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mutinyco

July 27, 2003, 11:20:39 AM
Who are the cinematographers and editors people think have done great work?
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Ghostboy

#1
July 27, 2003, 12:39:47 PM
Phew...that's a huge one.

My personal faves that I usually immediately name when it comes to cinematographers are generally Emmanuelle Lubeski, Robert Richardson and Jean Yves Escoffier, but that's just scratching the surface. I love Victorio Storaro's use of color, too. I was following Malick Sayeed's progression with excitement, but he hasn't done much but music videos lately. And then there are all the old greats whose names aren't dropped as often, but their images are indelible in the heads of movie buffs.

Editors...well, I'm sort of ashamed here that I can't drop a name. There are people like Thelma Schoonmaker or Walter Murch or Mary Sweeney that are clearly associated with a filmmaker or at least a certain film, but there are many others who are equally or more skilled whose work is just invisible...but being an editor myself, I know how important their work is.

I am a big fan of Roderick Jaynes, though.

Pubrick

#2
July 27, 2003, 01:00:42 PM
old: cardiff, nykvist.
new: prieto.

editors.. pfft who can remember any? u really shouldn't notice their work. but i remember Murch cos of those books he did, In the Blink of an Eye and that new interview one.

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MacGuffin

#3
July 27, 2003, 01:11:46 PM
Cinematographers: Too many threads to redirect to.

Editors: Anne V. Coates, Thelma Schoonmaker, George Tomasini, Walter Murch, Michael Kahn.
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mutinyco

#4
July 27, 2003, 01:40:27 PM
Ghosty, you were trying to be funny about Roderick Jaynes, right?
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Ghostboy

#5
July 27, 2003, 01:44:28 PM
Yes. Can anyone provide a link to that delightful article "he" wrote about the editing and titling of 'The Man Who Wasn't There?'

Ernie

#6
July 27, 2003, 02:00:33 PM
I can't do that but I will second "his" talent. I gotta third Thelma Schoonmaker too...wow...she's damn good. I don't know many other editors by name to be honest.

As for cinematography...I gotta say Tim Orr (All the Real Girls, George Washington, Raising Victor Vargas), I think he's probably the best new guy, very very beautiful stuff. Also Newton Thomas Sigel (Three Kings, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind)...he's a great recent one. Robert Yeoman (The Royal Tenenbaums, Rushmore, Drugstore Cowboy) has a great subtlety that makes him awesome...can't forget him. Actually, I think they outdo Robert Elswit (PDL, BN, Magnolia), who many have said is mostly influenced by PTA and his vision moreso than his own.

mutinyco

#7
July 27, 2003, 02:39:02 PM
I think a really good editor is James Haygood. He does Fincher's stuff. Check out some of the music videos they did together -- he's tighter than a virgin.

As for DP's, can't overlook Allen Daviau, who shot Spielberg's mid-'80s work...

Honestly, I can't express how important editing is. It seems so much easier for people to name DPs, but editors should be just as widely acknowledged.
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-St. Joe

Redlum

#8
July 27, 2003, 06:23:26 PM
Daniel Rezende (yeah I looked the name up) for City of God, is what sticks out in recent memory.
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dufresne

#9
July 28, 2003, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: GhostboyYes. Can anyone provide a link to that delightful article "he" wrote about the editing and titling of 'The Man Who Wasn't There?'

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,559123,00.html
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SoNowThen

#10
July 28, 2003, 03:04:07 PM
whoever did Black Hawk Down (dp'd), I thought did a great job.

Dylan Tichner (sp?) is a good young editor.
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

TheVoiceOfNick

#11
July 28, 2003, 03:15:52 PM
Anyone who has shot or cut for Steven Spielberg... as far as cutting only, we all know PTA had more to do with the cutting of his movies and trailers than most people think he did...

Nick

jasper_window

#12
July 28, 2003, 03:23:07 PM
I like Joe Hutshing.  Sarah Flack for the Limey alone.  Anne Coates.  Stephen Mirrione.  

DP's, Roger Deakins, Robert Richardson, Conrad Hall, Ellen Kuras, Ed Lachman, Dante Spinotti(sp?), Eliot Davis (mostly for out of sight and things to do in denver when you're dead), I could go on and on...

mutinyco

#13
July 28, 2003, 05:46:18 PM
Eliot Davis has a movie called Thirteen coming out. All hand-held grainy super-16.
"I believe in this, and it's been tested by research: he who fucks nuns will later join the church."

-St. Joe

jasper_window

#14
July 29, 2003, 07:58:55 AM
Yeah I can't wait for Thirteen.  Looks good!
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