The latest are "Joseph Campbell: The Power of Myth" and "Jazz on a Summer's Day" ...
I was surprised by the Power of Myth pick... I've seen it and it's really good, but I thought PTA had a grudge against Star Wars...
Star Wars really isn't a very good example of mythology in play though. It's more comic book and bad tv than anything else.
~rougerum
thought it might be interesting to compile a list of movies that he has talked about or mentioned for everyone to see. (i realize gregs site has a PTA DVD PICS section, but there are numerous interviews and such that mention movies he likes. this might be interesting.)
on the magnolia documentary THAT MOMENT, he screens 2 movies (that are mentioned in the doc), for his production crew to get the feel of what magnolia should be like. those are...
-NETWORK
-ORDINARY PEOPLE
in the article 10 (+ 2 films) that influenced Boogie Nights he names....
http://www.ptanderson.com/articlesandinterviews/neon.htm
-PUTNEY SWOPE
-NASHVILLE
-GOODFELLAS
-SINGIN IN THE RAIN
-SHOOT THE PIANO PLAYER
-THE JADE PUSSYCAT
-I AM CUBA
-MELVIN AND HOWARD
-STRAY DOG
-SWEET SMELL OF SUCCESS
-BAY DAY AT BLACK ROCK
-THE MERRY WIDOW
in the PTA DVD Pics section of gregs site he mentions...
http://www.ptanderson.com/dvdpicks/main.htm
-SWEET AND LOWDOWN
-MEET THE PARENTS
-DARK STAR
-CITY LIGHTS
-MON ONCLE
-M. HULOTS HOLIDAY
for those pt fanatics out there that want to see some influences (if there already isnt a single thread for this, it might be a good place to get some rental ideas.)
in a cigarettes and coffee interview he also mentions the john carpenter "classics"
-THE THING
-HALLOWEEN
"I love John Carpenter's movies! He's the best! The Thing & Halloween are just fucking classics!"
he also says...
"I saw Dancer in the Dark three times. I liked Almost Famous. I liked Mission Impossible 2, but I need to see it again."
-DANCER IN THE DARK
-ALMOST FAMOUS
-MISSION IMPOSSIBLE II
also mentions the Astaire/Rogers flicks...
-CAREFREE
-THE GAY DIVORCEE
and the french film...
-WHEN THE CATS AWAY
"You know what you make me wanna do? Watch When The Cat's Away again! I know that I've changed a lot since I watched it first, but I'm sure when I watch it again I'll still have a crush on her. But you have no idea... how excellent..."
-BREAKING THE WAVES
"I've been a fan [of Watson] since 'Breaking the Waves'. You see somebody give a performance like that, it's the same thing with Adam -- they've got balls, I want to be around them. I want to jump off a cliff with them, someone that daring..."
-JAWS
-CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
"My first influences were Jaws and Close Encounters. I saw them when I was seven, and I knew what I wanted to do."
-THE RECKLESS MOMENT
"There's a Max Ophuls movie with Joan Bennett called The Reckless Moment. A great little noir thriller."
in the IFC special he mentions as being fucking cool....
-TERMINATOR II: JUDGEMENT DAY
-RAGING BULL
-THE SEARCHERS
"I'd see Raging Bull and ask myself, "What was that guy watching?" OK, I'm going to see every Elia Kazan movie; I'm going to go rent Max Ophuls' movies; I'm going to watch The Searchers."
Quote from: MrBurgerKingQuote from: themodernage02-NASHVILLE
Just saw this and didn't like it at all. I didn't mind that there's no real narrative story, but I hate country music. I can't explain why I didn't connect with this movie though. Can anyone tell me why I didn't connect with it?
I hated it too but I'm not a big Altman fan anyway. I thought that maybe it was like 2001 for me (which I hated upon first viewing but love now) and I needed to watch it again but I hated it even more the second time.
I didn't think it was that bad. But then again, I'm a fan of Altman....Short Cuts was ten times better, but Nashville was interesting because it gave you a whole new perspective on country music (which I don't like anyway, but was always somewhat curious about that world.....)
I think the performance that really stuck out in my mind was Lily Tomlin.....just this sort of quiet desperation, of wanting to get away from her ignorant hick husband...even if it was into the arms of a womanizing prick..... :)
i think i like nashville better than shortcuts. it gets better with every viewing. i've only seen short cuts once though, so i don't know. i love the music in nashville.
Quote from: themodernage02
-JAWS
-CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
"My first influences were Jaws and Close Encounters. I saw them when I was seven, and I knew what I wanted to do."
dont forget Rocky, that story about his dad taking him to see it, and Little Paulie saying, I want to be like Rocky. His dad goes, you want to be an actor or a writer or a director or something like that? And Little Paulie goes, Yeah.
I love going and watching movies that inspired other filmmakers. I still need to see Melvin and Howard...I passed over it last night at the video store in favor of Suspiria. I was in more of a horrific mood.
I think Nashville is probably better than Short Cuts; it's not just about country music -- that's just the vehicle Altman uses to show a sort of loss of innocence in American culture during that time period.
Quote from: GhostboyI love going and watching movies that inspired other filmmakers.
me too. and since everyone else on this board is pt obsessed (like myself), i thought it would be an interesting and useful thread for people wanting to check out some of PTAs PICKS. im sure there are plenty more interviews on gregs site that mention some more movies, but i just thought i would skim a few and see what i could come up with.
According to IMDB's, Paul's favorite movie of all-time is "NETWORK". I have no idea if this is true, but being a huge PTA fan, I rented this movie for the first time tonight, immediately after reading about it.
I think the concept was really creative, a TV news anchor, who is about to loose his job, going into a rage and telling his audience that he will kill himself on national television. It almost beat out "Rocky" for best picture in 1976, so I knew it couldn't be awful. What I thought kept this film from being a classic for years to come, was how much it's aged. They talk about the price of oil and comment on news stories happening last week, when we all know it happened 20+ years ago. I think great films have concepts that never die... although this movie did, talking about yesterdays news like it was last week, doesn't help one bit.
I will say that Peter Finch, who played the news anchor gave an extremely powerful performance. There are a more then enough moments where he just snaps and mouths off about society, the power of media, and what it all means to us...
"You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here, you're beginning to believe that the tube is reality and your own lives are unreal. You do. Why, whatever the tube tells you: you dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you even think like the tube. This is mass madness, you maniacs. In God's name, you people are the real thing, WE are the illusion. "
One thing that I did notice, was how part of the movie reminded me of scenes with Jimmy Gator's character in "Magnolia". Maybe it was just the office with Emmy statues sitting on the counter, but there was something bigger that I just can't put my finger on. The whole movie just had that feeling. There was also a moment were Robert Duvall walks through the office and the camera pretty much drags behind him, the all but infamous PTA shoot.
AFI rated it #66, in it's list of the all-time greatest movies. Maybe I'm missing something magical here?
Quote from: ckad79According to IMDB's, Paul's favorite movie of all-time is "NETWORK". I have no idea if this is true, but being a huge PTA fan, I rented this movie for the first time tonight, immediately after reading about it.
I think the concept was really creative, a TV news anchor, who is about to loose his job, going into a rage and telling his audience that he will kill himself on national television. It almost beat out "Rocky" for best picture in 1976, so I knew it couldn't be awful. What I thought kept this film from being a classic for years to come, was how much it's aged. They talk about the price of oil and comment on news stories happening last week, when we all know it happened 20+ years ago. I think great films have concepts that never die... although this movie did, talking about yesterdays news like it was last week, doesn't help one bit.
I will say that Peter Finch, who played the news anchor gave an extremely powerful performance. There are a more then enough moments where he just snaps and mouths off about society, the power of media, and what it all means to us...
"You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here, you're beginning to believe that the tube is reality and your own lives are unreal. You do. Why, whatever the tube tells you: you dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you even think like the tube. This is mass madness, you maniacs. In God's name, you people are the real thing, WE are the illusion. "
One thing that I did notice, was how part of the movie reminded me of scenes with Jimmy Gator's character in "Magnolia". Maybe it was just the office with Emmy statues sitting on the counter, but there was something bigger that I just can't put my finger on. The whole movie just had that feeling. There was also a moment were Robert Duvall walks through the office and the camera pretty much drags behind him, the all but infamous PTA shoot.
AFI rated it #66, in it's list of the all-time greatest movies. Maybe I'm missing something magical here?
lol
im confused.
Quote from: ebeamani actually despise "network".
Wow. I think it's awesome -- why do you "despise" it? Do you just not like it or do you genuinely hate it?
hedwig you're like a less political version of jeremy blackman. you both have that calm inquisitive magic going on.
Quote from: petehedwig you're like a less political version of jeremy blackman. you both have that calm inquisitive magic going on.
oh my god.
how observant. :idea:
Well, I for one applaud ebeam for going against the grain. I was starting to think we had a bunch of clones around here. Remember people, it's okay for someone to hate something that you like. It doesn't make them an asshole, actually, it probably makes you an asshole for liking something that sucks.
I agree with Stefen... except that I think ebes didn't really get Network.
I agree with RegularKarate.
Quote from: StefenWell, I for one applaud ebeam for going against the grain. I was starting to think we had a bunch of clones around here. Remember people, it's okay for someone to hate something that you like. It doesn't make them an asshole, actually, it probably makes you an asshole for liking something that sucks.
theres nothing wrong with going against the grain per se, but i have a problem when some people tend to 'go against the grain JUST TO go against the grain'. everybody likes quentin tarantino, so i hate him. everybody hates this movie, so i will find some merit in it. that shit really bugs me, REALLY. now, sometimes there will be a hype or anti-hype accompanying a film that you cant ignore and will factor into your feelings about a film, BUT to love/hate something just to go be different is annoying. i was actually just talking about this with someone yesterday.
Quote from: themodernage02per se
Thank you for being one of the few people on the planet who knows how to spell that right.
Quote from: themodernage02everybody likes quentin tarantino, so i hate him.
I know this wasn't directed at me, but it is related to the topic, so what the hell. I hate Tarantino's schtick now because his movies have become vapid and empty (among other things). That's not going against the grain for no reason. That's having an evolved, discriminating taste that won't settle for style over substance. Tarantino makes quasi-art films for people who don't know what the hell an art film is, with violence masquerading as calm, cool, collected comedic relief. It was cool in
Dogs and
Pulp because it was fresh in light of the early-90s PC movements, even though it reeked slightly of plagiarism.
Jackie showed incredible growth -- Tarantino was at the top of his game here, though few have realized the film's subtle power yet. But now he's relegated himself to making send-up after mockery after ill-conceived homage until he can finally squeeze out another original thought -- which probably won't be for a while.
More on topic, to bash
Network for the reasons "he who shall not be named" has stated shows an unbelievable amount of naivete -- ironical enough, considering the source, and for anyone familiar with Xixax history. That he was once scared of Korine and now kisses the ground he walks on is incredibly amusing. I admire Korine greatly, and I have my reasons, but it almost makes me ashamed to do so, in an asshole kind of way that I really shouldn't be ashamed for.
Quote from: themodernage02everybody hates this movie, so i will find some merit in it. that shit really bugs me, REALLY.
I can understand where that sentiment comes from, but I'm more of the camp of "everyone loves this movie, so I will find some reason to dump on it." Not really (that is, I don't want to hate a movie), but I will be more critical of it, usually with a justification. Now, I'm not as bad as, say, GT, but high standards are important for anyone who views film as art. Not to get into another discussion of film as art VS. entertainment or anything. It works best when it's both, but still, it's an ugly can of worms.
Quote from: themodernage02BUT to love/hate something just to go be different is annoying.
Agreed.
Quote from: themodernage02i was actually just talking about this with someone yesterday.
Deets, man.
And any chance you'd change your name to themodernage04? themodernageopoeia? "mod. james mod?" Why are you looking at me like that? Where the hell are we going and WHY ARE WE IN THIS HANDBASKET?
...
Sorry. The ghost of Tarantino possessed me for a moment there.
Okay, my turn.
Quote from: StefenWell, I for one applaud ebeam for going against the grain.
Oh, fuck the grain.
Quote from: StefenI was starting to think we had a bunch of clones around here.
I must've missed that, because one of the things I like about Xixax is the assortment of different opinions.
Look at THESE clones:
Quote from: Mr.BurgerKingJust saw [Nasvhille] and didn't like it all...I really hate country music.
Quote from: Disco StuI hated it too.
Quote from: Chainsmoking InsomniacI didn't think it was that bad.
Quote from: bonanzatazi think i like nashville better than shortcuts. it gets better with every viewing. i've only seen short cuts once though, so i don't know. i love the music in nashville.
And that's all from this thread. One guy "didn't like it" and "
hates the music", another guy "hated it," then someone "didn't think it was that bad," and then some one else thinks it "gets better with every viewing" and "
loves the music." All on one page.
Quote from: StefenRemember people, it's okay for someone to hate something that you like.
Absolutely.
Quote from: StefenIt doesn't make them an asshole, actually, it probably makes you an asshole for liking something that sucks.
I know you're kidding so I won't say how stupid that is.
So wantautopia has a problem with people incorrectly spelling "per se" yet says "ironical"?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=ironical :-P (I spelled it ironical just 'cause I knew someone would point that out, ironically enough. Or not. Who even knows anymore.) Reminds me of when Garner got on Conan for saying "snuck" and then he brought out a dictionary to prove her wrong.
I remember that episode, it was funny... I think he's done that a couple of times.
Yes, I'm aware that it's in the dictionary, but it still makes people sound like gimps when they say it (except maybe brits and Canadians, I think they might get away with it more often).
Quote from: wantautopia?More on topic, to bash Network for the reasons "he who shall not be named" has stated shows an unbelievable amount of naivete -- ironical enough, considering the source, and for anyone familiar with Xixax history. That he was once scared of Korine and now kisses the ground he walks on is incredibly amusing. I admire Korine greatly, and I have my reasons, but it almost makes me ashamed to do so, in an asshole kind of way that I really shouldn't be ashamed for.
yea, whatever. i have no idea why your so angry and agressive right now man.
kinda off topic, i gotta say just for the record, that i think it's funny how everyone identifies me with korine now even tho i haven't mentioned him by name once since i started posting here again. i haven't said anything wrong or out of turn either, and yet here some of you are, egging me on for stupid reasons like because i don't like "network" or cause i like "dumb and dumber" (different thread). i didn't even tear it apart or anything either, i just maturely stated my opinion and you shot back trying to insult me. weird.
regardless, i'm not going against any kind of grain by the way, or else i'm not trying to in all of this. i just don't like that movie. i never did and i never will. pta likes it....i think that's fine. i didn't even know that till i read it here, just now. for fucks sake, it has nothin to do with harmony korine....i don't see that connection at all in any world. i admire regularkarate for, in response, just saying i didn't get it rather than going on this whole tangent like this guy just did for no reason. i don't get it.
Quote from: ebeaman, in response to wantautopia,yea, whatever. i have no idea why your so angry and agressive right now man.
i gotta say just for the record, that i think it's funny how everyone identifies me with korine now even tho i haven't mentioned him by name once since i started posting here again. i haven't said anything wrong or out of turn either, and yet here some of you are, egging me on for stupid reasons like because i don't like "network". i didn't even tear it apart or anything either, i just maturely stated my opinion and you shot back trying to insult me. weird.
I recently learned that by responding to it, you are only (if unintentionally) asking for more.
Quote from: ebeamanregardless, i'm not going against any kind of grain.
I agree. That's why I wrote "Fuck the grain" a few posts up. There's no grain. Everyone's got their own way of looking at stuff. Hell, one of the Xixax-ers went out and bought the "You Got Served" DVD a little while back. If anyone is grain-going, it's him.
Quote from: HedwigI recently learned that by responding to it, you are only (if unintentionally) asking for more.
probably true, yea. and if so, of course, i'm not asking for more, but i mean, if i receive it...fuck it, it's just a message board, at the end of the day.
Quote from: ebeamankinda off topic, i gotta say just for the record, that i think it's funny how everyone identifies me with korine now even tho i haven't mentioned him by name once since i started posting here again.
Well, you did leave xixax for the Korine message board. That could have something to do with it.
1. anyone who loves every movie pta does has a problem. seriously. i mean, if pta smokes two packs of cigs a day and fucks microwave-warmed cantaloupes and snorts crystal meth and jumps off bridges, would you...?
2. i don't know what the korine message board is all about, and i don't care to know, nor do i care what xixax members do on the internet besides xixax (save child porn or anything of that nature).
3. holidays are coming and we have much to look forward too:....... um, well presents and whatnot, that aviator movie, family stuff, waiting in long lines at the mall to buy stupid crap we don't need for one another, the mind-numbing christmas song or two, freezing god damn weather... whathaveyou... well to be honest i can't think of anything really good off the top of my head, but the point is,
LET'S ALL GET ALONG FOR A CHANGE.
Quote from: ©bradLET'S ALL GET ALONG FOR A CHANGE.
So, what you're saying is, you want peace and
Harmony. :yabbse-cheesy:
Quote from: ebeamani hope that everyone accepts me back.
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I think Ebes got laid by a chick who's into shitty movies.
Quote from: ebeamani haven't said anything wrong or out of turn either, and yet here some of you are, egging me on for stupid reasons like because i don't like "network" or cause i like "dumb and dumber" (different thread). i didn't even tear it apart or anything either, i just maturely stated my opinion and you shot back trying to insult me. weird.
i would guess part of the reason that the response seemed strong, is that your initial statement I DESPISE NETWORK is a strong one.
had you said, you didnt
really get into it, or you felt it was sort of dated/overrated, i think
most people would've let it go because...hey, everyo
ne has different opinions. but when
you come bac
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o announce you DESPISE a film gene
rally regarded as a classic because
its 'bori
ng', you will usually g
et
some other points of view in response. so, yo
u had better have a really good explanation for why you hate it so mu
ch, or be prepared for some discussion about it. welcome bac
k ebe
s. :wink:
okay Not to start a fight or anything, but um, i SEE nothing wrong with saying you haTe or lovE somEThing without giving an explanation.
Hedwig, were you calling me out on the last page :?:
Quote from: RegularKarateI think Ebes got laid by a chick who's into shitty movies.
There we go, yes...that made me laugh, see, that's good.
Otherwise, whatever....i won't mince my words for no reason. it should not offend anyone that i don't like "network", whether i "despise" or "detest" or "hate" it. Your given me too much power, dude, if you get offended by me that way.
Quote from: ebeamanit should not offend anyone that i don't like "network", whether i "despise" or "detest" or "hate" it. Your given me too much power, dude, if you get offended by me that way.
He's got a point.
yea, and that's just being weird to say i condemned the film merely by calling it "boring", turning a blind eye to all else that i said. cause i do remember saying a lot more than that. whatever tho, right or wrong, i'm thru with all this, myself. it's basically redundant now.
don't worry, eric, this isn't real anyway. the people aren't real. the emotions aren't real.. after all, it's just a message board, at the end of the day.
Quote from: cinephilédon't worry, eric, this isn't real anyway. the people posters aren't real. the emotionscons aren't real.. after all, it's just a message board, at the end of the day.
Quote from: StefenHedwig, were you calling me out on the last page :?:
I didn't like this:
Quote from: StefenI was starting to think we had a bunch of clones around here.
That's all.
hedwig stop being a clone.
I dig this discussion.
*crosses arms*
Quote from: cronopio*crosses arms*
No, man, use em to post.
Quote from: cronopioI dig this discussion.
*crosses arms*
*snaps fingers*
Groovy, man. Pass the Kool-Aid.
Quote from: HedwigQuote from: StefenHedwig, were you calling me out on the last page :?:
I didn't like this:
Quote from: StefenI was starting to think we had a bunch of clones around here.
That's all.
Ah, sucks you didn't like it. Oh well, that's all.
ehhhhhhhh
That doesn't even make sense.
Quote from: StefenThat doesn't even make sense.
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Is that better?
Pull that ewok out of your ass and talk some sense, fanboy.
Quote from: StefenThat doesn't even make sense.
it's probably not suppose to man, it's like "quirky" or something, i guess.
Putney Swope Swoops Onto DVD
Downey Sr.'s classic satire due in Aug.[/i]
On August 1, 2006, Image Entertainment will release Putney Swope on DVD. The underground sensation of the '60s (and a work of Robert Downey, Sr.) revolves around a black man that's elected CEO of a Madison Avenue ad agency, and the revolution that he brings with him. It will feature a host of bonus materials and extra features, and will be available for the MSRP of $19.99.
The Putney Swope DVD will feature the following bonus materials:
*Liner notes by film programmer and historian Charles Coleman
*Director Robert Downey's first-ever audio commentary
*Video interview with Robert Downey, Sr.
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Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on January 15, 2003, 01:30:38 PM
The latest are "Joseph Campbell: The Power of Myth" and "Jazz on a Summer's Day" ...
I was surprised by the Power of Myth pick... I've seen it and it's really good, but I thought PTA had a grudge against Star Wars...
Sorry to raise up an old thread from the dead, but does anyone know when PTA cited Campbell? I'm going through this stuff, and it's pretty great. Curious to know the context too.
I don't know where he dropped it but Campbell is a given for any storyteller worth a damn. It's like if he recommended Citizen Kane.
What I wanna see more of is PTA's Nose Picks. I hear each one is a golden treasure!