Xixax Film Forum

IS THIS IT?  man, i love this album!

*rudie*

:sleeping:

man......I was listening to that album before anyone knew who they were.  It's played out now.

you know what's played out?  still using the word played out to be cool.  get in gear loser!

*rudie*

WOW!!!!  Is it really cool to use the term played out???   This f@#$ing threads played out!!!

:cry:

(You people are fighting over a completely lame and manufactured band.  Please stop.)

Fuck, I was using the term "played out" before everyone else was using it... it's so been skunk.

I dug them until all these bands like the hives and the vines came out sounding exactley like them, or at least tried to.  I had high hopes for this band but I've heard a few new songs and it sounds like they're trying to be the doors now........jesus, I feel what i'm sayings already played out.

the hives and the vines sound nothing like the strokes.  do you even listen to music?

*rudie*

Quote from: rudieobthe hives and the vines sound nothing like the strokes.  do you even listen to music?

*rudie*

While I think they're all over-rated, that's true... everyone compares these bands, but I think that's just because they're all just retro, but not even retro in the same genre.

what do you mean they sound nothing alike?  they all have the same simple, raw sound and think it's the 60's again.  And if you watch them live with no sound, i wouldn't be able to tell the strokes from the hives from the friggin' leaves.
"EVERYTHINGS PLAYED OUT" :!:

The Strokes are fucking incredible...I was listening to them when they only had reased The Modern Age EP.  Then "Is This It" was released and they blew up.  Which I think is cool, because the majority of pop music sucks.  I seen them live and theyre simply amazing.  In fact my nick name is a Strokes song also known as Ze Newie.

Quote from: jtmwhat do you mean they sound nothing alike?  they all have the same simple, raw sound and think it's the 60's again.  And if you watch them live with no sound, i wouldn't be able to tell the strokes from the hives from the friggin' leaves.

You're insane.

First of all, The Hives do not think its the sixties, they think its the late eighties in the Bay Area.

The strokes think its the late 70's in New York.

The Vines think its a hybrid of the late 60's in Liverpool and the early 90's in Seattle.

These bands ARE overrated, but you have absolutely no ear for anything if you honestly think they sound alike.  I imagine what you're experiencing right about now is equivalent to what someone feels when they find out they're color blind.

As for "same, simple, raw sound"  the only part of that phrase that is entirely accurate for all three is "raw".   They sound raw, but each in their own entirely different way.  The strokes are the only ones you could honestly classify as simple.  

I imagine that either you really have no ear, or you're making your assumptions based on a couple radio singles (you should actually listen to the albums before you pass judgment).

Quote from: Film StudentFirst of all, The Hives do not think its the sixties, they think its the late eighties in the Bay Area.

The strokes think its the late 70's in New York.

The Vines think its a hybrid of the late 60's in Liverpool and the early 90's in Seattle.

I think it's the late 50's in Djibouti. Does that mean I'm wrong?

The New York rock scene is awesome.  Aside from The Strokes check out : The Mooney Suzuki, Interpol, The Walkmen, The Sexy Magazines, The Realistics, and French Kicks to name a few.....Oh yea The, fucking, Yeah Yeah Yeahs!  In my opinion these bands kick major ass.

I saw the Strokes in October as a main act.  I was really looking forward to seeing them since I've been a fan since their LP came out.  They were very good live, but their act was short.  It was around 40 mins, completly unacceptable for a main act.  Not even an encore.

I'm a sucker for the "The _____" bands

The Strokes
The Hives
The Vines
The White Stripes
The Moldy Peaches
The (International) Noise Conspiracy

Quote from: SHAFTR

I'm a sucker for the "The _____" bands

What about The The?  They have some interesting stuff.

Quote from: SHAFTRI saw the Strokes in October as a main act.  I was really looking forward to seeing them since I've been a fan since their LP came out.  They were very good live, but their act was short.  It was around 40 mins, completly unacceptable for a main act.  Not even an encore.

i think you saw the same show i did... at the greek??? maybe... they were very good, but true, they didn't stay on too long, and it was cold.

Quote from: life_boyWhat about The The?  They have some interesting stuff.

They're great. I love The Naked Self.

I don't like the vines.

Moldy Peaches = AWESOME!

The Moldy Peaches are awesome, and the Adam Green "Garfield" album is cool too....so are the Kimya Dawson albums..

The Strokes dropped Nigel Godrich as the producer of their new album. I am NOT happy about this.

"Is This It" is a feckin' fantastic album.

And that is a medical FACT!  :P

the new Rolling Stone says that their new album will come out on OCTOBER 21ST.  it will be preceded by a month of club dates, and followed by a regular tuesday night spot on conan o brien during the month of november. :)

"We joke that everyone said the last record sounded like the late Seventies", says the Strokes Albert Hammond Jr., "and this one they're going to say is the early Eighties."

From nme.com:

THE STROKES have revealed details about their eagerly awaited new album - describing it as 'more mellow' but with elements of MICHAEL JACKSON's 'BILLIE JEAN'.

Out of the 11 tracks set to make the final cut, working titles include 'Under Control', 'Nightmare', 'Supernova', 'Raga', 'Ze Newie', and 'Meet Me In The Bathroom'.

Drummer Fabrizio Moretti said: "We spent a lot of time looking for specific sounds."

Speaking about 'Nightmare', guitarist Albert Hammond Jr added: "That's probably one of my favourite drum sounds right there... It's kind of 'Billie Jean'-ish. We spent all this time to make it sound like a drum machine, but Fab still plays it."

According to singer Julian Casablancas, Nick Valensi "blew up two guitar amps getting that sound" for the solo in 'Supernova'.

The band's "first more mellow song", 'Under Control', was recorded live - annoying neighbours: "The neighbours on the seventh floor complained about the noise," said Hammond Jr. "It was four in the morning, and we had to pull the plug. And that was the take where we felt like we had it. But it was all right because we came in the next day and got it."

The Strokes also spoke about the aborted sessions with Radiohead producer Nigel Godrich. Hammond Jr insisted: "We got along really, really well".

He told Rolling Stone: "But we just had different ways of working. We'll spend days getting the right drum sound. We don't want to hear 'We'll fix it in the mix'".

As previously reported on NME.COM, The Strokes performed three new songs at Japan's Summer Sonic Festival in Osaka and Tokyo over the weekend (August 2-3). It was the band's first live show since winter 2002.

The new album is due for release on October 20.

Quote from: NMETHE STROKES have revealed details about their eagerly awaited new album - describing it as 'more mellow' but with elements of MICHAEL JACKSON's 'BILLIE JEAN'.

that quote is such bullshit.  nme always blows everything out of proportion and that quote is so out of context.  the strokes described ONE SONG as their most mellow, and talked about the drum sound on ONE SONG sounding like the drums on billie jean.  not a full album of mellow michael jackson influenced songs.  sheesh.          


post 1000. 8)

Quote from: Dirk'Meet Me In The Bathroom'.

that could be good.

Quote from: P

Quote from: Dirk
'Meet Me In The Bathroom'.

that could be good.

as long they don't start comparing that song to a George Michael tune, Wham years

drum clasp

This new record will make or break The Strokes. Either they're going to be one of the best bands of this decade or they're not. October 21 will tell all. It's my most anticipated album of the year. Very exciting.

Quote from: European SonThis new record will make or break The Strokes. Either they're going to be one of the best bands of this decade or they're not. October 21 will tell all. It's my most anticipated album of the year. Very exciting.

Well regardless, I think Is This It is a pretty good album and shouldn't be overlooked by the success/failure of the next

Quote from: tremolosloth

Quote from: European SonThis new record will make or break The Strokes. Either they're going to be one of the best bands of this decade or they're not. October 21 will tell all. It's my most anticipated album of the year. Very exciting.

Well regardless, I think Is This It is a pretty good album and shouldn't be overlooked by the success/failure of the next

Of course not, but also don't overlook the fact that they have the chance to jump to greatness with this new album. After seeing them live last year, I believe that they have the potential to be huge. This is going to be one of the most telling moments for rock music of this decade.

I really don't think that time has come yet

this just my two Lincolns but........they are good even though every sond on is this it sounds the same IMO

"Is This It" is a good album, but it's really easy to get sick of it. It's catchy stuff, but it borders on throw-away pop music. The kind of stuff that you love when you first hear it, but it just doesn't survive.

I think The White Stripes will win in the end.

Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI think The White Stripes will win in the end.

Uh oh, I hope this doesn't turn into a WS vs TS argument

but you are absolutely right

uuuuuh oooooooh

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman"Is This It" is a good album, but it's really easy to get sick of it.

I agree. I loved it at first, but now I try to throw it back into the CD mix when I'm driving in my car and end up pulling it right back out.

The new album needs to be filled with more songs like "Hard to Explain" (songs that don't grab your attention at first, but that you come to love after a few listens). Basically, they need to add more substance. I've been preaching to people for months now about this. I hope I don't turn out to look like a fool in the end.

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman"Is This It" is a good album, but it's really easy to get sick of it. It's catchy stuff, but it borders on throw-away pop music. The kind of stuff that you love when you first hear it, but it just doesn't survive.

I think The White Stripes will win in the end.

The White Stripes will win in the end man.  It's assured.  Don't get me wrong, the Strokes are fun to listen to on occasion, but their shit just doesn't hold up after repeated listenings.  I've had the Stripes in my car for over a month now, and I'm still not sick of them.

new album entitled "Room On Fire".  release date October 21st US.  October 20th everywhere else.

Some tour dates have also been announced. Looks like they're playing theaters instead of clubs this time around.....weird. I'm still waiting on an Atlanta date.

Then I shan't go

you're REALLY going to have to squint...

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.fortunecity.com%2Fthemodernage%2Fseethis.jpg&hash=6509536460fac9b70cdb989f6ab4509f7e84f5e1)

new album ROOM ON FIRE cover

and rumored full tracklisting according to rolling stone...

What Ever Happened?
Reptilia
Automatic Stop
12:51
You Talk Way Too Much
Between Love and Hate
Meet Me in the Bathroom
Under Control
The End Has No End
The Way It Is
I Can't Win

There is a clearer version of the new album cover on thestrokes.com. It is awful. What a horrible cover. What are The Strokes thinking?

You can now download the new single "12:51" on many peer-to-peer sharing networks.

clearer version...

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.fortunecity.com%2Fthemodernage%2Fstrokesbig.jpg&hash=798cdeb732b5765f33443e3bd77bdfde99891da6)

you can also stream the single from their website www.thestrokes.com

Hmmm... it looks African.  I heard they shipped an African tribe into the studio to record a song with them.  They wanted kind of an African sound, but I think the tribe got out of hand when they slaughtered the calf and burned part of the studio from lighting a bonfire.  

Anyway... I heard they were trying to break into the Zimbabwe market, where they have little or no exposure.

I think it sounds pretty good...is that the lead guitar that sounds oh so much like a keyboard?  Cool

Quote from: tremoloslothI think it sounds pretty good...is that the lead guitar that sounds oh so much like a keyboard?  Cool

No, no, no... like an African keyboard.  

or African keytar!
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.keytarmusic.com%2Fimages%2FKTliveMulti1bev_small.GIF&hash=5b0252034358f81cd0d178ee59c622ca34f58394)

Weeoheeoeh!

Go back to Africa, Pawbloe :x

yeah, they didnt use any keyboards.  they just tuned the guitars all funny to sound like them.  

Strokes Album Preview: Gideon Yago Tours Their Room On Fire
Source: MTV.COM 08.26.2003  

NEW YORK — "I don't want my record to sound like a demo," Strokes singer Julian Casablancas says. "I mean, I like the demo, I like the vibe and all, but it's [been] done."

At the moment Casablancas is staring into a beer in the garden of an East Village restaurant, trying desperately hard to stay awake. He's been up for three days straight, mastering the Strokes' new record, Room on Fire, working out the kinks in tone and feel that will make it, he hopes, "move people in general."

"If you're in a bar and a certain song comes on and the vibe is just different, it evokes the kinds of things that you want to feel, and if music can do that it's a very special thing," he says. "It's those sorts of feelings that we kind of play with, but there's a lot of chance of failing."

Pressure on the band is heavy to avoid the dreaded sophomore slump. The bandmembers are wrangling with their label and with each other over singles, mixes and artwork, because this time expectations are even higher.

When the Strokes released their debut in 2001, they were met by a swell of critical praise and hype matched only by the disgruntled backlash that characterized them as privileged bon vivants undeserving of their opportunities and their fans. (T-shirts bearing a Strokes logo that reads "The Socialites" are popular in the same East Village that spawned the band.) Somewhere in between all that bluster — both pro- and anti-Strokes — were five fans of guitar rock still bowled over by the fact that they're getting the opportunity to make records.

"For us it's important not to f--- up what other generations have given to us," Casablancas says. "The whole point is doing something with what we've got, and I don't think we play with that lightly. We're normal people, we're not super serious artists, but we take what we do very seriously."

Based on a listen to Room on Fire, all that hard work is paying off. The exceptionally catchy disc takes the well-known Strokes sound — a retro-bang of twisting guitars, precision drum and bass and epic heartbreak vocals — and spins it in less than obvious directions. Like the Cars, Tom Petty and the Pixies before them, the Strokes play with the dynamics of guitar pop by layering track over track in a wall of braided sound only to strip it all back to the barest melodies at crucial moments.

Some songs, like "Reptilia" and "12:51," which the Strokes are shooting a video for with Roman Coppola, have an almost futuristic feel that makes it clear why they first tapped Radiohead producer Nigel Godrich for Room on Fire (the band eventually split with Godrich to reteam with Is This It producer Gordon Raphael). Guitars are toned down to mimic keyboards, and live drums hit with such clean precision they sound almost like loops — so convincingly so that I mistook them as such and was smartly corrected by Casablancas and bassist Nikolai Fraiture.

Other songs, like "You Talk Way Too Much" and "The End Has No End," are virtual throwbacks to the modish rock and roll that got the Strokes noticed in the first place. There are slow, plaintive songs, like "Under Control," and well-designed toe-tap hooks, found on tracks like "What Ever Happened?"

In short, it is a record that is as exciting to listen to as the Strokes' first EP and holds the same promise. Now someone just needs to convince the Strokes of that. "One of the big songwriting things for me has always been: always think what you do sucks," says Casablancas. "Because the second you stop believing that, you suck. And that's a fact."

Quote from: tremoloslothI think it sounds pretty good...is that the lead guitar that sounds oh so much like a keyboard?  Cool

According to singer Julian Casablancas, Nick Valensi "blew up two guitar amps getting that sound" for the solo in 'Supernova'"*

*Supernova is now 12:51

can now download a much clearer sounding version of 12:51 on www.thestrokes.com in MP3 format.

album pushed back a week to October 28th.  anyone planning on seeing them on tour before then, if you cant wait the new album has now been leaked online.

Quote from: themodernage02if you cant wait the new album has now been leaked online.

Thanks! I'm on it.

I really like the new single and am fairly into the Strokes as a good, solid band to have around. Not the second coming of anything or really that genuinely exciting, but they certainly have the musical and cultural skills to outlast their trendiness and hype.

Got the new album yesterday. It's really great. 11 tracks totaling up about 35 minutes. Easily recommended.. maybe I'll actually see a show of their's in 2004 as I've missed the last two that have come here. I can't get enough of the Strokes.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.amazon.com%2Fimages%2FP%2FB0000C9ZLD.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg&hash=3b3d761495d764eaf36f6f111952fd344446b665)

The NEW Album is (finally) OUT NOW in America, and its pretty fucking good, so let me extend my recommendation to pick it up if you are so inclined.  

Rolling Stone gave Room On Fire 4 STARS

Change is good. It can be important, even historic. It is not always necessary. One of the best things about Room on Fire, the Strokes' second album, is that, in most of the ways that matter, it is exactly like their first. Nick Valensi's and Albert Hammond Jr.'s dirty-treble guitars cut 'n' thrust over the hard-rubber bounce of bassist Nikolai Fraiture and drummer Fabrizio Moretti. Singer-songwriter Julian Casablancas delivers his put-up-or-fuck-off telegrams in a brusque, corrosive drawl, and producer Gordon Raphael wraps up the whole package with airtight austerity. On first impact, Room on Fire is to 2001's Is This It as the Ramones' second album, Leave Home, was to their knuckle-sandwich debut -- a perfect twin.
But the Strokes who made Room on Fire are not the cocky overnight sensations of two years ago. In the album's opening damage report, "What Ever Happened?," Casablancas' voice is so disfigured by fuzz in the first verse ("I wanna be forgotten/And I don't wanna be reminded"), it's as if he's singing over a broken speakerphone from a burning building. Like any good New Yorker, Casablancas is suspicious and impatient by nature. But the distance and distrust in his songwriting and ashen monotone on Is This It were nothing like this. Casablancas sings the title chorus of "You Talk Way Too Much" with cold, dry calm -- the high, mocking whine of the lead-guitar break provides extra cruelty -- and wraps up the brittle reggae of "Automatic Stop" with even less gallantry: "I'm not your friend/I never was."

The music is just as terse and unforgiving. In "Reptila," instruments blitz in and out of your face with the abrupt precision of a Lee Perry dub mix: a single, grinding guitar; Fraiture's pumping, one-note bass; the whole band in full, flailing rave-up. At times, the near-mono severity of Raphael's production seems designed to keep the Strokes off the radio. There is so much boxy compression on the high-speed bass, guitars and drums in "The Way It Is" that it sounds like the band cut it in the locked trunk of a '56 Chevy doing 110 miles an hour.

There are also jolts of color and dropped guard -- hints of what the Strokes must have hoped for in their aborted sessions for this record with Radiohead producer Nigel Godrich -- in the whistling-synthesizer guitar lick in "12:51," a cheerful shot of '78 Cars; and the pneumatic, sighing strum of "Meet Me in the Bathroom." But another of the best things about Room on Fire is that, in the face of hysterical expectation, the Strokes have resisted the temptation to hit the brakes, grow up and screw around with a sound that doesn't need fixing -- yet. "Please don't slow me down, if I'm going too fast," Casablancas sings with heavily distorted irritation in "Reptila." If you want comfort and clarity, you're definitely in the wrong room. This record was built for thrills and speed.

DAVID FRICKE

you know, so basically, for fans of Britney and boy bands and other meaningless drivel.

I agree with the review mostly, except that I wanted at least a little bit more change.  It's been 2 years.  Maybe I bought into the whole hype of it, but if Al broke 2 amps trying to make his guitar sound like a keyboard, then my question is

Al, be a dear and buy a keyboard

I downloaded it a while back and have since deleted it.  I don't feel the urge to buy it.

3/5

well i think you should give it another listen.  one, i've had it for over a month now and the cd sounds much better than the downloaded versions, (noticeably so on a few songs).  and two, i think once you start listening to it you'll see that it really does have a completely different vibe from their first record.   the only song that would really 'fit' on their first record from this is Meet Me In The Bathroom, probably because it was the first of the new songs to be written.  and as a band you can tell they are getting better, and expanding their boundaries.  as far as something different, Under Control is a huge departure for them as well as setting them even further apart from any of the other "garage rock" bands.  who would have imagined a Bob Marley-esque ballad?

..i am prob. in the minority ..but it's better than the first one IMO......

Quote from: themodernage02well i think you should give it another listen.  one, i've had it for over a month now and the cd sounds much better than the downloaded versions, (noticeably so on a few songs).  and two, i think once you start listening to it you'll see that it really does have a completely different vibe from their first record.   the only song that would really 'fit' on their first record from this is Meet Me In The Bathroom, probably because it was the first of the new songs to be written.  and as a band you can tell they are getting better, and expanding their boundaries.  as far as something different, Under Control is a huge departure for them as well as setting them even further apart from any of the other "garage rock" bands.  who would have imagined a Bob Marley-esque ballad?

Agreed. Under Control is probably their best song, if only because it's a touch different.

As Godardian said before, quite good, not the second coming of anything though (I'll leave that to the Libertines  8)  ).

I picked this up last night and will be posting as soon as I get a chance to give it a front-to-back listen... sounds good so far, though. Not as immediately grabbing as the first one, but haven't been able to give it proper attention just yet.

Quote from: NEON MERCURY..i am prob. in the minority ..but it's better than the first one IMO......

my girlfriend likes it better too.  i'm not sure if its my favorite or not, but it probably is a better album as far as the arrangements and their musicianship is concerned.  but theres a raw kind of urgency to the first album that is missing here.  but in its place there are probably better songs!  so, who knows.  i like Reptillia, The End Has No End, the aforementioned Under Control the best i think thus far.  although i think the whole thing is great.  i was extremely worried about being let down, because you never know, but i'm relieved and completely satisfied with the album.

I've given it about 8 or so listens since getting it and I am a big fan.  Is it better than the first...I don't know.  It's hard to say, it feels like a continuation.  They haven't changed or experimented much but that's ok, this is their 2nd album.  It still is an enjoyable listen and is just as 'cool' as the first.

i skipped all of the The band hype and thus skipped the Strokes.

for some reason i was interested this time and listened to the 30 sec clips on MTV.com. that was enough to get me to buy it.

i'm really digging it. my favs are Automatic Stop and Under Control......i think the single may be my least fav of the album.

so now, i need to hear Is This It? prob. ask for it for Christmas.

am i dreaming or did they re-release it packaged with a DVD at one point? i'm guessing this is now out of print since it's only on Amazon.com as an expensive import?........this is what i'll be shooting for if possible.

Quote from: bigideasi skipped all of the The band hype and thus skipped the Strokes.

for some reason i was interested this time and listened to the 30 sec clips on MTV.com. that was enough to get me to buy it. i'm really digging it. my favs are Automatic Stop and Under Control......i think the single may be my least fav of the album. so now, i need to hear Is This It? prob. ask for it for Christmas.am i dreaming or did they re-release it packaged with a DVD at one point? i'm guessing this is now out of print since it's only on Amazon.com as an expensive import?........this is what i'll be shooting for if possible.

yes, i think a lot of people will brush them off for the same reason because a lot of the "the" bands are nowhere near as good as the strokse are and by being lumped into a catagory like that its gotten them a certain stigma i'm not sure they care for.  
yeah it did come out with a dvd containing all three of their roman coppola directed videos and 2 live performances from mtv2's first 2 dollar bill show (which were also directed by roman coppola).  i believe you can still purchase the dvd for like under five bucks of those same videos.  
also, i would recommend if you have not yet heard it, to buy the import version of IS THIS IT.  thte american release nixes a rocker "nyc cops" in favor of easily their worst song "when it started".  after september 11th happened and their album was just about to come out, they realized they'd rather avoid any potential controversy by releasing a song that contained the lyric "new york city cops, they aint too smart", so it was removed from the american release  however, the album had already been released in the rest of the world with the spinal tapish glove on butt cover/  so they had to then, go into the studio and in 2 days write and record a song to replace it.  in doing so, they created a boppy little tune, but pretty much a throwaway. in my opinion the album loses something not having a rocker in there at that point changes the feel of the record entirely.  also, i prefer the EP versions of 'the modern age' and especially 'barely legal'.  i dont care for the album version of that.

is the song worth 4 bucks? that's the difference at Best Buy for the American and import versions. i'm thinking i could ask for the regular one and download NYC cops. plus, i don't think my mom would be too excited about buying me the import with that cover.

one of the reasons i didn't like The Strokes at first was because i thought they were too cocky. i saw them on SNL and on some of the talk shows. i remember on one the lead singer threw his mic down and maybe the drummer threw his drum over. i just think that's dumb and cliche' at this point. for some reason, after hearing about the new album coming out, Last Nite got in my head. luckily you can download the MA Ep version on Amazon.com.

where can you buy the DVD for 5 bucks at? do you have it?

The Strokes will be on Conan O'Brien every Tuesday in November, starting tonight.  Like, right now.  In about ... 40 minutes.

I suppose I'll eat my crow pertaining to a post I made a few months back about The Strokes delivering a classic album and all of that. Don't get me wrong, I'm really digging the new record, but I now don't think they have it in them to be one of the greats. But what they will do is deliver solid rock and roll for years to come. However, in recent interviews, they expressed desire to make something that will last. So we'll see what happens. I'm seeing them this Sunday in Atlanta. They were awesome when I last saw them a year ago. Can't wait.

Quote from: bigideas......i think the single may be my least fav of the album.

i think i may be the only one here who really likes the single

Quote from: Meatwad

Quote from: bigideas......i think the single may be my least fav of the album.

i think i may be the only one here who really likes the single

I like it quite a bit, too. Definitely NOT my least fave on the album.

One thing I really like about the new record is how they spruced up "Meet Me In the Bathroom" for the studio recording. I've been listening to that song for a year now via bootlegs, and of all of the new songs they played last tour that was the one I thought needed the most work. The studio version delivers a forceful, determined sound that the early version lacked. Big improvement. I'm not, however, sure that I like what they did to "Between Love and Hate" (also known as "Ze Newie"). I think the uptempo early version might have worked better. Hmm.

I'm really loving this album. I think "You Talk Way Too Much" is my favorite song so far; anything with that "Be My Baby" drum roll has me from the start (it worked for JAMC's "Just Like Honey," too). They really are like the Ramones in the way that the songs seem to be all "good" (melodious, catchy) parts.

Some have mentioned "Under Control" as a favorite... I certainly don't dislike it, but it's probably my least favorite on the album. They do punchy a good sight better than balladeering.

no one mentions Automatic Stop and that's probably my favorite.

i don't want to retread the thread, but if you didn't know......they're appearing on Conan the next 3 Tuesday nights. this Tues. they played Reptilia

I saw The Strokes last night. It may just be me, but I think these guys have majorly improved over the last year. When I saw them in 2002, they sounded like a cool band with cool songs that you just want to party to. When I saw them last night they sounded like professional musicians. They are dedicated to being a great band and their hard work was apparant in their performance. "Reptilia" was astounding in person. The U.S. tour is over, but any European posters here must go check them out when they came your way. And in case anyone is wondering, the Room on Fire songs trump the old Is This It? songs live.

I listen to Room on Fire at least once a day. When I first heard it, it was much like when I first heard Is This It - everything was very cruisy and easy to listen to.
Then riffs, lyrics, and drumbeats start coming out and you get a real feel for the album.

At the moment I'm really into Reptilia, 12:51 and The End Has No End. The first three tracks are great. I didn't like You Talk Way Too Much at all when I first heard it, but I'm into it now.

Modern Age02, you seem to be The Strokes guru here - you were talking about the strokes taking NYC cops off Is This It, which I sort of knew about, but is this still the case?

I'm just curious is all, because I live in Australia, and we have the glove and butt cover cd of Is This It with NYC cops. Does America have that cover which looks a bit like a map on it premanently, + do you have to order and import for the other cover?

yeah america still (and probably forever) has the weird map looking cover, so i ordered the import version to begin with 2 years ago because i didnt like the idea of my album being censored.  (although i can understand why, i just think that the album is much much better the original way.)

Yeah I totally agree. It's a much cooler cover too. Does anyone have their current set list at the moment?

I'll be seeing them in january, when they come out to aus

well, i saw them the first two shows of the tour.  and i dont remember the order but the songs played were........

show oct. 9th  they played in no particular order with the exception of opening with Between Love And Hate and closing with Take It Or Leave it. (no encore by the way, as ever.)

between love and hate
what ever happened
reptillia
soma
the modern age
someday
alone together
last nite
hard to explain
new york city cops
automatic stop
12:51
you talk way too much
under control
the end has no end
the way it is
i cant win
take it or leave it

setlist friday oct. 10th
again, dont remember the order. they opened with Under Control and closed with Take It Or Leave It. shorter set tonite. only 16 songs, not 18. all the sames as last nights show but not alonetogether or youtalkwaytoomuch.

what ever happened
reptillia
automatic stop
12:51
between love and hate
under control
the end has no end
the way it is
i cant win
the modern age
soma
someday
last nite
hard to explain
new york city cops
take it or leave it

Quote from: mister misterYeah I totally agree. It's a much cooler cover too. Does anyone have their current set list at the moment?

I'll be seeing them in january, when they come out to aus

This is not in the exact order, but they played these songs last night in Atlanta, GA:

Reptillia
Automatic Stop
Hard To Explain
Modern Age
Alone Together
Take It Or Leave It
I Can't Win
New York City Cops
Someday
12:51
What Ever Happened?
You Talk Way Too Much
Between Love & Hate
Under Control
The End Has No End

here are some more...
http://www.geocities.com/hardtoexplain8/

Wow, that site's pretty amazing - so they are looking for people to record all their different concerts? kinda cool.

When you think about it 16-18 songs isn't that much when you consider how short their songs are. They never do encores? That's weird. I'm usually dying while waiting for encores anyway cos I'm so buggered by then.

When they come for big day out, for the solo shows I'm going to try and get as close as I can, in front of albert. he's on the left hand side of the stage isn't he? (right for the audience). Do they really not move around that much? Does Julian come up to the crowd much?

I saw them a year ago and they were good, but for the main act their set list was so short and no encore.  They played for about 30 mins.

I'm actually really loving the new album, really appreciating the way they can lurch from one beautifully textured, very melodic bit to the next... I think I like it better than the first (though there's nothing so catchy as "Someday," probably my favorite Strokes song ever). I actually think I like it a little better than the new Belle and Sebastian album which, before I'd heard them both, I would never have believed and in fact would have denounced as blasphemy. But there you have it...

Quote from: mister mister
When they come for big day out, for the solo shows I'm going to try and get as close as I can, in front of albert.

Albert's looking pretty awesome nowadays. He has a Blonde on Blonde era Dylan fro going on. He's let it grow since Is This It?. I thought it looked great.

QuoteDoes Julian come up to the crowd much?

Yes, usually during "Take It Or Leave It."

That's what I'm talkin about!

<----------------- curly hair kicks arse.  8)

You can download The Strokes performances from November on Conan O'brien as well as an interview at  http://www.thestrokesfan.com/

Quote from: mister mister

<----------------- curly hair kicks arse.  8)

amen

NEW STROKES SONG!  (stop the presses, alert the media)...

their new single "Reptilia" has a b-side called "Modern Girls and Old Fashioned Men" which is a duet with tour opener Regina Specktor they recorded a few months ago.  its pretty bizarre, but you can download it for 99 cents exclusively at iTunes.  (it was my first paid download, I BROKE!)

what song did they play on letterman a week ago?

the end has no end

THE STROKES START AGAIN

THE STROKES have said they feel like they are "starting from scratch" as they begin work on their third album.

The band recently took time out from recording sessions in New York to make appearances at the T In The Park and Oxegen festivals (July 10-11).

Speaking exclusively to NME.COM, the band gave the lowdown on the band's third album. So far, three songs have been demoed, with Albert Hammond Jr saying the group feel like they're working on their first record.

He said: "Everything feels new to me. In the new studio, it doesn't feel like we're making our third album, it feels like we're starting from scratch."

Singer Julian Casablancas added: "We've built a studio and started work on the new album. If it was done in a week it'd be good for me. The sooner the better! We haven't set ourselves any deadline. It's too early to even talk about titles. We've just recorded three demos."

Juicebox (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0SQ6C0TZGYKZ331FC3HMQVNRN2)

Thanks.

I'm getting a Weezer-vibe from it. "Hash Pipe," maybe?

that's utter shite if you ask me, and i think the strokes areWERE ok.
:yabbse-undecided:

first impression: David Kahne ruined the Strokes.

Quote from: raneThanks.

I'm getting a Weezer-vibe from it. "Hash Pipe," maybe?

I don't know so much about that...fer starters the strokes used more than three chords...and i dig it...if you ask me (which no one ever does  :(  ) Room On Fire was good but i thought it sounded too much like their first (at least as far as production goes) this is just one song however..i don't love it..but i don't hate it either...i'm sure the new album will have some gems that will put a little kick in my step while its blaring through the pod.

Quote from: squints

Quote from: raneThanks.

I'm getting a Weezer-vibe from it. "Hash Pipe," maybe?

I don't know so much about that...

It made sense when I said it.

I don't completely hate it either.

Quote from: cronopiothat's utter shite if you ask me, and i think the strokes areWERE ok.
:yabbse-undecided:

i'll eat my day old words and say that the song's quite catchy after a few listens, but dammit it sounds franzish and that can't be too good cos those dudes already showed us how olympically annoying they can get when overplayed.

Hate the verse with the bass riff. Otherwise, okay, very derivative. Hopefully, not the direction the album is going.

Just heard it for the second time on the radio coming home from work.  Almost sounds like a different band.  I'm down for changing your sound and all, just not sucking.  Which I think this does.  

Paul's Boutique -- Check Your Head = Good Solid Change
Ok Computer -- Kid A = Awesome Change

Room on Fire -- Album#3 = Hmm...?

-- = +

just sayin.

Ehh... late and tired...

Quote from: cronopio...but dammit it sounds franzish and that can't be too good cos those dudes already showed us how olympically annoying they can get when overplayed.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

another strokes song, "You Only Live Twice" leaked here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JHSLSRF8
get it quick.

wow, what a much better song

can anyone host the song

sorry, not good with the technicalities, not sure how to host it.
Damn nice tune though.

darn.   well i'm not saying you have to try it but try yousendit.com

just browse for it on your computer.

Okay, here ya go:

you only live once (http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2AR4QJY7YVNME2T141VESLSLO0)

wow thanks so much!

Don't get me wrong, I loved the first two Strokes albums but these new singles aren't cutting it. It seems like they are forcing a new direction, very pre-fab sounding.

It does seem like that a bit.  But I remember thinking when I heard their first album, 'is that guy always gonna sing with that voice effect?'

i can dig it

Secretive Strokes Say Full-Frontal Nudity Might Sneak Into 'Juicebox' Clip
Source: MTV News 10.12.2005

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv.com%2Fshared%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fimages%2Fs%2FStrokes%2Fsq_strokes_int090705_mtv.jpg&hash=d4581efdc37ecc33697aab1d29c1a66ce684a65c)

The Strokes aren't talking much about the video for "Juicebox," the first single from their forthcoming First Impressions of Earth; the clip will be shot this weekend in Manhattan with Michael Palmieri (Foo Fighters, Finch) at the helm. What little details they've revealed, they've revealed with mulish reluctance. But burnished frontman Julian Casablancas' description of the video is intriguing, to say the least.

"We're doing a live performance at a radio station [in the video], which will be broadcast all across New York," he explained. "There might be full-frontal nudity. MTV will not play this video because it's so controversial, [but] it will be groundbreaking."

A source involved with the video's casting had even more intriguing information to add: The treatment calls for people of all genders, ages, ethnicities and sexual preferences who are "comfortable" with exhibitionistic displays of love, tenderness and affection — to put it very mildly.

Casablancas and the rest of the Strokes are keeping tight-lipped about the production because it's first and foremost an ever-changing beast — scenes are being cut, others added. It's a work in progress. But there's also the video's ending, which is set in stone. That, the bandmembers say, they'd like to keep veiled, for now — it's a surprise. But according to manager Ryan Gentiles, in the video, the Strokes will be seen entering the radio station, and they'll perform the "Juicebox" cut; as the song goes out over the station's airwaves, it sparks frenzied make-out sessions between whoever hears the track. Beyond that, he, too, remains mum — can't ruin the surprise, can we?

Fans of the Strokes might just experience a similar reaction January 3, when the band finally releases its third album, First Impressions of Earth, because it's been two years since the release of 2003's Room on Fire. The record's also been a favorite conversational topic for garage- and indie-rock aficionados since last spring.

The album will feature 14 tracks, including "You Only Live Once," "Razor Blade," "On the Other Side," "Electricityscape," "Killing Lies," "Red Light," "The Ize of the World" and "Ask Me Anything."

The Strokes, said Casablancas, began working on the album last year with producer David Kahne (Sugar Ray, Soul Coughing), opting to ditch longtime knob-turner Gordon Raphael (Regina Spektor, Blonde Redhead) this time around, to help push the band's evolution.

"We wanted to make a collective effort to try to make [the album] different and better — bigger and better," Casablancas said. "We wanted to protect our ideals — what we consider to be good taste — and we needed someone to help us take it to the next level, without us having to compromise anything. We wanted to evolve and progress and build on what we started, and this album is what we thought was a natural progression."

"With our first two records, there are some harder songs and there are some more mellow songs, but the albums, as a whole, stay the same, in terms of dynamics," guitarist Nick Valensi said. "But Kahne really helped us make our mellow songs more mellow and make our harder songs really friggin' hard. We also wanted to make a point of not repeating ourselves. Sometimes we'll be working on a new song and something sounds sort of good but it's like, 'We'd done that on that song and we did it on that song, too, so let's not do that again.' With every new song that you have, you really want to be thinking as originally as possible and not leaning on these old tricks you can pull out to make your song sound good."

It took about eight months for the band — from the writing of the first track to the recording of the last — to finish First Impressions, Casablancas said. One tune, "Heart in a Cage," was actually recycled from the Room on Fire sessions: "It almost had a fighting chance of making it on [that record]."

To Valensi, the single "Juicebox" is something of a departure for the band — even though it sounds as though it too could've been a Room reject.

"Juicebox came out as a surprise to me," he said. "When we were first working on that song, I didn't think it was going to come out as aggressive as it sounds, but I'm very pleased with the aggression in it. We'd never really done anything that intense before, so that song just seemed like an obvious candidate for first single for me, as it's just such a departure for us."

Of course, soon after First Impressions hits stores, the Strokes promise to return to the road for a full U.S. club tour. First, there's a festival tour of South America in late October, followed by separate runs in Europe, the U.K., Japan and Australia.

another strokes song, "15 Minutes Of Pain" leaked here: http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MTOSEYIDSQRV0D72UAIBG27X7
or here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HYDYPEIF
get it quick.

ANOTHER strokes song, "On The Other Side" leaked here: http://www.stereogum.com/archives/002011.html
get it quick.

I haven't listened to the new one but i hate 15 minutes.  r u sure thats suppose to be on the new album?

it may not make the final cut since all the leaked tracks come up as () of 15 and they probably wont include them all, but i wonder how they are being leaked in such a one by one fashion in the first place.

ya its odd how it's happening.  i only really like you only live once though.

I got 15 minutes from somewhere else but the first lyrics are: "It was all just a dream...oh no"..is that the same song? if it is...i'm digging it much more than Juicebox or On the Otherside. Something about the bass playing on those two songs really pisses me off. You only live once is great and I still have pretty high hopes for the whole album

Hmm...

15 Minutes reminds me of The Walkmen :saywhat: Sorry Mod.

Quote from: killafilmHmm...

15 Minutes reminds me of The Walkmen :saywhat: Sorry Mod.

i completely agree

All these songs are growing on me.  I like em

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filelodge.com%2Ffiles%2Fhdd2%2F17671%2Fstrokescoverartlg1ud.jpg&hash=d911146d3ba1da3d324b239e84873a0a47bfe612)

another strokes song, "Razor Blade" leaked here: http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1D04U4BCF2DB03E8K8OIZPJ3ZH
or here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P8PYLPTJ
get it quick.  this is getting ridiculous

http://marathonpacks.com/Files/juicebox.mov


........., ...

Alright then

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi5.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy154%2Fpubrick%2Fakalter.jpg&hash=25716a64b0c92911ecdeb6ead722d79b36be8cc7)

Oh No You Didn't!

full album LEAKED finally: http://www.redlightglow.com/news/2005/12/02/the-strokes-first-impressions-of-earth-real-advance/

What's everyone's first impressions?  :wink:

Are any of the songs previously leaked any different?

Yay or Nay?

previous songs are the same.


i'd say YAY. i like evening sun a lot

it's strange  because two years ago the belle and sebastian and strokes albums came at the same time and both were considered dissapointments and these new two albums are good on first listen.

are the tracks up individually in mp3 format anywhere?

sO my sister won tickets on KROQ for the show at The Troubadour in L.A. this Friday.  She's taking me wouldn't you know it!  Can't wait, I've wanted to see 'em since they first came out.  Love The Strokes, love the new will love the live.

This band is so damn good live.  I've never seen 'em before but after talkin' with some peeps at the show who have years ago, I got the impression that they really perfected their live performance.  They spread out their songs perfectly, starting with 'Juicebox' (damn good intro song to get the energy goin') then a couple of new never before heard songs then a mixture of all three albums.  They began their encore with 'New York City Cops' and ended it with 'Take It Or Leave It' which is of course the perfect note to end on.  I just love this band, I don't care what.  And The Troubadour... I've been to nothing but arenas and outdoor venues this year and none of the shows  I've seen compare to the up close and personal atomsphere.

Oh yeah, saw Drew Barrymore, Keanu Reeves (guess what his reply was when the show ended), Jason Shwartzman, Incubus singer and Kirsten Dunst (I won't even go into the brief but irrelevant connection we had while brushing by eachother -  I've never been a big fan at all tell seeing her in person last night).

Pitchfork's Incorrect Review (http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/strokes/first-impressions-of-earth-original.shtml)

This new album is amazing! Such new stretches and different sounds.

i'm stumped...what was Keanu's reaction?

i'm going to guess it was 'whoa'.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffull-house-fun.tripod.com%2Fsitebuildercontent%2Fsitebuilderpictures%2F3-056-01.jpeg&hash=88da4e228495774888a23c22b80a107eb70f25c2)
You got it, dude!

your image isn't showing up, but i'm guessing it's a pic of Michelle from Full House with that quote.

did anyone buy the special edition of the album?
i'm probably going to buy it sometime soon, so i wondered if i should go ahead and spend the extra few dollars.

You're right, my friend.  'Twas Michelle Tanner.  I was going to re-do it then post something saying "it's there.  You're just messin' with me" with a picture of Joey saying "cut-it-out."  But it's just... not... worth it.
I was wondering about the SE of the album as well.

from what i hear, its just a cooler cardboard case and little like dressup dolls of them.  so, i didn't get it.  no extra nothings.

Strokes on SNL (http://www.youtube.com/w/The-Strokes-play-Juicebox-on-SNL?v=bZvv-a_Q1i8&search=strokes%20snl)

Are any of you diehards that bought all the solo projects, etc in between First and Angles?

I never got First, but I did fairly recently get Phrazes.

I see all the interviews saying that this was much more collaborative, but what I'm wondering is if Julian is actually singing on all tracks? 3 & 5 sound like someone else to me, but I'm not familiar with the other guy's voices.

He sings on all the tracks. There might be a backing vocal or two from one of the other dudes but it's really minor. He's just been singing really out of his register over the recent stuff. Listen to the first album and the new album and it's really night and day.

Quote from: modage on March 23, 2011, 04:32:52 PM
He sings on all the tracks. There might be a backing vocal or two from one of the other dudes but it's really minor. He's just been singing really out of his register over the recent stuff. Listen to the first album and the new album and it's really night and day.

There are all kind of vocal effects on the album, even pitch modulation at the end of at least 2 tracks I think, but track 3 really does not sound like him. It must be him though, because then every review would have something like, "and with track 3 Albert Hammond Jr takes the mic for the first time on a Strokes track," etc...

Something about track 8/Gratisfaction makes me think of Chairman of the Board - Give Me Just a Little More Time. Maybe just the opening vocal.

this album is great, under cover of darkness is my shit! and its great to hear Julian spreading his wings a little, along with the rest of the band. Could you expect any less though, what has it been 5 years since the last album? I just kinda got into the Strokes recently, of course I fell in love after hearing 'is this it' but I hadn't been able to get my hands on any of their albums until now.

Quote from: Reelist on March 26, 2011, 10:51:21 AM
this album is great

:ponder:

Quote from: Reelist on March 26, 2011, 10:51:21 AM
I just kinda got into the Strokes recently

Ahh. That explains it. Because the new album is by far their worst. There are a few good songs but overall it's a sloppy disjointed effort (made by a band who can hardly stand to be in the same room together making creative decisions) and even the best songs on this album don't come close to highlights of any of their other albums.  Unfortunately.  :yabbse-sad:

I enjoy it, too.

I wonder if the band had not spoken of how the sessions went if there would be a collective general consensus .5 higher rating or more, kinda like how I spoke of people complaining of The King of Limbs being too short or not enough tracks. When people want to like something, but can't, do they grab at the most common possible reason and use that as the excuse to make them feel at ease? All hypothetical thoughts with no answer. This is not to say I think it's so good that people can't not like it. Call Me Back was one that really pleasantly surprised me on first stream and it seems most people/reviewers don't care for it.

I've read through a bunch of reviews today out of curiosity and can't believe Taken For a Fool has not been once compared to Californication era RHCP on the studio recording. His vocals sound very Kiedis to me on that one. Doesn't Kiedis even use the word 'mama' a lot? Seeing the band rip through it on Letterman gave me a new appreciation for the song.

The Strokes' Albert Hammond Jr opens up about 'hardcore' drug problem

The Strokes' guitarist Albert Hammond, Jr. has opened up about the drug treatment he received while the band recorded their new album 'Angles'.

Hammond Jr didn't name the specific type of drug he was being treated for, but called his ordeal "hardcore".

He likened his problem, which came to a head in September 2009, to suffering from "a stroke".

Speaking to Spin, his bandmates also described their attempts to record with the guitarist around the time of his problem.

Guitarist Nick Valensi said: "We all saw something was broken – certain people getting into drugs. There was a lot of nodding off and passing out in the studio, like, 'Jesus, you're not awake to record your part, we have to wait four hours so you can nap'."

Hammond Jr admitted that he "wasn't really there" when the band started recording the album, and described the initial months following his rehab.

"I wasn't on any chemicals," he said. "It was hard – you have two good years of post-acute withdrawal. I was nervous and couldn't remember things. It's like having a stroke, no pun intended. You always do the crazy rock star thing, of course, but I'd rather be left with music from someone I admire than their funny stories of all the fucked-up shit they did."

Elsewhere in the interview frontman Julian Casablancas compared his solo output with that of The Strokes.

"I think almost everything I did on the solo thing [Casablancas released his 'Phrazes For The Young' album in 2010] felt so positive and almost everything I've ever done with The Strokes feels so negative and I just don't know why," he said.

Despite the apparent problems recording 'Angles' the album appears to be faring well commercially. It entered the UK charts at Number Three on Sunday (March 27).

Usually your music sucks when you get off drugs, not while you're on them.

I think this is their best album. Granted, I haven't yet listened to 'is this it' but I'll always be biased towards this one since its the first one that roped me in. I guess I just like the strokes, their lazy affect.