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Release date: Sept. 28, 2012
Starring: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Bruce Willis, Emily Blunt, Paul Dano
Directed by: Rian Johnson
Premise: A killer who works for the mob of the future recognizes one of his targets as his future self.
read the scrip, it was fucked up.
Rian Johnson did direct the only bad Breaking Bad episode, but this still looks good.
We need a thread about the best time travel movies.
Alright I just started one: http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=12163.0
Loved Brick, hated Bloom. Want this to be good. Most worrisome aspect so far is the makeup which I'm not sure if I'll be able to get over...
The word from the early screening a few months ago is that this thing is really good. I'm pretty excited.
I never got around to seeing Brothers Bloom since everyone seems to have hated it, but Jeremy's wrong about that Breaking Bad episode. It was a really good one.
Quote from: RegularKarate on April 13, 2012, 10:34:05 AMbut Jeremy's wrong about that Breaking Bad episode. It was a really good one.
The problem was mostly with the writing, so it's unfair to go on about it in this thread, but I will anyway. I guess I can understand why people liked the episode, but it didn't work for me at all. Mostly because of how it betrays Walter's character just for the sake of drama, exposition, and a little "fun" absurdity. He was
not deranged enough or stupid enough that he would actually do what he does in that episode. It's silly and cartoonish, at the expense of this character who they're crafting so painstakingly. I stand by my opinion:
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on July 26, 2011, 09:47:36 AMI didn't like "Fly" at all. Everything about it was too heavy-handed for me; in fact I don't think it was minimalistic at all. I might have accepted the premise with better dialogue, but the writing was not good. Walter was out of character. I didn't believe his fly-chasing, and that broke the fourth wall because all I could see was what the writers were trying to do. It was boring and unsubtle, which is exactly the opposite of what you want from this show. "Fly" reminded me of the House episode One Day, One Room (http://house.wikia.com/wiki/One_Day,_One_Room). Okay... that one's worse, but it's a very good corollary, in the way that it tries to philosophize through an intensely boring premise, relying on dialogue that turns out to be horrible, all the while bringing its chief protagonist out of character.
Quote from: pete on April 12, 2012, 10:58:05 PM
read the scrip, it was fucked up.
In a good or bad way?
I guess good way. a terrific and scary use of gore.
okay, that's the final pull i needed to be hooked.
peace out Looper thread, see you in October.
Reelviews/James Berardinelli posted his 4 Star review: http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_template.php?identifier=2526 (http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_template.php?identifier=2526)
He doesn't have many 4 Star rated films, so this makes me more amped to see the film (I was already very interested)
Okay I saw this last night.
Looper is enjoyable, but I must say I did figure out the film's entire ending by the 40min mark, however that shouldn't undermine the quality of the story, it's got some real nice time-travel centric nuances.
It's a fun movie and pretty good for what it is. There are some narrative twists that I wasn't expecting, that surprised me and satisfied me at the same time. It's about 8.6 on IMDB right now, it should drop to a 7.7-7.9 mark and it'll be just right.
If I had to explain the film to anyone, I'd say it's Deja Vu meets Minority Report and then some.
There are some cheesy/corny bits, and some specific characters that facilitate that. That's probably my main reservation. But again, it's enjoyable, and ultimately a smart, human popcorn film.
As the resident Rian Johnson fanboy around these parts, I can't wait. I even like the Mountain Goats videos he's done. The GODDAMN MOUNTAIN GOATS. That's how committed a fan I am.
good gun violence, better when in it's in western mode, but not that good. piper perabo nudity is underwhelming, even disturbing.
extremely flat chested.. wasn't expecting that at all.
Very stylish and well directed, but overall disappointing.
I really liked the time travel related elements of it.
SPOILERS
I feel like the rainmaker storyline came out of nowhere and made little sense... until then, all the people with tk abilities seemed useless... perhaps if they had introduced the rainmaker as an adult, even for a second, or showed a little bit more about his control beyond the fact that he killed his wife, that would make more sense. Otherwise its like this suddenly became Terminator.
Sorry guys, I couldn't help myself.
Bret Easton Ellis
(https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2632878307/7f1733b39726c2e286fa8b8eb1540b39_normal.jpeg) Am I completely in the minority having just walked out of Rian Johnson's "Looper" or did people actually like this movie?
Rian Johnson
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haha, what do you think Johnson is implying? Sorry I couldn't make them look like tweets. I'm a dud.
No word from Polka on this yet? that's not good.
I'm sure Johnson is joking, but it's nice to see that someone is making fun of BEE's unfiltered, asinine comments he enjoys making.
So I take it that Ellis is just trying to be the Armond White/Skip Bayless figure of the twitter world now a days.
Thought Looper was a fun film, and I'm not sure why but I surprised be the amount of violence in it. I guess all this time that I didn't realize the film had an R rating.
Just saw it. There was not a disappointing frame in that movie.
Overall it was very enjoyable. I had a couple of guesses throughout on how I though it would end, and I was happy that it wasn't what I had guessed.
The film had a bit more dramatic moments than expected as well, which is always welcome in an action/sci-fi movie.
**SPOILERS**
I liked the sequence with Paul Dano's older-self looper and how they dealt with it. I also thought we'd see the young version of Jeff Daniels' character (Abe), who must obviously be alive somewhere if his future self is (I read on other boards that they thought the Kid Blue character would turn out to be young Abe, glad that didn't happen).
cutie's on Nerdist (http://www.nerdist.com/podcast/nerdist/)
ALL SPOILERS, ALL THE TIME. DO NOT WATCH UNLESS YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVIE.
Needed a spoiler warning, but that was a great watch. Whatever they may think of the movie, nobody can reasonably accuse Johnson of not having thought through his story.
Rian Johnson's In-Theater Commentary Track for Looper. (http://soundcloud.com/rcjohnso/looper-theatrical-commentary)
Interesting idea. A commentary track you listen to in the theater. Of course he says not to listen to it before you see the movie or during the first time you see it.
I have seen it twice. I might need to see it a third time now.
Quote from: RegularKarate on October 05, 2012, 04:44:35 PM
Rian Johnson's In-Theater Commentary Track for Looper. (http://soundcloud.com/rcjohnso/looper-theatrical-commentary)
Interesting idea. A commentary track you listen to in the theater. Of course he says not to listen to it before you see the movie or during the first time you see it.
I have seen it twice. I might need to see it a third time now.
Really interesting idea. I've got to hand it to him, he really seems to care about his fanbase. I'll probably wait till the Bluray to do this though. Thanks for the link RegularKarate
I met him after a Q & A after an early Looper screening. Really, really approachable guy. We were talking about The Master and he couldn't stop raving about it.
Looper was awesome! Solid film.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on April 12, 2012, 11:46:07 PM
Rian Johnson did direct the only bad Breaking Bad episode, but this still looks good.
We need a thread about the best time travel movies.
Alright I just started one: http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=12163.0
I really loved his episode, it was like a play. I assume you're talking about "fly", since he has done another episode in this last season.
I just saw this tonight, I liked it but didn't love it. Paul Dano is horrible, his reaction to the knock at the door made the entire packed theatre laugh, and not in a good way. Still think brothers bloom was a better film but id recommend it to people.
About Paul Dano's yelp, same unanimous reaction by the audience at my screening.
That whole scene was a bit mishandled, from him knocking on the window till the end.
sounds like the worst movie ever made.
i can't stand when people don't react naturally to knocks.
especially in rian johnson movies, which always suck.
Quote from: Pubrick on October 08, 2012, 08:13:00 AM
sounds like the worst movie ever made.
i can't stand when people don't react naturally to knocks.
especially in rian johnson movies, which always suck.
So, what do you think our gang sign should be?
I'm still on the fence about Johnson, having only seen this of his 3 films and
really not getting it on the first go. I witnessed a very carefully crafted and constructed film before my eyes, but didn't see much of myself in it. Another contentless criticism, I suppose, but to really break down this film I have to at least feel like I grasp it, and I don't. Now that I'm obligated to try to understand this hella complex plot for me to even make a fair assessment of the film is what irks me about Johnson. With movies like this, it seems there are people who are in the know and those that aren't, and I'm like Mrs. Parker in Friday- I just don't know. Rian Johnson came out of nowhere for me, hadn't heard of the motherfucker and only seen his Breaking Bad episodes ( it's cool how people either love or hate 'Fly' ) and I don't particularly like ANY of the the three leads in this as actors, what provoked me to see it was all the buzz and *spoiler warnings* surrounding any kind of discussion about it, but it didn't live up to that hype. Nevertheless, I can't stop thinking about 'Looper', I might have to give it that next go.
how is it "hella complex"?
The only thing that's hard to understand is the theory of time travel because it's not possible. Everything you need to know in the movie is very clearly explained.
Quote from: HeywoodRFloyd on October 08, 2012, 03:24:18 AM
About Paul Dano's yelp, same unanimous reaction by the audience at my screening.
That whole scene was a bit mishandled, from him knocking on the window till the end.
totally agree, the entire scene felt like a different movie. almost like it was from a film that was a noir spoof not a noir homage.
In every scene dano was a part of, I pictured him on the set awkwardly hitting on a girl at craft services, then cut to two minutes later he's in front of the camera and Rian says "Ok, remember you're crazy, and... Action!"
that about sums up his entire performance.
Quote from: socketlevel on October 08, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
almost like it was from a film that was a noir spoof not a noir homage.
I'm glad you said this because I thought the exact same thing, it definitely felt like a noir spoof
Looper was my first Rian Johnson film, I watched Brick a couple of days after I watched Looper, I didn't like Brick at all, so essentially I don't really understand the buzz surrounding him pre-Looper release, maybe I might have to watch Brothers Bloom.
Quote from: Reelist on October 08, 2012, 09:31:21 AM
Nevertheless, I can't stop thinking about 'Looper', I might have to give it that next go.
Same here, it's been stuck in my head for the past week, no idea why, I understood the film completely the first go-round.
It's odd to me that Rian Johnson has become such a polarizing filmmaker; all of his movies have seemed to me to be total crowd-pleasers. I guess that says more about my understanding of crowds than anything else.
Quote from: HeywoodRFloyd on October 08, 2012, 06:18:55 PM
I didn't like Brick at all, so essentially I don't really understand the buzz surrounding him pre-Looper release, maybe I might have to watch Brothers Bloom.
Amen. I'm with you on this, few are. Brick was a little too nerdy for me, and i guess i just didn't buy into the gimmick. and really that gimmick is all the film is about and most definitely will polarize people. even assuming i did buy into it, then go one step further and if you remove it, making the dialog contemporary, the movie falls apart. so ya it's kinda shit.
Bloom is his best film, really touched my heart. I'd check it out. In many ways the Brothers Bloom is the film that wes anderson should be making. it's quirky in a similar way but always has one foot in reality.
Quote from: polkablues on October 08, 2012, 07:06:03 PM
It's odd to me that Rian Johnson has become such a polarizing filmmaker; all of his movies have seemed to me to be total crowd-pleasers. I guess that says more about my understanding of crowds than anything else.
Was this in response to our conversation? I give it a solid B, my gripe wasn't enough to ruin the enjoyment. It was a crowd pleaser, just not quite as big as the hype.
"Sometimes your best friend.... turns out to be YOU"
More dumb-as-shit scifi. The whole movie is predicated on future gangsters being in possession of fantastic time traveling devices and utilizing them to send people they murder back to the past to be disposed of. Why is this exactly? Couldn't future gangsters just dispose of their murder victims conventionally, say, by dissolving them in vats of acid, or any other one of a myriad of ways to make them disappear? Using a time machine just seems like extreme overkill. Also, if a future gangster were to happen to be in possession of a time machine, there are probably a million more profitable ways to use such a technology.
Anyway, once you get past past the premise the plot is formulaic, predictable and boring. The positive buzz for this one is puzzling to me. Even the action sequences are dull.
They explained all that literally three or four times in the movie.
I don't understand why you would go see the movie after hating a premise that fervently. I don't know, maybe you have a point, but I just think "More dumb-as-shit scifi" is a clumsily written sentence, and this is coming from someone who's full of those.
would be an interesting group therapy type conversation, if we chatted about how i 10% like this movie, 90% don't like this movie, think it's "master craftsmanship" in ways that i see as dirty and cheap, similar to how sometimes people talk about movies i like, as to say the reasons i don't like it are kinda baby, but i'm being a big baby, because i sure don't overall like this movie
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