THE SHAPE OF THINGS

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October 01, 2003, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: godardianAs for the Mamet comparison, I'd say House of Games does everything right that Shape of Things doesn't when it came to the static-minimalism thing. The LOOK of LaBute's film doesn't hold a candle, which I think makes a lot of difference. They're such differerent stories, too.

I'd compare it more to Mamet's "Oleanna".

Ah... I reflexively think House of Games when I think "early Mamet" (films). I haven't seen Oleanna. Should see. Doesn't it have William H. Macy?
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October 01, 2003, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: godardianI haven't seen Oleanna. Should see. Doesn't it have William H. Macy?

Yes, he plays a teacher whose student accuses him of sexual harrassment. Just came out on DVD a week or so ago. Now if they would just release Mamet's "Homicide".
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October 01, 2003, 10:44:19 PM
I think Oleanna is my favorite Mamet-directed film. Pretty incendiary.

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December 03, 2003, 11:30:03 PM
Quote from: godardianI absolutely loved In the Company of Men and especially Your Friends and Neighbors.
completely agree, i am a big fan of lebute.

I watched this today.  overall, i liked it.  2 things i didn't like...the cheeseball friend, and i am not a fan of rachel.  I dunno, she just doesn't appeal to me.  she did do a great job though, i can say that.  

I felt this was sorta a vice versa in the company of men.  Both about attackin' the weaknesses of the pursuit of a partner.  And honestly I think, the portrayal of paul rudd's character is pretty right on.  Amazin' what some will do for just one persoin's heart...    :?

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July 06, 2004, 02:57:37 PM
wow.  i saw this movie last night on HBO.  i dont really care for Neil LaBute, in the same way i dont care for Todd Solondz.  they have their fans, but i'm just not one of them.  (i still havent seen In The Company of Men, although i am curious enough that i will soon).  the dialogue was a bit heavy adn stagey and rudd was alittle overboard at the beginning and usually i hate plays becoming movies that dont make a good transition, BUT somewhere during the film i sort of just was pulled in enough to the story that i didnt care.  i like rudd and weisz, and really liked the two supporting actors too.  i saw it steering bad for a while, but when the end came i was ABSOLUTELY FLOORED.  it was horrible, heartbreaking, just....really effective.   i liked the all Elvis Costello score, cool how it seemed like it was all This Years Model and When I Was Cruel, although i think someone else could make better use of it.  and the movie has sort of stuck with me today alittle bit too where i keep thinking about it.  so, i give it a pretty good.
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July 06, 2004, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: themodernage02the dialogue was a bit heavy adn stagey and rudd was alittle overboard at the beginning and usually i hate plays becoming movies that dont make a good transition, BUT somewhere during the film i sort of just was pulled in enough to the story that i didnt care.
It felt like a total Romantic Comedy parody to me. I loved it.
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