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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2004, 12:59:10 PM »
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one of my favorite little moments from the movie...when they're discussing the girl ordell is gonna get for the exchange:

"and don't get some rock-hoe - "

"hey HEY, she ain't gonna BE no rock-hoe."


Hehehe, yeah, that was great.

I also like the whole "country as a chicken coop" speech...
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2004, 02:35:49 PM »
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I rank this as Tarantino's best film (have not seen Mata a el Bill - Volume 2 yet). Its pace, humour, music, characters, performances... everything's in the right place here. This is almost just talk talk talk, and I can't grow tired of listening to them. Jackie B. is one of my all-time faves.


it's my personal favorite, but i still think PF is his best, on the basis that no one but tarantino could have given us a film like that.  jackie brown could have been a good film in other hands, i think (altho tarantino knocked it out of the fuckin park) and kill bill (now as one complete film I judge it) is too new, let's see how it holds up (tho i'm expecting it to get better with age as his other films)
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2004, 04:11:53 PM »
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Dialogue - great.  Style - cool.  It really is such a funny movie, too.  Like when Melanie is telling Louis about when she was in Japan and then out of the blue says "Wanna fuck?"  There's a couple of lines like that, where in the delivery they become laugh-out-loud funny.

he stole that line/set-up from the Hal Ashby film Shampoo with Warren Beatty and Julie Christie.  also: i think personally, although i like this film alot and saw it on christmas (opening) day in the theatres in 1997, its the only film where the dialogue seemed a little TOO qt.  like, took me out of the movie because it seemed like how characters in one of his movies should talk instead of how people might actually talk.  its a good film, but cant touch the fiction.
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2004, 05:03:01 PM »
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and kill bill (now as one complete film I judge it) is too new, let's see how it holds up (tho i'm expecting it to get better with age as his other films)


I haven't seen Volume 2 yet, but if it's as good as 1 was, I think it has a great chance to top Jackie Brown. (I also think when I see it, I'll look at it as one movie as well...)
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2004, 06:41:15 PM »
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unfortunately its not.
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2004, 06:59:56 PM »
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now now dont discourage him....there are those of us that are of the opinion that volume 2 was more satisfying, i happen to be one of them....though i do agree that it doesnt play as one film like vol 1 did but then again, it really couldn't

edit - did i contradict myself here?  ahh well, whatever my point was
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2004, 10:04:16 PM »
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QT's best film and QT's best cameo

Okay, so it's not really a "Cameo"
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2004, 11:24:41 PM »
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I haven't seen Volume 2 yet, but if it's as good as 1 was, I think it has a great chance to top Jackie Brown. (I also think when I see it, I'll look at it as one movie as well...)


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unfortunately its not.


thats right, its better  8)
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2004, 11:41:48 PM »
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QT's best film and QT's best cameo

Okay, so it's not really a "Cameo"


i know you just posted that post so those of us who weren't "in the know" would ask you "what cameo? qt wasn't in that movie! i never saw him in jackie brown!"

having said that, what cameo?
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2004, 11:50:12 PM »
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having said that, what cameo?


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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2004, 08:50:00 AM »
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Quote from: ElPandaRoyal
I haven't seen Volume 2 yet, but if it's as good as 1 was, I think it has a great chance to top Jackie Brown. (I also think when I see it, I'll look at it as one movie as well...)


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unfortunately its not.


thats right, its better  8)


I sure hope it is..... tomorrow is the day when I'll see it and later today I'll get my Vol.1 DVD finally.
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2007, 05:39:27 PM »
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can i just throw it out there that jackie brown is really good, and maybe QT's best movie? 

EDIT - this isn't a random thread bump, this was moved from the grind house thread. 
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2007, 06:09:08 PM »
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Quote from: JG on April 08, 2007, 05:39:27 PM
can i just throw it out there that jackie brown is really good, and maybe QT's best movie? 

Some people argue this, but I always look for a good reason why. Pulp Fiction is a hard film to pin down to an explanation. Jackie Brown is too. The easy explanation is that it has a plot, but I'd love to hear some ideas.
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2007, 06:32:20 PM »
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i would love to talk about jackie brown, but i don't want to talk about it without rewatching it.   just give me a couple months to come up with a satisfying post that i won't later regret.  but it'll probably start out being about jackie brown and then i'll end up talking about antonioni or bresson or something.   
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Re: JACKIE BROWN
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2007, 09:09:39 PM »
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This is probably my second favorite Quentin movie. It's not perfect and it drags a bit but it's his most mature movie yet. His later work is much weaker in comparison.
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