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The Director's Chair => Stanley Kubrick => Topic started by: Keener on September 10, 2003, 07:33:57 PM

Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Keener on September 10, 2003, 07:33:57 PM
Haven't been here in forever. College and job makes Keener a dull boy or something like that.

Anyway, I recall it being said a third version of the Kubrick box set was due. Any news on that? Any dates? Is it already out? A guy's gotta know!
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Pwaybloe on September 11, 2003, 09:04:45 AM
Oh man.  You just missed them.  You may be able to find them on Ebay, but I doubt it.  

This new box set was only on the market for about a week.  I've got mine, and they rock!
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Keener on September 11, 2003, 11:18:46 AM
What the heck?! Why only a week?
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Keener on September 11, 2003, 11:23:40 AM
...and how can I identify it on eBay as being the newest one?
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Keener on September 11, 2003, 11:26:04 AM
...wait a second...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005ASUK/qid=1063297448/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7903836-3591956?v=glance&s=dvd

Is this not it? Says it comes out September 16th....
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: mutinyco on September 11, 2003, 09:08:51 PM
There's nothing different. Looks like they're just rereleasing it. Another printing.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Keener on September 12, 2003, 07:42:24 AM
Quote from: Fernando
Quote from: life_boy
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetKubrick's a hard believer in just letting the movie speak for itself. That's why he never did audio commentaries or put a lot of extras onto his dvds because he thought that even interviews, or documentaries would be speaking too much for interpretation on the film. It's sad because I would love for his dvds to have so many extra things to it, even like things relating to the history of the film and all that, not interpretational things.

I've heard of a special edition coming out for each movie and all, but I have no hopes of any anytime soon.

That's why I figured there wouldn't be any great special editions coming out, so I asked for the box set for Christmas.  The Kubrick: A Life in Pictures documentary kicks ass!  It's good to have the films because all of them are classics.

I strongly advise you to not buy the collection as a new one is on its way, as a matter of fact I did mention this before but here it goes again.

'You might want to hold your buying of the DVD box set, Jan Harlan recently told in a Q&A that another collection with more extras is on the works. That would make it the third one.'

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=es&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=50eef43c41bb7daf

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=282&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

So confusedy.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: BrainSushi on September 12, 2003, 01:22:59 PM
My ideal Kubrick Box Set... the movies don't come in those shitty/flimsy Warner Brothers DVD cases. Those things are the suck.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: filmcritic on September 12, 2003, 02:59:25 PM
I think the difference is that it's cheaper. In fact, if you buy his DVDs individually, they're cheaper as well.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on September 12, 2003, 04:06:43 PM
Your mom's the same way. *Bodoom pssh*
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Keener on September 13, 2003, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: BrainSushiMy ideal Kubrick Box Set... the movies don't come in those shitty/flimsy Warner Brothers DVD cases. Those things are the suck.

New Line Cinema finally ditched those...Warner Bros. really need to do the same.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Cecil on September 13, 2003, 08:07:42 PM
stanley kubrick is very food indeed

snapper cases are really not very food at all
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: socketlevel on March 30, 2005, 09:42:06 PM
Quote from: Cecilstanley kubrick is very food indeed

snapper cases are really not very food at all

snapper cases rock the house, kinda like digi packs.

-sl-
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Myxo on March 31, 2005, 05:18:54 AM
Why does Paths of Glory always get overlooked in these box sets. I mean, come on already! Give me his "canon" of films in one box set with extras. Do it!

Include:

Eyes Wide Shut (1999)
Full Metal Jacket (1987)
The Shining (1980)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
A Clockwork Orange (1971)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
Lolita (1962)
Spartacus (1960)
Paths of Glory (1957)
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: picolas on March 31, 2005, 04:39:27 PM
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewItem&category=617&item=6381491330&rd=1
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Kal on March 31, 2005, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: picolashttp://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewItem&category=617&item=6381491330&rd=1

I have that collection and bought it on eBay... it was less than 30 bucks with shipping and everything... and its worth every penny... it was over 100 bucks on BestBuy (the US version).
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 23, 2005, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: picolashttp://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewItem&category=617&item=6381491330&rd=1

Do my eyes deceive me or were they really selling it for $9.99!?!
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Gamblour. on April 24, 2005, 01:19:43 AM
It's from China.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: picolas on April 24, 2005, 02:16:26 PM
i got it a week ago. they look fine on tv as long as you adjust the blackness, but on computers the image stinks. also, the special features are gone, chapter stops on paths of glory are messed, eyes wide shut is misspelled on the crappy disc art as "eyes widw shut," there's a warning at the beginning of every disc not to sell this outside of china or watch it on oil rigs, and the eleven discs are in weird slip-sleeves so it takes up the same shelf space as a two-discer. apart from that i'm glad i filled in the my lolita lyndon paths life in pictures gap.

don't sell your duplicates.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Gamblour. on April 24, 2005, 04:41:35 PM
Quote from: picolaswatch it on oil rigs

What? Joke? Also, good review of those discs.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: picolas on April 24, 2005, 05:09:46 PM
thnxcks.

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Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Gamblour. on April 24, 2005, 05:41:44 PM
Well shut my mouth. Good for them for acknowledging the horrible crime that is oil rig exhibitions of copyrighted films.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: Big Owl on April 30, 2005, 07:16:19 AM
Never mind oil rigs -Who watches Stanley kubrick extracts in church any way?cos i'd damn well like to know.
How cool would that be
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: kotte on April 30, 2005, 07:39:01 AM
It says "don't screen on oil-rigs, schools, busses etc etc" on pretty much all my R1 DVDs. Why are you suprised...?
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: picolas on April 30, 2005, 03:29:51 PM
we didn't know about your R1 dvds.
Title: New DVDs???
Post by: kotte on May 01, 2005, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: picolaswe didn't know about your R1 dvds.

hehe, that's funny...
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on January 31, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
Warner's got some great stuff on the way for 2006. Some very exciting titles were revealed last night at their press event at the studio. Warner Home Video's Senior VP for Theatrical Catalog Marketing (George Feltenstein), newly-minted VP for Publicity and Promotion for Theatrical Catalog (Ronnee Sass) and other senior Warner execs were on hand to announce that over 200 new-to-DVD catalog titles will be released by the studio on DVD in the new year.

Warner was quick, and right, to stress that "the death of DVD has been greatly exaggerated." The Warner film vaults contain some 6,600 theatrical film titles... only 1,200 of which have been released on DVD thus far. That leaves over 5,400 titles for the studio to choose from when it comes to catalog DVD releases, so there's PLENTY of great films left to mine in the years ahead.

Look for 4 new Stanley Kubrick SEs including 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), A Clockwork Orange (1971), The Shining (1980) and the original unrated version Eyes Wide Shut (1999). Each will include new documentaries and never-before-seen footage blessed by the Kubrick Estate (although don't look for deleted scenes - Stanley himself never wanted them released).
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: modage on January 31, 2006, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 31, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
Warner was quick, and right, to stress that "the death of DVD has been greatly exaggerated." The Warner film vaults contain some 6,600 theatrical film titles... only 1,200 of which have been released on DVD thus far. That leaves over 5,400 titles for the studio to choose from when it comes to catalog DVD releases, so there's PLENTY of great films left to mine in the years ahead.
translation: "dont stop buying this stuff!  now that we know the end is nigh we want to make sure we get around to releasing all the shit we can dig up so we can make you REbuy it when the changeover happens! ahahaha."

Quote from: MacGuffin on January 31, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
Look for 4 new Stanley Kubrick SEs including 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), A Clockwork Orange (1971), The Shining (1980) and the original unrated version Eyes Wide Shut (1999). Each will include new documentaries and never-before-seen footage blessed by the Kubrick Estate (although don't look for deleted scenes - Stanley himself never wanted them released).
so no box set?  and there wont be a kubrick commentary or deleted scenes, so there had better be some GodDamn good documentaries on these things.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on February 01, 2006, 12:27:28 AM
As long as the transfers are improved, I'll buy these new discs.  16:9 enhancement for the 1.66:1 films is mandatory.  I've been holding out for years for decent editions of Kubrick's films.

I wonder if The Shining and EWS will be widescreen or open matte.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on February 01, 2006, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: Ravi on February 01, 2006, 12:27:28 AM
I wonder if The Shining and EWS will be widescreen or open matte.
i thought them + FMJ were already as good a quality as they can be.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on February 23, 2006, 12:32:39 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on February 01, 2006, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: Ravi on February 01, 2006, 12:27:28 AM
I wonder if The Shining and EWS will be widescreen or open matte.
i thought them + FMJ were already as good a quality as they can be.

Its not about quality, but about aspect ratio.  I hate to open up this debate again, but I remember thinking when I watched the DVDs that they needed to be cropped to at least 1.66:1, if not 1.85:1.  Kubrick of all people would know that he couldn't compose for 1.37:1 without it being cropped.  I don't know about in the 80s, but mainstream theaters in the US have projected 1.85:1, at the narrowest, for a while.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on February 23, 2006, 12:44:04 AM
Quote from: Ravi on February 23, 2006, 12:32:39 AM
Kubrick of all people would know that he couldn't compose for 1.37:1 without it being cropped.
here we go again..

he DID know that. open matte means that on tv you get a large section of worthless image at the top to fill the FULL SCREEN. the extra bit was filmed to be cropped for cinema. this way the home viewer pays the dubious price of having extra image space at the top of their frame. yes i agree open matte often looks huge and in need of cropping, full metal jacket especially, look at all the headroom in many shots.. no one needs that much headroom.

if anything new is going to be offered in future releases, it should be the option to crop them for widescreen tvs as they were seen in cinemas.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: modage on February 23, 2006, 10:04:06 AM
especially as widescreen tvs become more common. 
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: killafilm on February 23, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
Which would be the preferred aspect ratio 1.66(Europe) or 1.85(America)? (at least for Full Metal Jacket)

and if it's to be 'enhanced' for 16X9 would that fall to the Kubrick estate to oversee?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on February 24, 2006, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: killafilm on February 23, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
and if it's to be 'enhanced' for 16X9 would that fall to the Kubrick estate to oversee?

If it is presented in widescreen in the first place.  Warner hasn't presented any 1.66:1 titles enhanced for 16x9 in the past, though they should.  This would involve slight black bars on the sides of the screen.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on May 11, 2006, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: The Digital BitsOne quick note today... we've gotten our hands on Warner's HD-DVD version of Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket. The film IS presented in widescreen (we believe at 1.78:1 aspect ratio, but we'll look more closely and confirm that this weekend). Just FYI.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on June 25, 2006, 02:58:55 PM
i've read some of the fmj hd dvd reviews at various dvd sites and they're not quite positive. unfortunately there are no caps available because there isn't any hd dvd-rom players available, are there? but the reviews are as disappointing as the first kubrick dvd set. but the reviews are positive due to the fact that it is in anamorphic widescreen. but many reviews complain of the grainy quality in the movie. hmm, i smell a double dipping coming soon... :(
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on June 25, 2006, 10:50:01 PM
Quote from: mogwai on June 25, 2006, 02:58:55 PM
many reviews complain of the grainy quality in the movie.

Isn't it supposed to be grainy?  I don't want every film to be digital-noise-reduced to death because some people can't handle some grain.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on June 26, 2006, 01:57:33 AM
i don't remember if the 2nd edition is grainy. but i'm guessing the grain is because the image was cropped to 1.85:1. i'm guessing here. i hope some caps from hd dvd edition surfaces.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on June 26, 2006, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: mogwai on June 26, 2006, 01:57:33 AM
i don't remember if the 2nd edition is grainy. but i'm guessing the grain is because the image was cropped to 1.85:1.

That's possible, though I don't think it would cause a huge jump in grain.  Most, if not all, 1.85:1 films are cropped from 1.37:1.  The culprit is probably the higher resolution of HD.  So expect news anchors to be slathered in make-up (or lenses slathered in Vaseline) in the future.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Reinhold on June 26, 2006, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: Ravi on June 26, 2006, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: mogwai on June 26, 2006, 01:57:33 AM
i don't remember if the 2nd edition is grainy. but i'm guessing the grain is because the image was cropped to 1.85:1.

That's possible, though I don't think it would cause a huge jump in grain.  Most, if not all, 1.85:1 films are cropped from 1.37:1.  The culprit is probably the higher resolution of HD.  So expect news anchors to be slathered in make-up (or lenses slathered in Vaseline) in the future.

what's wrong with grain if it's from the film? kubrick incorporated film grain into his artistic choices. why would you try to get rid of it? i think of HD transfers as an opportunity make the digital image as similar to the film image as possible.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on October 07, 2006, 09:24:37 PM
Any more word on these? Release dates, features, transfers, etc.?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on November 13, 2006, 01:47:44 PM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell on October 07, 2006, 09:24:37 PM
Any more word on these? Release dates, features, transfers, etc.?

From The Digital Bits:

By the way, a lot of you have been asking what's up with Warner's promised Stanley Kubrick special editions - the ones that we talked about back in January when we attended the studio's 2006 catalog DVD event. I've checked in with Warner reps and have learned that they're definitely still on the way. They're being completely remastered and will have all-new special features. They're now planned for release sometime in 2007... but most of you probably already guessed that. Just know that they're still coming and they should be pretty cool. We'll say more when there's more to say.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on November 13, 2006, 02:00:01 PM
...and my bank account will cry in agony.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on November 13, 2006, 02:59:45 PM
and i'll need to take out another loan. :(
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: gob on November 13, 2006, 03:24:03 PM
Mmm. Double-dip goodness.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on November 14, 2006, 06:37:06 AM
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P.S. The most enjoyably Kubrickian film I have seen since Kubrick is "Punch-Drunk Love". I think I'll create a web page for that someday . . .

maybe you should read the first post of the introduction thread (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=2.0) after all, just so you know who you're dealing with here..

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forever and ever and ever . . .
let's not use that word.. it frightens me. the important thing is we have his movies now, and hopefully for a long time to come.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on November 14, 2006, 06:38:21 AM
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For what it's worth, I think this "special features" DVD stuff is so much rubbish. Who needs it? Just give me the films. I remember seeing a Kubrick retrospective at the L.A. County Museum of Art some years back. The guy running the show (someone who had something to do with the Criterion Collection, I think) announced that he had spoken with Kubrick on the telephone to ask him how he (Kubrick) wanted the introductions to the films to run. Kubrick replied, "Just show the films." This is how I feel with the Kubrick DVDs.
True, but it couldn't hurt, long as in the process they also create a great transfer of the movies themselves. Special features can help to understand the picture's placement in time and space, so to say.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on November 14, 2006, 06:56:26 AM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell on November 14, 2006, 06:38:21 AM
Special features can help to understand the picture's placement in time and space, so to say.
i know what you mean, but i don't think you said what you meant.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: hedwig on November 19, 2006, 11:16:24 PM
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Watching a Kubrick film is like putting a floppy disk into the computer
obsolete? :(
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: socketlevel on November 28, 2006, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: Hedwig on November 19, 2006, 11:16:24 PM
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Watching a Kubrick film is like putting a floppy disk into the computer
obsolete? :(

i like putting floppy disks in the computer
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on February 28, 2007, 10:47:48 PM
The following is from an on-line chat with executives from Warner Home Video, held on Monday, February 26th on The Home Theater Forum:


[Adam_Santangelo] Thanks for my Ultimate Superman set. It was a big part of my life in Q4 2006. Can you give us the full scoop on the upcoming Kubrick SEs (titles, extras)? I'm specifically curious about thoughts on 16:9/5.1 vs. Kubrick's 4:3/mono preference. I think we're all hoping for the full range of viewing options, or at least official word on what Mr. Kubrick wanted us to see on home video... Thanks

[WARNER] We're glad you enjoyed the Superman set. We're not ready to reveal details on this year's Kubrick promotion as they are still somewhat formulating, but a promotion will definitely be in stores before Xmas.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Xx on March 01, 2007, 02:25:35 AM
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Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Julius Orange on March 01, 2007, 04:49:11 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecial on March 01, 2007, 02:25:35 AM
i just spew(ed?).

it was a spew of happiness.

Sometimes I'm glad I can never be happy again. (because of the smiling accident June '02)

Thanks
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 02, 2007, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 28, 2007, 10:47:48 PM
We're not ready to reveal details on this year's Kubrick promotion as they are still somewhat formulating, but a promotion will definitely be in stores before Xmas.

Bullshit.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on May 17, 2007, 04:48:46 PM
Some HD-DVD copies of The Ultimate Matrix Collection (due in stores next Tuesday) will come packaged with a pamphlet promoting the forthcoming high-def release (in both formats) of Blade Runner and a number of Stanley Kubrick films including 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket and the unrated Eyes Wide Shut. All are expected before the end of the year.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on May 18, 2007, 02:08:02 AM
welcome to non-US 1999. except for the hi-def of course. and i hope they're not snubbing barryndon.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Xx on June 03, 2007, 09:31:47 PM
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Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on July 25, 2007, 04:43:31 PM
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65399

Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick Collection (R1) in October

Warner Home Video have announced the Region 1 DVD release of Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick Collection on 23rd October 2007. In the works for some time now, the films of Stanley Kubrick have been restored and remastered for this new collection which is expected to feature a large number of both archive and new bonus features. A full press release is yet to be issued, but we do have some preliminary information, prices and even some artwork for you...

Warner have revealed the following titles due on 23rd October...

2001: A Space Odyssey (2-Disc Special Edition) - $26.99 SRP
A Clockwork Orange (2-Disc Special Edition) - $26.99 SRP
Eyes Wide Shut (2-Disc Special Edition) - $26.99 SRP
The Shining (2-Disc Special Edition) - $20.97 SRP
Barry Lyndon - $19.97 SRP
Lolita - $19.97 SRP
Stanley Kubrick: A Life in Pictures (Kubrick Collection 2001 Release) - $19.97 SRP

Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Edition) is also listed but currently only for Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD, though it is listed as part of the complete Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick Collection which is priced at $79.92 SRP but only includes the Special Edition titles and the A Life in Pictures documentary disc (no Lolita or Barry Lyndon).

Initial specs on the Special Edition titles suggest Widescreen transfers and 5.1 Surround audio only. Please note however full specs and release plans are yet to be confirmed, but are likely to surface soon.

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Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Fernando on July 25, 2007, 08:06:40 PM
YES!!!  :onfire:

I wonder which features EWS will have, that is the one I'm more excited about, The Shining too.

WTF is with the artwork of ACO not having the 'A'?  :nono:
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: A Matter Of Chance on July 25, 2007, 08:21:14 PM
I'm glad about Barry LYndon!
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: picolas on July 25, 2007, 08:27:41 PM
Quote from: Fernando on July 25, 2007, 08:06:40 PM
WTF is with the artwork of ACO not having the 'A'?  :nono:
on the last release there's no 'A' on the side either. whoever is responsible for the cases doesn't see the A in the poster. or just doesn't know the title.

i'm really excited about the ultra slim possibility of deleted scenes.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: A Matter Of Chance on July 25, 2007, 08:39:25 PM
Quote from: picolas on July 25, 2007, 08:27:41 PM
Quote from: Fernando on July 25, 2007, 08:06:40 PM
WTF is with the artwork of ACO not having the 'A'?  :nono:
on the last release there's no 'A' on the side either. whoever is responsible for the cases doesn't see the A in the poster. or just doesn't know the title.

i'm really excited about the ultra slim possibility of deleted scenes.

I think he's supposed to be inside the 'A'?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: picolas on July 25, 2007, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: A Matter Of Chance on July 25, 2007, 08:39:25 PM
Quote from: picolas on July 25, 2007, 08:27:41 PM
Quote from: Fernando on July 25, 2007, 08:06:40 PM
WTF is with the artwork of ACO not having the 'A'?  :nono:
on the last release there's no 'A' on the side either. whoever is responsible for the cases doesn't see the A in the poster. or just doesn't know the title.

i'm really excited about the ultra slim possibility of deleted scenes.

I think he's supposed to be inside the 'A'?
yes. but on the side it's just "Clockwork Orange". and the A is pretty oddly placed on the front too. enough to make you think they don't see it.

ps. I love the new/old mischevious SHiNiNG font and wish they hadn't changed 2001.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gold Trumpet on July 25, 2007, 10:25:36 PM
Here's a funny story. Yesterday I sold my nice OOP Kubrick box set for $90. I was very happy considering I knew this was coming, but the person I sold it to was a woman who was buying it for her son who had to sell his years ago to make rent. She said he was devastated it went OOP afterwords so the family has been going nuts to find him a new copy. My box set was suppose to be a nice present for him this Christmas.

Of course I couldn't bear this story. I just sent her a message telling her about the new edition coming and to send the box set back to me and I'd refund her completely.

And you know what sucks worst? Two days ago my car broke down and the tow and repairs are coming to $500 total. With the sale of my Kubrick set I was $100 short and figured I could get a loan from a friend. Now I'm going to be closer to $200 short. That will be a lot harder to find.

Fuck.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on July 25, 2007, 10:29:01 PM
...So what do you say Xixax, can we set up a fund-raiser to help our friend GT?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gold Trumpet on July 25, 2007, 10:39:16 PM
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...So what do you say Xixax, can we set up a fund-raiser to help our friend GT?

Haha, thanks, but I wouldn't if I was XIXAX. I haven't donated a dime to this site.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on August 03, 2007, 02:13:33 AM
Burbank, Calif. August 6, 2007 – On October 23, Warner Home Video will launch the first in their new series featuring influential films from some of history's greatest directors. Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick is a new six-film, 10-disc widescreen and newly-remastered collection that includes Special Editions of 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket Deluxe Edition, along with the full-length documentary, A Life in Pictures.

2001: A Space Odyssey has been newly remastered; A Clockwork Orange, Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket, also remastered, debut in their original widescreen theatrical aspect ratios. All releases have been created in collaboration with, and approved by, the estate of Stanley Kubrick. The collection sells for $79.92 SRP on DVD. Single discs will be available at various prices (see below for details). The films are also available on HD and BD as singles ($28.99 SRP).

The films in the Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick also represented landmarks for such stars as Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Jack Nicholson, Malcolm McDowell, Vincent D'Onofrio, Matthew Modine and others. Enhanced with hours of insightful and in-depth special features these Special Editions include commentaries, documentaries, rare interviews with Stanley Kubrick and special new featurettes that offer a rare look into the mind of the master filmmaker. The 10 Disc set also includes the bonus documentary A Life in Pictures, narrated by Tom Cruise, which details Kubrick's early life, at work and at home, with candid commentary from collaborators, colleagues and family.

The Eyes Wide Shut Special Edition includes both the Rated and Unrated versions, along with the all-new featurette "Lost Kubrick: The Films That Never Were." Separate from this Collection, other Kubrick titles available from WHV include Barry Lyndon and Lolita.

About the Films

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

Stanley Kubrick's dazzling, Academy AwardÒ-winning achievement (Special Visual Effects) is an allegorical puzzle on the evolution of man and a compelling drama of man vs. machine. Featuring a stunning meld of music and motion, the film was also Oscar® nominated for Best Director and Best Screenplay. Kubrick (who co-wrote the screenplay with Arthur C. Clarke) first visits the prehistoric age-ancestry past, then leaps millennia (via one of the most mind-blowing jump cuts ever) into colonized space, and ultimately whisks astronaut Bowman (Keir Dullea) into uncharted space, perhaps even into immortality.

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Commentary by Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood

· Theatrical trailer

Disc Two

· Channel 4 documentary: 2001: The Making of a Myth

· Standing on the Shoulders of Kubrick: The Legacy of 2001

· Vision of a Future Passed: The Prophecy of 2001

· 2001: A Space Odyssey - A Look Behind the Future

· 2001: FX and Early Conceptual Artwork

· Look: Stanley Kubrick!

· Audio-only interview with Stanley Kubrick

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

A Clockwork Orange (1971)

Stomping, whopping, stealing, singing, tap-dancing, violating. Derby-topped hooligan Alex (Malcolm McDowell) has a good time – at the tragic expense of others. His journey from amoral punk to brainwashed proper citizen and back again forms the dynamic arc of Kubrick's future-shock vision of Anthony Burgess' novel. Controversial when first released, the film garnered three Academy Award nominations – Best Picture, Best Director and Best Screenplay. Its power still entices, shocks and mesmerizes today.

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Commentary by Malcolm McDowell and historian Nick Redman

· Theatrical trailer

Disc Two

· Channel 4 documentary: Still Tickin': The Return of Clockwork Orange

· New featurette: Great Bolshy Yarblockos! Making A Clockwork Orange

· Career profile: O Lucky Malcolm!

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Eyes Wide Shut (1999)

Kubrick's daring and controversial last film is a bracing psychosexual journey through a haunting dreamscape, a riveting suspense tale and a career milestone for stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Cruise plays a doctor who plunges into an erotic foray that threatens his marriage – and may ensnare him in a murder mystery – after his wife's (Kidman) admission of sexual longings. As the story sweeps from doubt and fear to self-discovery and reconciliation, Kubrick orchestrates it with masterful flourishes. His graceful tracking shots, rich colors and startling images are some of the bravura traits that show Kubrick as a filmmaker for the ages.

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Scene specific commentary by Sydney Pollack and historian Peter Loewenberg

· Theatrical trailer and TV spots

Disc Two

· Channel 4 documentary: The Last Movie: Stanley Kubrick and Eyes Wide Shut

· Lost Kubrick: The Unfinished Films of Stanley Kubrick

· Kubrick's 1998 DGA D.W Griffith Award acceptance speech

· Interview gallery featuring Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, and Steven Spielberg

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Full Metal Jacket (1987)

A superb ensemble falls in for Stanley Kubrick's brilliant saga about the Vietnam War and the dehumanizing process that turns people into trained killers. The scathing indictment of a film was nominated for an Academy Award® for Best Screenplay. Joker (Matthew Modine), Animal Mother (Adam Baldwin), Gomer (Vincent D'Onofrio), Eightball (Dorian Harewood) and Cowboy (Arliss Howard) are some of the Marine recruits experiencing boot-camp hell under the punishing command of the foul-mouthed Sergeant Hartman (R. Lee Ermy). The action is savage, the story unsparing, and the dialogue is spiked with scathing humor.

DVD Special Features:

· Commentary by Adam Baldwin, Vincent D'Onofrio, R. Lee Ermey and Jay Cocks

· New Featurette: Full Metal Jacket: Between Good and Evil

· Theatrical trailer

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

The Shining (1980)

From a script he co-adapted from the Stephen King novel, Kubrick melds vivid performances, menacing settings, dreamlike tracking shots and shock after shock into a milestone of the macabre. The Shining is the director's epic tale of a man in a snowbound hotel descending into murderous delusions. In a signature role, Jack Nicholson ("Heeeere's Johnny!") stars as Jack Torrance, who's come to the elegant, isolated Overlook Hotel as off-season caretaker with his wife (Shelley Duvall) and son (Danny Lloyd).

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Commentary by Garrett Brown and John Baxter

· Theatrical trailer

Disc Two

· Documentary The Making of the Shining, with optional commentary by Vivian Kubrick

· Three new featurettes: View from The Overlook: Crafting the Shining, The Visions of Stanley Kubrick, and Wendy Carlos, Composer

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Stanley Kubrick – A Life in Pictures

Produced and directed by longtime Kubrick associate Jan Harlan, this full-length documentary includes footage and personal photographs made available by Christiane Kubrick, the director's wife of more than 42 years. The film paints a surprisingly accessible portrait of Kubrick, giving a strikingly different view of the man and what influenced him as a filmmaker. Among the long list of actors, friends and colleagues paying tribute are Woody Allen, Sir Arthur C. Clarke, Shelley Duvall, Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Christiane Kubrick, Paul Mazursky, Malcolm McDowell, Matthew Modine, Jack Nicholson, Alan Parker, Sydney Pollack, Richard Schickel, Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg, Douglas Trumbull and Sir Peter Ustinov.

Barry Lyndon (1975)

Redmond Barry is a young, roguish Irishman who's determined, in any way, to make a life for himself as a wealthy nobleman. Enlisting in the British Army, fighting in the Seven Years War in Europe, Barry deserts from the British army, joins the Prussian army, gets promoted to the rank of a spy, then becomes pupil to a Chevalier and con artist/gambler. Barry then lies, dupes, duels and seduces his way up the social ladder and enters into a lustful but loveless marriage to a wealthy countess named Lady Lyndon, takes the name of Barry Lyndon, settles in England with wealth and power beyond his wildest dreams, then slowly falls

Lolita (1962)

Humbert Humbert, a divorced British professor of French literature, travels to small-town America for a teaching position. He allows himself to be swept into a relationship with Charlotte Haze, his widowed and sexually famished landlady, whom he marries in order that he might pursue the woman's 14-year-old flirtatious daughter, Lolita, with whom he has fallen hopelessly in love, but whose affections shall be thwarted by a devious trickster named Clare Quilty.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: hedwig on August 03, 2007, 02:41:55 AM
most excited for the EWS and 2001 discs. they should've had Slavoj Zizek do a commentary track on EWS :!:

it'll be nice to have the DGA speech. it is a thing of beauty. (http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/kubrick-dga.html)
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on August 03, 2007, 09:56:11 AM
yes, time to sell the old set.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on August 03, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
Why is there no love for Barry Lyndon and Lolita, Warner Bros?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gold Trumpet on August 03, 2007, 05:23:07 PM
In a follow up to my Ebay problem, the woman contacted me and said she didn't want a refund after all. Good thing. I spent her money on my car repairs.

I'm interested in only a few extras on the next box set. A documentary about Kubrick's unfished films should be good, but the commentaries don't seem promising. Old actors tend to tell backstories about the filmmaking than anything else. Too bad I've heard most of those stories.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on August 03, 2007, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on August 03, 2007, 05:23:07 PMToo bad I've heard most of those stories.

my condolences.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on August 04, 2007, 03:49:12 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
Why is there no love for Barry Lyndon and Lolita, Warner Bros?

exactly.
Strangelove has had special editions out the butt lately, and Sparticus is taken care of, but i don't see why they can't hold on to the rest for the time being and make a second box set and then a small release for the early, lesser desired stuff.

Killer's Kiss/The Killing/Paths/Lolita/Barry would make a great set in my opinion as well.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: SiliasRuby on August 04, 2007, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas on August 04, 2007, 03:49:12 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
Why is there no love for Barry Lyndon and Lolita, Warner Bros?

exactly.
Strangelove has had special editions out the butt lately, and Sparticus is taken care of, but i don't see why they can't hold on to the rest for the time being and make a second box set and then a small release for the early, lesser desired stuff.

Killer's Kiss/The Killing/Paths/Lolita/Barry would make a great set in my opinion as well.
From dvdaficionado.com I saw that there is going to be a deluxed DVD of Barry Lyndon and Lolita released on the same day as the others (10/23) but I don't know the details....
here are the links that go to the preorders of BL and lolita...http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UJ48VI/dvdaficionado
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UJ48SQ/dvdaficionado
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on August 04, 2007, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on August 04, 2007, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas on August 04, 2007, 03:49:12 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
Why is there no love for Barry Lyndon and Lolita, Warner Bros?

exactly.
Strangelove has had special editions out the butt lately, and Sparticus is taken care of, but i don't see why they can't hold on to the rest for the time being and make a second box set and then a small release for the early, lesser desired stuff.

Killer's Kiss/The Killing/Paths/Lolita/Barry would make a great set in my opinion as well.
From dvdaficionado.com I saw that there is going to be a deluxed DVD of Barry Lyndon and Lolita released on the same day as the others (10/23) but I don't know the details....
here are the links that go to the preorders of BL and lolita...http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UJ48VI/dvdaficionado
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UJ48SQ/dvdaficionado

where do you get the 'deluxe' distinction?
the press release said they were releasing dvd's of both on the same day, but with no extras or anything.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: SiliasRuby on August 04, 2007, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: bigideas on August 04, 2007, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on August 04, 2007, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas on August 04, 2007, 03:49:12 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
Why is there no love for Barry Lyndon and Lolita, Warner Bros?

exactly.
Strangelove has had special editions out the butt lately, and Sparticus is taken care of, but i don't see why they can't hold on to the rest for the time being and make a second box set and then a small release for the early, lesser desired stuff.

Killer's Kiss/The Killing/Paths/Lolita/Barry would make a great set in my opinion as well.
From dvdaficionado.com I saw that there is going to be a deluxed DVD of Barry Lyndon and Lolita released on the same day as the others (10/23) but I don't know the details....
here are the links that go to the preorders of BL and lolita...http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UJ48VI/dvdaficionado
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UJ48SQ/dvdaficionado

where do you get the 'deluxe' distinction?
the press release said they were releasing dvd's of both on the same day, but with no extras or anything.
I saw it on DVDaficionado....I don't know it could be bullshit...I'll look more into it and call some people I know.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on August 14, 2007, 09:30:30 PM
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Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: SiliasRuby on August 15, 2007, 07:33:11 AM
I got some new info and apparently the shining two disc is going to have the 119 minute cut of the film and not the longer version. I don't know if that's good or bad.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on August 15, 2007, 08:47:29 AM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on August 15, 2007, 07:33:11 AM
I got some new info and apparently the shining two disc is going to have the 119 minute cut of the film and not the longer version. I don't know if that's good or bad.

well that's the international cut of the film, which makes sense as that's probably where they'll make most their money. also it goes with the international cut of EWS.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on August 15, 2007, 11:11:33 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on August 15, 2007, 08:47:29 AM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on August 15, 2007, 07:33:11 AM
I got some new info and apparently the shining two disc is going to have the 119 minute cut of the film and not the longer version. I don't know if that's good or bad.

well that's the international cut of the film, which makes sense as that's probably where they'll make most their money. also it goes with the international cut of EWS.

is the international the most circulated one?
(if memory serves correctly, there was a version with a scene with danny after jack freezes?)
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pozer on August 15, 2007, 04:21:08 PM
i had a dream i ordered this set but when it arrived, it was the archive book instead.  my 2nd book with 2nd film strip.  this time i got the cut to kubrick credit one and was so exited.  someone (a weird acquaintance) traded me the 2nd book for the DVDs and when i went to watch them, i realized they were an old DVD 5 pack i got with my old DVD player.  fools rosh in and Get Shoty are all i recall.  but the worst part was, i left the strip in the book.  when i went to try and get it back, the acquaintance was now my brother who said he traded me that for my star wars figurines for his kids, didn't know anything about kubrick book. fiiivve dollaauurs? gettouttaheerre,...//
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Fernando on August 15, 2007, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: bigideas on August 15, 2007, 11:11:33 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on August 15, 2007, 08:47:29 AM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on August 15, 2007, 07:33:11 AM
I got some new info and apparently the shining two disc is going to have the 119 minute cut of the film and not the longer version. I don't know if that's good or bad.

well that's the international cut of the film, which makes sense as that's probably where they'll make most their money. also it goes with the international cut of EWS.
is the international the most circulated one?

I don't know about that but it is by far the best version.

Quote from: bigideas on August 15, 2007, 11:11:33 AM
(if memory serves correctly, there was a version with a scene with danny after jack freezes?)

I remember reading about some ppl claiming to having seen that scene when it was first released in NYC, then by next week it was cut from the film; Shelley Duvall has said that she regreted SK cut it because it kind of tied in the meaning of the tennis ball, the scene was in a hospital and Stuar Ullman showed there and after a chit chat with Wendy he gave the tennis ball to Danny, then it cut to the famous 1921 framed picture.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on August 15, 2007, 07:47:59 PM
i just looked at my 'restored and remastered' dvd and the length is 142 mins.
that's some serious editing there.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on August 15, 2007, 09:14:06 PM
http://imdb.com/title/tt0081505/alternateversions
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: bonanzataz on August 15, 2007, 11:51:28 PM
yeah, as far as i can recall, this is the one i watched as a kid, only i distinctly remember the scene with danny and the child psychologist, which imdb says isn't in that cut. when the dvd came out and all these new scenes started popping up, i was all, wtf, this shit isn't in the movie. now i don't know if i can enjoy the movie as much without it.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: cowboykurtis on August 19, 2007, 02:02:36 PM
The New Box Set claims to have a never-before-seen featurette for Full Metal Jacket. Does anyone know if this is the long-anticipated, never-before-seen footage that vivian kubrick shot on set? Some of this footage can be seen in the Jan Harlan doc. I believe she shot it for an intended BBC special, as she did for The Shining. If that doc is on the disc, its worth the purchase alone.

anyone have any info on this?....
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on August 19, 2007, 05:22:04 PM
YOU'RE ALIVE!

Quote from: Pubrick on August 15, 2007, 12:42:43 AM
to replace bergman..

Stina Nordenstam cowboykurtis: STILL ALIVE
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: cowboykurtis on August 19, 2007, 08:52:02 PM
just barely
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on September 03, 2007, 09:32:36 PM
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Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on September 03, 2007, 11:47:39 PM
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Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on October 17, 2007, 02:28:45 PM
dvdbeaver's dvd review of the 134th special edition of "the shining" (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/shining.htm)
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 17, 2007, 04:24:09 PM
has anyone else noticed the 2007 edition of FMJ that still has the white background cover?
it stood out because it doesn't have the snap cover or flap cover, whatever you call those.
i had never seen a FMJ dvd without that type of case.
very odd that they'd come out with this right before the new one with the photo up above this post.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Redlum on October 18, 2007, 12:23:26 PM
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Does this make a statement about Bluray? All the other covers remain the same as HD/SD where as the one that might appeal to 'charlie blastin' PS3 gamers gets a less subtle re-working.

I'm sorry to taint a Kubrick thread with the ridiculous format war, it's just that 2001 in HD is extremely tantalising. Unlike the thought of buying these Special Editions twice.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on October 18, 2007, 12:27:12 PM
2001 (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReview/2001.htm) (the new one is the best)
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 18, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: mogwai on October 17, 2007, 02:28:45 PM
dvdbeaver's dvd review of the 134th special edition of "the shining" (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/shining.htm)

widescreen.......arrgh.........does this keep anyone from buying solely for this reason?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on October 18, 2007, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 18, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: mogwai on October 17, 2007, 02:28:45 PM
dvdbeaver's dvd review of the 134th special edition of "the shining" (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/shining.htm)

widescreen.......arrgh.........does this keep anyone from buying solely for this reason?

no. we've known they were gonna be widescreen for quite a while now. the image that has been lost is not important, and there is some extra stuff on the sides to compensate. it'd be nice if they included both full and wide, but let's not retread the same old aspect ratio discussion, please, for the love of HD, anything but that.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 18, 2007, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on October 18, 2007, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 18, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: mogwai on October 17, 2007, 02:28:45 PM
dvdbeaver's dvd review of the 134th special edition of "the shining" (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/shining.htm)

widescreen.......arrgh.........does this keep anyone from buying solely for this reason?

no. we've known they were gonna be widescreen for quite a while now. the image that has been lost is not important, and there is some extra stuff on the sides to compensate. it'd be nice if they included both full and wide, but let's not retread the same old aspect ratio discussion, please, for the love of HD, anything but that.

you are legion now (the use of 'we')?

yes, i remember talking about it previously.
the question was - is anyone not buying because of it?


although i'm sure someone will point to something else, i've never seen IMDB do this for a boxset:

http://imdb.com/special/kubrickcollection/
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 19, 2007, 01:29:10 PM
I think Shining should be presented in widescreen.  I doubt any theater in the US at the time of its release would have been able to project 1.37:1, so they would have projected at 1.85:1 anyways.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on October 20, 2007, 02:54:35 AM
eyes wide shut (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare8/eyes-wide-shut.htm) i have to admit, ews in widescreen looks so much better than the matted 4:3 format.

a clockwork orange (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews16/clockwork_orange_dvd_review.htm)
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: picolas on October 20, 2007, 03:04:01 AM
at first i was going to buy them even though it would be the third time for some, but now i'm thinking i'll have to buy them again when i get an hd player.. but that's at least a year from now. i'm torn.. want to see the docs and no place will rent them. counsel me, xixax.

ps. everyone check the ews review if only for the insane international poster i've never seen anywhere else.

edit: no commentary??? so the sidney pollack one never existed? GARH
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Xx on October 20, 2007, 03:07:24 AM
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Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 20, 2007, 03:26:22 AM
I passed on the previous releases of these films because of the transfers, so I'm buying this new set.  When you're ready you could sell the SD set and put that money towards the HD versions.  Its up to you.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on October 20, 2007, 05:27:13 AM
Quote from: bigideas on October 18, 2007, 05:35:38 PM
you are legion now (the use of 'we')?

it's a fairly simple usage of we in the sense of everyone who reads this thread. we, the interested party. we, the nonspecific unbounded collective.

sheesh.

Quote from: Ravi on October 19, 2007, 01:29:10 PM
I think Shining should be presented in widescreen.  I doubt any theater in the US at the time of its release would have been able to project 1.37:1, so they would have projected at 1.85:1 anyways.

come on.. the full screen versions were only ever used for the home video market. the extra image that we see in full screen ratio is completely USELESS. they look beautiful in widescreen because that's where kubrick kept all the essential visual information. it's more precise. it focuses your attention on exactly what is necessary for each scene, instead of constantly thinking "what the fuck is up with the headroom, is tom/jack/joker/pyle about to have a bright idea soon??"

double sheesh.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: JG on October 20, 2007, 09:31:14 AM
i think eyes wide shut might be the only i double dip on at this point, and thats cos i think my friend lost the disc (not the case, stroszek is sitting in the case - i think he lost the stroszek case too though).  the special features look good though.

but i've never double dipped (this is the term right?) before, i have the shitty bare bones versions of most of my favorite movies. 
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: modage on October 20, 2007, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: mogwai on October 20, 2007, 02:54:35 AM
eyes wide shut (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare8/eyes-wide-shut.htm) i have to admit, ews in widescreen looks so much better than the matted 4:3 format.
YES.  i love that it brings you uncomfortably closer to the action.

Quote from: picolas on October 20, 2007, 03:04:01 AM
i'm torn..
amazon has the set for $55.  5 films PLUS the doc for 11 bucks a piece?  definitely worth a double triple quadruple dip.  it IS kubrick.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 21, 2007, 12:54:44 AM
as long as the top of people's heads are not being cut off.

i was interested in the new editions of Disney classics Robin Hood and Jungle Book, but then i've read that they've made them widescreen and at times the characters will be cut out of the top of the frame.

that 4:3 of Danny riding through the halls - just like with Elephant with it's obvious Kubrick influence - there's something about a hallway that is more symetrical with 4:3 - hallways being square.

i say this having not seen it in widescreen.

here's what someone wrote on Amazon:

The Shining, Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut were 1:85 aspect ratio when released theatrically. That is, the top and bottom of the square Academy frame was masked off in projection. For home video, Kubrick disliked black bars at the top and bottom of the image (letterboxing that would conform the TV aspect ratio to the theatrical aspect ratio) so he insisted that they be released Academy (square) ratio. This decision was made by him in the early '90s before DVDs and 16x9 HD TVs, so Kubrick was thinking about VHS and laserdiscs. The masters for the first Kubrick box set were masters created for laserdisc and VHS, not DVD. Now, with 16x9 TVs more common, 16x9 enhanced DVDs in the original theatrical aspect rato make sense. In other words, the pictures were COMPOSED for widescreen for the theatrical release. The square Academy frame is the anomaly. The movies were NEVER released theatrically with a square frame. (I've read that Kubrick somehow composed for both aspect ratios when he shot the movies.)

here's a little cheaper than Amazon:

$53.95 (after the 10% taken once put you put it in your cart)

http://whv.warnerbros.com/WHVPORTAL/Portal/browsesearchtitles.jsp?offerOID=30559&S=KUBIMDB&functionmode=6
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on October 21, 2007, 02:13:43 AM
Quote from: bigideas on October 21, 2007, 12:54:44 AM
as long as the top of people's heads are not being cut off.

listen. if you look at the dvdbeaver pics of EWS you will see that there is a slight cropping on the top of some ppl's heads. but you know what? that's actually how you frame someone in close up when you have a wide frame. it's NORMAL for bits of ppl's heads to be cropped slightly, what's happening on the very top of someone's head is NOT generally important, unless its milich discussing his baldness or the FMJ helmets. if you read what you quoted you will see this dude really knows what he's talking about. this bit in particular is very easy to follow and repeats exactly what i've already said in this very same page:

Quote from: bigideas on October 21, 2007, 12:54:44 AM
In other words, the pictures were COMPOSED for widescreen for the theatrical release. The square Academy frame is the anomaly. The movies were NEVER released theatrically with a square frame. (I've read that Kubrick somehow composed for both aspect ratios when he shot the movies.)

NOTHING in that amazon quote was new information. can you honestly tell me that when you look at full metal jacket you can't see the HUGE headroom in all the shots? and not just in the headroom, you'll get bits taken from the bottom as well in some shots. that's because the balance of an image is not the same in full screen as it is in wide. maybe you always leave a hundred metres of headroom when you take ppl's pictures. but that's actually an UGLY compromise that kubrick did cos he didn't forsee the widespread availability of widescreen.

judging from this ongoing aspect ratio discussion, the widespread availability has led to neverending widespread confusion. it's a damn shame, cos ppl don't seem to realise Kubrick made it work BOTH WAYS. there is nothing wrong with the widescreen frame. he made it easier for ppl to actually not think at all about the aspect ratio and yet it's still impossible to put to rest. i think partly because in every other case of a full/wide transfer there is an obvious loser side that is all but unwatchable. that isn't the case here.

this isn't something ppl are making up like R Lee Ermey talking shit about EWS, this is a technically sound observation to say that the films work both in full screen and in wide. that was the genius of kubrick. there is not one shot i've seen that doesn't look better wide.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 21, 2007, 07:35:06 AM
Family Video (http://www.familyvideo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=277820) has it for $45.97.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 21, 2007, 04:10:22 PM
i'm really just trying to talk myself into buying it.........and i think i shall.

10 discs of Kubrick at $5 and change or less or less a piece is a good bargain.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: edison on October 21, 2007, 07:35:06 AM
Family Video (http://www.familyvideo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=277820) has it for $45.97.

Use coupon code NEWMEM5F for $5 off.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 22, 2007, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: edison on October 21, 2007, 07:35:06 AM
Family Video (http://www.familyvideo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=277820) has it for $45.97.

Use coupon code NEWMEM5F for $5 off.

very good!
any idea if this is a preorder discount only - meaning the price goes up tomorrow?
they've also got Barry and Lolita for 12.55 a piece.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pozer on October 22, 2007, 11:46:04 AM
i just ordered it.  comes out to 41 bucks in the end with coupon code.  do it.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 12:05:37 PM
Are Barry Lyndon and Lolita even remastered?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 12:47:43 PM
Quote from: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: edison on October 21, 2007, 07:35:06 AM
Family Video (http://www.familyvideo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=277820) has it for $45.97.

Use coupon code NEWMEM5F for $5 off.

Where were you yesterday with this?

:brickwall:
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: JG on October 22, 2007, 01:18:21 PM
ah, you guys are aware you're buying a clockwork orange twice right? 
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 12:47:43 PM
Where were you yesterday with this?

:brickwall:

I was at home, having ordered the set without knowledge of the code.  I found the code this morning.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 22, 2007, 03:15:03 PM
Quote from: JG on October 22, 2007, 01:18:21 PM
ah, you guys are aware you're buying a clockwork orange twice right? 

what do you mean?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: JG on October 22, 2007, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: edison on October 22, 2007, 03:15:03 PM
Quote from: JG on October 22, 2007, 01:18:21 PM
ah, you guys are aware you're buying a clockwork orange twice right? 

what do you mean?

Quote from: familyvideoFive feature films from master director Stanley Kubrick feature on this collection. The titles included are 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, EYES WIDE SHUT, FULL METAL JACKET, and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. Please see individual titles for synopsis details. Also included is a documentary on Kubrick titled STANLEY KUBRICK: A LIFE IN PICTURES.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on October 22, 2007, 03:32:58 PM
a clockwork orange hd/blu-ray review (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews33/_clockwork_orange_HD_Blu-ray.htm)
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 12:47:43 PM
Where were you yesterday with this?

:brickwall:

I was at home, having ordered the set without knowledge of the code.  I found the code this morning.

I emailed them saying that I forgot to apply the coupon and asked if I could still have it applied or credited. They wrote back:

Yes, we can apply a $5 credit to your account once the title ships.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 22, 2007, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 12:05:37 PM
Are Barry Lyndon and Lolita even remastered?

i find conflicting info on wheter this new edition of Lyndon is anamorphic or not - apparently the one in the previous box set was not.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Fernando on October 22, 2007, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 12:47:43 PM
Where were you yesterday with this?

:brickwall:

I was at home, having ordered the set without knowledge of the code.  I found the code this morning.

I emailed them saying that I forgot to apply the coupon and asked if I could still have it applied or credited. They wrote back:

Yes, we can apply a $5 credit to your account once the title ships.

Lucky bastard, this mom & pop dvd store doesn't accept american express, so I have to spend $15 more.  :yabbse-angry:
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 04:49:06 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
I emailed them saying that I forgot to apply the coupon and asked if I could still have it applied or credited. They wrote back:

Yes, we can apply a $5 credit to your account once the title ships.

Same here.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 22, 2007, 10:45:10 PM
Quote from: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: edison on October 21, 2007, 07:35:06 AM
Family Video (http://www.familyvideo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=277820) has it for $45.97.

Use coupon code NEWMEM5F for $5 off.

ordered.

i hate it when online stores do not allow you to have an extra line for shipping address. i send mine to my parents' business since no one is home during the day.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 23, 2007, 08:51:46 AM
Thank you, edison and Ravi!  I don't know if I should look at it as you saving me $15 or giving me a reason to spend $42 but either way, thank you.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 23, 2007, 09:18:34 PM
Yesterday is was ready to ship on the release date.

Now: BACKORDERED - This product usually ships within 2 to 4 weeks.


Where's the non-smiling, middle finger smiley?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 23, 2007, 10:14:02 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 23, 2007, 09:18:34 PM
Yesterday is was ready to ship on the release date.

Now: BACKORDERED - This product usually ships within 2 to 4 weeks.

you saw this in reference to your actual order or you're just talking about the product order page?

hopefully this just means that they had an original amount that sold out and our orders were in before they ran out.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: SiliasRuby on October 23, 2007, 10:34:15 PM
Also, did you preorder it mac? Because my parents who preordered it for my birthday next month, it said that 'the product's delivery estimate date is October 26-29th' or some variation. So do you think that I might be in the clear or am screwed too?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: john on October 24, 2007, 01:58:09 AM
I also pre-ordered it on Amazon, in the same order has Under The Volcano, Breathless, and Days of Heaven. Those have all shipped, the Kubrick box has not.

But it gives me a delivery estimate of October 29th so... good news, perhaps?

Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on October 24, 2007, 10:48:35 AM
Picked up the set yesterday and will probably order Barry Lyndon sometime this week. I'm liking the transfers so far, but I won't be able to really dig into these for a couple weeks. With this and Days of Heaven and Breathless, what a good week to be poor.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 24, 2007, 11:09:37 AM
Mine still says "in fulfillment."
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Fernando on October 24, 2007, 12:52:56 PM
Mine as well is not yet shipped, delivery estimate: November 5, 2007 - November 9, 2007.

Maybe WHV didn't delivered them on time? FWIW Mac's BFF Harry Knowls didn't receive the box set for his review.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 24, 2007, 06:06:21 PM
Someone on dvdtalk.com got this email from Family Video:

Warner Home Video Director's Series: Stanley Kubrick Collection has a listed release date of 10/23/07. We have gotten word from Warner Brothers has pushed back release dates on many of their titles, and this is one of those titles. The title should be shipping out as soon as we receive it in our warehouse.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 24, 2007, 06:30:04 PM
Yeah, I got that. Pisses me off.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 24, 2007, 06:51:59 PM
i have not received that e-mail at this time, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense.

people have been able to buy the box in stores, right?

if so, that negates the push back release date excuse.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 24, 2007, 08:17:52 PM
From The Digital Bits:

Now then... let's talk Warner's new Stanley Kubrick box set. There are a number of issues bring reported by readers today, and we're getting asked a lot of questions about the discs. First issue: A lot of readers are reporting shortages of the discs - both high-def versions and the DVD box set. Amazon is apparently warning customers of delays in shipping the Blu-ray versions. Our local Best Buys here in Orange County, CA had plenty of the high-def versions today, but the DVD box sets are in short supply. Other retailers have low or no stock of either or both high-def versions, etc. I just got off the phone with Warner, and they're telling me that ALL orders from distributors have shipped out, so retailers should have plenty of copies of everything soon. Warner isn't commenting yet on the reasons for the delay and street date shortages, but industry sources are telling us privately that the studio recently switched to a new software fulfillment/distribution system, and that change over is reportedly causing some delays and logistical hiccups.

Another issue: The Eyes Wide Shut discs (all formats - as originally announced back in July) were supposed to include scene specific audio commentary by Sydney Pollack and historian Peter Loewenberg. They do not, although upon checking, a revised spec list sent to us on 9/1 had already omitted the commentary. However, neither do these discs include the theatrical version as expected, so if you want that too, you need to keep your original DVD. Studio reps have suggested to us that this may have been a disc space issue, but we're expecting official word soon. The problem with this notion is that the Blu-ray Disc version should certainly have had the room to include the other cut of the film (via seamless branching as planned). Frankly, the HD-DVD version should have had room enough as well. But we're expecting to find out from the studio exactly what happened tomorrow. Unfortunately, we have been informed that (for whatever reason) the theatrical version WAS dropped from the disc and the packaging wasn't corrected to reflect this. We're told that future copies will have corrected packaging, which means that the branching feature will NOT be part of the release.

The other question a lot of people have had, is why Kubrick's Lolita and Barry Lyndon weren't included in the set. This may be due to the possibility that the films required additional remastering work... or it could have been just a bad decision made by the studio in thinking that fans wouldn't care if they were missing. Again, we've asked the studio why the films weren't included in the set (and separately on high-def) and we hope to hear back tomorrow.

Given all of the above, you might be asking still ANOTHER obvious question: Why didn't The Bits warn its readers about any of these issues before the discs came out? And believe me, we would have had we known. Unfortunately, we didn't get review copies of these discs until just yesterday... and then not all of them. We're just as frustrated as you are, believe me. As I said, we'll try to have some answers for you on all this issues as soon as possible.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: john on October 24, 2007, 08:37:36 PM
It's official:

Warner hates Stanley Kubrick.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 25, 2007, 07:56:13 AM
i've seen pics of the set - the Shining case doesn't even match the rest of the set
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on October 25, 2007, 10:37:49 AM
It's also the worst cover out of a whole slew of bad packaging. Something other than just discs would have also been nice - an essay booklet or even some inserts (well, to be fair, they did include a Warner mini-catalog!).
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 25, 2007, 11:09:11 AM
Count your blessings, Chesty.  At least you have the box set in your hands. 

Quote from: Ravi on October 24, 2007, 11:09:37 AM
Mine still says "in fulfillment."

Anyone else have this too?  Should I just go looking for this thing in the real world or do you think we're getting this sometime this year?



Quote from: john on October 24, 2007, 08:37:36 PM
It's official:

Warner hates people who like Stanley Kubrick.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 25, 2007, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: IN SPAR_ROWS on October 25, 2007, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: Ravi on October 24, 2007, 11:09:37 AM
Mine still says "in fulfillment."

Anyone else have this too?  Should I just go looking for this thing in the real world or do you think we're getting this sometime this year?

Same here too.

I'm thinking of getting it at Best Buy so I can start enjoying it, then, when (if?) the Family Video one comes, return that one to BB to get a full refund.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 25, 2007, 10:50:18 PM
I'm just going to wait for Family Video to ship it.  Hopefully I'm not halfway through Berlin Alexanderplatz by the time it arrives.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 26, 2007, 07:54:48 AM
I just got an e-mail 15 minutes ago that it shipped!  Today's payday for me, so I was planning on doing Mac's Best Buy idea.  But I can wait 5-10 business days.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 26, 2007, 07:59:52 AM
Quote from: IN SPAR_ROWS on October 26, 2007, 07:54:48 AM
I just got an e-mail 15 minutes ago that it shipped!  Today's payday for me, so I was planning on doing Mac's Best Buy idea.  But I can wait 5-10 business days.

i have not got that e-mail yet...

the thing with the Best Buy idea - wouldn't they expect a Best Buy price tag to still be on it?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 26, 2007, 08:22:21 AM
Not if you bought it as a gift for someone but they already had it.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 26, 2007, 09:01:29 AM
I have not received the email yet, but I checked my account at the site and it says that it has also been shipped.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 26, 2007, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: IN SPAR_ROWS on October 26, 2007, 08:22:21 AM
Not if you bought it as a gift for someone but they already had it.

i see, you pulled it off so they wouldn't know the price.

has anyone done this before?

i'm guessing bar codes aren't individualized? meaning, they wouldn't run the bar code and look at your receipt and know this wasn't the one that left the store.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on October 26, 2007, 11:23:57 AM
You could try peeling off the sticker from the Best Buy copy before opening it and affixing it to the one you ordered when it comes in.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 26, 2007, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: bigideas on October 26, 2007, 10:00:26 AMi'm guessing bar codes aren't individualized? meaning, they wouldn't run the bar code and look at your receipt and know this wasn't the one that left the store.

Nope. The scan of the bar code will only bring up what the property is, like in the future when we'll all have them tattooed on the back of our shaved heads.


I have received no email, it still says "In Fulfillment" and my bank account has not been charged.


EDIT: I called Family Video to ask the status. He told me Warner had a problem with getting the stock out to the Fam Vid warehouses, but one of the warehouses now had them in. He switched my order to that warehouse and it should ship out by the end of the day. I also asked about the $5 coupon if it was a credit to this order, or a credit to my account for a future order. He said that when this ships out, they would issue a refund back to my credit card.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gamblour. on October 26, 2007, 01:46:53 PM
Man, I've been reading all this madness, without the intention of getting this soon, and I got it for my birthday yesterday!
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pozer on October 26, 2007, 02:24:23 PM
i did exactly what mac did.  they told me they ran out but have more now and will ship out today.  will get to me most likely monday, tuesday at the latest. 
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 26, 2007, 03:47:04 PM
They told me that they would ship mine Monday or Tuesday by UPS.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 26, 2007, 10:41:32 PM
From The Digital Bits:

We've got a couple of more things of note for you this evening: First, Warner has issued a statement regarding the missing theatrical version on its new Eyes Wide Shut discs. Here's what they have to say...

"On October 23, 2007, WHV released the Special Edition of Eyes Wide Shut on standard definition DVD, and on HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc, and as part of the 6-Title Stanley Kubrick Collection. It may be that some members of the press were inadvertently informed that the Special Edition release of Eyes Wide Shut included both the rated and unrated versions of the film and/or only the rated version of the film. In addition, some initially shipped product also was inadvertently labeled as containing both the rated and unrated versions of the film. The Special Edition release of Eyes Wide Shut contains only the unrated version of the film. WHV has taken steps to correct any possible misunderstanding in the marketplace by affixing to the packaging stickers stating "This package contains ONLY the Unrated Version of Eyes Wide Shut." and "Not Rated: Includes Unrated Version Only.""

That's probably not what some of you really wanted to hear, but it's certainly what we expected. We've also got confirmation from Video Business today [see below] on something we reported yesterday, specifically that Warner's recent switch to a new software fulfillment/distribution system is causing delays in shipping titles to retailers and the media. A number of retailers are indeed reporting problems getting adequate stock of Warner titles, and the studio has acknowledged the issues. However, the problems are expected to be ironed out in time for the studio's release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix and Blade Runner: The Final Cut in December.

By the way, there's still no word yet about the possible special edition re-release of Kubrick's Lolita and Barry Lyndon, but we've asked the studio about the titles and hope to hear more soon.


http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6494895.html
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 26, 2007, 11:09:45 PM
I could care less about having the rated version, but what happened to the EWS commentary? Sydney say something he shouldn't have?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: modage on October 27, 2007, 12:09:07 PM
who the fuck wants the rated version!?  are they serious?  its not a different edit, its just no stupid figures covering up all the good bits!
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: SiliasRuby on October 27, 2007, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: modage on October 27, 2007, 12:09:07 PM
who the fuck wants the rated version!? 
GT?...j/k
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 27, 2007, 04:36:35 PM
word must be getting out on the deal - the Kubrick box is now number 2 on their bestsellers.

my account still just says "in fulfillment"
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 28, 2007, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on October 27, 2007, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: modage on October 27, 2007, 12:09:07 PM
who the fuck wants the rated version!? 
GT?...j/k

Well, Kubrick said he didn't see the big difference between the rated and unrated version. I agree with him, but I'd still prefer the unrated version. I want my bad movies to have as much nudity as possible.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 28, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on October 28, 2007, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on October 27, 2007, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: modage on October 27, 2007, 12:09:07 PM
who the fuck wants the rated version!? 
GT?...j/k

Well, Kubrick said he didn't see the big difference between the rated and unrated version. I agree with him, but I'd still prefer the unrated version. I want my bad movies to have as much nudity as possible.

do you have the exact Kubrick quote on this?
all i could find by searching was Harlan relaying this after his death.

all in all, it's only 65 seconds.
as talked about it as it is, this special edition should have had a feature where you had split screen comparison or at least played the scenes back to back to see how it was changed.
all i've seen is the censored and that's been too long ago to even remember the difference when i see the unrated version.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 28, 2007, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 28, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on October 28, 2007, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on October 27, 2007, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: modage on October 27, 2007, 12:09:07 PM
who the fuck wants the rated version!? 
GT?...j/k

Well, Kubrick said he didn't see the big difference between the rated and unrated version. I agree with him, but I'd still prefer the unrated version. I want my bad movies to have as much nudity as possible.

do you have the exact Kubrick quote on this?
all i could find by searching was Harlan relaying this after his death.

all in all, it's only 65 seconds.
as talked about it as it is, this special edition should have had a feature where you had split screen comparison or at least played the scenes back to back to see how it was changed.
all i've seen is the censored and that's been too long ago to even remember the difference when i see the unrated version.

Christianne Kubrick did an interview for EWS and said that Stanley said this. Yea, Harlan was with her for some interviews. Even though Stanley never did an interview for EWS, I think his wife's word is pretty good. I also don't have an exact quote. I was relaying it from memory.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Fernando on October 29, 2007, 10:26:54 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on October 28, 2007, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 28, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on October 28, 2007, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on October 27, 2007, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: modage on October 27, 2007, 12:09:07 PM
who the fuck wants the rated version!? 
GT?...j/k

Well, Kubrick said he didn't see the big difference between the rated and unrated version. I agree with him, but I'd still prefer the unrated version. I want my bad movies to have as much nudity as possible.

do you have the exact Kubrick quote on this?
all i could find by searching was Harlan relaying this after his death.

all in all, it's only 65 seconds.
as talked about it as it is, this special edition should have had a feature where you had split screen comparison or at least played the scenes back to back to see how it was changed.
all i've seen is the censored and that's been too long ago to even remember the difference when i see the unrated version.

Christianne Kubrick did an interview for EWS and said that Stanley said this. Yea, Harlan was with her for some interviews. Even though Stanley never did an interview for EWS, I think his wife's word is pretty good. I also don't have an exact quote. I was relaying it from memory.

Kubrick never saw the uncut or censored version of the film, he showed HIS cut without the digital figures to Tom, Nicole and the executives of WB and that's the only cut he ever did, the rating problem came way before he died so he couldn't possibly agree with those digital figures because he never knew about them.

Now, Harlan said several times that SK was aware of the R rating delivery but never lived that to make those changes ( :yabbse-sad: ); also I remember Leon Vitali saying that had Kubrick lived he would have edited the scene and would not add the digital figures, but he wouldn't make those changes out of respect of Kubrick's cut.

As far as Christian saying that I don't remember hearing or reading about it, and like GT all I've typed I'm relaying it from memory.

In the end, those digital figures don't really matter and doesn't affect the film, if anything it shows how stupid and narrow minded the MPAA is, and all these what ifs about Kubrick doing or not doing something will get us nowhere, the man didn't live to see those problems.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on October 29, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
thank you fernando.

i don't understand all this talk about kubrick approving the black figures. that never happened and never would've for the reason vitali said.

it almost sounds as if some of you still have no idea what this "unrated" version really means. it's THE SAME SCENE but with maybe 3 or 4 less cloaked figures in the way of the more explicit (but still completely soft-core) simulated sex acts. there are no cuts. the differences have been available to view on the internet since the movie came out on dvd years ago.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 29, 2007, 11:14:19 AM
i've never thought it was cut and always knew there were digital figures.
it would be nice, for me personally, to see the changes back to back as some kind of dvd extra.

to the familyvideo orderers,
does your account still say "in fulfillment" or has it changed to something like "shipped?"
nowhere on there site, at least that i can find, do they define exactly what they mean by "in fulfillment."
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 29, 2007, 12:43:19 PM
I thought I was correct, but hey, can't be accurate about everything. My memory did not have the details that Fernando's did. Fernando's always been an excellent contributor for the Stanley Kubrick forum and that was an excellent post, so kudos.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 29, 2007, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 11:14:19 AM
i've never thought it was cut and always knew there were digital figures.
it would be nice, for me personally, to see the changes back to back as some kind of dvd extra.

to the familyvideo orderers,
does your account still say "in fulfillment" or has it changed to something like "shipped?"
nowhere on there site, at least that i can find, do they define exactly what they mean by "in fulfillment."

The review at dvd beaver  (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare8/eyes-wide-shut.htm) has pics of the differences. As to the family video order mine switched to "shipped" sometime last week.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 29, 2007, 01:46:41 PM
my connection is too slow to download all those hugegantic pictures. i need living breathing ___*frames per second film, not stills.

when did you order then? i think i ordered Monday night/22nd. they're probably being shipped on a first come/first served basis i would guess.

i just called the 888 number and they just told me it's on backorder and would probably be 1-2 weeks.
did ya'll act pissed or anything and say they better have it and then they changed it?
if so, i just said, 'ok.'

*i'm drawing a blank on this, but the joke is still effective.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 29, 2007, 02:28:16 PM
I ordered mine Monday afternoon and I got a shipping confirmation on Friday morning, so I have no idea how they're doing it. 
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 29, 2007, 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 01:46:41 PM
my connection is too slow to download all those hugegantic pictures. i need living breathing ___*frames per second, not stills.

Here's the video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=326816826443177154&q=eyes+wide+shut&total=422&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2) in living breathing 24 frames per second, no stills. Can your connection handle that?

Quote from: bigideas
when did you order then? i think i ordered Monday night/22nd. they're probably being shipped on a first come/first served basis i would guess.

i just called the 888 number and they just told me it's on backorder and would probably be 1-2 weeks.
did ya'll act pissed or anything and say they better have it and then they changed it?
if so, i just said, 'ok.'

*i'm drawing a blank on this, but the joke is still effective.

Ordered on 10/18, it was changed wednesday/thursday with no phone call placed to bitch and moan
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 29, 2007, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 01:46:41 PMi just called the 888 number and they just told me it's on backorder and would probably be 1-2 weeks.

I was told 2-4 weeks. "I know we told you one thing on Friday..."  Fuck this. They just lost a customer. Best Buy will be getting my money.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 29, 2007, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 29, 2007, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 01:46:41 PMi just called the 888 number and they just told me it's on backorder and would probably be 1-2 weeks.

I was told 2-4 weeks. "I know we told you one thing on Friday..."  Fuck this. They just lost a customer. Best Buy will be getting my money.

you called back today?
he said '1 to 2 weeks,' but i'm not sure if that was when i would receive it or when they would get it - if it's when they get it, then maybe it's more the 2-4.

$15 or so to trade for a little more time - that will be alright with me. it will give me some time to watch the other stuff i haven't got around to watching yet.

i'm wondering if they also have Twin Peaks the cheapest as well - and if you can reuse the $5 coupon. if it was a first time buyer coupon, then i guess i could order it as someone else.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 29, 2007, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 02:53:14 PM$15 or so to trade for a little more time - that will be alright with me.

Doesn't matter now. Best Buy ended their sale so now I have to wait.  :evil:



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I want it NOW!!!
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 29, 2007, 04:33:37 PM
you may want it now, but the question is:

do you care how?

(that pic may make a good avatar)
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 29, 2007, 05:32:54 PM
My set came in today from family video, they bumped it up to priority while I ordered the $.99 shipping. I guess because of all the troubles. It also had the mismatched Shining cover but thats ok.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 29, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: edison on October 29, 2007, 05:32:54 PM
My set came in today from family video, they bumped it up to priority while I ordered the $.99 shipping. I guess because of all the troubles. It also had the mismatched Shining cover but thats ok.

they're already producing copies with a matching Shining cover?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on October 29, 2007, 08:54:04 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
they're already producing copies with a matching Shining cover?

how many questions can a person ask?????

i have never seen anything like this.

well, here's a new page for you to fill.


let me help you get started..

Quote from: bigideas on October 03, 2007, 10:19:44 PM
is it because TLA was a commercial flop - they're treating it delicately?
Quote from: bigideas on October 04, 2007, 05:33:11 PM
any word on how much this is expanding this week (number of theaters)?
Quote from: bigideas on October 07, 2007, 12:42:42 AM
***did you find you had to register even if you are on the e-mail list and have bought things through waste before?***
Quote from: bigideas on October 07, 2007, 02:19:49 PM
did anyone enjoy the performance on Conan?
Quote from: bigideas on October 09, 2007, 09:44:13 PM
why do you dislike Savannah Smiles?
Quote from: bigideas on October 11, 2007, 11:27:43 AM
someone with deep iPod/iTunes knowledge please tell me - aren't iTunes mp4's, therefore a different type of sound file compression? if so, how are mp3/mp4 in comparison?
Quote from: bigideas on October 11, 2007, 08:31:40 PM
any idea what the little W is in the bottom left corner?
Quote from: bigideas on October 16, 2007, 11:26:55 AM
no myxo?
Quote from: bigideas on October 17, 2007, 04:24:09 PM
has anyone else noticed the 2007 edition of FMJ that still has the white background cover?
Quote from: bigideas on October 18, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
widescreen.......arrgh.........does this keep anyone from buying solely for this reason?
Quote from: bigideas on October 18, 2007, 02:52:08 PM
has anyone bought it yet?
Quote from: bigideas on October 18, 2007, 05:35:38 PM
you are legion now (the use of 'we')?

the question was - is anyone not buying because of it?
Quote from: bigideas on October 19, 2007, 08:34:55 AM
did you go the Steel Case route?
Quote from: bigideas on October 22, 2007, 11:18:57 AM
any idea if this is a preorder discount only - meaning the price goes up tomorrow?
Quote from: bigideas on October 22, 2007, 09:52:45 PM
(or do those that saw it already feel cheated?)

anyone think you'll have horny frat boys coming to see Nat nude in the short and then leaving?
Quote from: bigideas on October 23, 2007, 10:14:02 PM
you saw this in reference to your actual order or you're just talking about the product order page?
Quote from: bigideas on October 24, 2007, 11:10:59 AM
inspired by the Ryan Adams cover?
Quote from: bigideas on October 24, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
ever heard the demo of The Bends?
Quote from: bigideas on October 24, 2007, 06:51:59 PM
people have been able to buy the box in stores, right?
Quote from: bigideas on October 26, 2007, 07:53:59 AM
i wonder if this is the kind of thing you'll find at the local Barnes and Noble, or if i'd have to order online.
Quote from: bigideas on October 26, 2007, 07:59:52 AM
the thing with the Best Buy idea - wouldn't they expect a Best Buy price tag to still be on it?
Quote from: bigideas on October 26, 2007, 10:00:26 AM
has anyone done this before?

i'm guessing bar codes aren't individualized?
Quote from: bigideas on October 28, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
do you have the exact Kubrick quote on this?
Quote from: bigideas on October 28, 2007, 10:22:06 PM
anyone seen this print?
Quote from: bigideas on October 28, 2007, 10:52:17 PM
tell me this, is this Lynch with actually human sounding dialog or like The Grandmother where the voices are distorted like dogs - or anything like that - way ouuutttt there Lynch - if that even makes sense?
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 11:14:19 AM
does your account still say "in fulfillment" or has it changed to something like "shipped?"
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 11:25:05 AM
what's the best deal on this?
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 01:46:41 PM
when did you order then?

did ya'll act pissed or anything and say they better have it and then they changed it?
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 02:53:14 PM
you called back today?
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 04:33:37 PM
do you care how?
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 04:39:43 PM
i'm confused. so there are 2 different DVD/films that are out now?
Quote from: bigideas on October 29, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
they're already producing copies with a matching Shining cover?

but this is where you should've realised you had a problem:

Quote from: bigideas on September 29, 2007, 10:37:33 PM
(if someone goes to a Q&A screening please ask if there is actual Radiohead video footage for We Suck Young Blood).

Quote from: The Perineum Falcon on September 30, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
hasn't this has been pointed out several times in recent months?
Quote from: Stefen on September 30, 2007, 01:31:27 PM

Yes, and it's always in response to Big Ideas asking the same question and getting it answered the same way EVERY TIME.

Quote from: bigideas on September 30, 2007, 02:10:08 PM
you're partly correct. this is the first time that my question has been answered with a direct quote from Paul saying that it does not exist.
Quote from: MacGuffin on September 30, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
Second time. Same PTA quote, Radiohead thread:

http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9026.msg249538#msg249538
Quote from: bigideas on September 30, 2007, 06:18:48 PM
you got me there.
sorry i cannot remember every post i make on here, but be damn sure you will remind me of it.

why weren't you there while i was taking my recording studio classes that i failed?

Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 29, 2007, 10:20:50 PM
i accept the nomination, pubes!

i have been touched today...........erm, i mean,
have i been touched today?

and if so, how does one define 'touch?'

i need a direct quote however...
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: The Sheriff on October 30, 2007, 03:05:59 AM
maybe you should just give this board up and persue your true passion as a journalist

go, you are free now...
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pozer on October 30, 2007, 12:36:43 PM
dont get anymore big ideas, big ideas, they're not gonna happen.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 30, 2007, 01:45:12 PM
i used that like 50 million years ago (dinosaurs/al gore) when i came up with internet usernames.

to steer it back on track, i got an e-mail saying my Kubes box set has shipped today!

i find it odd everyone is giving the head's up on the Kubrick set, but staying tight
lipped on the Twin Peaks set...
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: modage on October 30, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
i think i'm waiting on both till xmas since i already have the previous releases.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on October 30, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
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Oompa-Loompa, Doom-Pa-Dee-Dee,
Kubrick has just been shipped off to me!
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 30, 2007, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: modage on October 30, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
i think i'm waiting on both till xmas since i already have the previous releases.

There's no reason for me to get Twin Peaks because it will take a while thoroughly enjoy the Kubrick set, but the deal maker inside of me thinks I must get it while it is on opening week sale. I don't know if I see the TP set being offered on sale again months from now. Current or fairly recent TV shows/releases will be on sale a lot of the time a few months later, but I don't know if TP is one that would be.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: edison on October 30, 2007, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 30, 2007, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: modage on October 30, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
i think i'm waiting on both till xmas since i already have the previous releases.

There's no reason for me to get Twin Peaks because it will take a while thoroughly enjoy the Kubrick set, but the deal maker inside of me thinks I must get it while it is on opening week sale. I don't know if I see the TP set being offered on sale again months from now. Current or fairly recent TV shows/releases will be on sale a lot of the time a few months later, but I don't know if TP is one that would be.

Three words:
Deep Discount Sale

Three more words:
Middle of November
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 31, 2007, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: edison on October 30, 2007, 09:17:55 PM
Three words:
Deep Discount Sale

Three more words:
Middle of November

is that when? there's also one June time i think - always around my birthday so i feel more reason to splurge.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 31, 2007, 08:46:48 AM
Got mine yesterday!  I never bought or saw either of the old releases of The Shining on DVD, so the picture and especially the sound quality was pretty astounding to me.  I look forward to buying them all over again when I finally get an HDTV and HD-DVD player.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on October 31, 2007, 09:25:01 AM
Quote from: IN SPAR_ROWS on October 31, 2007, 08:46:48 AM
Got mine yesterday!  I never bought or saw either of the old releases of The Shining on DVD

so you've never seen vivian's making of doco or heard her commentary?

if i wasn't busy watching tom cruise on leno i would berate the shi--- omg the hair..

EDIT: ok he's done. where was i.. oh yeah, watch that shit man! i can't believe there's ppl who havn't seen things that i've seen a million times. no wonder some on this thread are still bringing up EWS cuts and widescreen issues.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 31, 2007, 09:58:02 AM
You know, I did see the Viv doc when I used to live with a friend of mine who had the first remastered box but that was so long ago, it's as if I never saw it.  And now you know my secret shame.   :oops:
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on October 31, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
Mine hasn't shipped yet.  I called them today and they said it would ship today or tomorrow.  It had fucking better.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: john on October 31, 2007, 12:52:02 PM
Just arrived.

Along with both TWBB posters I got for a steal on ebay, so today is a pretty good day.

EDIT: I know it's been mentioned but... what the fuck is going on with these covers? Goddammit.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: B.C. Long on October 31, 2007, 02:05:47 PM
Yeah they look like covers for Nintendo games.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on October 31, 2007, 04:08:58 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on October 31, 2007, 09:25:01 AM
EWS cuts and widescreen issues.

wighedscruhn?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on November 01, 2007, 11:22:09 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on October 31, 2007, 02:05:47 PM
Yeah they look like covers for Nintendo games.
Nintendo covers everywhere hate you right now. Honestly, Nintendo covers aren't as bad as these. My 2001 cover is just a big red circle in the middle.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on November 01, 2007, 11:48:31 AM
Yay, mine has shipped!
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on November 01, 2007, 04:03:49 PM
Mmmmmm... Mine smells like it was freshly baked out of Kubrick's 1.85:1 oven.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pozer on November 01, 2007, 09:55:43 PM
mine tastes the same.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: The Sheriff on November 02, 2007, 12:20:02 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 01, 2007, 04:03:49 PM
Mmmmmm... Mine smells like it was freshly baked out of Kubrick's 1.85:1 oven.

Quote from: pozer on November 01, 2007, 09:55:43 PM
mine tastes the same.

look, look everyone... cinevores.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on November 06, 2007, 11:04:10 PM
IGN DVD's review:

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/833/833058p1.html
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on November 07, 2007, 01:59:59 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtis on August 19, 2007, 02:02:36 PM
The New Box Set claims to have a never-before-seen featurette for Full Metal Jacket. Does anyone know if this is the long-anticipated, never-before-seen footage that vivian kubrick shot on set? Some of this footage can be seen in the Jan Harlan doc. I believe she shot it for an intended BBC special, as she did for The Shining. If that doc is on the disc, its worth the purchase alone.

anyone have any info on this?....

It's not.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on November 07, 2007, 05:41:40 PM
these DVDs are one disappointment after another.

the fact that barry lyndon isn't included and won't even be anamorphic when it's re-released shoulda been a dead give-away. warners doesn't know SHIT about kubrick or what his fans want. they treat it as just another dip, "here, we got all this junk lying around from A Life in Pictures, let's tack it onto the films and pretend it's worth watching."

they make me sick to my ass.

i won't even consider getting this new set until i get a HD/blu-ray player and an amazing TV. the improved picture quality is really the only reason to get them.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Fernando on November 08, 2007, 09:44:55 AM
Couldn't agree more, that FMJ doesn't inlcude Vivian's doc is a HUGE bummer, I still don't regret buying it because before this set the only SK film I had on dvd was (is*) Killer's Kiss.


* I still need to go the states to pick this new set.  :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on November 08, 2007, 10:04:04 AM
they'll probably put it on another FMJ stand alone version - though, there is a new release of Full Metal Jacket on DVD with a 2007 copyright - i don't think it even has these newer extras though.

i noticed them reusing interviews over and over. i guess they gave different people the same pool of footage to draw from for their featurettes.

all in all, only $4 a disc is a good investment, especially for me, considering I only had The Shining and 2001 on DVD.

so far i've watched through all of the EWS disc, Life in Pictures, The Shining extras, FMJ and it's extras. haven't listened to the FMJ commentary yet.

i had very little knowledge on Aryan Papers and had no idea it was that recent to feature the boy from Jurassic Park.

here's one thing i've been wondering - had Kubrick told Spielberg about his plans to do a Holocaust film and then Spielberg shafted him by doing Shindler's List?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: mogwai on November 08, 2007, 10:34:28 AM
fuck warner hoes.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Ravi on November 08, 2007, 11:31:11 AM
I too am disappointed that Barry Lyndon and Lolita didn't get the new treatment, especially because I haven't seen it yet.  Even though the extras are lacking on FMJ this box set will tide me over until they're finally done right, since I skipped the first two REALLY shitty Kubrick box sets.  Like bigideas said, the price (at Family Video, anyways) was too good to pass up. 

I've only watched 2001 so far but it looks pretty good.

When's MGM going to do the SE treatment for Killer's Kiss, The Killing, and Paths of Glory?
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 08, 2007, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: bigideas on November 08, 2007, 10:04:04 AM
here's one thing i've been wondering - had Kubrick told Spielberg about his plans to do a Holocaust film and then Spielberg shafted him by doing Shindler's List?

No one fucked over anyone. Both had their projects in development for a while. Kubrick backed out because he feared his film would be underscored to Schindler's List like Full Metal Jacket was to Platoon. He also realized he couldn't put everything he wanted to about World War II into one film and fictionalizing a story around an event like the Holocaust seemed impossible. The ramifications of the Holocaust was too devastating.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on November 08, 2007, 01:28:40 PM
Those Close to Kubrick
IGN chats with Kubrick's long-time friend and assistant.

In honor of the release of The Stanley Kubrick Collection in both standard and high-definition, we were able to sit down with the director's longtime friend and assistant, Jan Harlan. For those of you interested in discovering a few new tidbits about the illusive and enormously talented director, see below!


IGN: Formatting Kubrick's films for video and DVD has always been a subject of debate for his fans. How did you decide for each film (especially Full Metal Jacket, The Shining and Eyes Wide Shut) what would be the format (aspect ratio, etc.) and why?

HARLAN: The tendency to wider formats started years ago with multiplex cinemas and wider TV sets. Stanley Kubrick didn't particularly like this trend but had to go along. In each case a decision was reached to find the best compromise taking into account the market and the wish of viewers to fill the screens of their new TV sets.

IGN: How was it decided who would record commentaries for each of the films? For example, why didn't co-writer Frederic Raphael record a commentary for Eyes Wide Shut?

HARLAN: I personally don't like commentaries. Stanley never explained his films but some people do benefit from this and the executives at Warner Home Video. take great care to do this well. After all, to listen to these commentaries is a choice. There is no commentary available for "Eyes Wide Shut" and I am glad. Mr. Raphael would have been particularly unsuited for this as was proven by the book he wrote immediately after Stanley's death. Mr. Raphael may have felt hurt by the fact that Stanley returned to a close approximation of the original story by Arthur Schnitzler, and this was his prerogative. You may be interested to know that Stanley had worked on and off on this story for almost thirty years - he loved it and he was completely satisfied with his film. The fact that it was set in New York today and not in Vienna of the '20s is irrelevant. What fascinated Stanley was the part that is universal and timeless - everybody is an expert on jealousy and sexual fantasy.

IGN: How much access did you want to grant to Warner Home Video in the process of producing bonus materials, etc. for these DVDs? Kubrick was extremely protective of his work - how tough was it to know where to draw the line (if it was necessary at all)?

HARLAN: It was not tough at all. The guideline was whether Stanley would have approved the use of the material or not. There were no indiscretions and no outtakes from his films were ever used. But art-department material, drawings and production records that he had kept in trunks for safekeeping going back to the '60s were used. I am sure many people will be fascinated seeing alternative art-department concepts for 2001: A Space Odyssey, for example. I am deeply moved by the interest young people show when going through THE STANLEY KUBRICK EXHIBITION, a large display of conceptual drawings and drafts, photographs, documents, equipment etc. Right now the exhibition is in Rome and has drawn close to 10,000 visitors in the first week.

IGN: Notwithstanding the digital onlookers who obscure the sex scenes, there is a perception that Kubrick might have made additional edits or changes to Eyes Wide Shut prior to releasing it in theaters. Is that realistic or accurate? How was it decided if this DVD version would or would not include the unedited cut of the film?

HARLAN: Stanley would have cut more to Tom Cruise walking through this modern hell and to the voyeurs in order to get the R rating. This clearly would have been better than what we had to do and, after all, it is the voyeurs who are in the center of this scene and not what they buy for their own gratification. The explosion of pornography is evident in our society and Schnitzler foresaw this in the '20s when pornography was still considered scandalous.

IGN: Which of the films was most difficult to return to in terms of bonus features or even remastering? Was there anything you tried to do but were unable because of actor or footage availability?

HARLAN: I had nothing interesting to offer on "Barry Lyndon" and outtakes would have been out of the question even if these had been available. I have since received a copy of a very interesting conversation between Stanley and Michel Ciment, but it is too late now.

IGN: Alex North recorded a score for 2001 that was never used but was later released on CD. Similarly, Wendy Carlos recorded music for The Shining that was only released later in a collection of unreleased film music. Was there any talk of adding alternate audio tracks to either of these DVDs (or any of them), or how did you want to treat the scores/ soundtracks since they are all so essential to his films?

HARLAN: I have wanted for years to have a double or triple CD set of all the music in Stanley's films. I started working on this with Leon Vitali in 2001, but it never happened. Financial and marketing reasons prevented this and the fact that Warner Bros. sold the whole music part to an independent company may also have contributed to the delay. But I understand that a comprehensive CD set is finally in the pipeline. Most of all, I want the music included that was used in Stanley's films; I am much less interested in the music that was rejected. There would be no end to this, otherwise. The stark and barren tune by Ligeti in "Eyes Wide Shut" for example, was a very late replacement for another tune, the piano accompaniment for a song by Wagner called "In the Greenhouse". Stanley decided finally against this because it felt too lyrical, and he preferred the biting quality of the Ligeti.

IGN: Kubrick was famous for shooting so many takes of each scene. Why do you think he found this to be an effective tool as a director? Is there any footage from his films that maybe indicates how he helped actors through that process find different nuances they might not ordinarily discover?

HARLAN: Film, developing and printing dailies is a minor item in the cost summary of a shooting day. Stanley liked filming the rehearsals, the red light imposed a certain discipline one does not get otherwise. He often ended up using earlier takes, or parts of them, it in the final edit; he was not one to be quickly satisfied and liked to exhaust all options and possibilities.

IGN: There isn't a lot of footage of Kubrick at work, save for a few documentaries - in particular the making of The Shining. Do you think that material accurately represents his technique and personality?

HARLAN: Vivian Kubrick's excellent film shows a particular slice of the way he worked, but it is impossible to get a comprehensive impression of such a complex person and artist by being a fly on the wall. Stanley did not like to talk about his films - he sometimes had to, but he never enjoyed the process. If he had something important to say about the subject he put it into the script.

IGN: Kubrick was obviously a pioneer of filmmaking technique, using low-light cameras for Barry Lyndon and essentially immortalizing the steadicam on The Shining. How do you think he would respond to the rise of high-definition formats, both as a filmmaking device and as a format for presenting his existing films?

HARLAN: He would have been delighted with High Definition and big plasma screens compared to the mediocre quality of video-tapes and the old style TV sets. Above all, he wanted his audience watch his films in a cinema on a large screen without distraction or interruption.

IGN: Is there any possibility that fans will ever see a proper release of any of Kubrick's early films on DVD, in particular Fear and Desire?

HARLAN: "Fear and Desire"? No - simply because Stanley didn't want this film to be shown. I like the film and I can list a number of reasons why it should be shown, but my opinion is of no consequence in the face of his clear wish. The shorts can be seen from time to time on TV or at a Cinematheque and may be released as a DVD extra.

IGN: Because of Kubrick's isolation during the later years of his life, there was much speculation about his personality and behavior. If there is one thing about him that you feel like was never accurately represented in reports or stories, what would that be?

HARLAN: His personality? He was a brilliant and highly intelligent man, well-read, well informed, impatient and demanding, but mostly demanding of himself. I worked with him for thirty years and for good reasons.

His behavior? There is nothing special about his "behavior", unless you consider his wish not to chat about his films and life on radio and TV as "odd". Journalists called him a recluse because he didn't talk to them easily and did not wish to explain his films. I think you would agree that this is not the standard definition of "recluse".

Sometimes a journalist may have taken revenge on Stanley's inaccessibility and come up with weird or nasty stories about him. I remember an incident when I was very upset about an article. I stormed into his office and told him that I would write to the paper and complain. His response was merely: "Under no circumstances must you do that --- you'll never get rid of them."
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on November 08, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 08, 2007, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: bigideas on November 08, 2007, 10:04:04 AM
here's one thing i've been wondering - had Kubrick told Spielberg about his plans to do a Holocaust film and then Spielberg shafted him by doing Shindler's List?

No one fucked over anyone. Both had their projects in development for a while. Kubrick backed out because he feared his film would be underscored to Schindler's List like Full Metal Jacket was to Platoon. He also realized he couldn't put everything he wanted to about World War II into one film and fictionalizing a story around an event like the Holocaust seemed impossible. The ramifications of the Holocaust was too devastating.

ok.
i can't remember Spielberg talking about EWS in any of the interviews, so i didn't know if the reason could be that there may have been a riff because of that. i know they talked about A.I. obviously, but you can be good friends with someone and still have subjects that you avoid.

i remember us having a thread about a Napoleon script book, but i haven't heard about that in ages. i guess i'll hunt that down now.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on November 08, 2007, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: IGN
the illusive and enormously talented director,

i think they meant ELusive.

Quote from: IGN
IGN: How was it decided who would record commentaries for each of the films? For example, why didn't co-writer Frederic Raphael record a commentary for Eyes Wide Shut?

what a STUPID question! do they know anything??? how could you ask that, it's like saying.. "gee mister, why didn't you graciously invite someone who HATES KUBRICK to have the last word on his legacy? wouldn't that have been a GREAT IDEA???" my god. unacceptable.

Quote from: Harlan
HARLAN: Stanley would have cut more to Tom Cruise walking through this modern hell and to the voyeurs in order to get the R rating. This clearly would have been better than what we had to do and, after all, it is the voyeurs who are in the center of this scene and not what they buy for their own gratification. The explosion of pornography is evident in our society and Schnitzler foresaw this in the '20s when pornography was still considered scandalous.

IGN douche bag doesn't deserve this eloquent response... "this modern hell"... "buy for their own gratification".. oddly descriptive things to say for such a straightforward question.  :ponder:

Quote from: Harlan
HARLAN: I had nothing interesting to offer on "Barry Lyndon"

i find that hard to believe. it's true, maybe ryan o'neal and marissa berenson might not wanna talk about it, but what about ken adams -- too old? milena canonero is still making the same costumes and getting oscars for them (marie antoinette). and of course leon vitali.  a visual explanation of the cameras would have been excellent but who the hell apart from like 4 ppl on this board would want to see that?  i guess that's not really much.

Quote from: Harlan
The stark and barren tune by Ligeti in "Eyes Wide Shut" for example, was a very late replacement for another tune, the piano accompaniment for a song by Wagner called "In the Greenhouse".

stealing it now.

and the nfinal anecdote is great too.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Fernando on November 09, 2007, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 08, 2007, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: IGN
IGN: How was it decided who would record commentaries for each of the films? For example, why didn't co-writer Frederic Raphael record a commentary for Eyes Wide Shut?

what a STUPID question! do they know anything??? how could you ask that, it's like saying.. "gee mister, why didn't you graciously invite someone who HATES KUBRICK to have the last word on his legacy? wouldn't that have been a GREAT IDEA???" my god. unacceptable.

How can these idiots get this kind of job? Don't they prepare for this? They should at least send someone with a little knowledge to interview someone like Harlan.

Quote from: Pubrick on November 08, 2007, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Harlan
The stark and barren tune by Ligeti in "Eyes Wide Shut" for example, was a very late replacement for another tune, the piano accompaniment for a song by Wagner called "In the Greenhouse".

stealing it now.

and the nfinal anecdote is great too.

What a great piece of information Harlan gave, I bet this idiot didn't even realize.

Did you find it? I haven't yet.  :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on November 09, 2007, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 07, 2007, 05:41:40 PMthese DVDs are one disappointment after another.

What's disappointing is the caliber of filmmakers they interviewed and could have interviewed. Spielberg, Lucas, Friedkin, Pollack; all fine and understandable. But, seriously, the cinematographers/directors of Bulletproof and End of Days? Seems wrong when you talk about great filmmakers and filmmaking and don't talk to Scorsese.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: squints on November 09, 2007, 05:18:30 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 09, 2007, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 07, 2007, 05:41:40 PMthese DVDs are one disappointment after another.
But, seriously, the cinematographers/directors of Bulletproof

Ernest Dickerson was the cinematographer for Do the Right Thing and he also directed episodes of the greatest show on television (The Wire).
But he did direct dean cain and wesley snipes in Future Sport, so i see where you're coming from...
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Redlum on November 15, 2007, 06:11:49 AM
I just watched the first 20 minutes of 2001 on Blu-ray and it really is astounding. It's definitely worth holding off on these like Pubrick says, if you intend on moving to high definition and don't want to tripple/quadruple dip.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: idk on November 16, 2007, 08:03:29 PM
The main menu in EWS looks horrible and whats up with The Shining cover art being so out of place, i mean come on consistency is key...also i noticed the FMJ disc has no cool pic while the others do, tisk tisk.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: NEON MERCURY on November 16, 2007, 10:47:46 PM
Quote from: Redlum on November 15, 2007, 06:11:49 AM
I just watched the first 20 minutes of 2001 on Blu-ray and it really is astounding. It's definitely worth holding off on these like Pubrick says, if you intend on moving to high definition and don't want to tripple/quadruple dip.

i agree!  i watched it on friday.  i was off.  you guys have to go high def.  there is no excuse now with (at least) hd-dvd players $200.  blu-ray is a wee bit more.  but with easy firmware updates the ps3 is the way to go for blu-ray.  and if you own a 360, just buy the damn cheap ass hd add on.  and hd tvs are very affordable now.  here's a tip if you are buying a hd tv that's 40" or less, than get 720p.  if you go above 40" get 1080p.  it's not that hard to get a best buy/circuit city card and finance the thing.  but yeah, 2001 looks fucking insane!  the detail and sound is phenomenal.  there's nothing more that i can say about the film 2001 except it trades w/ eyes wide shut for being kub's greatest triumph.  i love this film so much.  and i'll report back on eyes wide shut on hd-dvd soon.   
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on November 16, 2007, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: Harlan
HARLAN: I had nothing interesting to offer on "Barry Lyndon."  I have since received a copy of a very interesting conversation between Stanley and Michel Ciment, but it is too late now.

I hope they reconsider an expanded DVD for Barry Lyndon.

I believe Wes Anderson mentioned BL in his Rushmore commentary.

I think it would be very interesting if he and Scorsese filmed a talk about the film (and Kubrick in general) or even if they did a feature length commentary. Van Sant also speaks of Kubrick, so maybe him as well.

Add this to what Pubrick suggested and it would be quite a nice edition.

Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Chest Rockwell on November 17, 2007, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: pyramid machine on November 16, 2007, 10:47:46 PM
Quote from: Redlum on November 15, 2007, 06:11:49 AM
I just watched the first 20 minutes of 2001 on Blu-ray and it really is astounding. It's definitely worth holding off on these like Pubrick says, if you intend on moving to high definition and don't want to tripple/quadruple dip.

i agree!  i watched it on friday.  i was off.  you guys have to go high def.  there is no excuse now with (at least) hd-dvd players $200.  blu-ray is a wee bit more.  but with easy firmware updates the ps3 is the way to go for blu-ray.  and if you own a 360, just buy the damn cheap ass hd add on.  and hd tvs are very affordable now.  here's a tip if you are buying a hd tv that's 40" or less, than get 720p.  if you go above 40" get 1080p.  it's not that hard to get a best buy/circuit city card and finance the thing.  but yeah, 2001 looks fucking insane!  the detail and sound is phenomenal.  there's nothing more that i can say about the film 2001 except it trades w/ eyes wide shut for being kub's greatest triumph.  i love this film so much.  and i'll report back on eyes wide shut on hd-dvd soon.   
I'll add my updated impressions in five years when I can afford it.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: cowboykurtis on November 24, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
i believe this is the doc on the new 2001 release
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFRISxlerM
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: Pubrick on November 25, 2007, 05:13:18 AM
Quote from: cowboykurtis on November 24, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
i believe this is the doc on the new 2001 release
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFRISxlerM

the same user has also uploaded a bunch of other kubrick docos, including one called "The Last Movie".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2UvQTVeOmY

except it doesn't have anything to do with EWS, and i'm not convinced it's the one from the extras, and it seems incomplete at the end of part 3.

still, bless this dude.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on November 25, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: cowboykurtis on November 24, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
i believe this is the doc on the new 2001 release
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFRISxlerM

It is.

Quote from: Pubrick on November 25, 2007, 05:13:18 AMthe same user has also uploaded a bunch of other kubrick docos, including one called "The Last Movie".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2UvQTVeOmY

except it doesn't have anything to do with EWS, and i'm not convinced it's the one from the extras, and it seems incomplete at the end of part 3.

It's been reedited. The Emilio stuff has been taken out of the DVD version. The user said that the last 25 minutes were "swiped."
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on November 25, 2007, 01:52:59 PM
I've enjoyed watching the films (some I had only seen once previously) and then reading the corresponding sections in the SK Archives book.

One thing that stood out was one pic from EWS that includes something you don't see in the widescreen version...think cadaver... :ponder:
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: cowboykurtis on November 26, 2007, 12:18:35 AM
same user -- clockwork orange
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHFAXwWD6lM

Features interviews with Sam Mendes, Camille Peglia, Alexander Walker, Mark Kermode, William Sutcliffe, Tony Kaye, Steven Soderbergh and Mary Harron
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: MacGuffin on January 26, 2009, 06:13:44 PM
Sony has announced a Dr. Strangelove: 45th Anniversary Edition for Blu-ray Disc release on 6/16 (SRP TBA - the title is already available on DVD). Extras will include 6 featurettes (including An Interview with Robert McNamara, Best Sellers: Peter Sellers Remembered, Inside the Making of Dr. Strangelove, No Fighting in the War Room or: Dr. Strangelove and the Nuclear Threat and The Art of Stanley Kubrick: From Short Films to Strangelove). Also included will be the BD-exclusive The Cold Facts Graphics-in-Picture/Picture-in-Picture Track.
Title: Re: New DVDs???
Post by: tpfkabi on September 14, 2009, 11:33:16 AM
They have the box set at Sam's now - and even the Scorsese box with Mean Streets.