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Film Discussion => In Front of the Camera => Topic started by: Myxo on July 07, 2003, 07:51:24 PM

Title: Versitility
Post by: Myxo on July 07, 2003, 07:51:24 PM
Ya know, it occured to me that although Jack Nicholson is a great actor, I don't think I've seen him play anything other than "Jack" in very many movies. About Schmidt was surprising to me. As Good As It Gets might be another role where he played a pretty vulnerable character.

I am trying to think of actors who are versitile. In your minds, what living actors break the mold of typecasting for you? Phil Hoffman seems like a guy who could fit into a huge assortment of roles. PTA movies alone definetly show his versitility.

He goes from..

a pathetic loser in Boogie Nights to
a nurse caught in the middle of TJ Mackey and Earl Partridge in Magnolia to
a nasty dickhead mattress salesman in PDL.

Ok. I'm done. So, give me some guys/gals that fit this mold.
Title: Versitility
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on July 07, 2003, 08:59:37 PM
I think most of PTA's actors (who were in more than one of his movies) are very versatile. John C. Reilly can play that dorky, cuddly guy (The Good Girl, Magnolia), but he can also play the serious roles (The Hours, Gangs of New York)... he is extremely versatile. I think that is why he and Hoffman have been consistently working for many years in a lot of great roles. Each one is a director's actor... they can play almost any part.


Nick
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Post by: modage on July 07, 2003, 11:32:34 PM
not to start any shit, but although i believe psh is capable of anything, he is frequently offered (outside of ptas films), very similar roles of losers, nerds, outcasts, etc.  as with buscemi, he will make the parts he can get as interesting as possible, i wouldnt cite either for the pinnacle of versatility.
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Post by: Ernie on July 07, 2003, 11:45:49 PM
John Turturro is, in my humble opinion, the most versatile actor working today.
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Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 08, 2003, 07:00:35 AM
Agreed.  Let's not forget Gary Oldman.  That guy is incredible.
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Post by: Redlum on July 08, 2003, 07:56:38 AM
Johnny Depp.
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Post by: Raikus on July 08, 2003, 11:30:52 AM
Norton
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Post by: SoNowThen on July 08, 2003, 11:35:23 AM
I will strongly second Turturro, Oldman, and Depp.



I think Harvey Keitel is fairly versatile, as is Bob DeNiro.
Title: Versitility
Post by: polkablues on July 08, 2003, 04:27:34 PM
Quote from: SoNowThenas is Bob DeNiro.

Not in the past ten years or so, though.
Title: Versitility
Post by: SoNowThen on July 08, 2003, 04:40:10 PM
Well, he's done some pretty different roles.

Ronin, Meet The Parents, City By The Sea,  Analyze This, Bulwinkle *shudder*...
Title: Versitility
Post by: Myxo on July 08, 2003, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: SoNowThenWell, he's done some pretty different roles.

Ronin, Meet The Parents, City By The Sea,  Analyze This, Bulwinkle *shudder*...

Robin Williams recently too.
Title: Versitility
Post by: jonas on July 10, 2003, 04:05:33 PM
My Favorites:

Brando. From Guys and Dolls to Julius Ceasar. He's done a lot.

Daniel Day-Lewis

Christian Bale

Brad Pitt . He makes great role choices as well. He's usually overlooked because of his popularity, but he's done a great range of roles.

Jeff Bridges

Gary Oldman. The ultimate in versatility.

Guy Pearce

DeNiro's old choices were great. In the last 5 years he's sucked ass though.
Title: Versitility
Post by: Myxo on July 11, 2003, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: jonasMy Favorites:

Brando. From Guys and Dolls to Julius Ceasar. He's done a lot.

Daniel Day-Lewis

Christian Bale

Brad Pitt . He makes great role choices as well. He's usually overlooked because of his popularity, but he's done a great range of roles.

Jeff Bridges

Gary Oldman. The ultimate in versatility.

Guy Pearce

DeNiro's old choices were great. In the last 5 years he's sucked ass though.

Heat was good. What year did Heat come out? Also, Meet the Parents was hilarious.
Title: Versitility
Post by: SoNowThen on July 11, 2003, 11:14:01 AM
JACKIE motherfucking BROWN!!!!

Brilliant. He was absolutely brilliant.
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Post by: jonas on July 11, 2003, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: halo_on

Heat was good. What year did Heat come out? Also, Meet the Parents was hilarious.

Heat was 1995. Meet the Parents was good, that's about the only good choice he's had lately. I hope he gets his head out of his ass and starts picking good roles again.
Title: Versitility
Post by: oakmanc234 on July 12, 2003, 06:51:58 AM
SoNowThen wrote:
JACKIE motherfucking BROWN!!!!

Brilliant. He was absolutely brilliant.

Though I don't think Tarantino wrote a particularly great role for an actor like DeNiro, I liked him as Louis in 'Jackie Brown'. It was weird but amusing seeing him as this stoner/crook who goes loony under pressure.....

"Don't say another word, okay. Keep your mouth shut"
"Yeah bu-"
"I mean it, don't say one fuckin' word, okay"
"Okay Louis"
BANG.....BANG.
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Post by: Fernando on July 14, 2003, 11:47:45 AM
I agree with pretty much everybody in thier choices, don't know about you but Robert Carlyle (http://us.imdb.com/Name?Carlyle,%20Robert) has done very different roles.

Trainspotting - Played a real asshole.
Full Monty - Kind of a nice guy
Angela's Ashes - Alcoholic father and abusive husband
World is not enough - Bond villian
The Beach - One crazy MF

Never saw the Hitler TV movie.
Title: Versitility
Post by: jokerspath on July 14, 2003, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: FernandoI agree with pretty much everybody in thier choices, don't know about you but Robert Carlyle (http://us.imdb.com/Name?Carlyle,%20Robert) has done very different roles.

Trainspotting - Played a real asshole.
Full Monty - Kind of a nice guy
Angela's Ashes - Alcoholic father and abusive husband
World is not enough - Bond villian
The Beach - One crazy MF

Never saw the Hitler TV movie.

I remember seeing the preview for some dramatic looking movie (I just looked it up: Go Now) where he is in love and founds out he is terminally ill and it looked all emotional.  I think it was before Trainspotting, but when I saw the preview it changed my outlook on the guy...

aw
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on December 18, 2003, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: halo_onHeat was good. What year did Heat come out? Also, Meet the Parents was hilarious.

With Heat, (and others like Goodfellas, Goodfellas, and Ronin) I think he more evolved into the modern day Humphrey Bogart. It really wasn't an evolution of his acting abilities at all.

Meet the Parents was De Niro going comedy and more or less brought down to making facial reactions to comedic situations. Nothing really great and Nicholson was even better in that department with As Good As It Gets.

Quote from: SoNowThenJACKIE motherfucking BROWN!!!!

Brilliant. He was absolutely brilliant

He dressed the part well and did what was required of him, but really, what was that role other than him smoking up and mumbling lines? It was a waste of time for De Niro.
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Post by: NEON MERCURY on December 18, 2003, 09:50:59 PM
billy crudup.....unnderated as a motherphucker.......

big fish hopefully will ....rocket him....
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Post by: Vile5 on December 20, 2003, 07:12:33 PM
Sean Penn!
and John Turturro, of course
oh! Gary Oldman too
Susan Sarandon
John Hurt
Holly Hunter
Julianne Moore
Daniel Day Lewis
and more...
Title: Versitility
Post by: pookiethecat on December 20, 2003, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: Vile5Sean Penn!
and John Turturro, of course
oh! Gary Oldman too
Susan Sarandon
John Hurt
Holly Hunter
Julianne Moore
Daniel Day Lewis
and more...

i strongly disagree with julianne moore's versatility.  while she is an outstanding actress, she usually plays the same type of role of a frazzled housewife or jaded maternal figure.  daniel day lewis is a good choice as he has been a native american-bred action hero, a high society gentleman, a rough irish victim of palsy, and a turn of the century new york gang leader/butcher.  

holly hunter is one of the funniest actresses alive but she's also very skilled and compelling in dramatic roles, so i agree with that.  i think her performance in broadcast news is one of my favorite of any actor- male or female- ever.
Title: Versitility
Post by: Vile5 on December 22, 2003, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: pookiethecati strongly disagree with julianne moore's versatility.  while she is an outstanding actress, she usually plays the same type of role of a frazzled housewife or jaded maternal figure
did you watched Boogie Nights or Magnolia?? what about her "sweetly evil" Mrs. Laura Cheveley in An Ideal Husband? :(
Title: Versitility
Post by: pookiethecat on December 23, 2003, 08:13:36 PM
no need to get frowny.  julianne moore is an awesome actress.  no question about it.  but i wouldn't categorize her as the epitome of versatile considering that yes in both boogie nights and magnolia as well as many of her other performances, she plays a maternal/wifey figure on the verge of a breakdown.  versatility is defined as capable of moving freely in all directions or variable or inconstant; changeable or Having varied uses or serving many functions.  no doubt in my mind julianne could do all of the above.  but has she yet?  that said, i haven't seen an ideal husband.
Title: Versitility
Post by: Alethia on December 23, 2003, 08:19:57 PM
well she was kinda different in big lebowski
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Post by: swimmingly on December 28, 2003, 10:13:22 AM
I totally think Julianne is quite versatile.  Although some of her best performances are in the dramatic genre, I find them all to be so specific and filled with nuance making each one quite unique.  

Anyway, I too agree with Phil Hoffman as probably *the* most versatile actor out there.  He can do anything!
Title: Versitility
Post by: pookiethecat on December 28, 2003, 05:07:39 PM
yeah i dunno.  i think this topic was flawed from the beginning because the word versatile can mean a lot of different stuff.  i just meant versatile in terms of choosing a variety of different roles.  but i mean, if you're talking versatile in terms of being a great actress.  then yeah, i agree with what you're saying.
Title: Versitility
Post by: Weird. Oh on December 30, 2003, 01:55:57 AM
I'd have to agree with the assessment of PSH as one of today's most versitile actors. I've seen him in roles ranging from Patch Adams to Owning Mahoney. Tonight, I saw him in Cold Mountain as an eccentric preacher and he was a bright spot in the film as usual. One person I haven't seen listed who I think is pretty versitile is Billy Bob Thorton. He has been in so many films and has been a wide array of characters.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 30, 2003, 02:04:31 AM
the word is versatile.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 30, 2003, 02:26:31 AM
Philip Seymour Hoffman wins.

Boogie Nights, The Big Lebowski, Happiness, Flawless, Magnolia, The Talented Mr Ripley, Almost Famous, PDL, even Red Dragon... they're all completely different roles, and each character is unmistakable.
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Post by: cine on December 30, 2003, 02:32:55 AM
Love Liza MUST be included here. Even Owning Mahowny.
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Post by: soixante on December 30, 2003, 04:41:00 AM
Think how different PSH's perf in Boogie Nights is from Punch Drunk Love.  Scotty is sweet and insecure, the Mattress Man is an overbearing bully.

Another Hoffman, Dustin, is versatile -- from The Graduate to Midnight Cowboy, or from yuppies (Kramer vs. Kramer, All The President's Men) to a sociopath (Straight Time), from austistic (Rain Man) to imperious (Tootsie), from bombastic (Lenny) to timorous (Straw Dogs).
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Post by: cine on December 30, 2003, 09:22:25 AM
Don't forget Ishtar.... :wink: