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http://collider.com/quentin-tarantino-australian-movie-1930s/

Concept for possible film set in 1930s Australia with a Bonnie and Clyde sort of story.
If it ever gets made, I hope he stars in it, I wanna hear his Australian accent again.

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Couldn't possibly be worse than the last 1930s Australia movie I've seen.
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Couldn't possibly be worse than the last 1930s Australia movie I've seen.

I love that poster. It looks like Hugh Jackman fell asleep, but Nicole Kidman hasn't realized it yet.
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He must be OBSESSED with Australia. Mad Max, BMX Bandits, Wolf Creek. He used Zoe Bell in 4 of his films ( wait, she's a kiwi. ) He recruited Jon Jarratt to play one of the aussie bastards at the end of Django, played an australian himself entirely unconvincingly but OWNED it so hard we had to hand it to him. This guy has been all over the world, and I think what he sees in Australia is a kind of vast unmarked territory. We've talked on this board for years about how not much good cinema has come out of the country in general.  I think he's so fascinated with the environment and culture of the place, but above all the PEOPLE, and the history which seems to mirror America's in so many ways but I certainly don't know shit about...
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this is a good time to plug The Proposition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Proposition

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this is a good time to plug The Proposition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Proposition

That was my favourite film years ago as a young lad. Couldn't believe something that good came out of Australia.
Watched it again a couple of years ago, wasn't as good as I remembered but still a pretty impressive piece of Australian filmmaking. This kinda was John Hillcoat's first attempt a McCarthy (he couldn't get the rights to Blood Meridian). Anyway, Andrew Dominik deserves BM more than Hillcoat (though Hillcoat's face very slightly reminds me of The Judge).

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Quentin Tarantino Talks Up His 1970 Project At Lumière Festival
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Quentin Tarantino took a deep dive into 1970 during a masterclass at the Lumière Festival here in Lyon this evening. The filmmaker said he’s been researching for four years that particular year and how it marked a turning point for American and international cinema. What he’s going to do with the research for now remains unclear. “Am I going to write a book? Maybe. Is it going to be a six-part podcast? Maybe. A feature documentary? Maybe. I’m figuring it out,” he said, calling it a “work in progress” before taking the packed house through what he’s discovered so far. Lyon is the first place he’s publicly testing that out, he said.

Tarantino was greeted with a standing ovation by about 2000 people at the Auditorium of Lyon tonight as he mounted the stage. He was joined by Cannes Film Festival director Thierry Fremaux who also runs this event where Tarantino was memorably and emotionally honored in 2013.

Now in its eighth edition, this is a festival close to Tarantino’s heart. It’s largely a retrospective with hundreds of restored films, thematic strands and uncovered gems. This year, the filmmaker has curated a group of 14 films from 1970 which he’s been presenting throughout the week. They range from Arthur Hiller’s Love Story to Dario Argento’s The Bird With The Crystal Plumage; Claude Chabrol’s The Butcher; Billy Wilder’s The Private Life Of Sherlock Holmes; Bob Rafelson’s Five Easy Pieces; Jack Nicholson’s Drive, He Said; Russ Meyer’s Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls; and Robert Altman’s MASH.

The latter film was being screened following the masterclass during which Tarantino admitted to not having had a great relationship with the late Altman. “He didn’t like me and I didn’t like him,” but Tarantino loves the film. When MASH won the Palme d’Or in Cannes, Tarantino said it was the first and only time the festival officially recognized that it divided the jury — “a good portion” wanted Stuart Hagmann’s romantic drama The Strawberry Statement to win. Frémaux remarked that was the only time that’s happened in Cannes because the rules have been changed so that such an acknowledgement won’t be made public again.

Tarantino was also not a fan of the multi-Emmy-winning TV series based on MASH which for a time dwarfed the movie. But he was heartened to say, “I do believe the film is coming back and taking its place as the true MASH.”

This was a film, he said, that Fox “wasn’t paying any attention to” in 1970 which was also the year of Tora! Tora! Tora! and Patton. “They had two bigger fish to fry, then out comes MASH. Even though it takes place in Korea, it was the first movie to truly deal with the dilemma of Vietnam. But it was also a service comedy like no other. It’s awash in blood and deals with the meat grinder aspect of war. The characters only choice of dealing with the dehumanization that war is to have a stoned mentality and get drunk. The movie could not have been made any year but that year.”

Asked why he has chosen to focus on 1970, Tarantino cited the 2009 book by Mark Harris, Pictures Of A Revolution: Five Movies And The Birth Of The New Hollywood. The book chronicles the “real emergence of the New Hollywood,” Tarantino explained, and noted that “By the end of 1967, new Hollywood had won, only they didn’t know it yet. And Old Hollywood was over by 67 even though they didn’t know it yet.” He called Pictures Of A Revolution “the best cinema book written this decade.”

By 1970, Tarantino said, “New Hollywood was the Hollywood and anything that even smacked of Old Hollywood was dead on arrival.” The filmmaker said he became interested in when the revolution was won and, “not coincidentally, I was alive in 1970 and very conscious at 7 years old when my parents were taking me to all types of movies.” Now researching that year, he said, “the more I started going to the library and looking up newspaper articles of what it was like, I realized New Hollywood had won the revolution but whether it would survive wasn’t clear. Cinema had changed so drastically that Hollywood had alienated the family audience.”

And, although they were big fans, “the hippie audience wasn’t really moviegoers. Society demanded (the Hollywood new wave) but that doesn’t mean that they supported it as a business model and it made me realize that New Hollywood cinema from 1970-76 at the very least was actually more fragile than I thought it was. That experiment could have died in 1970.” He cited films like those that he’s showing here along with Carnal Knowledge, The Godfather, The Exorcist and Chinatown. But if MASH or Five Easy Pieces hadn’t worked in 1970, “It’s doubtful there would have been a Godfather or an Exorcist.”

But, he hasn’t set out to make a Top 10 list. “Oddly enough, it was the films on the lower end of the Top 30 or 40, which, while they weren’t as good, in a weird way were more interesting to me… I’m always going to come at it from a critical or cinephile perspective but I wanted to put that in the minor and make it more as a historian or a sociologist.”

As part of his research, Tarantino says he’s been watching prints, DVDs, old videos and cable as well as reading reviews from the day. “That’s how I found the think pieces of the time. ‘What’s wrong with movies?’ ‘Movies have become scary,’ ‘Can Hollywood survive’.” It was a time “like a werewolf where the skeleton changes in An American Werewolf In London,” he said to laughter.

Patterns have emerged during the research. “There were a lot of promises made of possibilities of a new cinema. It was almost like, could Hollywood handle this kind of freedom? Could the public handle it? The freedom seemed limitless. Directors could adapt any book, could shoot anything. There were no restrictions and that was maybe untenable.”

“If you ask me, the promise was fulfilled,” he continued. But there were casualties. That included the possibility that a new “genuine black cinema” would emerge. He cited Hal Ashby’s The Landlord (written by Bill Gunn), along with Ossie Davis’ directorial debut Cotton Comes To Harlem and Melvin Van Peebles’ Watermelon Man. He also pointed to films such as Paul Bogart’s Halls Of Anger and Brian De Palma’s Hi, Mom! which were making an impact.

But “Blaxploitation” ended up taking the place of this promise, said Tarantino. Despite being a fan of that genre, he said, “Now I see Blaxploitation did derail a real rising voice.”

Same goes for erotic cinema. “There was the promise that eroticism in cinema would be taken out of the raincoat crowd and would achieve mainstream success and play in nice theaters, particularly for couples. We had some wonderful artists at that time like Russ Meyer and Ken Russell. That worked for a little while but ultimately a lot of them went back to porno and sexploitation.”

Some of Tarantino’s other touchstones from 1970, he said, include Leonard Horn’s The Magic Garden Of Stanley Sweetheart starring Don Johnson; James Bridge’s The Baby Maker with Barbara Hershey; Herbert Ross’ The Owl And The Pussycat with Barbra Streisand and George Segal; and Carl Reiner’s Where’s Poppa?

“I remember the experience of being in the movie theater vividly with the more adult movies. I remember the audience reaction. There was naughty blue humor that pushed the boundaries of the time and some of that was going over my head at seven, but I remember the hearing the audiences laugh. They weren’t used to the jokes being this dirty. These were contraband giggles they were having.”

Rather than focus only on Hollywood cinema, Tarantino has expanded the horizon to include international filmmaking from the period. He noted that the era brought Enzo Barboni’s They Call Me Trinity with Terrence Hill and Bud Spencer. That film, he said, changed the spaghetti Western by turning on the laughs. “The comic quality of the movie then affects all other spaghetti westerns after that.” Also in Italy, Dario Argento created the giallo genre of bloody murder mysteries.

In Asian cinema Yu Wang’s Hong Kong action drama The Chinese Boxer “was the first official film that we now think of as a Kung-Fu movie.” In Japan, Baby Cart At The River Styx by Kenji Misumi was “one of the great action movies of all time… Never had an action film been that awash in blood and filmed so beautifully and amazing. The blood in that movie is just a thing of beauty.”

As he wrapped up, Tarantino told the Lyon audience. “If the subject intrigues you and makes you do a dive like I have, I think you find a lot of films that are interesting. Don’t get too hung up in classification of good and bad, because truly interesting is where it’s at… The idea is to go into these films and take it where they’re going and where the directors are taking you.”

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Quentin Tarantino Developing Film About Manson Family Murders

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which the filmmaker has already written and will direct

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no one is attached or has read for a part yet,

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Sources say that Tarantino is putting the finishing touches on the script and that Brad Pitt, who worked with the filmmaker on Basterds, and Jennifer Lawrence have been approached. Studios could receive the package after Labor Day, according to one source. The plan is to shoot in 2018, possibly in the summer.
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Interesting
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According to a random Facebook headline, he's also courting Margot Robbie for Sharon Tate.

The whole thing is interesting. It being Tarantino, this could go either way. For now, I'm curiously optimistic. I want to see what he does with 1969.

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I've always wanted to see QT make a family film.

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I've always wanted to see QT make a family film.

Amazing.

As for thoughts on this, I feel the project is too nascent but have a deep fascination with Manson as Cult Reverberation and era monster. A good write up on this, from BMD's Lindsey Romain:
 http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/14/tarantino-is-the-right-man-for-manson

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if he's make this it will surely be a big change in tone from his previously films? he can't make the violence "cool" in this in any way.

i read today that james franco is making a film about charles bukowski too. they are not comparable in any ways ofc, but you're on thin ice when you make films from the POV of disgusting pigs, or if you romanticize anything about these people. need too show respect etc. you can't have charles manson slitting up sharon tate to, i don't know, an kanye west song.

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Agreed. I thought that he reached his logical limit stylistically with his last film which was violent, irreverent, nihilistic and all that good stuff.

The obvious joke is that this becomes some sort of alt-history revenge-fetish film where Polanski hunts down the family or something. Which would be pretty lame.

He'll have to switch things up/work really hard to make this bit of potentially transgressive cinema compelling.

I'm not usually one to make an argument for tastefulness or whatever but I would hope that trying something different will bring out something fresh in his writing/directing.

As for Kanye songs, they'll use Monster in the trailer.

Have any of you guys heard Manson's music? It's wistful and Romantic in this creepy (sometimes almost beautiful) outsider music way. I could see it work in a QT film.

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I hope it won't be a revenge fantasy again. That's all. I like Django more than Inglourious Basterds, but I enjoy them in a weird way: I can watch the scenes with some kind of pleasure while thinking, after, that they are really stupid...I don't buy at all how "cinema" saves history or whatever the end of Basterds is trying to say. It's only a childish pleasure. Django did it in a honest way. "Yeah, let's watch them die." +Django had some kind of story...

Anyway, I loved The Hateful Eight. It seemed to be some kind of masterwork. The new one will probably be, well, something new. (But we never know with Tarantino: he's a one stop forward/one step back kind of director, isn't he?)
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