the girls free drinks, of course.
Quote from: The Gold Trumpetsome nearby college town and asks girls to drop clothes
lemme know if you are in milwaukee....hehe, there are sum great
actresses there i could hook you up with.... :wink:
well, then apologies to everyone, but it sounded to me like GT's 'joke' was an attack on our intelligence. my response was done in defense, not offense. i dont dislike you gt, because i obviously dont know you. sometimes you just write things that just bug the shit out of me because of the tone of arrogance that i pick up in some of them. no attack, no feud. etc.
This thread has veered off topic, but I just want to put in my claim on the "defending GT" side. He's one of my favorite posters. Although him and I have differing opinions, I think that is what is important.
Quote from: SHAFTRThis thread has veered off topic, but I just want to put in my claim on the "defending GT" side. He's one of my favorite posters. Although him and I have differing opinions, I think that is what is important.
i know a way to get it back on topic -- reveal the list! stop the madness!
Quote from: SHAFTRThis thread has veered off topic, but I just want to put in my claim on the "defending GT" side. He's one of my favorite posters. Although him and I have differing opinions, I think that is what is important.
GT is one of my favorite posters, too.
Yet I understand modernage being put out by some of his posts.
I personally find that GT is never purposefully disruptive and does not intend disrespect. He has strong opinions and takes film seriously- good things to have around here.
GT:Critical Genius:NEON MERCURY: 8)
he just can't speak poper is all.
comon list LIST!
Quote from: Bankycomon list LIST!
Soon.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you THE LIST:
2001: A Space Odysee
400 Blows
8 1/2
Adaptation
Amelie
Annie Hall
Apocolypse Now
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich
Big Lebowski
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Casino
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane
Clockwork Orange, A
Do the Right Thing
Donnie Darko
Dr. Strangelove
Elephant Man
Empire Strikes Back
Eyes Wide Shut
Fargo
Fight Club
Godfather
Godfather part II
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Goodfellas
Jackie Brown
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia
Matrix
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream
Royal Tennenbaums
Rushmore
Seven Samurai
Shawshank Redemption
Shining
Singin' in the Rain
Taxi Driver
Vertigo
Pardon any typos... I was in a hurry
Anyway, there it is, if you didn't vote, I'd better not hear too much bitching from you.
EDIT: DO NOT VOTE YET
boo!
and i voted, so i can complain!
not bad...i can work with that.
So, 90-Present: 24
Foreign: 6
Before 1960: 5
Kubrick-Scorsese-Coen Brothers: 13
I found more then 3 films I liked, but kinda dissapointing balance. Not shocking, though.
thats a sweet.list.....alot of my choices are on their.....
i guess you guys really want to share my tastes..... :wink:
Biggest surprise: Spielberg shut out. :shock:
Wonder if it's because too many different movies got votes, or if folks just don't like him.
I like the list. You only choose 15 anyway. (NOT YET though.. we still have to completely figure out the final thing).
There are a few that made it in that I'm really happy about.
i learned two things:
1) about 48% of the greatest films ever were made post-1990
2) PTA is the greatest director ever
Quote from: Find Your MagaliBiggest surprise: Spielberg shut out. :shock:
Wonder if it's because too many different movies got votes, or if folks just don't like him.
I'm surprised too, and do think it is because he had way too many movies. The one I was hoping got nominated was just Schindler's List. Other surprises: Casino, Elephant Man, LOTR, My Life to Live (congrats SoNowThen) and The Shining.
Good list, good list. I see a lot of my picks on there. I'm very satisfied with the outcome. Thanks to the xixax royalty for taking the time to organize the list. :)
OK, here's a question........How many of your choices were nominated? I had 6 make it.
11 of my 30 nominees made the list.
It is disappointing to see the lack of older films.
Adaptation and Donnie Darko surprise me. Best films of all time? They aren't even the best films of their respected years.
EDIT: Also My Life to Live over Breathless surprised me.
Things to be thankful for: Barry Lyndon, Jackie Brown, Mulholland Drive.
I was surprised by a lot of things, but not surprised that this doesn't look like a routine 50 best list. That definitely worked the way it was supposed to.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetOK, here's a question........How many of your choices were nominated? I had 6 make it.
7...and i'm not surprised by any of them. i'm kinda disappointed some of my fringe choices weren't on there.
The list isn't as predictable as I'd feared. I see a fair enough number of my picks on there. I don't think I'll do too much complaining. I'll wait for the final 15 and see how that goes.
Quote from: SHAFTR
EDIT: Also My Life to Live over Breathless surprised me.
Same here.
Only 10 of mine made the list.
Altman didn't make the cut either. :(
Quote from: godardianThe list isn't as predictable as I'd feared. I see a fair enough number of my picks on there. I don't think I'll do too much complaining. I'll wait for the final 15 and see how that goes.
Yes, this is what I'm waiting to see.
I'm hoping for some Kubrick action in the #1 spot
Kubrick #1 would be swell. Hope that all the Kubrick titles don't split the vote...
Oh, man... I'm realizing that even though 15 of my original 30 aren't on the list of 50, I'm still going to have a hard time picking just 15. That's probably a good thing. Still... the metaphysical agony of choice (and exclusion) is wrenching.
I think Walrus is going to win the Xixax Dekapenticon
Quote from: godardianKubrick #1 would be swell. Hope that all the Kubrick titles don't split the vote...
Oh, man... I'm realizing that even though 15 of my original 30 aren't on the list of 50, I'm still going to have a hard time picking just 15. That's probably a good thing. Still... the metaphysical agony of choice (and exclusion) is wrenching.
Magnolia is the movie to beat. I'm thinking Kubrick will split the vote, but I'm guessing 2001 will still be in the top 3.
QuoteAltman didn't make the cut either.
that does suck. i should have thrown my vote behind a more popular altman film and maybe i could have helped his cause.
i had 9 make it (although i do own 42 of them). i'll be interested to see what the final 25(?) are. a little disappointed some of my big favorites didnt make it on/
shawshank :o &8)
dionnnnie darko. :o & :roll:
This list is really beautiful. I love the variety and it's great how many of mine made the list. I'm loving the fact that Spielberg got shut out, and that, well, we know PTA kicks ass, and yes, all the greatest films were made after 1990, despite what older critics would say.
And a whopping FOURTEEN of the films I picked were on the final list. And that's not counting Citizen Kane and Casablanca which I think are both great but didn't nominate because I knew they'd get in anyway.
Surprises for me are: Adaptation, Barry Lyndon, Barton Fink, Brazil, Casino, Empire Strikes Back, Godfather, Godfather part II, Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, Jackie Brown, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, Matrix, My Life to Live.
Jackie Brown is a pleasant surprise 'cause it really is a great movie. Doesn't get enough credit. The others I either haven't seen or are questionable, IMO. But that's not important.
So when can we post our nominations lists to share with everyone?
Quote from: Phe just can't speak poper is all.
it's not his yoppin' fault. right der hay, gt?
ps. good list. but, what the hell is my life to live? serious, i have never heard of it. help a brotha out...
Quote
So when can we post our nominations lists to share with everyone?
JB did you get my PM???????
Quote from: aclockworkjjps. good list. but, what the hell is my life to live? serious, i have never heard of it. help a brotha out...
A Godard film. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056663/
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaSo when can we post our nominations lists to share with everyone?
Not until it's all over.
You can start thinking of your top 15, though... which won't be too simple, because you'll have to rank them (not alphabetical).
Quote from: Onomatopoeiaand yes, all the greatest films were made after 1990, despite what older critics would say.
I think the list is more of a comment on how many films that we DON'T see. It isn't that the greatest films are made post 90, but it's that the demographic of this board are people who watched the majority of the films from the 90s.
Those older critics have decades more experience.
2 fucking spike jonze and NO spielberg is really rubbin me the wrong way. i mean, shit i saw both jonze films in the theatre and bought em and everything, but ALL TIME!? i can only imagine like others that the spielberg vote is all over the place since he has so many great films. cause that shit aint right!
Quote from: themodernage022 fucking spike jonze and NO spielberg is really rubbin me the wrong way.
can agree with that, i like ET... :(
fuck, i didn't vote. :::zips it:::
Quote from: themodernage022 fucking spike jonze and NO spielberg is really rubbin me the wrong way. i mean, shit i saw both jonze films in the theatre and bought em and everything, but ALL TIME!? i can only imagine like others that the spielberg vote is all over the place since he has so many great films. cause that shit aint right!
Well, I mean, PTA got in with three, and Kubrick got in, and Scorsese got in, and the Coen Brothers got in. That tells you something ain't right with Spielberg, because, well, none of his films are great enough to be "best ever." They're all "too-something." Too manipulative, too Peter-Pan, etc. But I can sympathize with the Jonze thing. He doesn't hold a candle to some of the other directors up there, so it's really shocking that two such admirable-yet-broken films got on the list.
Quote from: SHAFTRThose older critics have decades more experience.
Maybe so, but age doesn't equal wisdom. I've seen a lot of the "classics," but still have a LONG ways to go on my list to be caught up. But even with that cross-section of the ones deemed most important, it's just that the film industry is so incredibly evidently like the computer industry: progress is made so rapidly that older films just can't hold up to the innovations (not just technological), but in quality of writing and creativity of directing and cinematography and other filmic techniques.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaQuote from: themodernage022 fucking spike jonze and NO spielberg is really rubbin me the wrong way. i mean, shit i saw both jonze films in the theatre and bought em and everything, but ALL TIME!? i can only imagine like others that the spielberg vote is all over the place since he has so many great films. cause that shit aint right!
Well, I mean, PTA got in with three, and Kubrick got in, and Scorsese got in, and the Coen Brothers got in. That tells you something ain't right with Spielberg, because, well, none of his films are great enough to be "best ever." They're all "too-something." Too manipulative, too Peter-Pan, etc. But I can sympathize with the Jonze thing. He doesn't hold a candle to some of the other directors up there, so it's really shocking that two such admirable-yet-broken films got on the list.
well when you think of BEST EVER nnneither can PTA, or coens.....be on that list
Quote from: themodernage02i can only imagine like others that the spielberg vote is all over the place since he has so many great films.
Not really. Think Schindler's List.
Personally I think it's funny that he didn't make the list.
Not that Schindler's List isn't a great movie.
i didnt think Jaws was too Peter Pan, (although Hook may have been), but oh well. i've seen every movie on there except My Life To Live, which i hadnt even heard that much talk about on here except for a few mentions. there must've been some sort of campaigning going on! also upset that Billy Wilder didnt make the list. glad that Hard Eight didnt, cause c'mon we're not that psycho here. also of the directors forums we have here Cameron Crowe, Steven Soderbergh and apparently Steven Spielberg are the least deserving.
Quote from: Onomatopoeia
Quote from: SHAFTRThose older critics have decades more experience.
Maybe so, but age doesn't equal wisdom. I've seen a lot of the "classics," but still have a LONG ways to go on my list to be caught up. But even with that cross-section of the ones deemed most important, it's just that the film industry is so incredibly evidently like the computer industry: progress is made so rapidly that older films just can't hold up to the innovations (not just technological), but in quality of writing and creativity of directing and cinematography and other filmic techniques.
but they have seen films in progression, that makes a difference.
::typical ffannboy reactionnn:
It's Sidney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....nah, i agree w/ you also...
Quote from: themodernage02i didnt think Jaws was too Peter Pan, (although Hook may have been), but oh well.
Minority Report, A.I., E.T., and even Saving Private Ryan and Catch Me if You Can were, IMO.
Quote from: themodernage02i've seen every movie on there except My Life To Live, which i hadnt even heard that much talk about on here except for a few mentions. there must've been some sort of campaigning going on! also upset that Billy Wilder didnt make the list. glad that Hard Eight didnt, cause c'mon we're not that psycho here.
Yeah, this turn of events really makes me want to see My Life to Live.
(And I was rooting for Hard Eight to get up there, too -- shh, don't tell!) I like Billy Wilder, but Sunset Blvd. and Some Like it Hot were just too campy for me. A shame I forgot about Double Indemnity, though, when I was voting. But I have no clue if I'd be able to fit that one in anyway.
Quote from: themodernage02also of the directors forums we have here Cameron Crowe, Steven Soderbergh and apparently Steven Spielberg are the least deserving.
Agreed, except Soderbergh is often brilliant. He just has yet to make a film to truly blow anyone out of the water after sex, lies, and videotape.
Quote from: themodernage02Steven Soderbergh
It is disappointing that he didn't make it. But with him there really is vote splitting. I think I was the only person who voted for Full Frontal.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaA shame I forgot about Double Indemnity, though, when I was voting. But I have no clue if I'd be able to fit that one in anyway.
It wouldn't have made a difference.
Quote from: NEON MERCURY::typical ffannboy reactionnn:
It's Sidney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....nah, i agree w/ you also...
actually it's s
ydney. sum fanboy u are.
wait...can i still pick 15 of these shit ass loser picks you guys came up with? or did you have to vote to begin with? (sorry if it's been answered..)
I just remembered that SoNowThen was going to go on a rampage if The Conformist didn't make it. Maybe he can be relieved to know that My Life to Live did make the list and nothing from Speilberg at all.
Quote from: aclockworkjjwait...can i still pick 15 of these shit ass loser picks you guys came up with? or did you have to vote to begin with? (sorry if it's been answered..)
Translation: Can I still vote for "Amelie"?
so of all the ones we initiallly voted for, if in the 'final vote' our first votes arent all ones that we nominated, (as in 9 of my picks made the list, if my first 9 of my 15 'final votes' arent those movies) than i am a liar.
well.....sixteen of my choices are on that list.....
and .....P touche. :wink:
Quote from: NEON MERCURYwell.....sixteen of my choices are on that list.....
and .....P touche. :wink:
so your final list will be 15 of those 16 choices, correct? or will you be swayed by some of the more exotic choices of other boardmembers and neglect one of your own pics for something different?
Quote from: MacGuffinTranslation: Can I still vote for "Amelie"?
err...all 15 times?
wait, no, wait...1 for magnolia. 14 for amelie. there's my ballot. sorry it leaked out like a paris hilton sex tape.
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: NEON MERCURYwell.....sixteen of my choices are on that list.....
and .....P touche. :wink:
so your final list will be 15 of those 16 choices, correct? or will you be swayed by some of the more exotic choices of other boardmembers and neglect one of your own pics for something different?
i will most likely be swayed..b/c in retrospect their are some on that list that I forgot... :oops: ...
and i believe that is the fair way to do it also, ...gotta be fair and impartial to a degree....
I'm hoping the point system is implemented for the final ballot.
Quote from: NEON MERCURYQuote from: themodernage02Quote from: NEON MERCURYwell.....sixteen of my choices are on that list.....
and .....P touche. :wink:
so your final list will be 15 of those 16 choices, correct? or will you be swayed by some of the more exotic choices of other boardmembers and neglect one of your own pics for something different?
i will most likely be swayed..b/c in retrospect their are some on that list that I forgot... :oops: ...
and i believe that is the fair way to do it also, ...gotta be fair and impartial to a degree....
dont give in to peer pressure! i'd say stick with your favorites because otherwise its not opinions truly coming from the board its giving what you think will fit in. what isnt fair and impartial about that? its the ONLY impartial way to do it. i guess the only exception to this rule would be someone (like me) who only nominated one film per director. some of those directors films got on, just not any of the ones i voted for. so replacing a vote for something lesser with a different film from a better director would be the exception.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI'm hoping the point system is implemented for the final ballot.
It will be.
::IN RESPONNSE TO MOD-AGE'S POST:
i see what you mean....trust me though......most of my choices will be out of my initial picks.....it's just that one or two films on that list RK posted does infact raises eyebrows as to" what i forgot i liked"(if that makes sense)...
my disappointments:
too much PTA
too much jonze
too much coen
no chaplin
no altman
no bergman
no bunuel
no malick
ATTN EVERYONE
abuck1220 is disappointed in the list
Quote from: abuck1220my disappointments:
too much PTA
too much jonze
too much coen
no chaplin
no altman
no bergman
no bunuel
no malick
The fact that there isn't a single Bergman film just boggles my mind.
also, nno cronnennnbergh....
and could someone make that list sticky....instead of going back and forth between pages????? :?:
just hav sumone quote it once every few pages, thus
Quote from: RegularKarateLadies and Gentlemen, I give you THE LIST:
2001: A Space Odysee
400 Blows
8 1/2
Adaptation
Amelie
Annie Hall
Apocolypse Now
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich
Big Lebowski
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Casino
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane
Clockwork Orange, A
Do the Right Thing
Donnie Darko
Dr. Strangelove
Elephant Man
Empire Strikes Back
Eyes Wide Shut
Fargo
Fight Club
Godfather
Godfather part II
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Goodfellas
Jackie Brown
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia
Matrix
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream
Royal Tennenbaums
Rushmore
Seven Samurai
Shawshank Redemption
Shining
Singin' in the Rain
Taxi Driver
Vertigo
Pardon any typos... I was in a hurry
Anyway, there it is, if you didn't vote, I'd better not hear too much bitching from you.
EDIT: DO NOT VOTE YET
..that is a good list......
innnterested in the battles though.....
casino vs. goodffellas
BJM vs. adapt..
Godfather vs. Godfather 2
jackie brown vs. pulp
rushmore vs. tenn.
vertigo vs. psycho......
i think this is right...
kubrick: 6
scorsese: 4
lynch: 3
pta: 3
coens: 3
coppola: 3
tarantino: 2
jonze: 2
hitchcock: 2
wes anderson: 2
so by this definition, spike jonze has made more great films than fellini.
films that shouldn't be on there IMO (not sayin bad, but not deservin of best of all time)
barton fink
big lebowski
brazil
being john malkovich
casino
donnie darko
fight club
matrix
shawshank redemption
the rest seem reasonable, while most were not my picks if i recall, but i can work with em, overall a satisfying list but a few very disappointing surprises
Quote from: themodernage02so by this definition, spike jonze has made more great films than fellini.
Richard Kelly has made more than Billy Wilder.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: themodernage02so by this definition, spike jonze has made more great films than fellini.
Richard Kelly has made more than Billy Wilder.
*(shits pants.) i know, his and jonze track records are flawless. they are at 100%. they'd better stop now cause theyll only get worse and then NONE of their flicks'll be on the list.
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: themodernage02so by this definition, spike jonze has made more great films than fellini.
Richard Kelly has made more than Billy Wilder.
*(shits pants.) i know, his and jonze track records are flawless. they are at 100%. they'd better stop now cause theyll only get worse and then NONE of their flicks'll be on the list.
This has nothing to do with the fact that some people haven't seen every single movie ever made like Mac and Mini
yeah, who's even heard of this billy wilder guy?
Quote from: abuck1220yeah, who's even heard of this billy wilder guy?
exactly my point
Quote from: abuck1220yeah, who's even heard of this billy wilder guy?
ask cameron crowe, he mighta talked to him.
i'm joking!
i voted for the apartment!
Huh, what an interesting list. I'm happy that 14 of my choices made it, but it seems like those that did get in were the safest.
Cheers:
- My Life to Live (!!!!! I am not alone! I'm miffed Contempt didn't make the cut-- I figured people would have been all over that criterion-- but I'll settle for this).
- Barry Lyndon (this bores some to tears, but it's my favorite Kubrick).
- Elephant Man (I didn't even vote for it, but I love Lynch, so it's all good).
Jeers:
- Casino (I love it, but Marty's made many more better films than this one)
- Too much PTA (I love the guy, but sheesh, kids, expand your horizons!)
- No Soderbergh (I voted for Schizopolis and The Limey)
- No Peckinpah (Wild Bunch? Straw Dogs? Garcia?)
- No Altman (McCabe, Short Cuts, The Player, Nashville all seem worthy)
- The Third Man :cry:
If I could add to Weak's very good list here, I would say:
No Lean (especially Lawrence of Arabia)
No Herzog (Mr. BK is not going to be too pleased)
and no silent movies! Chaplin, Keaton, Griffith, Dreyer, Murnau, etc. Not ONE of these greats that paved the way for every other filmmaker.
But since this is Xixax, I'm still very satisfied with the list produced.
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
- The Third Man :cry:
Fuck.
This list is ok. I think when people voted, they voted for their favorite films, but now, looking at the list, people are looking for the best films ever made list, which I think might explain more modern films that past and why the list isn't more eclectic. There's a difference between favorite and best, so I think there might be some confusion as to what kind of list we actually have here. 11 of mine got on, some that I'd forgotten about too (Elephant Man), so I guess I'm fine with it.
And why is Donnie Darko on there?
i think everyone needs to man up an admit the PDL has no place on the list
I wish a few more older films had gotten onto to the list, but I can't really say anything, because some of the older ones I voted for were films that I KNEW had no shot of making the Final 50.
I can be very grateful, though, for:
Seven Samurai
Vertigo
In addition to lack of Spielberg, the other bummers upon analysis include:
All the President's Men
Rocky
Treasure of the Sierra Madre
But I can't bitch too much about any of those.
Also, no animation. I'm guessing there were a lot of widely spread votes in this area. I would have guessed that a much-praised recent film like "Spirited Away" would have a shot, given the inclination toward recent movies (That's not the animation I voted for, though).
Also, I'm not embarrassed to note that it seems strange to have "Empire" but not "Star Wars."
Quote from: Gamblor the Manwhorethey voted for their favorite films, but now, looking at the list, people are looking for the best films ever made list, which I think might explain more modern films that past and why the list isn't more eclectic. There's a difference between favorite and best, so I think there might be some confusion as to what kind of list we actually have here. 11 of mine got on, some that I'd forgotten about too (Elephant Man), so I guess I'm fine with it.
this is exactly right. everyone read this and be enlightened.
Quote from: Bankyi think everyone needs to man up an admit the PDL has no place on the list
i voted for amelie, don't blame me.
ps.
Quote from: RegularKarateLadies and Gentlemen, I give you THE LIST:
2001: A Space Odysee
400 Blows
8 1/2
Adaptation
Amelie
Annie Hall
Apocolypse Now
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich
Big Lebowski
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Casino
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane
Clockwork Orange, A
Do the Right Thing
Donnie Darko
Dr. Strangelove
Elephant Man
Empire Strikes Back
Eyes Wide Shut
Fargo
Fight Club
Godfather
Godfather part II
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Goodfellas
Jackie Brown
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia
Matrix
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream
Royal Tennenbaums
Rushmore
Seven Samurai
Shawshank Redemption
Shining
Singin' in the Rain
Taxi Driver
Vertigo
Pardon any typos... I was in a hurry
Anyway, there it is, if you didn't vote, I'd better not hear too much bitching from you.
EDIT: DO NOT VOTE YET
THAT LIST IS FUCKING GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm gonna have a lovely time picking the final ten!!!
SWEET!
Quote from: Weak2ndActHuh, what an interesting list. I'm happy that 14 of my choices made it, but it seems like those that did get in were the safest.
Cheers:
- My Life to Live (!!!!! I am not alone! I'm miffed Contempt didn't make the cut-- I figured people would have been all over that criterion-- but I'll settle for this).
- Barry Lyndon (this bores some to tears, but it's my favorite Kubrick).
- Elephant Man (I didn't even vote for it, but I love Lynch, so it's all good).
Jeers:
- Casino (I love it, but Marty's made many more better films than this one)
- Too much PTA (I love the guy, but sheesh, kids, expand your horizons!)
- No Soderbergh (I voted for Schizopolis and The Limey)
- No Peckinpah (Wild Bunch? Straw Dogs? Garcia?)
- No Altman (McCabe, Short Cuts, The Player, Nashville all seem worthy)
- The Third Man :cry:
I don't wanna complain, because I like the list, but I agree with all of the above.
Especially because I really don't like Lynch, but always enjoyed Elephant Man.
My only real sadness is seeing Walkabout not on the list. Oh well. Maybe next year.
But YEAH YEAH!!!! to seeing My Life To Live on there!
Dont get me wrong, that is a great list, I love every single film on there but......NO SPIELBERG!?? :cry: That makes me sad.
But still a great list. Going to be quite hard to choose from.
I'm not disappointed by no Spielberg.
I do wish there were more older films, and I could've done with at least one from Bergman/Wilder/Chaplin instead of two or three nineties films apiece from certain directors (I limited myself to one film per director on my list of 30).
i really with Crowe could have had his one slot
For the final list, do we vote for 10 or 15? I'm just curious
Quote from: PQuote from: Gamblor the Manwhorethey voted for their favorite films, but now, looking at the list, people are looking for the best films ever made list, which I think might explain more modern films that past and why the list isn't more eclectic. There's a difference between favorite and best, so I think there might be some confusion as to what kind of list we actually have here. 11 of mine got on, some that I'd forgotten about too (Elephant Man), so I guess I'm fine with it.
this is exactly right. everyone read this and be enlightened.
I'm the one that really advocated voting "favorites." I'll take the blame if people think it didn't work, but I think it did. It's a good way to escape the oppression of choosing movies you don't necessarily love, but that the consensus has chosen as "The Greatest."
This is why we have 3 PTA movies and no Spielberg. We have a younger demographic that is really more connected to movies of their generation. There's nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetFor the final list, do we vote for 10 or 15? I'm just curious
I thought we got to vote for 15... I hope.
Quote from: godardianQuote from: The Gold TrumpetFor the final list, do we vote for 10 or 15? I'm just curious
I thought we got to vote for 15... I hope.
Yes. Deka=10. Penta=5.
edit: oh yeah. SoNowThen is right.
You vote for 10. We pick 15.We'll announce (soon, hopefully) when the voting will begin, and the exact rules for it.
Most likely it will be like this:
1. 10 points
2. 9 points
3. 8 points
4. 7 points
(...and so on)
We vote for 10 each now, and they pick the top 15.
And I agree with JB's post above.
Everyone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films. Like, when everyone watches The Conformist by next year, then it will be on the list like it deserves... :wink:
Quote from: SoNowThenWe vote for 10 each now, and they pick the top 15.
And I agree with JB's post above.
Everyone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films. Like, when everyone watches The Conformist by next year, then it will be on the list like it deserves... :wink:
Hopefully it'll be on DVD by then, so it will be seen as it deserves to be seen, as well. I've only seen it once, on the big screen at Portland's fantastic revival mecca, The Hollywood Theater.
I think it's actually 15 we get to vote for, not 10... and then everyone's 15 votes will be counted for a final list of 15...?
Quote from: SoNowThenEveryone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films. Like, when everyone watches The Conformist by next year, then it will be on the list like it deserves... :wink:
Anyone think we should update the list more often, like, say, every six, four, or three months?
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaQuote from: SoNowThenEveryone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films. Like, when everyone watches The Conformist by next year, then it will be on the list like it deserves... :wink:
Anyone think we should update the list more often, like, say, every six, four, or three months?
That sounds like a lot of work for the admins... plus, there's something to be said for letting it stand. Changing around too much can undermine the solidity of it. Tempting, though, esp. if you have lots of movies you haven't seen yet.
Please see
My Life to Live before voting, O! And that goes for everyone else, too.
Yes, I'm very very willing to give The Conformist a shot. I've always wanted to see that film.
But, to a lot of the complaints about the selections. On one hand, I like that it is a personal list coming from the board, but also I dislike that a group of 5 directors basically cleaned house. I like Godardian's approach in picking only one film from a director. That could be a good rule for next year. It doesn't force people to pick older classics, but makes them dig harder for a variety of films. I think the main problem is the lack of variety. I, for one, am going to by that rule for the final vote.
Quote from: godardianThat sounds like a lot of work for the admins.
Yes. Thank you.
am i the only one that woulda had The English Patient on here?
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetYes, I'm very very willing to give The Conformist a shot. I've always wanted to see that film.
But, to a lot of the complaints about the selections. On one hand, I like that it is a personal list coming from the board, but also I dislike that a group of 5 directors basically cleaned house. I like Godardian's approach in picking only one film from a director. That could be a good rule for next year. It doesn't force people to pick older classics, but makes them dig harder for a variety of films. I think the main problem is the lack of variety. I, for one, am going to by that rule for the final vote.
I don't agree with this. A good film is a good film. Vote for whatever film you want to, and don't restrict yourself just because one certain director has made more films that you like. I'm all for diversity, but imposing restrictions on yourself will just limit that diversity even more than just voting your conscience.
Quote from: aclockworkjjam i the only one that woulda had The English Patient on here?
Yes.
I don't agree with one per director. Kubrick and Scorsese clearly deserve at least two each. I'm baffled that any Jonze would find its way on a top list, but I'll take the bad with the good...
Quote from: aclockworkjjam i the only one that woulda had The English Patient on here?
God, I hope so. If I had to pick a Minghella, it would be
Mr. Ripley, but top 50 EVER? Never.
i'm very happy to see requiem on there....
but the " :roll:-Award"......goes to....DONNIE DARKO
first, a vital disclaimer:
Quote from: Gamblor the Manwhorethey voted for their favorite films, but now, looking at the list, people are looking for the best films ever made list, which I think might explain more modern films that past and why the list isn't more eclectic. There's a difference between favorite and best, so I think there might be some confusion as to what kind of list we actually have here
and the list..
Quote from: RegularKarateLadies and Gentlemen, I give you THE LIST:
2001: A Space Odysee
400 Blows
8 1/2
Adaptation
Amelie
Annie Hall
Apocolypse Now
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich
Big Lebowski
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Casino
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane
Clockwork Orange, A
Do the Right Thing
Donnie Darko
Dr. Strangelove
Elephant Man
Empire Strikes Back
Eyes Wide Shut
Fargo
Fight Club
Godfather
Godfather part II
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Goodfellas
Jackie Brown
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia
Matrix
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream
Royal Tennenbaums
Rushmore
Seven Samurai
Shawshank Redemption
Shining
Singin' in the Rain
Taxi Driver
Vertigo
Pardon any typos... I was in a hurry
Anyway, there it is, if you didn't vote, I'd better not hear too much bitching from you.
EDIT: DO NOT VOTE YET
Any idea on the time frame for the final vote and when results will be up? End of year? Beginning of next year?
I'm just asking because the XIXAX Awards are coming up in the next couple months, but hopefully that can be pushed to March so people have a chance to actually see all the movies.
Quote from: SoNowThenI don't agree with one per director. Kubrick and Scorsese clearly deserve at least two each. I'm baffled that any Jonze would find its way on a top list, but I'll take the bad with the good...
I don't know about that. I tried to think of basically my 30 favorite directors, then give them one shot each by picking their best work. When it comes down to the final 15, I might have to break my rule once. But that will be circumscribed and limited to the list of 50; with the first vote of 30 being so open-ended, I didn't want to squander any of my choices by giving one director more than one shot and neglecting the great work of a different great director. Maybe if we'd had 50 or 100, I could've done that.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetXIXAX Awards are coming up in the next couple months, but hopefully that can be pushed to March
Around that time. The point last year was to do it before the Oscars (so it wasn't just a reaction to them). It would be nice to do that again.
Quote from: godardianGod, I hope so. If I had to pick a Minghella, it would be Mr. Ripley, but top 50 EVER? Never.
i understand...but in that case, what the fuck is Empire Strikes Back doing there? I liked English Patient tho...
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanAround that time. The point last year was to do it before the Oscars (so it wasn't just a reaction to them). It would be nice to do that again.
will it be a locked forum? :wink:
Quote from: aclockworkjjwhat the fuck is Empire Strikes Back doing there?
I feel the same way. Lord knows it's not my fault.
Listen, I'm not a Star Wars fan, but c'mon, Empire is a good movie. For a popcorn film, there coulda been much worse picks...
Quote from: SoNowThen
And I agree with JB's post above.
Everyone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films.
Well, the people who vote next year are going to be different than the people who voted this year. I don't see the list changing that much except for the addition of films from this year.
Quote from: SoNowThenListen, I'm not a Star Wars fan, but c'mon, Empire is a good movie. For a popcorn film, there coulda been much worse picks...
It's the most bearable of all six... still, I wouldn't watch it again of my own free will.
Quote from: SHAFTRQuote from: SoNowThen
And I agree with JB's post above.
Everyone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films.
Well, the people who vote next year are going to be different than the people who voted this year. I don't see the list changing that much except for the addition of films from this year.
??? That makes no sense. I know this year alone I saw Conformist, Walkabout, and Brazil for the first time, and they all made it on my list. Just last year, Reservoir Dogs was in my top ten, but got replaced by Jackie Brown (which will be replaced with Kill Bill next year) during a recent Tarantino-fest I did. I hope to fuck other people are gonna change, as well as bone up on old classics, or else there's not much hope for this board...
Quote from: SHAFTRQuote from: SoNowThen
And I agree with JB's post above.
Everyone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films.
Well, the people who vote next year are going to be different than the people who voted this year. I don't see the list changing that much except for the addition of films from this year.
"EVERYTHING THAT IS OLD IS NEW AGAIN"
Quote from: SoNowThenQuote from: SHAFTRQuote from: SoNowThen
And I agree with JB's post above.
Everyone should keep in mind that we're doing an updated list each year, and it'll be interesting to watch things change as our members see many more films.
Well, the people who vote next year are going to be different than the people who voted this year. I don't see the list changing that much except for the addition of films from this year.
??? That makes no sense. I know this year alone I saw Conformist, Walkabout, and Brazil for the first time, and they all made it on my list. Just last year, Reservoir Dogs was in my top ten, but got replaced by Jackie Brown (which will be replaced with Kill Bill next year) during a recent Tarantino-fest I did. I hope to fuck other people are gonna change, as well as bone up on old classics, or else there's not much hope for this board...
Between now and a year from now, there are going to be new members. I can imagine their votes will be very similiar to the ones this year.
it would be nice if ppl changed.
my top 10 changes every year.
most ppl don't watch as many movies as they claim to, if they did, no one would hate so many classics.
Quote from: NEON MERCURY"EVERYTHING THAT IS OLD IS NEW AGAIN"
..it will channge from time to time.....from people catching up w/older films and .........seeing nnewer ones also.....
hereis a perefect example......21 Grams.....for soem reason if i/most people would have seen this it would be on that last list ..I KNNNOW IT IS THAT GOOD. ALL OF THE SIGNS POINT TO YES.....but sinnnnce it is limited release....nnot everyone can see it yet.......possibly later theartrically or onn dvd...just give it time and year to year the list will channge.......
I have no problem with changing my entire perspective on movies and putting films I've only just seen on these lists. There were a bunch of films I was trying to see at the last minute to be able to actually nominate, but I just couldn't do it. One film, which I don't know of anyone here seeing yet, was only seen by me like a few months ago and surged to the top of my list. I've seen it prolly 5 times since that initial viewing. By next year, I'm hoping I have seen a couple films in particular so I can nominate them. I have that high of expectations for them.
Quote from: godardianIt's the most bearable of all six...
no way..Return of the Jedi!!!
one reason:
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actually this is a really good list, it's just fun to find the holes in it.
so when can we start voting for the finals, who to, and how will the number system work (top movie to be listed as #1 and given ___ points, and so on)?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: godardianQuote from: The Gold TrumpetFor the final list, do we vote for 10 or 15? I'm just curious
I thought we got to vote for 15... I hope.
Yes. Deka=10. Penta=5.
edit: oh yeah. SoNowThen is right. You vote for 10. We pick 15.
We'll announce (soon, hopefully) when the voting will begin, and the exact rules for it.
Most likely it will be like this:
1. 10 points
2. 9 points
3. 8 points
4. 7 points
(...and so on)
We'll announce the Whens and Whos shortly (hopefully)
The point system works like this (in case you don't feel like going back to the first couple of pages)
You send a list of your top 10 in order of "bestness"... 1 being the bestest and 10 containing the least amount of best.
1 will be worth 10 points
2 will be worth 9
... you can figure the rest out...
10 will be worth 1 point
the movie with the most points wins a date with MiXax.
Oooh... and maybe we should do a chat with the top 3 (although it may be too much like the PT-fest we had earlier this year)
I'm betting it'll be one-third like the PTA fest...
okay, thanks for the info though... I'll be waiting to send away!!!!
i wonder if there will be campaigning to get other films on the list for next years vote. like a thread devoted to recommendtations like The Conformist or whatever someone feels really strongly about wanting on the list and trying to get more people to see it. i think that the picks will change in a years time, because ONE) new members, and TWO) the knowledge i had a year ago and what i have now is so vastly different after watching about 300 new films this year, and since i think a lot of people come to this board to get recommendations and find things to watch the list next year will be very different. i'm just wondering if our final list will end up looking very similar to the Sight And Sound Director Poll, cause i believe most of the 10 if not all are up for final vote. also, curious as to what the most recent movie everyone voted for was. like, PDL? somethign more recent. i voted for Kill Bill.
Quote from: themodernage02i wonder if there will be campaigning to get other films on the list for next years vote.
Well, we don't want this to get political. :wink:
In this, of all things, I'd be willing to politick.
Quote from: themodernage02i'm just wondering if our final list will end up looking very similar to the Sight And Sound Director Poll, cause i believe most of the 10 if not all are up for final vote. .
6 from the Critics Poll
- 2001, Vertigo, Citizen Kane, Godfather, 8 1/2, Singin' in the Rain
6 from the Directors Poll
- Seven Samurai, Vertigo, Dr Strangelove, 8 1/2, The Godfather, Citizen Kane
Quote from: themodernage02i wonder if there will be campaigning to get other films on the list for next years vote. like a thread devoted to recommendtations like The Conformist or whatever someone feels really strongly about wanting on the list and trying to get more people to see it. i think that the picks will change in a years time, because ONE) new members, and TWO) the knowledge i had a year ago and what i have now is so vastly different after watching about 300 new films this year, and since i think a lot of people come to this board to get recommendations and find things to watch the list next year will be very different. i'm just wondering if our final list will end up looking very similar to the Sight And Sound Director Poll, cause i believe most of the 10 if not all are up for final vote. also, curious as to what the most recent movie everyone voted for was. like, PDL? somethign more recent. i voted for Kill Bill.
I think campaigning is a great idea! What better way to get your film(s) on the list? :)
There will be no campaigning... any caught doing this will be banned until the vote is over.
Whoa! Serious?
Quote from: RegularKarateThere will be no campaigning... any caught doing this will be banned until the vote is over.
i meant campaigning for nominatinons NEXT YEAR, not swaying the final votes this year. that would corrupt the system!
Karate, you knew what we meant!.....did you?
Quote from: RegularKarateThere will be no campaigning... any caught doing this will be banned until the vote is over.
What's wrong with making people aware of films they feel are worthy of being there but less known? Or at least reminded? I mean, I totally forgot about Double Indemnity, and so did everyone else. And, with all the fuss about My Life to Live and The Conformist, I now want to see them soon, to see what the big deal is.
In the most non-campaigning way possible I would recommend a viewing of My Life To Live before the vote is over...
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaI mean, I totally forgot about Double Indemnity, and so did everyone else.
Two us didn't.
Quote from: SoNowThenIn the most non-campaigning way possible I would recommend a viewing of My Life To Live before the vote is over...
BAN HIM!!! it's the only one off the list i havent seen, and i'll NEVER WATCH IT NOW!!! :wink:
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: OnomatopoeiaI mean, I totally forgot about Double Indemnity, and so did everyone else.
Two us didn't.
i didnt forget, i just voted The Apartment instead.
I think suggesting someone see a film so they can make up their own mind will be looked upon differently than making a big high-pressure deal out of what people "have to" vote for. The merits of films can be debated too, obviously, but I'm assuming the line is drawn at telling people or implying to them that they have to vote a certain way, or pressuring or browbeating them.
Anyone let me know if I'm mistaken about this.
Will there be a post with a list of all the films that received votes?
I could careless who voted for who (although I think after the voting is completely finished it would be fun to list who you voted for if you want), I could also care less to see which films just missed. I really would like to see what films received votes.
Quote from: SoNowThenIn the most non-campaigning way possible I would recommend a viewing of My Life To Live before the vote is over...
That's it, you're out of here... enjoy your time away from XIXAX!
Quote from: godardianI think suggesting someone see a film so they can make up their own mind will be looked upon differently than making a big high-pressure deal out of what people "have to" vote for. The merits of films can be debated too, obviously, but I'm assuming the line is drawn at telling people or implying to them that they have to vote a certain way, or pressuring or browbeating them.
Anyone let me know if I'm mistaken about this.
YOU TOO! That's far too rebelious of a suggestion! Consider yourself banned!
:lol:
mum's the word until the end of the voting
I'll be good
Amy Machado Even Likes Indecent Exposures.
That'll teach us to disrespect RK's authorit-ah. :lol:
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if i could make one suggestion it would be that this thread is moved to Everything Else Cinema, since it really seems to belong more with great movie discussion and less with playboys and pancakes. i visit Idle Chatter much less than the 'main' forums. there might even be members who were unaware of the nominations vote who might like to vote for the final films. just an idea.
one other question: how were films nominated for the xixax end of year awards? i wasnt around in january.
I hate it because now I'm thinking of all these films I forgot saying D'OH! at the top of my lungs, but that's ok.
Quote from: themodernage02one other question: how were films nominated for the xixax end of year awards? i wasnt around in january.
For around two weeks, a large thread had all the categories for the end of year nominations. People would reply and fill in the categories with their choices. Like the usual award show deal goes, everyone was able to pick 5 films/people/etc for each category. After 2 weeks, people could only do this by private messaging JB so it wasn't too obvious what the winner was for each category.
I think an official thread of campaigning for films next year should definitely happen. People won't just listen to "see this film" and automatically go rent it and love it. Those campaigning will be forced to discuss their movies to get other people to want to see it. There's also no way for anything to be rigged. No one can give anyone else anything to anyone to make them really sway their votes, like money or whatever. They can only discuss films and get other people interested, but hey, this happens everyday indirectly here anyways. It won't be easy to convince anyone either. Everyone wants their favorite films on that nomination list so competition will be stiff.
But, I think restrictions should be put on the thread. Open it only 2 months before the nomination process so someone isn't given an eternity to mouth off about a film. This will also serve nicely to hype up the awards without having to lay banners everywhere on the board.
i had 12
Any Monkey Entertains Lotsa Incestous Emotions.
Quote from: aclockworkjjam i the only one that woulda had The English Patient on here?
probably
GT, I still really don't like this campaigning idea. Something about it just seems wrong.
This is supposed to be introspective, not mass manipulation. Why don't we just go on recommending movies for movies' sake, and let nature run its course?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanGT, I still really don't like this campaigning idea. Something about it just seems wrong.
This is supposed to be introspective, not mass manipulation. Why don't we just go on recommending movies for movies' sake, and let nature run its course?
There is an idea to letting nature run its course, but then there is also the purpose of this board. This board is a movie discussion board that tries to get people to talk about their favorite films but also further their range of what movies they see without some professor slamming down a list of "classic films" down their throats. Thing is, a lot of foreign films and older film threads are not really that popular and only get visited by a certain group of the members here. They are just single threads that site alone. What I think just this thread has done is taken discussion to some outside movies, like My Life to Live and The Conformist, and brought it to the thread that is most popular and is getting everyone excited about an upcoming event. Because of the excitement of this list, people are given a drive to search further outside their boxes. Also, there is no authoritarian person saying "this", "that" and "those" to everyone on what to like, but people giving their recommendations and speaking passionately about them. This event has gotten people excited about some outside the box films (My Life to Live) and discussion in it has gotten people interested in others (The Conformist). Making an official thread to predate these awards only allows the excitement of the event to go into further discussions.
Also, I think a lot of the words used to sell this thread really turned you off, JB.
even if seeing the recommended film doesnt result in someone adding it to their list, it will atleast result in some interesting discussion. like, theres not a snowflakes chance in hell i'd be adding My Life To Live to my list anytime soon over Batman or Big Trouble In Little China, but i'll still see it now to see what the fuss is about. and then enjoy bitching to the group about 'whats the big deal?' till someone more intelligent explains to me "what the big deal is". you know?
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThere is an idea to letting nature run its course, but then there is also the purpose of this board.
What I meant is let nature run its course
on this board and do what we usually do. Post something about a movie you love. But... going around for months saying "vote for this! vote for this!"... Do we really need that?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: The Gold TrumpetThere is an idea to letting nature run its course, but then there is also the purpose of this board.
What I meant is let nature run its course on this board and do what we usually do. Post something about a movie you love. But... going around for months saying "vote for this! vote for this!"... Do we really need that?
I don't think anyone will see any effectiveness in saying "vote for this!" or any other slogan of advertisement. They'll likely realize the ineffectiveness of just naming a title and saying go see it. At best, I'm thinking someone would be convinced to rent it at best. Convinced of greatness in the film? Hardly not. People trying to speak about titles will be forced to discuss them. This happens here in every single you way you can imagine, so why not in the context of applying it to an event so popular so the message can be even louder? Like I said, strict limitations to how long this thread will exist should be implemented to keep it from turning into a shouting match.
Sure, I love the idea of campaigning. Of pitching films. Of letting our enthusiasm for films flow all over this board, so that we can raise the level of debate and enlighten each other.
I want to see people write passionately about why "Grave of the Fireflies" is more effective and compelling than any live-action war film you've ever seen. And why you need to go see it.
I want to see people campaign fervently about why the European classics of the 50s, 60s and 70s are relevant and worthwhile to twentysomething cinephiles of the year 2003.
I want someone to write a brilliant pitch for a film that I never heard of, or overlooked, so that I go out of my way to find a copy and see if it's as great as advertised.
And I want plain old fun smackdowns, too. I mean, I thoroughly enjoyed "Donnie Darko," but anyone who thinks that it's better than "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is a bit of a loon. :wink:
Quote from: Find Your MagaliAnd I want plain old fun smackdowns, too.
Amelie ....to your rootie-poo asses!!!!! haha. jj thinks the amelie should be da shmack-a-lacka-down!!!
ps.
Quote from: RegularKarateLadies and Gentlemen, I give you THE LIST:
2001: A Space Odysee
400 Blows
8 1/2
Adaptation
Amelie
Annie Hall
Apocolypse Now
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich
Big Lebowski
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Casino
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane
Clockwork Orange, A
Do the Right Thing
Donnie Darko
Dr. Strangelove
Elephant Man
Empire Strikes Back
Eyes Wide Shut
Fargo
Fight Club
Godfather
Godfather part II
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Goodfellas
Jackie Brown
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia
Matrix
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream
Royal Tennenbaums
Rushmore
Seven Samurai
Shawshank Redemption
Shining
Singin' in the Rain
Taxi Driver
Vertigo
Pardon any typos... I was in a hurry
Anyway, there it is, if you didn't vote, I'd better not hear too much bitching from you.
EDIT: DO NOT VOTE YET
Quote from: Find Your MagaliAnd I want plain old fun smackdowns, too. I mean, I thoroughly enjoyed "Donnie Darko," but anyone who thinks that it's better than "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is a bit of a loon. :wink:
Then call me a bit of a loon. :yawn:
Quote from: themodernage02i visit Idle Chatter much less than the 'main' forums. .
me, too. mainly just for this, actually. and to join in any hot-button provocations/debates going on. not too much actual idle chatter really interests me.
No chinese movie makes me sad. In The Mood for Love, that I actually forgot to put myself, espcially. Like on all lists of everything, America is over-represented. Anyway, they're all 9.5/10 movies or higher in my head so I don't mind.
I congratulate again the work of JB and all the others.
Quote from: themodernage02i think this is right...
kubrick: 6
In your face Kubrick haters!!! :splat:
Quote from: themodernage02
i voted for Kill Bill.
I did too.
BTW, great job by JB, GB and RK.
They say the announcement for the final voting will be soon so.....will it?
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThey say the announcement for the final voting will be soon so.....will it?
Yes. Very soon.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Yes. Very soon.
Good, so, how many members did send a list? Sorry if that's been answered before.
I must admit that I'm surprised EWS made it, a lot of people didn't like it, I absolutely love it.
It's time to vote!
From the 50 nominations, you're choosing 10. These votes will count for the final list of 15.
RULES
you must pick exactly 10 movies
the 10 movies must all come from the list we have provided
they must be numbered in order of bestness. 1 being the bestest, 10 being the least best
once a vote is submitted, there will be no changes granted
anyone can vote (doesn't matter whether you voted in the first round)
do not display your votes publicly (yet)
use full titles ("Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring" instead of "LOTR: FOTR")
if there have been remakes or movies of the same title, please specify the year
in the case of foreign films, please use the most common title
don't put "the" before anything
If your username begins begins with A-I (or a #), send your ballot to Ghostboy (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=104)
If your username begins begins with J-Q, send your ballot to Jeremy Blackman (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=21)
If your username begins begins with R-Z, send your ballot to RegularKarate (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=63)
Please put "10 best" in the subject line.
VOTES WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL JANUARY1
Have any questions about the voting process? Ask them here.
the nominations
2001: A Space Odyssey
400 Blows
8 1/2
Adaptation
Amelie
Annie Hall
Apocolypse Now
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich
Big Lebowski
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Casino
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane
Clockwork Orange, A
Do the Right Thing
Donnie Darko
Dr. Strangelove
Elephant Man
Empire Strikes Back
Eyes Wide Shut
Fargo
Fight Club
Godfather
Godfather part II
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Goodfellas
Jackie Brown
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia
Matrix
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream
Royal Tennenbaums
Rushmore
Seven Samurai
Shawshank Redemption
Shining
Singin' in the Rain
Taxi Driver
Vertigo
Done and done.
Everybody.... bribe money will be in the mail...
damn that was tough.
lists are exhausting.
That was really fucking tough to pick a top 10...
made it seem to me like i was making actual desicions...
That made me feel like I was performing open heart surgery with arthritic hands.
Quote from: aClockworkWalrusThat was really fucking tough to pick a top 10...
made it seem to me like i was making actual desicions...
I used to think you were going to win the dekapenticon but I don't like this indesiciveness. It's looking like maybe Cinephile will win now
i rigged it so that The Man Who Fell to Earth will win.
Quote from: SlobhQuote from: aClockworkWalrusThat was really fucking tough to pick a top 10...
made it seem to me like i was making actual desicions...
I used to think you were going to win the dekapenticon but I don't like this indesiciveness. It's looking like maybe Cinephile will win now
Wait. Wait... maybe I'm an idiot (okay, not just maybe..) but how does one go about *winning* this?
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: SlobhQuote from: aClockworkWalrusThat was really fucking tough to pick a top 10...
made it seem to me like i was making actual desicions...
I used to think you were going to win the dekapenticon but I don't like this indesiciveness. It's looking like maybe Cinephile will win now
Wait. Wait... maybe I'm an idiot (okay, not just maybe..) but how does one go about *winning* this?
Indecisiveness was the Walrus' downfall, don't be a fool!
Quote from: Pi rigged it so that The Man Who Fell to Earth will win.
I woulda voted for it. That's one DVD I'm thinking Santa will be bringing to godardian this year...
Slobh's just bitter because I couldn't tell him I love him when he asked on our first date.
So now I am soooo in desicive.
Let it go! Let's be friends, ok?
I will win the XIXAX DEKAPENTICON
Now, now, you two. Just kiss and make up.
Quote from: godardianI woulda voted for it. That's one DVD I'm thinking Santa will be bringing to godardian this year...
And do you think if I ask that Santa guy to bring me Naomi Watts he'll do it?
It never hurt anyone to ask.
Quote from: aClockworkWalrusIt never hurt anyone to ask.
what if the question was "would you please hurt me?"
They could still say no.
Quote from: aClockworkWalrusThey could still say no.
Aha! they
could. but someone, somewhere along the line has said "yes.", ending the "never"ending cycle.
Quote from: picolasQuote from: aClockworkWalrusThey could still say no.
Aha! they could. but someone, somewhere along the line has said "yes.", ending the "never"ending cycle.
You smart people and your big confusing words and your small...difficult words...
Question:
Regarding the rating of the top 10 films, do we have to grade them 1 thru 10 with each film having it's own number, i.e., 1,2,3,4..., etc, etc, or can we have films tying and go from there, i.e., 1, 2, 2, 4... etc, etc. Thanks in advance.
Quote from: billybrowncan we have films tying and go from there, i.e., 1, 2, 2, 4... etc, etc.
No ties. Just a simple 1-10.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: billybrowncan we have films tying and go from there, i.e., 1, 2, 2, 4... etc, etc.
No ties. Just a simple 1-10.
Okey doke.
Just a reminder:
votes will be accepted until January 1, 2004
If you want a reminder of the rules and nominations, go here (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=4316&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=289).
interested to see how this turns out. also, when are the xixax 2003 award nominations begin?
When do the results of the Top 10 Films come in? Voting from that list was like slaughtering your own children in terms of films that just barely didn't make the cut. Very difficult indeed.
Quote from: themodernage02interested to see how this turns out. also, when are the xixax 2003 award nominations begin?
I was wondering the same thing...I missed last years, so I can't wait to participate in these!
The final Dekapenticon count will be released as soon as we finish counting, which will probably be within a week.
As for the Xixax Awards, we will probably get them done in time to announce them before the Oscars. Not sure yet about the nominations.
who decides on the nominations for the XIXAX awards?
The people.
When do we nominate these awards?
Hopefully before the Oscar nominations are announced in February.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanHopefully before the Oscar nominations are announced in February.
This year the Oscars are
in Feburary (29th). Nominations are announced on January 27th.
Hmm. Maybe we should get this Dekapenticon wrapped up, then...
YES!!
CANCEL ALL DEKAPENTICON
CANCEL ALL XIXAX AWARD
ban slog
This is one thread he can't ruin.
man we need to get going on these nominations then so people have a chance to catch all the nominees
Final Results (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=5109)