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Release date: TBD
Starring: Scarlett Johansson, Paul Brannigan, Joe Szula, Krystof Hádek
Directed by: Jonathan Glazer
Premise: An alien in human form is on a journey through Scotland.
teaser of the year! Teaser of the year!
fuck i gotta stop saying that about everything.
this feels strong, like glazer has finally stopped aping kubrick and gone somewhere new. scarjo looks as lifeless as always but it seems to be all about form anyway. she's all about the form.
^^ agree.
reading the premise a few weeks ago thought it sounded kinda dumb, but that teaser looks quite good, it feels Lynchian too.
is this Holy Motors starring ScarJo?
Ugh, I can't wait to see this. I saw a 4 minute promo reel that expanded a little bit on the trailer but not by much and it looks stunning. That being said, I think if you watch this and read any random review you'll probably have a good barometer as to what to expect...
Anticipating this being my favorite film of the year.
Reviews (haven't read em', so i have no idea about spoilers):
Telluride '13: Under the Skin (http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2013/09/telluride-13-under-the-skin.html#more) (Walter Chaw)
TimeOut London (http://www.timeout.com/london/film/under-the-skin-2013) (Dave Calhoun)
The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/venice-film-festival/10283407/Under-the-Skin-Venice-Film-Festival-review.html) (Robbie Collin)
The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/03/under-the-skin-review) (Xan Brooks)
Even Scarlett Johansson can't save Jonathan Glazer's laughably bad alien hitchiker movie (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/film-review-under-the-skin--even-scarlett-johansson-cant-save-jonathan-glazers-laughably-bad-alien-hitchhiker-movie-8796596.html) (The Independent, Kaleem Aftab)
Telluride Film Review: 'Under the Skin' (http://variety.com/2013/film/reviews/under-the-skin-review-telluride-venice-toronto-1200593111/) (Variety, Scott Foundas)
I can't wait until more people have seen this. You guys are gonna shit. This thread could get very interesting..
I heard she goes full frontal.
If so we will be doing more than shitting.
This movie is strange and incredible. Scarlett is great. There is so much to say about this movie, it needs to come out soon, so this thread can explode. The last two sequences blew my fucking mind. There is a moment when it gets slightly repetitive, but the emotional payoff that follows and the result at the end of that particular sequence is so good....Glazer has made a really strong movie about loneliness, desire, curiosity, longing and desperate men in search of a fuck. Let alone a movie about the alien gaze, what makes us human and empathy. I would love to talk about some of the specific visuals because, jesus, there are some shots/moments in this that I just can't shake. All those interviews where Carruth talks about sound, image, editing and music and a movie as an album. Well, this is that and this album is dark with some hilarious moments and some black humour and a lot of scary shit.
i liked what you did with pialat/kechiche, but tbh i'm scared by what you did with carruth/glazer (scared i won't like this)
The tempos are not similar if that's what your afraid of. Under The Skin takes it's time. It's just that both are visceral films which try to cater to all your senses and don't spell things out. The use of sound in this for instance is incredible. There is a scene involving food where I just tensed the fuck up, wondering what the hell was gonna happen next. This is movie is about feeling and how you experience the world and hardly anything is verbalised. There is an interrogation scene for instance, or at least what I gathered was an interrogation, done non verbally, and it was so powerful for having no dialogue. Nothing is explained here. It's just laid out and you have to make it out yourself. It's not a perfect film and like I said there was a passage where I was like "ok..." but it is incredible filmmaking and very brave and very strange. If I said it's Movern Callar with aliens would that make it worse?
lol on the end there. while reading i was prepping "[antonioni, e.g.]," but you sealed my deal with your closing codewords. a+
Quote from: max from fearless on October 18, 2013, 06:50:09 PM
Movern Callar with aliens
Good call. It's also Kuroneko with aliens instead of ghosts. Or Species/Bad Taste reimagined as a hypnotic video installation. Shades of Red Desert too.
well now i'm super pumped. where are you two seeing this? i'm guessing a festival, i can't find a release date. how is there no release date yet?? i don't like that.
all imdb says is:
Distributors
A24 (2014) (USA) (theatrical)
a24:
Distributor - filmography
The Silver Donkey (2014) ... Distributor (2014) (USA) (all media)
Enemy (2013) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical), Distributor (2013) (USA) (all media)
Locke (2013) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical), Distributor (2014) (USA) (theatrical), Distributor (2013) (USA) (all media)
Under the Skin (2013/I) ... Distributor (2014) (USA) (theatrical)
The Bling Ring (2013) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical)
The Spectacular Now (2013) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical)
The Rover (2013) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical)
A Glimpse Inside the Mind of Charles Swan III (2012) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical)
Spring Breakers (2012) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical)
Ginger & Rosa (2012) ... Distributor (2013) (USA) (theatrical)
i smell limited :/ well, there's los angeles
also, while looking for the release date i discovered multiple topofgoogle articles about the movie which include a photo of johansson in her underwear, which i haven't seen because i haven't watched the trailer. i'm glad i've heard other things about the movie
I saw it at the London Film Festival. I think it comes out here in the U.K next year. No doubt, A24 are shitting their pants about how to put it out there. I can't even imagine what the poster would be. But i know this line needs to be on it:
"Species/Bad Taste reimagined as a hypnotic video installation."
In theaters April 4, 2014
Wow
This is a trailer. This is the most a trailer has ever worked on me.
jonathan glazer loves kubick SO MUCH.
he's aping him in trailers too now.
the point of this is to establish some iconic images that will hopefully evoke an emotional intuitive response from the viewer. he's done it. the real kicker is that skin floating in the water. it's like an alternative to the mirror of blood in the shining teasers. that was the insides flowing out of a rigid mechanical object. this is the "outside" flowing inside a completely non-rigid structure.. they're both uncanny for basically the same reason. a part of us has been purged.
I'm ready for this.
Quote from: Pubrick on January 31, 2014, 09:08:20 AM
jonathan glazer loves kubick SO MUCH.
On top of that, Bergman's prologue to Persona...even down to the white background and type and tonal/percussive cuts.
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thats gorgeous but did they mean to cut the text off at the bottom like that?
Quote from: 03 on February 10, 2014, 02:05:01 PM
thats gorgeous but did they mean to cut the text off at the bottom like that?
The text is under the skin of the poster.
Teaser was much better. Those one-liners kinda ruined it for me.
The trailer was good even though I don't agree with the "we finally have an heir to Kubrick" line.
http://pitchfork.com/advance/384-under-the-skin/
Stream of Mica Levi's Under The Skin score
Jonathan Glazer ad for Nike
Point Blank much?
seems kinda crazy that noah is #1 right now, but overall not crazy because a fantasy movie in the lead is normal. still, the actual young adult novel got overtaken -- not bad, not bad. divergent i mean, which'll pass $100m today. but at #2. it was made for less and will earn more, but they probably spent more marketing money, maybe, noah was hugely marketed here in la, and i'm not sure who collects bible sales money, while i'm sure divergent book publishers are smiling. all young adult publishers continue to smile
^i saw that because i tried to boxofficemojo the number of theaters receiving under the skin tomorrow. i think only 1 los angeles theater, so it seems like a limited release. nymphoII also opens tomorrow, in one theater, the same theater that opened nymphoI
summary:
a field in england
snowpiercer
only lovers left alive
nympho I+II
grand budapest hotel
the raid 2
lego movie
under the skin
dgg's joe next weekend, and the immigrant is approaching -- samsong called that his favorite james gray movie, which is great and he hasn't said something like that since last week when we said it about lvt. you gotta wait one week to be blown away this year, it's a great fucking movie year, and i know this crowd knows it ends well (because pta is releasing a movie). i'm all pumped and someone please tell me when/how i can see this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3521442/
totally on topic here, you just can't tell. looking forward to at least a couple liking under the skin, which will happen because obviously
Are you sure you're in the right thread?
Maybe try this one next time:
http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=5827.0
+/or i might start a 2014 movie topic. jk (it'd be lonely). excited about this earlybird surefire hit, the upstream color of 2014. that's basically what i'm saying: i'm excited
edit -- let excitement alone be the beginning of this page. hell yeah
wut
it's been a strong movie year. it's likely that people will see and like under the skin
got it? lemme know
dude you know what you're doing, every time you make a post. you're obviously not retarded, yet you made a post about the reception of various movies to be released in 2014 in a topic devoted specifically to ONE OF THEM. you could not have thought that no one was going to say anything about this. at this point, it seems almost like what you're going for.
got it?
You know what. I like a bit of cinephilic effervescence once in a while. Makes this place feel less dead.
LEAVE JENKINS ALONE!!!1!
Quote from: 03 on April 04, 2014, 02:45:53 PM
dude you know what you're doing, every time you make a post. you're obviously not retarded, yet you made a post about the reception of various movies to be released in 2014 in a topic devoted specifically to ONE OF THEM. you could not have thought that no one was going to say anything about this. at this point, it seems almost like what you're going for.
got it?
mhmm, said it because this is the first movie from 2014 that i think has a chance to be appreciated from an outside range, like from a tv perspective or etc. i know what i'm doing, i'm searching for movie talk. going for it. this isn't the first good movie of 2014, but it's the first that's a kinda dynamic beacon for nonmovie people. like i said earlier, pta will do that, oh for sure, but that's a december talk. i'm talking april
got it..that you're putting me down? i don't think you were unclear
Quote from: Axolotl on April 04, 2014, 03:04:42 PM
You know what. I like a bit of cinephilic effervescence once in a while. Makes this place feel less dead.
<3
xixax so doesn't need to be dead this year! it's such a good movie year. the fuss will be the fuss, but looking forward to movie chats
Agreed with Axo +1. Jenkins rants are ridiculously charming/fluid. Can't wait another week, I think a Persona/Sexy Beast screening is in order before watching.
^ <3
these are the release dates:
http://undertheskinmovie.com/release-dates
(also)
soundtrack:
http://www.juno.co.uk/products/mica-levi-under-the-skin-soundtrack/523835-01/
Quote from: Axolotl on January 30, 2014, 01:41:08 PM
Wow
This is a trailer. This is the most a trailer has ever worked on me.
Yeah same, nearly, that teaser is my new second favourite after this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEew7zvpAWE
Oh shittttttt. That was...that was :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup:
Can't wait to go back. Yes yes yes.
"The Dissolve: That's just faith in mankind, basically.
Glazer: It is, and I think that's precisely what the film was about. Shooting the way we did was about understanding that the methodology and the narrative were the same thing, and they were equivalent. It's a kind of perfect storm of all of those ingredients, and when you go into it, you're absolutely clear, conceptually, that what you're doing is right."
Great interviews:
The Dissolve
http://thedissolve.com/features/interview/496-director-jonathan-glazer-on-under-the-skins-comple/?utm_content=buffer74373&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Walter Chaw:
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2013/09/telluride-13-ffc-interviews-under-the-skin-director-jonathan-glazer.html#more
Filmmaker Magazine (Sound Design):
http://filmmakermagazine.com/85224-groundbreaking-work-often-sits-at-the-boundaries-of-technology-sound-designer-johnnie-burn-on-under-the-skin/#.Uzwkyl5dWrU
Well, there was ten teenage girls in my screening. They were laughing at the movie, speaking loud, saying "Shut up" when we asked them to be quiet. I called the security guard thirty minutes in the movie. Ten minutes for the girls to leave the theater (THEY WERE SO MANY).
I don't think I was able to experience the movie.
Anyway, I thought there were some great ideas...or glimpses of ideas? It's all about watching the world from an alien perspective; but I thought it didn't went far enough; it became repetitive. I don't want to revisit the movie. The movie gave me the impression to revisit it while I was watching for the first time.
Weirdly, I had ideas, feelings about cinema, during the movie; as if I was thinking about the movie that could exist under the skin (see what I did here?!) of the actual movie.
Quote from: Drenk on June 26, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
Anyway, I thought there were some great ideas...or glimpses of ideas? It's all about watching the world from an alien perspective; but I thought it didn't went far enough; it became repetitive. I don't want to revisit the movie. The movie gave me the impression to revisit it while I was watching for the first time.
Weirdly, I had ideas, feelings about cinema, during the movie; as if I was thinking about the movie that could exist under the skin (see what I did here?!) of the actual movie.
Pretty much how I feel about it. The second part too. But I kept of thinking Yorgos Lanthimos. And ScarJo as a terminator.
Glimpses of great ideas, yeah. It had its appeal and creepiness, the score was memorable too. I also think those void/seduction scenes may become iconic. They certainly impressed me anyway. The film had a cool stylistic element to it which I really admired but it wasn't consistently maintained throughout (not that it would have been appropriate), it was like a dark futuristic desolation. It reminded me of old creepy scifi paperbacks/tv shows and going to the darkened horror section of the video store when I was young. But obviously updated.
Oh yeah, looking back, I'm also reminded of The Cell. And I suddenly want to see Shane Carruth do a proper horror film.
So yes, it certainly made me think of a bunch of other works, styles and feelings while maintaining its own identity.
SPOILERSI was kinda disappointed that the film became a sort of 'mankind and earth is cool, maybe I can be hooman etc' or whatever but I became more understanding of it as it continued. The later scenes are good, especially where she's confused and terrified- a marked change from her cool manipulative nature early on. It was probably one of the few ways the story could develop really. The character's demise was a bit unexpected though, I liked the individual sequences leading up to it but by that late stage I actually wanted to see more of her actions. And perhaps I wanted to see more of her boss during the climax, he has a big chase and then he's like 'righty-o, guess she's gone'. Feels wasted in a way.
i don't see how it could take the idea further
spoiler because i plot synopsis
i viewed it through a human lens, as a woman entering the routine of male-female relationships, and she's mistreated and she mistreats back, then she finds a curveball, then she experiences new perspectives, then she's placid with someone, then as she adjusts her orientation what happens, a terrible other-possibility happens
went straight to my perspective on the movie. i don't see a shortage of ideas. but also i had to read a synopsis to learn she was actually an alien, like deliberately an alien. thought that was a metaphorical tactic. but i guess the movie's more like an allegory or something. the definitely part: i don't think the emotions could be taken further because i think they go quite far
Quote from: Drenk on June 26, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
Anyway, I thought there were some great ideas...or glimpses of ideas? It's all about watching the world from an alien perspective; but I thought it didn't went far enough; it became repetitive. I don't want to revisit the movie. The movie gave me the impression to revisit it while I was watching for the first time.
Weirdly, I had ideas, feelings about cinema, during the movie; as if I was thinking about the movie that could exist under the skin (see what I did here?!) of the actual movie.
I don't think those two things are separate. Emotions evoked in me directly toward the film doesn't seem accidental. At specific points my feelings toward the film were the same or similar to feelings of character toward surrounding world. This is probably strongest and at the same time weakest part of a film.
Possible spoilers. Just to point out in chronological order:
- curiosity: what films is about / what this place is
- routine: repetition for audience / daily routine for character
- alienation: I couldn't anchor myself, everything was too thin / character doesn't fit
- surprise: something unexpected happens
- connection: this is the part, were I felt closest to character / character finds some place for a moment
- distress: I've problems with putting it together
- demise: I'm ready to let go
At the moment I'm unsure if I like "Under The Skin" or not, since I like to strongly respond to films, were here I was alienated for the most part (weakest/strongest side pointed out earlier).
btw. I almost forgot about funniest moment with Tommy Cooper:
I really dug this film. Glazer is known for doing some great videos, and you can kinda see elements of those here - Rabbit in Your Headlights, Karma Police.
I guess since the US theatrical date was 2014 this will count as a 2014 film for my ongoing list. It sits at the top for the time being.
Much has been said, and I'm very late to the party, so I'll keep this brief.
I feel like Under the Skin was a missed opportunity. With some adjustments — which are well within Glazer's ability — this could have been one of the greatest films ever made. On balance it's still pretty great, but I'm frustrated.
So many images from this movie are still haunting me and will probably remain vivid in my memory for years. Absolutely mindblowing stuff. However... probably 20% of the running time needs to be cut. The mundane scenes are just not compelling enough, and it even occurred to me in the moment how much worse they would be upon rewatch. Those parts aim for Kubrick and fall quite short.
I'd be more severe than Jeremy. The movie feels to me like a failed experimentation. The first scenes present almost no variation. No reality. Or maybe that's what Glazer wants. If an alien were coming in England to steal something from men, it would probably as boring as it depicted. But I think that fiction, in order to provoke a realistic feeling —of course, I'm just talking about what I feel by making this universal—, needs to bring something extraordinary.
I dislike the movie, but I'm also haunted by some moments. But I don't appreciate the movie more because of these moments. It just makes me wonder about a movie that simply isn't the movie Glazer intended to make.
Quote from: Drenk on October 27, 2015, 11:46:03 AM
I dislike the movie, but I'm also haunted by some moments. But I don't appreciate the movie more because of these moments. It just makes me wonder about a movie that simply isn't the movie Glazer intended to make.
I dislike the movie as well but some images do haunt me. Still. The images that do haunt me feel like cheap scenes that would haunt any viewer in almost any context because the idea is disturbing enough.
Spoiler but i'm thinking about when the husband drowns trying to rescue his wife and the baby is left for dead. I felt like that was more taking advantage of something than anything.
I rewatched it two weeks ago and felt the opposite. Liked it more, got into the whole sexual odyssey with more resonance.
Loved her performance.