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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #420 on: February 03, 2013, 10:06:37 AM »
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The first hour or so was where I mainly found the problems. Scenes are so much longer than needed, dialogues over explain and repeat everything, sequences seem to appear capriciously and jokes tend to not be that funny. There is A LOT of stuff in this part of the movie that could just go and it all would be better. Dr Schultz is an extremely talky character, and every time he started with one of his long clever monologues I kept thinking how much more interesting it would be if he were silent and only spoke so much when it was necessary, keeping in with the film's subject of playing a character to survive. Did he really HAD to explain Django his line of work in that bar, drinking a beer, while waiting on a sheriff? Was the Broomhilda story really necessary? The Klan scene?

I thought it's stuff like this is what makes Tarantino Tarantino? Not trying to imply he has to be boring, but that he circles his violence with effects of everyday life. More to the point, he loves to dabble in a story's cultural formalities and tendencies before he rips off the violent undertones possible and goes nuts. For me, all his films are extended marches through everyday life for the characters and how violence is possible in the quickest and most unlikely ways.

Now, mind you, since he has gone historical, Tarantino has been focusing more on the norms of meet and greets and how people present themselves. Inglorious Basterds is very repetitive with introductions of all sorts between very different characters. In Django Unchained, it's extending out how the German is a performer with presenting himself in numerous situations. Still, even though part of me thinks he was doing this in both films because he isn't as culturally flexible with the story like he was with the story and characters in Pulp Fiction, I appreciate the dedication to seeing tone through since it set a precedent for how the violence would be portrayed. If Tarantino is only showing the standard story details to get to his violent moments, he's just emulating the genre films he says is transforming. 

My disagreement with Tarantino is based in how interesting all of it is to me. But if Tarantino got rid of these things, he would be disregardful in more senses and a lot more boring.

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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #421 on: February 04, 2013, 08:36:16 PM »
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I agree with what you say as far as the "Tarantino style" goes. Yes, he does that, yes, this is what makes him "Tarantino". But my complaint is not agains his style. I'm also avoiding discussion on how "serious" the conversation can get dealing with slavery in Django Unchained. I'm speaking purely from pace and structural choices that I found wrong. Look, the second hour is even more talky and "wastes" more time with introductions and all that stuff, but it felt to me much more vital, much more as it should be. They talk and talk, but it all feels like a clock and it works. But in the first hour it didn't feel like that. Setting aside my wishful thinking of Walt'z playing a silent type kind of dude, who only has verbal diarrea when playing another character for survival purposes, I noticed scenes that could have been one sequence turned into two. They get to the first town (nigger town), without Waltz explaining him he is a bounty hunter because is more "cool" or whatever, that he does this at the bar, while serving beers. It's a moment played for laughs, but it's not that funny...They have two sequences by the fire where they talk about Broomhilda, one where Waltz know of her existence, and another one later, inexplicably, where he tells the Broomhilda legend. Now I'm reading the scrip and apparently this two sequences were just separated by a time cut there, so that makes sense...

By the end, when the scene with Sam Jackson and Jamie Foxx hanging with his balls in the air takes place, I was thinking: "Damn, this is a great scene with a great monologue in it, but right now it feels like this should have ended by now, why isn't this scene somewhere before?" It's just a weirdly structured film that presents a problem Tarantino has sometimes with extending stuff way too much. In this case, this film could have been a 105 minutes masterpiece, but to me it's more of a 2 hours 40 minutes good movie...

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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #422 on: February 04, 2013, 09:24:21 PM »
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Thanks! And thanks to kind words from all others. It's funny, I replied to a question from Squints on facebook and someone else made an XIXAX mention in the post and I thought, "Oh yea, I used to post there. Might as well wander back." Even my computer's history lost all track of me at this site. Definitely returning to something I had no plans to return to, but it's nice.

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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #423 on: February 05, 2013, 04:38:20 PM »
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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #424 on: February 06, 2013, 01:47:22 PM »
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Prepare yourself for all the ass-kissing.
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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #425 on: February 08, 2013, 01:39:16 AM »
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For the love of god, is it so much to ask for a brief description to go along with a youtube link?  An idea of what to include in said descriptions:

1. What the video is.
2. Why I should care about watching it.

For those of you wondering about the above videos, Howard Stern liked Django, Robin had her reservations.  Also the people in the film thought it was a good script.


Ok, I'm done.  Sorry.  And Django was fine.

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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #426 on: February 08, 2013, 04:50:16 PM »
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man, i haven't been that bent out of shape about a youtube video since...ever.

I guess, "Howard Stern Reviews Django Unchained," as a description wasn't blatant enough for you.

Ok, i'm done, sorry. Django was fine.
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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #427 on: February 08, 2013, 07:19:33 PM »
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man, i haven't been that bent out of shape about a youtube video since...ever.

I guess, "Howard Stern Reviews Django Unchained," as a description wasn't blatant enough for you.



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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #428 on: February 08, 2013, 08:05:54 PM »
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You constantly post videos without description. I don't think oldmate's request was that ridiculous. if you've already seen the video you're posting why not offer a brief summary or your own observations at least for the sake of discussion?

 it would be like wilderesque posting a million interviews without so much as an introduction and expecting people to just trudge through them. I wouldn't have read that epic So-done-bergh interview if the introduction hadn't  piqued  my interest with the highlights.

 the only videos that should be posted without any context or summary are viral videos that go for less than a minute. errbody's got time for dat.
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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #429 on: February 10, 2013, 02:31:02 AM »
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Good movie. Final 30 minutes of the film loses almost all of the momentum previously built up. But is necessary for Django's arc. Oh well.

Christoph Waltz is so lovely.

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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #430 on: February 10, 2013, 04:33:25 AM »
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man, i haven't been that bent out of shape about a youtube video since...ever.

I guess, "Howard Stern Reviews Django Unchained," as a description wasn't blatant enough for you.

Ok, i'm done, sorry. Django was fine.

that description doesn't pop up for everyone.
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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #431 on: February 10, 2013, 05:15:49 PM »
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Pubes, how much did QT's Aussie accent bother you?

any aussie is welcome to answer, now that we have all of you.
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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #432 on: February 10, 2013, 06:04:17 PM »
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Pubes, how much did QT's Aussie accent bother you?

any aussie is welcome to answer, now that we have all of you.

It's pretty atrocious. QT is kind of a 'meta-comic relief' in this film.

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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #433 on: February 10, 2013, 06:06:33 PM »
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you gotta admit tho, the man knows how to exit.
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Re: Django Unchained
« Reply #434 on: February 11, 2013, 05:06:48 AM »
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John Jarratt was fucking unrecognizable to me, but it has been awhile since I've seen Wolf Creek. Not surprised in the slightest that QT used him though, since his quote about Jarratt giving "The best horror performance of the past 25 years" in WC is what got me to the theater!!

I love when he goes "You're alright for a black fella."

QT's an idiot thinking he could pull off that accent with an authentic Aussie in the same scene. Maybe if he played it retarded or something I'd understand.

 
Just looked up Jarratt and he's gonna be in Wolf Creek 2

 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0418877/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1     

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