NYMPH()MANIAC

Started by Ravi, August 02, 2011, 12:35:10 AM

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Jeremy Blackman

Why on earth should they do that?

03

yeah don't tell them to do that!

matt35mm

They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

Lottery

Quote from: matt35mm on November 26, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

Artistically legitimate hardcore porn is all I've ever wanted.

jenkins

no way, he's right, that's the right thing to do, and someone needed to say it!
this proposal could end the tyrannical dominance of sparknotes within written form and finally (finally!) bring it to cinematic form
for years and years cinema has carried the shame of having complete artistic representations, and the end must be insisted
we don't want to hear what you have to say
or how you want to say it, no
no!
we want to hear like a summary about each thing
explain it to us through a form which couldn't exist without the total
break the total into its pure beauty
in 90mins
or fuck off
fuck off pals
'cause we don't wanna hear your garbage
i think i forget how this joke is going
i think Tictacbk was also joking
since he put "less explicit" like that, with quotations
and it's true that cutting a long form into two long forms, even after saying there's some business aspect, is bullshit. what's explicit? lvt can't buy into it because he was serious the first time. but he has financial supporters and knows other people worry about it, so ok, he'll do it if you insist, but what's explicit? the whole thing. you can decide what to take out. lvt already took out what wasn't needed and included everything that was. he made his piece and it was 5 hours long. he's an artist. i'm so chill with that

it's dangerous to assume everything cut will be sexual. and it's awful(est) if everything that's chosen to be cut is chosen for being too sexual!

enter the void has a director's cut (the longer version) and a release cut. the released cut has a reel omitted. what i've heard is noé decided, after sundance, to trim the movie by a reel. he approved, is what i've heard. and it's true the whole story works as complete as it can even with the reel missing. because the reel isn't necessary, as all it does it grow what's there without it, the movie might be better in its released cut. i've seen both of them many times, each time while they were in the theater, and it always felt to me like a heaven of cinema. obviously i preferred the longer. it was more of what i cherished

it's a popular tendency for a group of cinephiles to insist the shorter was better. apocalypse now for example. the weinstein company (oh my, yes) shortened the grandmaster for us release. there's the perception that the audience likes the movie shorter. another reason is it takes up less of your day. is that always true of the audience? i don't know. i don't care. give me the movie, all of it. a person like me, you coulda guessed, i'll take the whole piece

Ravi

Quote from: matt35mm on November 26, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

That's your solution to everything.

Tictacbk

Quote from: matt35mm on November 26, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

Isn't that what I said?


But for real, if you can cut 90 minutes of footage and all it does is make the film "less explicit," you can probably cut some of those minutes all together.

MacGuffin

"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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matt35mm

Quote from: Ravi on November 27, 2013, 12:00:04 AM
Quote from: matt35mm on November 26, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

That's your solution to everything.

No, my solution to everything is to move under the sea.

Quote from: Tictacbk on November 27, 2013, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on November 26, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

Isn't that what I said?


But for real, if you can cut 90 minutes of footage and all it does is make the film "less explicit," you can probably cut some of those minutes all together.

I misunderstood; I thought you meant they should do a 90 min un-explicit cut of the movie because I mis-read you as saying "a 90 minute cut" instead of "the 90 minutes [that were] cut" but I see now what you were saying. Oops.

jenkins

i wasn't completely sure and entirely misunderstood as well. i'd watch that. that'll already exist

while thinking of it the other way i thought i'd see it if it was like a Giorgio Moroder version of NYMPH()MANIAC. i'd watch that also probably, but we'd need a Giorgio Moroder

Pubrick

They should cut 90mins out of this thread.
under the paving stones.

jenkins

they is you, and you just did it! good biz work

there's a secret portion from earlier where i discuss my overall excitement for the full release. dead precedents can represent me: von stroheim's greed (the most famous of all?), apocalypse now, enter the void, various forms of metropolis. i added greed and have mentioned the others. i also think of the whole bloody affair and kill bill -- i've been waiting since kill bill was in the theater to see kill bill again, because i've been waiting for the whole bloody affair. it's played here but i couldn't go. it's like qt is telling me to take it in whatever form i can, it doesn't matter very much. is he saying that? callers, what do you think

Drenk

Ascension.

MacGuffin

Lars Von Trier's Racy 'Nymphomaniac' Gets Two-Part Release From Magnolia
BY MIKE FLEMING JR | Deadline
   
After much foreplay in the form of increasingly graphic trailers that to me skate the edges of pornography, the release plan for Lars von Trier's Nymphomaniac has come together. Magnolia Pictures has announced that von Trier has cut his work into two films. The first, Nymphomaniac: Part One, will open in theaters March 21 after premiering on-demand March 6. This will climax in the April 18 release of the second film, which first will be on-demand April 3.

Von Trier is no stranger to controversy, as witnessed by the dopey comments he made promoting Melancholia which resulted in getting banned from the Cannes Film Festival, but the subject matter of this film should sell itself. In fact, he has vowed to do no press as both films premiere in Denmark on Christmas Day. Despite that, I wouldn't be surprised if Magnolia has itself a multi-platform juggernaut that could be reminiscent of Last Tango In Paris, a squarely adult art film with something for everyone. That includes the voyeur crowd, as Magnolia boasts it has an unprecedented amount of explicit sex. The films haven't yet been rated, but getting an R would probably work against the multi-platform release pattern of this pic.

The first film tells the story of Joe (Charlotte Gainsbourg), a self-diagnosed nymphomaniac who is badly beaten and left in an alley. She's helped by an older bachelor, Seligman (Stellan Skarsgård), who takes her into his home. As he tends to her wounds, she recounts the erotic story of her adolescence and young-adulthood (portrayed in flashback by Stacy Martin). This film stars Shia LaBeouf, Christian Slater, Uma Thurman, Sophie Kennedy Clark, Connie Nielsen and Udo Kier. The second part focuses on Joe's adulthood and stars Jamie Bell, Willem Dafoe, Mia Goth and Jean-Marc Barr in addition to Gainsbourg, Skarsgård, Martin and LaBeouf.
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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Drenk

On demand? So...people are gonna be able to download it illegally before the actual physical release?  :ponder: Are they thinking about a premiere on YouPorn too?  :ponder:

I love France. Always the first to show naked women. It's out the first day of 2014.
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