Upstream Color

Started by tpfkabi, December 09, 2011, 06:58:37 PM

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RegularKarate

Fuck, I love that trailer.
This is close to the top of my list for movies I'm looking forward to most. I just watched this three times in a row... if I weren't at work, I'd keep watching it.

md

Anyone else recognizes the similar soundscape from the trailer?  Its about a half step difference. 



I understand that Shane Carruth did the scoring himself, and it is nonetheless impressive and appropriate, but geez, even the most stubborn and resistant indie filmmakers love to copy current hollywood fads. 

This was also shot on a GH3, I believe.  I think that's what Matt uses for his shorts?
"look hard at what pleases you and even harder at what doesn't" ~ carolyn forche

matt35mm

Quote from: md on January 16, 2013, 10:46:00 AM
This was also shot on a GH3, I believe.  I think that's what Matt uses for his shorts?

Do you have a source for this? I've been curious about what it was shot on. Nevermind, I found a few sources and even a behind-the-scenes picture with the GH2. Excellent.

I use a hacked GH2. The GH3 only came out a month ago, I think.

Kellen

God damn!  Can't wait to check this out.

Bethie

I have not been following films, I am ashamed.

what a glorious surprise I've stumbled upon.

shane carruth is one smart man.
who likes movies anyway

Champion Souza

The Playlist has the soundtrack here.

I've been listening to it for the past couple days.  Kind of has a Cliff Martinez sound.  Really good. 

max from fearless

An Interview with Shane Carruth on the score for Upstream Color
by Bill Pearis


In 2004, Shane Carruth wowed Sundance Film Festival audiences with his heady time travel flick Primer, which he made with no prior filmmaking experience and shot (on film!) for a budget of around $7000. Carruth is finally back with its follow-up, Upstream Color, which premiered at this year's Sundance and The AV Club's Sam Adams called "one of the most transcendent experiences of my moviegoing life." Upstream Color will play NYC's New Directors/New Films Festival in March and the film opens theatrically at the IFC Center on April 5. The DVD and Bluray will be out soon after, May 7. Like Primer, Carruth did almost everything on Upstream Color himself, including the soundtrack which was released today digitally and on vinyl. Ethereal and somber, Carruth's score definitely comes from the Eno, Vangelis and early John Carpenter school and, while I haven't seen the film yet, it's a lovely listen on its own. Shane was also nice enough to answer a few questions about his Upstream Color score and you can read that below.

BV: You are truly a DIY filmmaker, handling almost all aspects of production, including the score. I imagine for Primer, you did the score yourself for budgetary reasons. Did you consider hiring an outside composer for Upstream Color?
Shane Carruth: The short answer is no, I didn't. Something happened in the writing where I started to understand the emotional weight of what was being explored, the romantic promise that exists when characters are broken to their core. At that point I fell so hard so fast for the story that I couldn't have waited around for a another composer if I wanted to. So I would compose at the same time as writing the screenplay and let each affect the other in real time.

Both the Primer and Upstream Color soundtracks have a similar vibe. Did you approach the score to the new film differently? A different set of goals?
I view them as vastly different works, but maybe that's just me. I'm so grateful for the response that Primer has had, but I'm a bit insecure about its rough edges and that goes for the music too. Upstream is something I could not be more proud of in both its ambition and execution. The music is more accomplished I think and is so much in service of the exploration that it's hard for me to sever in it my head from the visual language. The film has an aesthetic of tactility, mania, and being affected at a distance so the music always relays the subjective experience of the characters, not what the audience is meant to feel which can be two different things.

You were an engineer before Primer. What is your musical background?
None.

Is the score entirely keyboard/sample based or are their live/organic instrumetns involved? (It's hard to tell anymore.) What do you compose/record on?
It's a combination of everything. There are real instrument recordings, synths, and samples that start as soundscapes but have been converted to instruments by pitching (ex. the hum of underwater sodium lights). Everything is done on my laptop and Logic is the software I use the most.

Do you make music when not working on a score? Ever been in a band?
Not really, no.

What are some of your favorite soundtracks? Composers? What are you listening to these days?
Just referencing the most played albums on my phone (no order):

1. The Appointment - John Barry and Michel Legrand
2. Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud - Miles Davis
3. Shame - Harry Escott and Various
4. Vertigo - Bernard Hermann
5. Channel ORANGE - Frank Ocean

You're releasing the Upstream Color score on vinyl. Are you a vinyl enthusiast? How many copies are you pressing?
I've become one very recently. I dismissed the whole idea for years, but I can't deny there is a real quality to vinyl that I've been missing. I haven't delved into whether it's imagined or not, but even the simple ritual of setting a record spinning has become something I go to to relieve anxiety. We've pressed 500 this time.

Pubrick

9 years between his first and second films. AND he started at 32.

freely admits he doesn't know shit about music but scores his films anyway. shoots on things we can all get our hands on.

THIS is someone losers like us can look up to (with exception of the few winners in our midst).

although.. 9 years. NINE.
under the paving stones.

©brad

Agree. But I think the 9 years is the most inspiring part.

Alexandro

9 years can fly by.
the thing is to do it.

Cloudy

This guy really just baffles me on so many levels. Thanks for posting the interview.

Quote from: max from fearless on February 23, 2013, 06:31:01 AM
Something happened in the writing where I started to understand the emotional weight of what was being explored, the romantic promise that exists when characters are broken to their core. At that point I fell so hard so fast for the story that I couldn't have waited around for a another composer if I wanted to. So I would compose at the same time as writing the screenplay and let each affect the other in real time.

This guy is a film-making chemist.

jenkins

he said tonight, has this been reported, that he's self-releasing and has booked 42 theaters

i saw a clip-o-matic trailer for atropia (and for looper, 'cause johnson moderated the q&a). such a trailer is a composite of pre-existing movie clips (jurassic park, e.g.) and designs for the new feature. it's basically a proof of concept for producers. there was test footage of robotic animals

upstream is really gorgeous and sweeping. everyone's going to have a lot of praise and questions for lowery. the editing is as important as the cinematography, which is as important as the script. obviously this kind of harmony made this movie electric and forward thinking cinema

and i need to see it again, it's one of those


Cloudy


Lottery

Quote from: trashculturemutantjunkie on March 05, 2013, 01:06:05 AM
he said tonight, has this been reported, that he's self-releasing and has booked 42 theaters

i saw a clip-o-matic trailer for atropia (and for looper, 'cause johnson moderated the q&a). such a trailer is a composite of pre-existing movie clips (jurassic park, e.g.) and designs for the new feature. it's basically a proof of concept for producers. there was test footage of robotic animals

upstream is really gorgeous and sweeping. everyone's going to have a lot of praise and questions for lowery. the editing is as important as the cinematography, which is as important as the script. obviously this kind of harmony made this movie electric and forward thinking cinema

and i need to see it again, it's one of those

Sounds fantastic.

The screenplay for A Topiary was dense but incredibly unique. Obviously Carruth would be Acre Stowe.

He really does seem to have his heart in A Topiary despite the fact he'll be directing The Modern Ocean soon. Anyone have any info on that one.

jenkins

it sounded like mixed trouble with special effects and money keeps him from a topiary

the thing he said about the modern ocean is that he thinks upstream color is a thousand times better than primer and at least in his opinion this new one is a thousand times better than upstream color

in addition to the self-releasing he designed the poster and cut the trailer. he said he'd often say "nevermind, I'll do it"