Nominations in top categories for the 46th annual Grammy Awards announced today:
1. Record of the Year: "Crazy in Love," Beyonce featuring Jay-Z; "Where Is the Love?" Black Eyed Peas and Justin Timberlake; "Clocks," Coldplay; "Lose Yourself," Eminem; "Hey Ya!," OutKast.
2. Album of the Year: "Under Construction," Missy Elliott; "Fallen," Evanescence; "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below," OutKast; "Justified," Justin Timberlake; "Elephant," The White Stripes.
3. Song of the Year: "Beautiful," Linda Perry (Christina Aguilera); "Dance With My Father," Richard Marx and Luther Vandross (Luther Vandross); "I'm With You," Avril Lavigne and The Matrix (Avril Lavigne); "Keep Me in Your Heart," Jorge Calderon and Warren Zevon (Warren Zevon); "Lose Yourself," J. Bass, M. Mathers and L. Resto (Eminem).
4. New Artist: Evanescence; 50 Cent; Fountains of Wayne; Heather Headley; Sean Paul.
5. Pop Vocal Album: "Stripped," Christina Aguilera; "Brainwashed," George Harrison; "Bare," Annie Lennox; "Motown," Michael McDonald; "Justified," Justin Timberlake.
6. Rock Album: "Audioslave," Audioslave; "Fallen," Evanescence; "One by One," Foo Fighters; "More Than You Think You Are," matchbox twenty; "The Long Road," Nickelback.
7. Rap Album: "Under Construction," Missy Elliott; "Get Rich or Die Tryin'," 50 Cent; "The Blueprint 2: The Gift & the Curse," Jay-Z; "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below," OutKast; "Phrenology," The Roots.
Best Alternative Music Album: "Fight Test," The Flaming Lips; "Hail To The Thief," Radiohead; "Untitled," Sigur Rós; "Elephant," The White Stripes; "Fever To Tell," Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
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6. Rock Album: "Audioslave," Audioslave; "Fallen," Evanescence; "One by One," Foo Fighters; "More Than You Think You Are," matchbox twenty; "The Long Road," Nickelback.
for fucks sakes...
where I come from, rock'n'roll is Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Oasis, The Black Crowes...
no wonder "rock music" isn't popular anymore, if that's what they're calling rock.
Nickelback must die. The worst possible thing my province could contribute to the world of music...
Fountains of Wayne aren't new at all.
Nice to see White Stripes recognized.
Still... this has to be the most worthless and cheesy of worthless, cheesy awards. I always get a kick out of the jokes on The Simpsons about The Grammys. They somehow always end up in the trash can or something. Perfect.
Quote from: MacGuffin2. Album of the Year: "Fallen," Evanescence
4. New Artist: Evanescence
6. Rock Album: "Fallen," Evanescence;
Seeing them nominated at all just made my day...Seeing them nominated
3 times made my week......
When White Stripes' Elephant was released I told my friends it would be nominated for Best Album.
I was right.
I thought the same thing about Hail to the Thief.
I was wrong.
My guess is it would either be one or the other.
I added the Alternative Catagory above, in case it was missed. If you're curious about other catagories, let me know and I'll look 'em up. The list of nominations is very, very, very, very, very, very looooooong.
To add some more:
Best Score Soundtrack Album For A Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media
Catch Me If You Can - John Williams, composer (John Williams)
Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets - John Williams, composer (John Williams)
The Hours - Philip Glass, composer (Philip Glass)
The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers - Howard Shore, composer (Howard Shore)
Seabiscuit - Randy Newman, composer (Randy Newman)
Best Song Written For A Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media
Act A Fool (From 2 Fast 2 Furious) - Christopher Bridges & Keith McMasters, songwriters (Ludacris)
The Hands That Built America (From Gangs of New York) - U2, songwriters (U2)
I Move On (From Chicago) - Fred Ebb & John Kander, songwriters (Catherine Zeta-Jones & Renée Zellweger)
Lose Yourself (From 8 Mile) - J. Bass, M. Mathers & L. Resto, songwriters (Eminem)
A Mighty Wind (From A Mighty Wind) - Christoher Guest, Eugene Levy & Michael McKean, songwriters (The Folksmen, Mitch & Mickey, And The New Main Street Singers)
This has to be the most boring Gram-me nominee group yet, for the most part. Where has music gone this year and where is it going? The talent is really lacking excpet for a few. Outkast should win Record Of The Year.
I like most of the nominations... seems fair
that best alternative album is hard to vote on. . . i guess if i had to choose it'd be hail to the thief, but im just not sure.
Quote from: Pedro the Wombathail to the thief
fuckin' pop music. grammy's= ghey.
Quote from: SoNowThenNickelback must die. The worst possible thing to contribute to the world of music...
I couldn't agree with you any more on that statement, but I'll leave your province out of it.
My favorite band snagged a spot but highly doubt they will win. I didn't hear about the contenders.
Best Rock Instrumental
Allman Brothers Band-Instrumental Illness
FYI, but I am sure you folks know how they are nominated.
SONG goes to songwriters only.
RECORD goes to songwriter, performer and producer of a single track (doesn't have to be released as a single).
ALBUM is like RECORD, except it gets really nutty cuz it can include many if there are multiple song writers and producers (which happens a lot in pop and rap nowadays), as well as performers.
GRAMMYS are nominated and awarded by recording industry professionals WHO HAVE PAID FINANCIAL MEMBERSHIP DUES. Interesting to note that these awards were never meant to reflect the interests of the general public (supposedly Dick Clark's American Music Awards were designed to circumvent this lock out of the public, by looking at sales reports, projections and charts, thoughthey add a PR flavor to things by using random questionaires). This is a major misconception since ceremonies are broadcast in prime time . Also, not all recording artists pay dues, so they are not allowed to nominate or otherwise vote. These rules are pretty much the same for OSCARS and EMMYS. YOu pay your dues (literally) you cast your vote.
Quote from: MacGuffinBest Alternative Music Album: "Fight Test," The Flaming Lips; "Hail To The Thief," Radiohead; "Untitled," Sigur Rós; "Elephant," The White Stripes; "Fever To Tell," Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
For the most part I noticed this thing was swamped with rap, then I saw this one. Very good picks. So hard that I can't even pick. Well, I can kick out the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, but that makes it even harder to narrow down. By Fight Test do they Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots?
Quote from: MacGuffin4. New Artist: Fountains of Wayne.
what a fucking joke! NEW artist, huh? uhh, they've only been putting out albums for like 7 years. its their 3rd cd for gods sake?!? just because the lowest common denominator finally decided to take notice, hardly qualifies them for best new artist.
but like godardian said. the grammys dont mean shit. it has no effect on music and is almost guaranteed to sink the careers of anyone who walks home with all the awards (joan osbourne norah jones, et al).
Quote from: themodernage02what a fucking joke! NEW artist, huh? uhh, they've only been putting out albums for like 7 years. its their 3rd cd for gods sake?!? just because the lowest common denominator finally decided to take notice, hardly qualifies them for best new artist.
Didn't the same thing happen to Shelby Lynne? She had been putting out country and folk albums for years, but all of a sudden she turns a little edgier (and dyes her hair blonde) and all of a sudden she was nominated for best new artist. I think she even mentioned the 'long time coming' in her acceptance speech.
since when does anyone care about grammys.
i say this every year.
record of the year:....hey ya!
album of the year:.....elephant...
song of the year:.....lose yourself...
new artist:......50 cent....
pop vocal album:.....justified..
rock album:.......audioslave
rap album:.....speakerboxxx/the love below
best alternative music album:......hail to the thief
these are locks.....
Quote from: Psince when does anyone care about grammys.
i say this every year.
exactly... a grammy winner usually translates into:
utter shit.
"So, I, uh, guess this doesn't really mean anything." - Eddie Vedder accepting a Grammy in 1995.
Quote from: European Son"So, I, uh, guess this doesn't really mean anything." - Eddie Vedder accepting a Grammy in 1995.
Awesome...yeah, the Grammys are like music critics, they just go with what the public likes, and the public is dumb. With film, there's a general rhythm to it, if the movie has it, most people can pick up on it and like it, and critics can tell us if it's generally good or not, and most would agree. With music, I never listen to fucking critics, because I likes what I likes and they can't ever hear the same album I'm hearing (although you could make this point about movies, music is more accessible and isn't telling a story, just audiblizing an emotion).
Predictions for tonight?
Outkast!
I love music but I hate the industry.
How come popular music becomes drivel? If it's popular, it should be really good, right?
I don't know, Grammy's are usually a beacon of sellout hood. It dosen't mark the untalented. Very much the opposite. They played the game, rode their popularity wave, and made their money.
Did they do anything for music? Eh. Pick up your newest Rolling Stone and read how they kiss the artist's ass so you know it's ok to listen to them.
Not all mainstream music is crap, but at some point, it seems many artists just give up and become tripe.
Music is a cruel mistress.
Quote from: Walrus, KookookajoobI love music but I hate the industry.
Don't say industry
Quote from: MacGuffinPredictions for tonight?
1. Record of the Year: "Hey Ya!," OutKast.
2. Album of the Year: "Elephant," The White Stripes.
6. Rock Album: "Audioslave," Audioslave;
7. Rap Album:"Speakerboxxx/The Love Below," OutKast;
Best Alternative Music Album: "Hail To The Thief," Radiohead;
Beyonce wins five Grammy Awards
Beyonce captured a record-tying five Grammys on Sunday for her solo debut album "Dangerously in Love," while Justin Timberlake had two and apologized for his role in Janet Jackson's Super Bowl flash.
Jackson's breast-baring at the hands of dance partner Timberlake remained the major subplot, as CBS and Jackson offered conflicting reports about why she was not at the Grammy telecast. And CBS, which also televised the Super Bowl, instituted a five-minute delay on the "live" broadcast to avoid any more scandal.
"I know it's been a rough week on everybody," said Timberlake, stifling a self-deprecating laugh while accepting the award for best male pop vocal performance for "Cry Me A River." He brought his mother as his date.
"What occurred was unintentional, completely regrettable, and I apologize if anyone was offended," he said, adding: "This is officially the greatest moment of my life."
Beyonce also won best female R&B performance for "Dangerously in Love," best contemporary R&B album for "Dangerously in Love" and best R&B performance by a duo or group with vocals for "The Closer I Get To You," a remake she did with Luther Vandross.
Her five trophies tied a record set by Alicia Keys, Norah Jones and Lauryn Hill for the most Grammys won by a female artist.
"This is unbelievable. Performing was enough for me," an excited Beyonce said.
Vandross, who suffered a debilitating stroke last year, also won two other awards: best male R&B vocal performance for "Dance With My Father," and best R&B album for "Dance With My Father." Vandross is still recovering and was not well enough to attend.
OutKast, nominated for a leading six Grammys, had won two awards an hour into the broadcast: best urban/alternative performance for "Hey Ya!" and best rap album for "Speakerboxxx-The Love Below."
Accepting the best rap album trophy, OutKast's Andre 3000 stepped to the microphone, said, "Thank you," and headed back to his seat.
Detroit rock group The White Stripes won two awards - best rock song for Seven Nation Army and best alternative album for Elephant.
And Eminem's song Lose Yourself won him the best rap song and best male rap solo performance accolades.
The late Johnny Cash, and director Mark Romanek, won for best short form music video for the haunting song "Hurt." Cash's wife, who died a few months before him in 2003, won best traditional folk album for the posthumous release "Wildwood Flower."
Their son, John Carter Cash, accepted both awards. "I produced the record for my mother. It's amazing. She died last May, and she got to hear the record, she got to experience it before she passed on," he told the audience. "I think it's a swan song."
outkast won.
i'm confused, does this mean they suck? :yabbse-huh:
white stripes win over radiohead....funnny.
Quote from: Poutkast won.
i'm confused, does this mean they suck? :yabbse-huh:
Add one more:
OutKast's 'Speakerboxxx' Is Album of Year OutKast, the Atlanta duo who have won over both nightclubs and critics with their intricate, sprightly brand of rap, on Sunday saw their album "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below" become the first pure hip-hop project to win best album honors at the Grammys.
OutKast's buoyant, fresh music — defined by the playful hit "Hey Ya!," which members Andre 3000 and Big Boi performed on stage at Staples Center in front of a giant, emerald-green tepee — stood in sharp contrast to some somber moments at the 46th annual Grammy Awards.
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Record of the year is given to the single the voters in the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences deem the year's best recording overall, while song of the year is for songwriting. The award for record of the year Sunday went to "Clocks" by Coldplay, the British band that has now won Grammys in three consecutive years and has become a staple of alternative rock radio despite a style (earnest lyrics and melodic sophistication) that often contrasts with the other hit-makers of the day.
Coldplay lead singer Chris Martin, who often speaks out politically and did so at last year's show, used his acceptance speech to endorse Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry, the Massachusetts senator.
"We'd like to dedicate this to Johnny Cash and John Kerry, who hopefully will be your president one day," he said.
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One of the more lighthearted moments of the night was provided by 50 Cent, a performer usually known for more ominous behavior. The rapper with the violent persona as well as the best-selling album of 2003 was nominated for best new artist and expected by many to win. Evanescence, the hard rock band from Arkansas, instead won, but 50 Cent marched to the stage and, grinning, loped behind the winners before returning to his seat.
“Oh, what did I do?” said the modern rock act's Amy Lee in reaction.
Quote from: Pedro the Wombatwhite stripes win over radiohead....funnny.
Indeed.
If it hasn't been said before, Meg White is the WORST drummer in the entire history of rock! Their performance last night on the Grammys proves it. Jack White needs to drop her, become lead guitarist for The Strokes, and turn them into an Iggy Pop/Black Sabbath cover band. I realized that this is what needed to happen when I saw both bands at Radio City 2 years ago.
I knew as soon as the nominations were announced that Elephant was going to beat out Hail to the Thief for best Alternative album. People seem to love the idea that the Stripes recorded Elephant on a 4-track in a week. It's a decent album but come on. Kid Rock fans may disagree but Radiohead is doing the most interesting stuff in rock music today. But this is all a popularity contest anyway and Elephant sold better so... there it is.
But Outkast won album of the year so I can't complain too much.
Quote from: hacksparrowIf it hasn't been said before, Meg White is the WORST drummer in the entire history of rock!
she's also the hottest.
Quote from: Poutkast won.
i'm confused, does this mean they suck? :yabbse-huh:
Have no fear. I think the fact that Andre 3000 finished his acceptance speech by saying, "Stank you! Stank you! Stank you very much! You're smellcome," means that it's still okay to like them.
Quote from: hacksparrowKid Rock fans may disagree but Radiohead is doing the most interesting stuff in rock music today.
Mmmm, that's pretty presumptuous, isn't it? Or are you prepared to back up the generalization you seem to be making that one must like Radiohead to have taste or intelligence? I despise Kid Rock and most everything he stands for, yet I find Radiohead pretty darn uninteresting for the most part. Luke Haines is doing the most interesting stuff in "rock" music today.
Actually, I'm doing the most interesting stuff in rock music today. Nobody knows about it because I'm THAT avante-garde. Yeah!
But seriously, I love Radiohead, but I wouldn't call their music "rock", exactly...
Neither would/have they
Quote from: godardianQuote from: hacksparrowKid Rock fans may disagree but Radiohead is doing the most interesting stuff in rock music today.
Mmmm, that's pretty presumptuous, isn't it? Or are you prepared to back up the generalization you seem to be making that one must like Radiohead to have taste or intelligence? I despise Kid Rock and most everything he stands for, yet I find Radiohead pretty darn uninteresting for the most part. Luke Haines is doing the most interesting stuff in "rock" music today.
I was simply making a reference to the fact that Kid Rock had toilet paper with "Radiohead" written on it in one of his videos. It's quite possible that one can be a fan of both but I was just referring to that little jab he put in his video.
A lot of people find Radiohead uninteresting but I don't know... compared to more popular groups like Linkin Park and System of a Down, it just strikes me as more impressive and refreshing. I guess Radiohead is to their fans what mathematical theory is to mathematicians: they find it very exciting and brilliant, but no one else could give a shit.
And since I haven't heard Luke Haines, and since people called me on the "rock" thing, I'll rephrase my quoted statement:
Kid Rock fans may or may not agree with me, for it is entirely a matter of their own personal taste, but Radiohead is doing the most interesting stuff that I personally have heard in, for lack of a better phrase, Currently Mainstream Yet Alternative Rock-Oriented Music today.
I found System of A Down's first album very enjoyable.
Quote from: hacksparrowA lot of people find Radiohead uninteresting but I don't know... compared to more popular groups like Linkin Park and System of a Down, it just strikes me as more impressive and refreshing.
well, compared to most of the stuff on the radio that gets played, radiohead are probably more interesting than most of it, but shit man, its the RADIO! the radio is terrible.
hey, i like Radio! better than TV!
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: hacksparrowA lot of people find Radiohead uninteresting but I don't know... compared to more popular groups like Linkin Park and System of a Down, it just strikes me as more impressive and refreshing.
well, compared to most of the stuff on the radio that gets played, radiohead are probably more interesting than most of it, but shit man, its the RADIO! the radio is terrible.
Yes it is, but there's a lot of indie bands/artists that have little or no exposure that suck just as much as (or more than) the stuff on the radio. And on the flip side of that, just because something is on the radio or MTV, it doesn't automatically mean that it sucks.
I'm positive that every day, somewhere in the world, there are people pushing the limits of music, blurring the lines between genres (or not) and to great effect. I just personally have never heard many in recent times, nor do I know how to find them unless someone recommends them to me.
But ultimately, it comes down to personal preference which can't really be argued, just attacked or defended. I have this joke with my friends about Radiohead which stemmed from my quip one night that Beatlemaniacs are (DISCLAIMER: my intent is NOT to offend anyone's religious beliefs or musical preferences) the Born-Again Christians of music fandom because the fans think they're the musical messiahs and have a valid argument.
We went down the line of different major bands and finally stopped on Radiohead. I thought about it for a while and said that Radiohead fans are the Scientologists of music fandom (REPEAT: I am NOT trying to offend anyone in any way), because we all believe that this is the way music should be heading but everyone else thinks were crazy.
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I haven't heard Luke Haines
Look no further than here (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=1979) for info and tidbits, then waste no time doing yourself the favor of hearing at least something by one of his projects. And no, he doesn't pay me, I just believe him to be surpassingly brilliant and sharp- a real latter-day Phil Spector (minus the murder, so far at least). He's a master of instrument, sound, melody, and lyric, smart as a whip and talented as Spector, Bowie, and Morrissey combined. Almost anything by him is better than almost anything by anyone else.
Quote from: godardianAlmost anything by him is better than almost anything by anyone else.
Not with this mofo around!
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Quote from: godardian...Bowie...
You said the magic word.
You're not Luke Haines, are you? :wink:
Dave Matthews won a grammy!
CBS apologizes for Grammy act
From Associated Press
CBS has apologized to American Indians angered over a Grammy Awards performance by OutKast that featured frenetic dancing, feathers and war paint — which some called racist and degrading.
"We are very sorry if anyone was offended," said Nancy Carr, a CBS spokeswoman in Los Angeles.
As the final act of the Grammy telecast Feb. 8, OutKast's Andre "3000" Benjamin and several members of a dance troupe swirled wildly around a green tepee as he sang his "Hey Ya!"
Indians across the country were angered by the performance, which they say was disrespectful to their culture and a perpetuation of tomahawk-and-tepee stereotypes.
The San Francisco-based Native American Cultural Center called for a boycott of CBS, the Recording Academy and OutKast.
haha, oh great. the world is now officially terrible.
How Justin Timberlake manages to get nominated for "Best Album" and Radiohead don't is beyond me.
Hell, I can think of a handful of bands more deserving than he is.
My only consolation is that Outkast won. That album is ace.
Quote from: MyxomatosisHow Justin Timberlake manages to get nominated for "Best Album" and Radiohead don't is beyond me.
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because they are dum.
54th annual grammy nominees (http://www.grammy.com/nominees)
my picks:
Best Rock album- The Black Keys 'El Camino'
Best Rap album- Kanye West 'My Beautiful dark twisted fantasy'
Best Alternative album- Foster the People 'Torches'
Best Musical theater album- The Book of Mormon
Best Comedy album- Louis C.K 'Hilarious'
Best Producer- Danger Mouse ( 'Rome', 'Meyrin Fields', 'El Camino')
Best Rap song- I need a Doctor ( Eminem, Dr. Dre, Skylar Grey )
interesting.
my picks:
who gives a shit.