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Re: Blade Runner 2
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2017, 07:22:46 AM »
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I feel like this movie raises an interesting question about the extent to which context matters when it comes to the quality of a film. To me, it's a MIRACLE given the modern studio system (if this does well and the general public demonstrates a taste for it, some real interesting films could get made), but agree that it's not perfect. Most movies of this scale don't even seem to try to try for perfect. And you never know what might have been studio mandated. The runtime almost definitely given that most people won't leave the house for anything less than two hours.

The same thing seems to be happening with The Florida Project, with people online getting pretty nit-picky. These are good films! Real deal adventurous, interesting films!

Yes, but it is being spoiled to still be picky when a movie is worth discussion? I did think about it. It's true that most movies on this scale aren't even trying. That said, even if I, personally, think the movie is messy, the mere fact that I am writing a lot about it here is a sign that they have done something.

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Re: Blade Runner 2
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2017, 10:29:48 AM »
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LOVED IT.

Pretty much agree with what Alexandro said, although the length was fine for me.


Give all the awards already to Deakins.

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Re: Blade Runner 2
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2017, 04:02:51 PM »
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like with mother! i can't dislike it without betraying some of my core principles, so i won't dislike it. absolutely the feeling of this movie will resonate with me, and that is indeed a quality i cherish. plus yeah it's got all the candies of cinema and Deakins should win all the awards. on top of that it's set in the future and they saved the snow scene for last.

one can keep in mind that i like Blade Runner and still i've watched that movie without liking it. because the thing is my life isn't sitting inside there. the people i know aren't sitting inside that movie. so for me the feeling is a place and not a person. and some days i'd rather visit a park than see my friend, but parks are everywhere and friends are rare. if The Florida Project was multiplex i'd've seen it instead and it'll have problems sure, but they'll be human problems. that's my jam and y'all know it.
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Re: Blade Runner 2
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2017, 07:17:01 PM »
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Yes, but it is being spoiled to still be picky when a movie is worth discussion? I did think about it. It's true that most movies on this scale aren't even trying. That said, even if I, personally, think the movie is messy, the mere fact that I am writing a lot about it here is a sign that they have done something.

Yes, totally. Didn't mean to call you out. Was speaking generally to similar sentiments I've seen here and there. Love that the movie is generating discussion. Love when ANY movie generates discussion. Just sense a slight forest-for-the-trees perspective lately. I feel like any conversation between movie people on this one should begin from the premise that it's something special. You may like it, you may hate it, but I think we can (mostly) all agree that it's a cut above. 

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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2017, 03:26:03 PM »
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2017, 06:12:39 PM »
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So glad I caught this in IMAX. I have no idea what it's like in other formats, but I think I will carry that experience with me through every rewatch.

This movie showed me things I've never seen before, sounds I've never heard before. I can think of 5 or 6 scenes that were absolutely jaw-dropping. It's boiling over with new ideas. I want more!

Never has Hans Zimmer bombast worked so well for me. I was continuously blown away, and then swept away, by this glorious soundtrack.

But it is way too self-conscious and its originality becomes a gimmick. Let me explain. The movie isn't as fast paced as almost all the big Hollywood movies. At the contrary, it takes its time. But every scene takes its time even when it is absolutely not necessary. There are a lot of shots of Gosling slowly walking in great sets. Do great sets make a great movie? Some shots seem to be motivated by how great the set is. There is no reason for this movie to be that long.

Having watched Arrival, I can be 100% certain that this movie's patience and ponderousness is genuine. Denis Villeneuve is such a perfect fit. The original Blade Runner is even slower, I'd argue, and is more transparently about the beauty of its world.

I am also completely fine with a movie that sacrifices character/story potential for other equally cinematic things. Avatar was kind of the embodiment of that, for example.

But I fully agree with this criticism:

probably would have been even better with less dialogue- in fact, less dialogue, fewer scenes and overall greater abstraction could have made this really, really special

With that alteration, this easily could have been a masterpiece. Shame it was so close.

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When Harrison Ford arrived, it was like, wow, that's a real actor right there. This is his best performance in a very long time. He pumped so much emotion and weight into his first few scenes especially.

Most fiction about androids, including Westworld and Ex Machina, don't bother to deal with the issue of the human soul what that is, and under what circumstances a synthetic human could hope to have one. Blade Runner 2049 addresses this question head-on. To paraphrase the movie: if something is legitimately, biologically born, how could it not have a soul? I appreciated that this movie is philosophically serious.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2017, 09:12:13 PM »
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Great direction, acting, cinematography and FX. Shit script.

 

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