Overrated Directors?

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MacGuffin

#75
December 22, 2003, 01:00:22 AM
Quote from: Gamblor du JourHmm, I just got through watching Usual Suspects, I'm sure it's been asked before, but what's wrong with it?

Nothing.
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#76
December 22, 2003, 03:01:25 AM
Quote from: rudieobTHE USUAL SUSPECTS - i call it "the most overrated film of the 90s"!!!
I agree. When people tell me they love Usual Suspects for its original storytelling, I ask the inevitable: "Oh, so have you seen Rashomon?"

"Rasha-whut?"

MacGuffin

#77
December 22, 2003, 03:53:01 AM
Quote from: CinephileWhen people tell me they love Usual Suspects for its original storytelling, I ask the inevitable: "Oh, so have you seen Rashomon?"

"Rasha-whut?"

I don't see the connection. How did "Usual Suspects" have multiple POV's? It was told in flashbacks only by Verbal Kint.
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#78
December 22, 2003, 04:40:13 AM
Thomas Edison -- Electrocuting an Elephant was not that great, and it's very short.

Edwin S. Porter -- Great Train Robbery is overrated.

D.W. Griffith -- think Birth of a Nation is a classic?  Try sitting through it.
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Pubrick

#79
December 22, 2003, 04:44:12 AM
God is so overrated.
under the paving stones.

ElPandaRoyal

#80
December 22, 2003, 05:51:58 AM
Quote from: PGod is so overrated.

Probaby even more than Bryan Singer
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©brad

#81
December 22, 2003, 09:06:52 AM
Quote from: RoyalTenenbaum
Quote from: PGod is so overrated.

Probaby even more than Bryan Singer

usual suspects rocks. i don't understand u ppl sometimes. who said it was cool to hate cool movies? it ain't. and how is brian singer overrated? i bet 8 out of 10 ppl u ask wouldn't even know who he was.

modage

#82
December 22, 2003, 10:30:52 AM
Quote from: ©brad
Quote from: RoyalTenenbaum
Quote from: PGod is so overrated.

Probaby even more than Bryan Singer

usual suspects rocks. i don't understand u ppl sometimes. who said it was cool to hate cool movies? it ain't. and how is brian singer overrated? i bet 8 out of 10 ppl u ask wouldn't even know who he was.

i love US too.  i saw it in like 9th grade and it knocked my socks off.  it helped open the door, like so many others, to my obsessive movie-dom.  just because i hadnt seen rashomon when i was 14 doesnt mean i was an idiot.
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#83
December 22, 2003, 11:22:10 AM
I've yet to hear a good argument as to why the Usual Supsects is bad.

Richard Linklater...I'm only basing this off of Waking Life (the movie I can say I hate as much as I inversely love taffy...and I'm a man who loves his taffy...)
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MacGuffin

#84
December 22, 2003, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Gamblor du JourI've yet to hear a good argument as to why the Usual Supsects is bad.

If you wanna wade through four pages and try to find one:
http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=1134
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#85
December 22, 2003, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinI don't see the connection. How did "Usual Suspects" have multiple POV's? It was told in flashbacks only by Verbal Kint.

Oh, there's a connection between Rashomon and the Usual Suspects alright, and it's not multiple POV's... Maybe you need to see them again?

MacGuffin

#86
December 22, 2003, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: CinephileOh, there's a connection between Rashomon and the Usual Suspects alright, and it's not multiple POV's... Maybe you need to see them again?

:yabbse-huh:

Maybe someone can save me 4 hours and tell me, 'cause I'm thinking about the obvious storytelling device.
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#87
December 22, 2003, 12:30:47 PM
Mac, thanks for the link.

Cinephile, you're right, I forgot about the part with the ghost in Usual Supsects  :lol:
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SoNowThen

#88
December 22, 2003, 12:34:50 PM
Yeah, now I'm intrigued too. IMO, US was a decent flick. Let's put it this way, I enjoyed it more than Rashomon

*hush falls over the crowd*


oh, and I second Linklater. I hated Dazed And Confused, and the parts of Slacker I saw licked balls. However, Tape was pretty good in the sense of directing actors and structuring story, but again, looked fucking terrible (he shot it on video, a handicam or something, I think --- blah!!)
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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#89
December 22, 2003, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Gamblor du JourI've yet to hear a good argument as to why the Usual Supsects is bad.

If you wanna wade through four pages and try to find one:
http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=1134

It's funny, I read every single post, and not one argument seemed good enough to hate the movie as much as some do. Some said the ending was contrived, others said the acting was bad, but you know what? I just don't see it, so I guess this is just one of those things. I'm hearing why people don't like it, but I just can't understand it. Oh well, their loss, at least I get to enjoy it.
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