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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: Teen Wolf on September 08, 2003, 08:18:08 PM

Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Teen Wolf on September 08, 2003, 08:18:08 PM
I seem to remember an interview w/ PTA where he talks about how he came up w/ the character of Frank TJ Mackey. If memory serves me correctly he said in this interview how someone gave him an old cassette tape with this guy on it who had all these crazy theories on how to pick up women.

Now, driving home from work a few weeks back, in traffic, surfing the radio waves, I happened upon The Tom Likus Show. I live in Los Angeles, but I happen to know that they air this program nation-wide. Perhaps you've heard of him? This guy's schtik is so similar to Frank Mackey's that I thought he had seen Magnolia and assumed the character as his sort of on-air persona. Then I found out this guy, Tom Likus, has been around for over a decade with the same act. So I'm wondering, is it possible that this is who was on the tape? Is this who Paul took his cue from as he was writing the Frank Mackey character into the script?
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 08, 2003, 08:39:30 PM
I am not positive...but I don't think it's about Tom Leykis.  ALthough Leykis is a character in his own sense.  Only a few more "Flash Fridays" left!

I believe there was some dude who actually ran seminars like this, and used to advertise in playboy and such.  I can't remember his name though.  

I can definately see the resemblance though, as Tom is kinda a dirtbag too.  But if you think about it, even if you don't agree, a lot of what he says is true.  I love when those damn women try to call in and tell him he is wrong....he either tears them into nothing or simply hangs up on them.  ha.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Pedro on September 08, 2003, 09:50:07 PM
listen to the interview again here (http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/fa/20000119.fa.ram)
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Weak2ndAct on September 09, 2003, 06:42:59 PM
Ironic.  I read this post and have Tom Leykis on my radio right now.  I love the guy, it's like having Mackey lecture you everyday.  But minus the cursing :-(

And God Bless Flash Fridays.
Title: I don't wanna be mean
Post by: boombanglarrabee on September 10, 2003, 03:39:59 PM
"Ironic. I read this post and have Tom Leykis on my radio right now."


Kay.  This is not ironic.  It's a coincidence.  Irony is when a fire station is on fire.  Common mistake, don't feel bad.
Title: Re: I don't wanna be mean
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 10, 2003, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: boombanglarrabee"Ironic. I read this post and have Tom Leykis on my radio right now."


Kay.  This is not ironic.  It's a coincidence.  Irony is when a fire station is on fire.  Common mistake, don't feel bad.

Yeah, I always get "irony" and "coincidence" wrong.

And that damn Alanis Morrisette song never helped one bit.

So, are those three tales in the Magnolia prologue ironic, or just coincidences... :wink:
Title: Re: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on September 10, 2003, 04:01:49 PM
Tom Likus is a fat ugly grosss idiot and should be beat to death with a shoe


he has been married like 4 times and he is grosss all radio guys are gross but he makes howard stern pre howards plastic surgery look like brad pitt

he gets the lowest trash woman and then says all woman are like them


he is a fat ugly radio DJ, Imagine what kind of groupies he would get ???

and this is what we should gauge our persepections of woman on

ok when snoop talks bitchs and Ho's , he is talking about the only woman around him real life gold diggers , but quality pussy not like the low classs f leval pussy likus gets

snoop has the right as a artist to speak on what he sees around him and hey ladies get mad at other woman for making you guys look bad

now Tom Likus is another case all together to hear him you think he is tom cruise in magnolia to see him he looks like well harry from AICN with a beard and red har

just fat and gross

and he has NO GAME And LA has shit talk radio for sure
Title: Re: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 10, 2003, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand he has NO GAME And LA has shit talk radio for sure
It's not an "original Tom" idea...but one he still uses.  Go to the ATM, find a reciept that someone has tossed away, the one with the highest balance.  Keep that in your wallet.  Then when presented with an opprotunity to give your phone number to a girl....write it on the back of that.  The moral is...you bet your fine broke ass that girl will be calling you.  Sad, but true.  Leykis is a dipshit, but there is a lot of truth he speaks.  Sure he generalizes, and groups, but it's all too often that society makes him seem like he knows what he is talking about.  Women (not all) are naive and stupid...most (not all) would take 6 gold cards over true love in a heartbeat...most (not all) will sell themselves out for any guy.  Leykis is a dumbfuck, but funny as hell, and sometimes has a good point.

And Pants, as far as Snoop's ho's?  Maybe I just don't see the reference.  Assuming you mean the ghetto bitches he refers too...have you ever even seen one, or yet known one?  Cause, don't get me wrong, I totally dig the chocolate love....but there is nothing classy about a ghetto girl.  They are just as bad of gold diggers as the white trashy girls Leykis refers too.  Only difference is, they will slap the shit outta yer ass and sleep with your best friend if they don't get what they want.  Where as the white trash will just sleep with your best friend.  Shit ghetto girls,... they do that good, considering they have been doing it to half the brothers round the block since they was only 13 years old.        They also whine and complain about how it's not their fault they livin' up on Crenshaw and Hyde Park.  And that's all connected to the glory stories they tell of their "baby's daddy" being in jail cause he tried to rob a bank for baby food.  Like he is some fuckin' modern day Robin Hood.  I don't know many girls like this but all I have met have the same story to tell.  And not once did I see an ounce of class there.  Instead, I saw nothing but tainted pussy and a chip on their shoulder.  If that's classy...I dunno...I am glad I have already excepted the fact I have none.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Teen Wolf on September 11, 2003, 11:22:17 AM
What if she wanted to enter your number into her cell phone? I guess you'd have to be like, "No, no -- let me write it down." Or you could expand the idea into other situations, like, "Oh, you need a tissue? Here have one of my bank statements."
Title: Re: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on September 11, 2003, 11:26:34 AM
all i meant snoop gets  abetter classs of gold diggers then a fat old dj and they would be black white whatever

but heis smart enough to just fuck them and leave , but he married his high school swetheart who with him when he was broke

thats reality
Title: Re: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: SoNowThen on September 11, 2003, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: aclockworkjj
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand he has NO GAME And LA has shit talk radio for sure
It's not an "original Tom" idea...but one he still uses.  Go to the ATM, find a reciept that someone has tossed away, the one with the highest balance.  Keep that in your wallet.  Then when presented with an opprotunity to give your phone number to a girl....write it on the back of that.  The moral is...you bet your fine broke ass that girl will be calling you.  Sad, but true.  Leykis is a dipshit, but there is a lot of truth he speaks.  Sure he generalizes, and groups, but it's all too often that society makes him seem like he knows what he is talking about.  Women (not all) are naive and stupid...most (not all) would take 6 gold cards over true love in a heartbeat...most (not all) will sell themselves out for any guy.  Leykis is a dumbfuck, but funny as hell, and sometimes has a good point.

And Pants, as far as Snoop's ho's?  Maybe I just don't see the reference.  Assuming you mean the ghetto bitches he refers too...have you ever even seen one, or yet known one?  Cause, don't get me wrong, I totally dig the chocolate love....but there is nothing classy about a ghetto girl.  They are just as bad of gold diggers as the white trashy girls Leykis refers too.  Only difference is, they will slap the shit outta yer ass and sleep with your best friend if they don't get what they want.  Where as the white trash will just sleep with your best friend.  Shit ghetto girls,... they do that good, considering they have been doing it to half the brothers round the block since they was only 13 years old.        They also whine and complain about how it's not their fault they livin' up on Crenshaw and Hyde Park.  And that's all connected to the glory stories they tell of their "baby's daddy" being in jail cause he tried to rob a bank for baby food.  Like he is some fuckin' modern day Robin Hood.  I don't know many girls like this but all I have met have the same story to tell.  And not once did I see an ounce of class there.  Instead, I saw nothing but tainted pussy and a chip on their shoulder.  If that's classy...I dunno...I am glad I have already excepted the fact I have none.

Fucking brilliant post. Especially the first part.

Why do I have to want to be with hot sluts who I hate so much when I actually stop to think about it?
Title: Re: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on September 11, 2003, 11:36:21 AM
maybe i cant take him seriouse because he has been married 5 times and is ft and ugly ( which saying fat and ugly here is like yelling nigger in bed stuy)


but i get better game from better places, and most of the game i spit is from my own head

i cant stand leykis
Title: Re: I don't wanna be mean
Post by: Weak2ndAct on September 11, 2003, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: boombanglarrabee"Ironic. I read this post and have Tom Leykis on my radio right now."


Kay.  This is not ironic.  It's a coincidence.  Irony is when a fire station is on fire.  Common mistake, don't feel bad.

Thanks for pointing out grammar mistakes.  Now try adding something to the conversation.  Kay?
Title: Re: I don't wanna be mean
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on September 11, 2003, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: boombanglarrabee"Ironic. I read this post and have Tom Leykis on my radio right now."


Kay.  This is not ironic.  It's a coincidence.  Irony is when a fire station is on fire.  Common mistake, don't feel bad.

Thanks for pointing out grammar mistakes.  Now try adding something to the conversation.  Kay?

with that tone, you should of ended this sentence with and Buh bye
Title: Re: I don't wanna be mean
Post by: Weak2ndAct on September 11, 2003, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: boombanglarrabee"Ironic. I read this post and have Tom Leykis on my radio right now."


Kay.  This is not ironic.  It's a coincidence.  Irony is when a fire station is on fire.  Common mistake, don't feel bad.

Thanks for pointing out grammar mistakes.  Now try adding something to the conversation.  Kay?

with that tone, you should of ended this sentence with and Buh bye

Good call.  I just can't stand when the grammar/english police come by to tell you that you've fucked up just for the sake of it, and add nothing to the topic at hand.  Buh bye.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: MacGuffin on September 11, 2003, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: boombanglarrabee"Ironic. I read this post and have Tom Leykis on my radio right now."

Kay.  This is not ironic.  It's a coincidence.  Irony is when a fire station is on fire.  Common mistake, don't feel bad.

Thanks for pointing out grammar mistakes.  Now try adding something to the conversation.  Kay?

Grammar would have been if you spelled it wrong or used it's placement in a sentence incorrectly. You made a definition mistake, like this one.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Weak2ndAct on September 11, 2003, 02:30:43 PM
I have been shamed.  Time to quit that writing career and get a job at Blockbuster.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 11, 2003, 03:06:04 PM
ok fellas...back to sleezy fake boobied, torn-up pussy trash....

The world is surrounded by them, and my mouth is open.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on September 11, 2003, 03:09:29 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndActI have been shamed.  Time to quit that writing career and get a job at Blockbuster.

you know most of the people here work there or at borders or starbucks  

i love when i here fat guys who work at borders complain about freddy prinz jr and how they would never cast him i always want to say shut up and show me your rap section fat ass
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: SoNowThen on September 11, 2003, 03:10:52 PM
Quote from: aclockworkjjok fellas...back to sleezy fake boobied, torn-up pussy trash....

The world is surrounded by them, and my mouth is open.

Ahhhh.... someday I will get me one (or many) of these... someday...
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 11, 2003, 04:01:28 PM
:::tosses sonowthen a set of falsies:::

Cause seriously I can't manage to find a chick without fake boobs, so I have a set or 2 to spare...I am not even a boob guy, so it's not like an intitial attraction.  The last 4 girls I have "dated"...fake as shit.  I could give or take them....but then again....it sure is fun mooshin' my face between them...
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: SoNowThen on September 11, 2003, 04:10:53 PM
You must be in LA, yes?

Because out here, to get a chick with fakes, you gots to have the cash, or be a real styler. I mean a lady killer. I guess they figure they invested for a reason...

I just can't imagine having a chick who didn't have fake tits. I NEED them. Well, what I need to do is come visit my xixax friends and get hooked up...
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 11, 2003, 04:21:04 PM
Quote from: SoNowThena real styler. I mean a lady killer.
what makes you think I am not??...hahaha.

but no, not LA..Orange County (just south of LA)...the fake titty capital of the world...I swear.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: SoNowThen on September 11, 2003, 04:23:06 PM
hook me up with a wetback job, I'm so fucking there...

meet up with you and Pants for a drink daily....

and GET IT ON with some fine fake titted women...
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: meatball on October 27, 2003, 07:35:37 PM
reviving this from a month back to comment on the orange county (the oc) chicks.

a while back it was sorta decided amongst friends that l.a. girls are much more prudish and more difficult to 'seduce and destroy'. and for some reason, girls from the oc are supposed to be easy. i'm in l.a. and have never really visited the oc. please confirm, orange?
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on October 28, 2003, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: meatballreviving this from a month back to comment on the orange county (the oc) chicks.

a while back it was sorta decided amongst friends that l.a. girls are much more prudish and more difficult to 'seduce and destroy'. and for some reason, girls from the oc are supposed to be easy. i'm in l.a. and have never really visited the oc. please confirm, orange?

Orange County chicks are all white trash sluts that love KROQ and going to Huntington Beach night clubs with $2 beer Sundays... yes... I know them well...
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 28, 2003, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickOrange County chicks are all white trash sluts that love KROQ and going to Huntington Beach night clubs with $2 beer Sundays... yes... I know them well...
hehehe....

:::manly 5 five cheer:::

Orange County, the fake, sleezly alternative to classy Hollywood hoes!

ah...the men suck too, meathead city (makes it sorta easy 4 the artsy male, spit of a coherent thought, and you are already ahead of the pack)...just so no one starts crying about my hating...they both suck, yet it is here I am trapped.
Quote from: meatballorange?
or Newport, Irvine, HB, Fullerton college girls...shit, the all fit this billing.
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: godardian on October 28, 2003, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: aclockworkjj
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickOrange County chicks are all white trash sluts that love KROQ and going to Huntington Beach night clubs with $2 beer Sundays... yes... I know them well...
hehehe....

:::manly 5 five cheer:::

Orange County, the fake, sleezly alternative to classy Hollywood hoes!

ah...the men suck too, meathead city (makes it sorta easy 4 the artsy male, spit of a coherent thought, and you are already ahead of the pack)...just so no one starts crying about my hating...they both suck, yet it is here I am trapped.
Quote from: meatballorange?
or Newport, Irvine, HB, Fullerton college girls...shit, the all fit this billing.

So... life behind the Orange Curtain is actually MORE cheap, horrible, desperate, and witless than previously suspected?

Whenever I hear the words "Orange County," I think of this (and feel sorry for the desolate, lost souls who actually have to try to live there):

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vcsc.k12.in.us%2Fstaff%2Fmhutch%2Fmodpres%2Freagan%2Fronald129.gif&hash=469de4f18ce68b338ac1636ea63f8b87a01b8595)
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: godardian on October 28, 2003, 08:03:43 PM
Quote from: meatballI have begun packing for my expedition into the county of orange.  :P

Don't forget your entitled-Republican repellant... and bring change for all the poverty-inflicted panhandlers you're sure to encounter, as it's perrennially economically polarized...

Could there actually be a LESS sexy place?
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 28, 2003, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: meatballI have begun packing for my expedition into the county of orange.  :P
look me up if ya need a place to crash for awhile!!!!

Ya know, just to get yer feet (um, yeah) wet...hehehe.
Quote from: godardianCould there actually be a LESS sexy place?
yeah...the single mom ridden Seattle.....hehehe. :wink:
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: MacGuffin on October 28, 2003, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: meatballI have begun packing for my expedition into the county of orange.  :P

By the time you get here the wildfires with have BURNT THE ENTIRE CITY TO THE GROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Sleuth on October 28, 2003, 09:58:29 PM
What happened to Teen Wolf?
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Newtron on November 01, 2003, 04:23:16 AM
Quote from: SlobhWhat happened to Teen Wolf?
What happened to Tremolosloth?
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Sleuth on November 01, 2003, 12:40:52 PM
Quote from: Newtron
Quote from: SlobhWhat happened to Teen Wolf?
What happened to Tremolosloth?

I don't even know anymore

but wasn't Teen Wolf a registered user?  Now he's guest.

I don't like guests :x
Title: The Origin of Mackey
Post by: Slick Shoes on April 30, 2004, 11:13:23 AM
I was listening to the show yesterday.. some guy called up and asked Tom if PTA based Frank Mackey on him. Tom acknowledged the similarities, but said to his knowledge PTA has never mentioned using the show/him as a template.