I've heard rumors of a "Goodfellas" Special Edition DVD coming out eventually. Anyone know anything about it? I'm tempted to buy the regular DVD :?
Go home and get your fucking shine box.
Rumor has had the Goodfellas SE coming out in spring for 3 years. Im betting if anything, a summer release with Casino, kind of like Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown, thats just what I think. Mac will get up on this
I doubt that both Casino and Goodfellas will be released at the same time. Two different studios. Maybe (just maybe) they're waiting for Gangs to be released on DVD so people see Gangs and Goodfellas and say, hey, 2 Scorsese movies. I just want a special edition. I don't want to buy the flip disc version.
I reported that a Goodfellas special edition dvd is scheduled for release in the fall, namely around october and september, in Britain. So I imagine it wouldn't be that far different for here either. I knew of this and picked up the cheap one anyways because i couldn't wait that long and it was only a $20 dvd.
~rougerum
Yeah, the flip disc one sucks. It has absolutely nothing on it. :cry:
I haven't even heard anything of a Casino SE. Has this been confirmed?
here's a new topic about this post. which movie did you like better? goodfellas or casino?
Quote from: rudieobhere's a new topic about this post. which movie did you like better? goodfellas or casino?
goodfellas.
Goodfellas
Goodfellas is great. But I have to go with Casino
Casino
it was under my assumption that there was going to be a scorsese box set with new versions of most of his popular movies...guffy, come help out with the specs
Goodfellas. The idea that casino came out second and was in same sytle/story as goodfellas will always hinder the movie when looked at through history. And anyways, Goodfellas gets down to the more honesty of just being in the mob. Casino shows it but plays itself out to be a traditional rise and fall of a man too, even if sharing a lot of similiar things with Goodfellas. The feeling of what it was like to be in the mafia and how goodfellas showed it will never be surpassed by Casino.
~rougerum
Quote from: sphinxit was under my assumption that there was going to be a scorsese box set with new versions of most of his popular movies...guffy, come help out with the specs
Couldn't find set specs, but the rumor mill lists the GoodFellas SE to be released sometime in Nov.
NOVEMBER?!!! I can't wait that long! Damn, now I'm gonna buy the flip disk, I know it.
Quote from: RecceNOVEMBER?!!! I can't wait that long! Damn, now I'm gonna buy the flip disk, I know it.
Do it
I think I'll hold onto my VHS for now, thank you.
I bought the flip-disk for only $10 at Wal-Mart.
'Wiseguy' Henry Hill Writes Guide to NYC
NEW YORK - Henry Hill saunters across Rockefeller Center, eyes hidden by dark sunglasses. He peers at the site of the famous skating rink, conjuring up an image of New York City past.
"Right there," he says wistfully. "My daughter used to skate there all the time."
Hill, the infamous mob informant portrayed by Ray Liotta in the classic film "Goodfellas," has many such scenes that endure almost solely in his memory.
He can summon the fabulous Copacabana, where Sammy Davis Jr. once sent him a bottle of champagne. He can revisit other old mob haunts: the Bamboo Lounge (burned out by an arsonist), Snoope's Bar (where John Gotti made his bones), Robert's Lounge (a dozen bodies buried beneath its bocce court).
All gone - but not forgotten.
Hill summons up much of his storied past in a new book, "A GoodFella's Guide to New York," a memoir-tourist guide-mob history. It's his second foray into publishing; last October, he released "The Wiseguy Cookbook."
Hill lives across the country now, in a quiet West Coast town of a few hundred people. He's no longer No. 1 on the mob retribution list - most of his contemporaries are dead or in jail, and the number of Mafia informants is now immense. Still, the Brooklyn native remains disinclined to stay too long in his hometown.
"I miss it," Hill says over coffee and a bagel - a New York bagel - one recent Manhattan morning. "Greatest city in the world."
Hill, his gray hair slicked back, wears a beige sweater and a smile that spreads slowly across his wrinkled, 60-year-old mug.
"But you know what?" he says, starting to laugh. "I'd rather breathe."
It's been 24 years since Hill, an associate of the Luchese crime family, opted for the Witness Protection Program over life outside the law. He became a devastating witness, and the best-known informant since Joe Valachi first broke the mob's vow of omerta back in the '60s.
Hill's criminal exploits, detailed in the best-selling book "Wiseguy" by Nicholas Pileggi were later turned into Martin Scorsese's 1990 film "GoodFellas."
In his guide, Hill reveals that Scorsese never let him meet with Liotta, his on-screen alter ego. "He didn't want me to influence him whatsoever," writes Hill.
Robert De Niro, in contrast, endlessly quizzed Hill for insights into the character based on Jimmy "The Gent" Burke.
Hill and co-author Bryon Schreckengost provide a tour of the city as filtered through the mobster's memories. "I'm about to show you a New York you've never seen," Hill says in the introduction. "My New York."
This is, of course, a New York that disappeared years ago, much as Hill vanished from the city after turning government witness in 1979.
Before that, Hill was a serious gangster. He was involved in two major criminal endeavors: the 1978 Lufthansa heist that netted $5.8 million, and the Boston College point-shaving scandal a year later. And he dabbled in crimes from hijacking to extortion to drug dealing.
In the book, Hill offers his take on everything from hotels to mob hits, from great restaurants to really bad guys.
- On the celebrity-owned restaurant Man Ray: "It would be a great place to rob."
- On Madison Square Garden: "We've run more bets at games that happened here than any other facility in the country."
According to Schreckengost, attorneys for publisher Random House nixed some of Henry's suggestions for the book. "They didn't want to reopen any old cases," he said.
Hill is not so leery of mob retaliation that he's dodging publicity. He did appearances at two West Coast book fairs, and VH-1 did a recent "Where Are They Now?" piece on Hill.
When he went for a walk on this trip to New York, Hill was recognized by three young men - and he enjoyed the attention.
"I'm a (expletive) icon!" Hill says, laughing. "Get out of here!"
http://www.goodfellahenry.com
Casino would make a good comic book. :(
I just remembered the part in Goodfellas when Ray Liotta talks directly at the camera and I shit my pants. I finally realized how fucking awesome this movie is. :(
There were many scenes in that movie where I could've potentially shat...
-the entire "go get your fuckin' shine box" and killing scene.
-the infamous shot into the club through the backway.
-Pesci's death.
-Jackon's death.
-the use of the fucking soundtrack.
-the freezing of shots.
... you know, I can just go on and on... best picture of the 90's hands down.
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-the entire "go get your fuckin' shine box" and killing scene.
do u know what the song that plays on the soundtrack while they kick his face in is called?
does anyone know?
"Atlantis" - Donovan
thank you very much, god what a great song
I just read on some random dvd site that the special edition of this is now gonna be in Feb 2004. Wtf? Will this fucker ever come out?
Hey, maybe cowboykurtis should've asked ol' marty when they met! :evil:
I just watched Goofellas for the first time.
I liked it and it was great but i was a little let down.
on the other hand
I also saw Donnie Brasco and it was good as shit. I enjoyed it more than Goodfellas and felt Depp was fucking Superb.
Quote from: BankyI just watched Goofellas for the first time.
I liked it and it was great but i was a little let down.
*bump
elaborate please.
FEBRUARY?! Man, and I waited till november without buying the flip disk.
Quote from: dufresneQuote from: BankyI just watched Goofellas for the first time.
I liked it and it was great but i was a little let down.
*bump
elaborate please.
well i saw Casino a few years ago and i really liked it. So many people told me that Goodfella's was way better than Casino so i was really hyped to see Goodfellas. I finally got it off Netflix and when i sat down to watch it i just felt let down. I mean i enjoyed it and thought it was a really strong movie but i guess the hype just thhrew me off.
it could also be that Casino looks so much better, and the Goodfellas dvd is total bunk...
Quote from: SoNowThenit could also be that Casino looks so much better, and the Goodfellas dvd is total bunk...
I think you're right.
Well, Casino and Goodfellas have so much in common, I always felt Casino was an evolution of Goodfellas. They're both awesome, but I think Casino is more entertaining and fun. Which isn't to say Goodfellas isn't, but you all know what I mean.
According to dvd.ign's Most Anticipated DVDs for 2004:
GoodFellas
Publisher: Warner Home Video
Publication Date: September
The Pitch: Finally, one of the best gangster movies gets a proper DVD treatment.
Why it's Going to Rock: Just having a new single-sided disc with a new transfer will be a blessing, as the current disc on the market is one of the first films released on DVD and you have to flip it part way through the movie. But this movie, along with other Scorsese masterpieces, will get a two-disc treatment with extensive input and involvement by Martin himself. De Niro isn't one for participating in DVD extras but I really hope he takes part in this one because it was one of his defining moments. Ditto Joe Pesci, who hasn't acted in years and has turned to a singing career.
I've been waiting to hear this for years.
that's great. i was just thinking they'd probably be doing that soon. i held out on recently getting Heat AND Enemy of the State AND Goodfellas which are ALL being put out in good editions soon, so my patience will be rewarded. 8)
Quote from: MacGuffinDitto Joe Pesci, who hasn't acted in years and has turned to a singing career.
I'm in shock, for I didn't know anything at all about his.
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niiiice!
It's a good thing I'm wearing these lazy-lounging around pants, cuz whew did I just make a mess....
are u ppl freaking out at the size of the pic?
cos the cover is no different from the old one except for the border and the banner on top.
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Well that's not true. They removed DeNiro's arms.
OMG UR RIGHT THAT NEW COVER IS SO GOSH DARN AMAZING
Title: Goodfellas
Starring: Robert De Niro
Released: 17th August 2004
SRP: $26.99
GoodFellas (Two-Disc Special Edition) - Based on the true-life best seller "Wiseguy" by Nicholas Pileggi Scorsese's movie explores the criminal life like no other and will offer the following features on this two-disc special edition set...
1.85:1 Anamorphic Widescreen
English DD2.0 Stereo and DD5.1 Surround
English, French and Spanish subtitles
Audio commentary by Martin Scorsese and Cast/Crew
Bonus commentary by ex-gangster Henry Hill and ex-FBI Agent Edward McDonald
4 new Cast/Crew documentaries:
Getting Made
The Workaday Gangster
The GoodFellas Legacy
Paper Is Cheaper Than Film
Theatrical Trailer
Quote from: coffeebeetleIt's a good thing I'm wearing these lazy-lounging around pants, cuz whew did I just make a mess....
Shit, it happened again.
Quote from: coffeebeetleQuote from: coffeebeetleIt's a good thing I'm wearing these lazy-lounging around pants, cuz whew did I just make a mess....
Shit, it happened again.
and it just keeps getting funnier...
This is a little annoying to me because coffeebeetle is using the same avatar that Tictacbk used to have.
lol i'm glad somebody noticed. I didn't wanna have to be the one to say something.
Quote from: Tictacbklol i'm glad somebody noticed. I didn't wanna have to be the one to say something.
Heh, that reminded me of the Far Side panel in which a guy wearing a fruity hat is entering a saloon and turns to his friend and says, "I can't go in there, that man is wearing the same hat as I am!"
apologies if these has been posted in another thread:
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How are the commentaries? Hope they go into detail on the one shot where they walk through the back of the restaurant. I'm gonna go buy it tomorrow.
Quote from: CinephileThis is a little annoying to me because coffeebeetle is using the same avatar that Tictacbk used to have.
Sorry guys. In no way was it intentional.
Quote from: RecceHow are the commentaries?
I'm somewhat disappointed. It was probably due to his being tied up with "The Aviator," but there's a lack of Scorsese in all the extras for the box set. The documentaries have new interviews with all others involved, but use footage of Scorsese at the time for his input. The commentaries sound like they're taken from interviews (some heard on the docs) and pieced together. Plus, they don't run the entire length of the films. But still, what they say is great stuff to listen to.
Quote from: RecceHope they go into detail on the one shot where they walk through the back of the restaurant. I'm gonna go buy it tomorrow.
Dunno what you're looking for specifically, but Scorsese goes more into the why it was done in one take, rather than the technical aspects. Ballhaus talks more about the logictics of the shot.
either way, it sounds prety good to me.
anyone notice the scratch down the center of the frame during the scene where deniro and sorvino tell liotta he's gotta back home to his wife. Out of nowhere, this scratch, or hair, runs down the center of the frame. Pretty odd since this is supposed to be cleaned up. Real nice transfer otherwise.
Quote from: jasper_windowanyone notice the scratch down the center of the frame during the scene where deniro and sorvino tell liotta he's gotta back home to his wife. Out of nowhere, this scratch, or hair, runs down the center of the frame. Pretty odd since this is supposed to be cleaned up. Real nice transfer otherwise.
I actually remember that being there when I saw it in theaters when it first came out, but I remember it being green. So there's your clean-up.
I've been watching this almost 3 times a day the last week, in love with the first 80-90%, but everything after the big bust seems to go downhill for me. the movie seems to have such a shitty, 'down' ending compared to the beautiful childhood section and the epic gangster life. anyone else feel this way?
Quote from: Brazoliangeanyone else feel this way?
Henry Hill.
haha open and shut.
just wondering, is this a blooper that made it into the movie? it just feels so because liotta seems to break character when the wig comes off. he starts to laugh but continues to act how the scene was scripted. but it feels a wee bit that it was a mistake. or not?
does anyone feel the same way? just wondering...
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Well, the scene does start with the commercial for Murray's wig store and how his wigs don't come off at the wrong time. It seems like the set up of a gag in the beginning and the punchline is his wig comes off at the wrong time, i.e. using the money he borrowed from Jimmy to pay for his commercial. Not a mistake; just an "a ha" moment.
thanks for sorting that out. it just had a realistic feel to it. which is great for a scorsese movie.
Getting Made The Scorsese Way
Source: GQ
Yes, indeed, The Godfather is masterful. The Sopranos? We never missed an episode. But you want to talk about a movie that leaves a mark? Twenty years after the release of GoodFellas, the good people behind it—Scorsese, Liotta, De Niro!—re-create the making of the truest, bloodiest, greatest gangster film of all time
It's hard to imagine that the obsessive and frenetic Martin Scorsese ever endured blue periods in his career, but twenty years ago, he was going through one. On the eve of the premiere of his new movie, GoodFellas, he was still recovering from the protests, denunciations, and death threats that had accompanied The Last Temptation of Christ. But GoodFellas—based on Wiseguy, a nonfiction best seller by legendary crime reporter Nicholas Pileggi—would restore Scorsese's place in American film, and then some. To mark the film's anniversary, GQ interviewed nearly sixty members of the cast and crew, along with some noteworthy admirers of the picture, to revisit the making of one of the most endlessly rewatchable American movies ever made.
Read More http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201010/goodfellas-making-of-behind-the-scenes-interview-scorsese-deniro?currentPage=1#ixzz10BDqdtKE
(10 page article with interviews with Scorsese and cast)
that was a pretty awesome read.
loved how the steadicam operator thought the copa shot was going to be boring, and marty pissed off about losing the oscar to kevin costner.
QuoteJohn Malkovich (actor): It sort of came at a bad time in my life, when I wasn't feeling well and didn't want to think about working. It's hard to explain why you end up in Eragon and not GoodFellas. But De Niro is fantastic.
Martin Scorsese On Board 'Goodfellas' Prequel TV Series With Nicholas Pileggi & Warner Bros.
Source: The Playlist
With the success of his and Terrence Winter's HBO series "Boardwalk Empire," Martin Scorsese's venture into cable television definitely looks like it has the potential to expand. There were reports of a planned television series based on the director's 1990 gangster classic "Goodfellas," with the film's scribe Nicholas Pileggi in the process of writing for a pilot and potentially more, but Scorsese's involvement in that was still in question at the time. Speaking with the U.K.'s Culture Magazine (via Digital Spy) though, Pileggi has confirmed that Scorsese is in fact on board, adding that the script will likely be set in a time before the rise of mobster Henry Hill, played in the original feature by Ray Liotta. "We're trying (to develop the TV series). I want to do it, Marty wants to do it, Warner Bros wants to do it," Pileggi revealed. "Of course, you can't pick up from 'Goodfellas,' since we murdered everybody, or rather, everybody was murdered! There's nobody left. But I think we're going to figure out a way to do the early years -sort of a prequel. The part of the movie people often like best is the opening third, where all the funny stuff is happening, and there's so much we could fit in." Pileggi's words make it sound like the project hasn't quite gotten the go-ahead, but we're sure once a direction comes through that Warner Bros. is pleased with, development will begin in earnest. No word yet on what role Scorsese will play in the project—whether he'll just advise, produce or actually step behind the camera—but, no doubt, there'll be more to come from this as the show's development progresses. The track record of feature-films-turned-television-shows isn't exactly reassuring but with the high-caliber teaming of writer, director and original producer Irwin Winkler, surely this one's in safe hands?
From this point on i will be editing any article posted from the playlist, crossing out all the irrelevant wank and leaving only the juicy goss.
that one wasn't so bad compared to the crap they've been posting lately, so i'll let it slide.
it has turned into SUCH a wanky piece of wank. i can only scan the headlines nowadays.
'Goodfellas' Series In The Works At AMC With Film's Nicholas Pileggi & Irwin Winkler
Source: Deadline
EXCLUSIVE: AMC's 1960s mad men may be soon joined by some goodfellas from the same era. The cable network, home of such acclaimed series as Mad Men and Breaking Bad, has put in development a series version of one of the most praised movies of all time, the 1990 Martin Scorsese mob classic Goodfellas. Nicholas Pileggi, who wrote the movie based on his non-fiction book Wiseguy, is on board to co-write the TV series adaptation with TV writer-producer Jorge Zamacona (Homicide: Life On The Street). The two will executive produce with the film's producer Irwin Winkler and his son David. Warner Horizon Television, the cable TV production sibling of Warner Bros, which distributed Scorsese's film, is producing the series.
The idea of turning Goodfellas into a series with Pileggi and Irwin Winkler on board has been percolating for a while. My colleague Mike Fleming wrote first about it in September 2010. The movie Goodfellas, which Pileggi co-wrote with Scorsese, stars Robert De Niro, Ray Liotta and Joe Pesci and follows the rise and fall of the Lucchese crime family associate Henry Hill (Liotta) and his friends from 1955 to 1980. It was nominated for six Oscars, including Best Picture and director, and won one, for best supporting actor (Pesci). In addition to Goodfellas, Pileggi has another 1960s drama project in the works, Ralph Lamb at CBS. James Mangold is attached to direct the project, based on the true story of Ralph Lamb, a cowboy-turned-Las Vegas sheriff in the '60s and '70s. After starting off with original concepts (Mad Men, Breaking Bad), AMC has been betting on series based on source material recently with The Walking Dead, based on a graphic novel, and The Killing, based on a Danish series.
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 10, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
AMC has been betting on series based on source material recently
and losing.
So, Goodfellas was just rereleased on theatres in Mexico for a week, I asume because of last year's 25th anniversary. in any case, it was a chance not to be missed and I saw it yesterday and tonight. :)
For all the countless times I've seen it, I had never appreciated the cinematography by Michael Ballhaus as much as I have in these couple of viewings. It also may be that the film was remastered and some tinkering has been done because it looks INCREDIBLE on the big screen. Textures and colors are vibrant and at the same time subtle, and there's plenty of atmospheric lighting with smoke and heavily directed light sources. So, well, it's a masterpiece but I'm here to ask if anyone has (in case if does exists) the original American Cinematographer article on this film, or any great read on the cinematography of goodfellas. I'd love to be able to read it.
I bought this on Blu ray and watched it after a stretch of many years. When I was younger, I rented a tape from blockbuster and illegally dubbed a copy for myself. I can't imagine how murky and fuzzy the image was, but I must've watched it like that a dozen times. So, this was no doubt the best version of it I'd ever seen. It's a movie I kind of wish I'd seen first as an adult, because I've run through it such a countless number of times that I'm numb to its brilliant visual theatrics, and they've been repurposed by so many directors since that nothing feels 'fresh' about them. Another thing about seeing this as a kid is it glorifies the gangster lifestyle in such an irresistible way that you kind of want to be these guys, this time around I couldn't believe how much I hated these people! Except Pauly, he seems to be the only one with any morals. Then I remembered someone mentioning on a podcast that through all of these really sadistic killings with Henry present, he's never a participant in the violence. He makes himself out to be a bystander in every scene, leaving all the flack on Tommy and Jimmy as the real bad guys. When he does get brutal, it's to defend his girlfriend who was raped. Who could argue with that? This Henry Hill's just an all American boy who somehow got caught up in this mess, but can you blame him? Look how fun it all seems to look!
So, my biggest takeaway from this viewing is that these men are not supposed to be liked, I'd never seen it from that perspective. I always thought they were pretty fucking awesome, to tell the truth. I used to hate the part when Tommy got whacked because he was the comic relief of the film, this time I was happy because he so clearly had it coming. Pesci really revels in this role, and you get the sense that he and Scorsese set out to make the most horrifyingly likable mob villain of all time. It even softens the blow that the most graphic killing is in the very first scene, when we come back around to his mother's house later on with him borrowing the knife, we've been exposed to much of his antics that it just seems silly. Enough time has passed that we don't connect that murder with the guy he is around his mom.
I guess the whole point of this post is that I wish I didn't wear myself out on this with a shitty VHS copy, so I could spend more time evaluating it with fresh eyes.
No, these characters are supposed to be liked. The perspective isn't someone from the outside. It's Henry Hill from inside and he's talking about his life in the only way he knows how to - by bragging about it. There isn't an outside perspective and the only time the script gets flipped and the view comes from the outside is when Henry is in witness protection and how he just realizes how much he misses the life. Sure, some desperation in his spiral down personally, but that characterization doesn't divorce itself too much from the tone of the first two thirds of the movie. The Wolf of Wall Street is an extended update on Goodfellas and the only addition is further delve into the antics of narcissism and craze run amok. And if you believe Scorsese's flippant remarks, Wolf of Wall Street is alluring because he was finally - after a 20 some year struggle - film a scene of someone snorting cocaine off a woman's ass. Mean Streets is a much more sober analysis on the perils of being a gangster and facing the day to day joys and struggles of the psyche on it. After Mean Streets, Scorsese aligned his introspection in gangster drama to completely different ends. Gangs of New York tried to go back to something more, but it was a mixed bag. I'm not saying this change is altogether bad. It was just a different focus and for me, had both good and bad results.
Quote from: Reelist on August 13, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
So, my biggest takeaway from this viewing is that these men are not supposed to be liked, I'd never seen it from that perspective.
Quote from: Gold Trumpet on September 08, 2016, 02:55:04 AM
No, these characters are supposed to be liked. The perspective isn't someone from the outside. It's Henry Hill from inside and he's talking about his life in the only way he knows how to - by bragging about it.
I was speaking from my own moral standings on them rather than how Scorsese wanted them to be portrayed. I probably didn't make that clear, but don't want it to be confused. Congratulations to us, we've successfully talked about this movie more than it had ever been in this thread!
Understandable point. As we get older and change, every viewing is a different experience in what we see and focus on. Doesn't matter what the film is. For a lot of us, Goodfellas is a benchmark film because it mostly likely was one of the first Scorsese movies we saw. It definitely was one to get fully behind and join in the chorus of being good because it's also so enjoyable.
Still, I can tell the type of story Goodfellas is has always been an interest for Scorsese. He's tried to evolve it later (very well done in Casino) and I don't think he will get more excessive or grandiose as he does in Wolf of Wall Street. The film badly needs an editor for extensive trimming, but it's also Scorsese staying true to the idea of lifestyle being a focus and when it's about excess, there is no idea of "too much" in what can be put in.
Tessa (https://twitter.com/tessastrain/status/938787701230325760) made a flowchart.
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Can just delete that rightmost node, and direct it to the bottom, but yeah, I dig it.