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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: prophet on July 21, 2003, 02:02:57 AM

Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: prophet on July 21, 2003, 02:02:57 AM
Cigarettes & Coffee - Miguel Ferrer,Kirk Baltz,Scott Coffey


did he get them through the Sundance institute?
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: markums2k on July 21, 2003, 10:53:07 AM
There's actually a Miguel Ferrer mail-order kit.  No actual tools required for assembly.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: prophet on July 21, 2003, 12:44:14 PM
that was mildly funny.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: Pubrick on July 21, 2003, 12:57:07 PM
u are mildly clueless.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: prophet on July 21, 2003, 01:19:26 PM
ok no point in me posting here anymore.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 21, 2003, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: prophetok no point in me posting here anymore.

Prophet, ignore P.  He eats, sleeps, and breathes confrontation.
Title: Re: So many real actors how?
Post by: SoNowThen on July 21, 2003, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: prophetCigarettes & Coffee - Miguel Ferrer,Kirk Baltz,Scott Coffey


did he get them through the Sundance institute?

Yeah, I've always wondered how he got all these actors. But it couldn't have been at Sundance, because didn't he get into Sundance as a result of this short?
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: markums2k on July 21, 2003, 03:30:01 PM
I don't know how PTA did it.  Maybe he said somewhere and I forgot...

Build it, and they will come.  At least, that's how it's supposed to work.  Putting together a project that attracts big-name talent, that's what's expected of the writer, and/or the producer, etc.

It's much easier to get 'stars' involved if you are friends with them, so you may have to network.  Just get the word out.  Be in the right place at the right time.  Have something fresh and worth-while... i.e. I don't think anybody is on the look-out for another Chasing Amy rip-off.  It's just soooo 1990s.

Or, you might have to make some stars of your own.  I'm sure there's plenty of local talent dying for an opportunity you might be able to offer.  If you want to maintain any sort of creative control over your project, you'll want to stick with local talent.

If you bring in Tom Cruise, and he doesn't like you or wants to take a different direction, he might kick you out of the deal and completely re-work the thing from scratch.

There's some really great books out there that deal with this stuff much more thoroughly than a message board ever could.
Title: Re: So many real actors how?
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 21, 2003, 04:47:36 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Quote from: prophetCigarettes & Coffee - Miguel Ferrer,Kirk Baltz,Scott Coffey


did he get them through the Sundance institute?

Yeah, I've always wondered how he got all these actors. But it couldn't have been at Sundance, because didn't he get into Sundance as a result of this short?

According to the Sydney commentary, he got accepted to Sundance based on the strength of C&C, and apparently he's allowed to choose actors he wants on the project...and luckily J.C and P.B.Hall agreed.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 21, 2003, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: mogwai
Quote from: Ghoulardi GoonProphet, ignore P.  He eats, sleeps, and breathes confrontation.
And you're just here breathing air.

Not quite.  :lol:
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: Duck Sauce on July 21, 2003, 06:32:35 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
Quote from: mogwai
Quote from: Ghoulardi GoonProphet, ignore P.  He eats, sleeps, and breathes confrontation.
And you're just here breathing air.

Not quite.  :lol:


I dont pay attention for a few weeks and all of a sudden there is somebody with 700 posts ive never heard of (or punchdrunk23)  

(prepares for clever insults)
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 22, 2003, 07:22:53 AM
I like you Duck Sauce.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: Jake_82 on July 22, 2003, 09:58:29 AM
on the hard eight commentary, PTA says he met philip baker hall when he was a PA on a tv special with him in it, and that he approached him and told him "I'm going to make you a star" or something like that.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on July 22, 2003, 12:27:24 PM
He met PBH when he was a PA... but he had known Ferrer forever... Miguel's family and PTA's family were friends for a long time. Ferrer told PT that if he ever made a short, he would be in it to help his career.

Nick
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: Cecil on July 22, 2003, 08:39:53 PM
i prefer counterfeit actors myself. theyre cheaper, and if done right, look exactly like the real thing.
Title: So many "real" actors how?
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on July 23, 2003, 10:52:42 AM
Quote from: Cecil B. Dementedi prefer counterfeit actors myself. theyre cheaper, and if done right, look exactly like the real thing.

Haha! The thing with counterfeit actors is if they suck, they suck bigtime... my favorite actors to use are the ones that are SAG-Eligible... they are better than your run of the mill actors because they have done enough to be in SAG, but they don't cost you an arm and a leg because they're in SAG... also, they may be famous one day when after they raise enough money to get into SAG... so there ya go!

Nick