What did you think of Matrix Reloaded?

[Pubrick]

"Revolutions" trailer from the video game "Enter The Matrix." Seems to have more/different footage than the one after "Reloaded":
http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/video/matrix3.mpeg

cheers bro.

"it's nice to hav sumthin to look forward to".

[Gold Trumpet]

I saw this movie and hated it. This is an overblown movie on so many scales. For one, the series has decided it will not act for the middle ground, but only the cultists already intrigued by the idea of philosophy as presented in the series. Thing is, I never could take it serious that someone would be standing around and talking all the drama while trying to make up for it through various fighting scenes utilizing every single possible way to kick, punch or shoot someone. The drama in this movie is utter bullshit. Nothing is shown, and everything is talked. The speaking of philosophy in this manner is out of context anyways when all the film really consists of in appeal is the larger than life fighting. Its a porn trying to be more serious than just a drama. The results are laughable and embarassing at the same. I admired the first Matrix a lot because it never got too much into this theory of filmmaking, and still operated as a very good action movie with story as other action movies. That's all gone here and the movie is an endless waste of how much someone can show in one film of this world that to the people who are not cultists and enthusiasts, is completely boring. Unlike the first movie, it never really can condense itself to bringing a situation out and following that to better relay its ideas. This movie could have been under 90 minutes even if done well.

Then there is the action and the waste of that. First off, it is handled badly. Instead of realizing that a murder scene or action scene is pretty much determined in success 90% by how it is introduced and built up and only 10% of what is actually shown, the action scenes come up all over the place. Only at the end, when I felt a focus for a story, did I feel the action, but even then I had complaints because the movie always extended the action scenes more than they had to. They would go on for so long that the effects of a person getting beat up or a car being destroyed simply started to dissappear. The movie was never able to variatize much on the action and seemed to rely on doing the same things over and over again. Instead of making these scenes amazing, they just made them feel like normal instances for the story. And also, the idea of having so many Smith's fighting Neo at once not only was bad because it just operated on the more is better level, but it also went to discredit a lot of the fighting in the first one which consisted on one on one fighting that seems to be thrown off in this movie as minor league stuff only. The movie should have tried to search for new ways of showing an action that would seem to begin out of the new story, instead of just an idea to making the action scenes themselves seem bigger than life. On the whole, the first Matrix built up what movies can do and the new one did little in bringing anything new to that style.

This movie did something postive for me though, and that was come to terms in really liking the first one. Expectations for the third are gone but I'm still seeing it. The trailer for the third felt exactly like the one for the second with variations in how the actors are shot and now Neo will fight Mr. Smith in the rain and likely (even if the trailer did not show it) will fight them all again. But of course, you know the significance of rain, it brings drama. *golf clap*

~rougerum

[Ghostboy]

GT, even though I liked Reloaded, I agree with pretty much everything you had to say there.

[Victor]

im with pubes. this fuckin thing rocked. especially the architect, way out of left field. im seeing it again tonight. it fuckin rocks. i dont have to say anymore, reread p's thing.

[Cecil]

i agree with p as well. i want to see the first one again now, maybe ill appreciate it a bit more

[Weak2ndAct]

The thing I love most about the movie is what's happening now.  Love it or hate it, a serious reaction has been provoked.  Everyone has their own interpretations, theories, opinions-- good and bad.  Hats off to the Wachowskis for making something that's more than a 2 hour escape that is instantly forgot on the way to the car.  

For the real frightening talk, see the AICN message board (what is it with everything being equated to orgasms/ejaculation over there?) or CHUD.  The posters are rabid.  Things have thankfully remained calm here... for now.

[Recce]

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Everyone I've told this too have said I'm nuts, but I have a theory about "The Matrix Revolutions". I think that the Zion 'reality'(I mean where the city is, supposedly the real world) is actually a Matrix within the Matrix. And it was created for that 1% of the population that don't accept the first matrix(as was explaned by that guy with the beard, the architect). That would explain how Neo was able to give off that EMP shockwave. Plus, it kinda explains why the decided to have him in a coma at the end. How convenient, so he can't tell anyone until the next film.

[Sleuth]

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Everyone I've told this too have said I'm nuts, but I have a theory about "The Matrix Revolutions". I think that the Zion 'reality'(I mean where the city is, supposedly the real world) is actually a Matrix within the Matrix. And it was created for that 1% of the population that don't accept the first matrix(as was explaned by that guy with the beard, the architect). That would explain how Neo was able to give off that EMP shockwave. Plus, it kinda explains why the decided to have him in a coma at the end. How convenient, so he can't tell anyone until the next film.

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I think that's a bit too much, but it had crossed my mind even back in part 1.  I think the power Neo had was because he is part of Agent Smith and Agent Smith is part of him now.  But I might be wrong, we'll just have to wait a whole 6 months to see
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[Recce]

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Yeah, but even though Neo and smith are combined in a way, he wouldnt have powers. Agent smith is a program. He's nothing outside the matrix.

[Sleuth]

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yes, but if Neo were connected to the machines ("I can feel them") in the real world because of his Agent Smith connection, then I could see that happening

[Recce]

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It jsut threw me off is all. In both films, they seem to have been bathing the film in logic. So, no matter what crazy stuff happened in the matrix, you'd accept it. And, despite the obvious sci-fi stuff, the 'real' world was realistic. But now this happens, which shouldnt be possible. Unless...

[SHAFTR]

Recce, I see what you are saying and it makes sense.

[RegularKarate]

SPOILERZZZZZZZ*****

Recce... I thought of that posibility briefly, but it's too easy... too simple... too "oh, I guess it was a dream inside a dream" Nightmare on Elm Street the Series-y

I'm going with the idea that Neo is a part of the Matrix now... he not only has the ability to see the code inside, but affect whatever's controlling the machines outside.... and Agent Smith is obviously a rogue agent now... he's no longer the program he was.... he's a virus himself.

[picolas]

*general spoilers*

just saw it....      

yes, the criticism against it is well-founded, but the overall specialness of it all pretty much outweighs everything. it's a joy to watch (mindblowing? yes!) and it's got that thing about it that the original did. you can watch it an endless number of times and continue to discover new things. i think. and it's left me with the hugest want to know: WHAT THE FOCK ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW? (along with the standard "what the fock?" in general)

in terms of comparing it to the first, i like to think of it this way:

the first Matrix was designed to be perfect. it was wonderful and everyone who saw it was happy. the second Matrix, however, was built with some flaws and lots of people didn't like it, but those who embraced it and lived it to the fullest saw its beauty.

and ima def see it again. possibly thrice...

and i want to talk to you guys about it, but i'm tired too. so i'll get in on the debate tommorow...

[Pedro]

Ok.  So I saw it.  The action scenes were fucking mindblowing.  And I still smile when I think about trinity on that motorcycle.  I do think, though, that the first is much much better.  The first film concentrated on the struggle in Neo's mind about what is real and what is not.  It focused on him learning, and him growing to see his world for what it is.  This process of learning is what made the film so good.  There was always something new to see.  But now, since he's comfortable with his surroundings, he can do anything.  It seemed that there was nothing new to be learned, but then again, that architect scene.  But on a first viewing I really wasn't able to catch all of it (call me an idiot...)

The first film benefitted on that, but since there was nothing about growth in this one, there was little story.  It focused alot more on action scenes that it needed to to make a movie that would have kept me completely interested.  However, I'm not saying that the movie was bad.  I really enjoyed it and I thought the $^!TINY SPOILER$^! "to be concluded" thing at the end was just gorgeous hehe.  

But I'm now really looking forward to Revolutions
even though the trailer sucked.