I read in a UK Film mag interview PTA briefly mention that he would love to do a horror movie one day. Was wondering if anyone on this board had heard anything else to this effect. Does anyone think this is a good idea? Personally, I think PT's expert use of camera, editing, music and random occurance would make for an excellent horror film. Also, his quirky writing and character development would obviously make for something original, a welcome antidote to the tired slasher movie and Sixth Sense carbon-copies being churned out in Hollywood.
I imagine it would be like a new John Carpenter movie, but actually good!
This is a genre I can't WAIT to see him try. I don't want to predict what it will be like...I just want to be surprised and scared to death.
As you will be, my friend. Oh, what a great fucking horror movie it would be!!!! :-D
I think if PTA made a horror movie, it'd be same crazy sh*t!!! I'd love to see what he could do in the genre... it would definetly be a film to change the way we look at horror films!
By the way, has anyone seen "The Eye" by the Pang brothers? That is some great horror!
Nick
i wonder if it would be 3 hours long.
a 3 hour long gore-fest
i think we have too much faith in him. i don't know, what does he say about horror movies in interviews? does he know the genre well? i love horror movies and i haven't seen a decent one since scream, which doesn't hold up on repeat viewings. sixth sense isn't a horror movie to me. there were a few scary parts, but i don't really consider it horror. i want a movie that's so scary it will make you shit your damn pants. one that has you covering your eyes and saying, "oh dear god when will it stop?!" where the fuck are all the good horror movies? I WANT ONE NOW! if cabin fever sucks, i'm going to be really pissed off.
It would probably have tons of coke in it.
His next movie is probably going to be the closest he will have gotten to horror so far being an "adventure movie" as he calls it. Although there were a lot of critics and fans that called PDL "scary"...me being one of them.
boogie nights is kind of a monster movie. eddie adams creating Dirk Diggler is as good as Victor Frankenstien saying "Its Alive".
and taz, i disagree, i think a horror movie would be perfect for paul. something tells me theres some seriously fucked up shit in his head, just waiting to get out, and weve already seen his talent at creating shocking moments. if he can make a romantic comedy scary, imagine what he could do with homicidal radioactive goats.
Quote from: bonanzatazi love horror movies and i haven't seen a decent one since scream, which doesn't hold up on repeat viewings.
So what is a horror movie to you? Have you seen 28 Days Later? I'm not ready to start defending or putting labels on things, but for the sake of simplicity, woudln't that be one?
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Quote from: Lesterif he can make a romantic comedy scary, imagine what he could do with homicidal radioactive goats.
Best. Quote. Ever. :-D
Seriously, though, I'm just excited, and I think the same as a lot of you about it: whatever PTA does, I think it's going to be interesting, because there's so much creativity and pure energy that goes into his films. The comparison is correct: PTA is like Tarantino (from Pulp Fiction, mostly) and Scorsese rolled in to one. But I also liken him to a Tykwer (
Run Lola Run) or even Jeunet from Amelie, because that's the kind of energy and emotion I see in his films. From Scorsese he only gets the grittiness that was apparent in Hard Eight, and I'm glad he's lost some of that, in favor of heart - all the great movies have a lot of heart.
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Although there were a lot of critics and fans that called PDL "scary"...me being one of them.
Ebeaman - funny you should say this. I started this thread after watching PDL on DVD last night, and I was thinking how downright hair-raising and harrowing it is at points. PTA's gift at creating this sort of coked-up nervous excitement, constantly ratcheting-up tension, would make for an EXCELLENT horror movie.
Another board member asked if PTA knows the genre well. I can't say for sure, though I've read an interview with him where he confesses to loving some of Carpenter's early films (The Thing, Escape from NY, Halloween etc.). There's definitely a Carpenter influence bubbling under the surface of PTA's films, especially in the use of the Cinemascope 2:35-1 widescreen.
On top of that, from what I've learned about Paul, he seems to have an encyclopedic knowledge of film, so I wouldn't doubt that he's seen his share of horror films, especially the 70s stuff.
Quote from: jokerspathQuote from: bonanzatazi love horror movies and i haven't seen a decent one since scream, which doesn't hold up on repeat viewings.
So what is a horror movie to you? Have you seen 28 Days Later? I'm not ready to start defending or putting labels on things, but for the sake of simplicity, woudln't that be one?
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yeah, i saw 28 days later and i thought it was really good, but i just wasn't scared. the last time i was actually shaking in my seat while watching a movie was sixth sense, so i guess it really is a horror movie, i just forgot about how scared i initially was. i noted scream because i'm still scared that if i turn the lights on the guy in the mask will be there waiting for me with a knife. i wasn't really scared of the zombies in 28 days later because i knew it was just a movie and couldn't let go of that for some reason. last night i was watching the birds and i was a little freaked out, but, for one thing, i'd seen it a million times and, for another thing, there were people sleeping so i had to keep it down and those bird sound effects just aren't scary when you can't crank up the volume. i want to get scared in a theater. i haven't had that in a long time. it's not the same at home, i was saying this in another thread. nothing beats going to the theater. i don't care if you have a 70" screen and DTS sound, nothing beats it. we need somebody (don't care who, paul, whoever) to come along and crack our skulls open with some scary, hard-hitting shit.
I watched The Shining on a friend's 40" screen and that was as close to fucking scary as I've gotten so far.
I love movies that leave you feeling drained (or elated or whatever). Se7en did that to me. I was literally shaking and sweaty when I walked out of that theater.
People, you must to remind that a good number of filmmakers would like to do any kind of movies, so PTA would love to make an horror film,yeah but it doesn't mean that he will, anyway i can't imagine how would be an horror movie by PTA, and maybe that's the reason why i love PTA's work, because he always surprise me.
Horror. I can't think of a genre that I'd hate more for him to take on at the moment. I don't know. I just can't picture it. It's such a quantum leap of a genre.
I thought the Ring was scary as hell... and if you have a chance, see the original version called Ringu. I think I would find something to like in any of PTA's future movies... unless he goes commercial and tries to make T4 (<--- inside reference to the T3 thread in "Now Showing")... and even then i'd probably be like "not bad"!!! Seriously though... PTA has a certain sensibility and approach to movies that would make any of this movies likable, as long as you enjoy at least a couple of the existing ones.
Nick
Quote from: ebeamanAlthough there were a lot of critics and fans that called PDL "scary"...me being one of them.
It's definitely a scary movie, if not science fiction...
I hope his horror movie would be similar to 28 days. Sincere, with raw emotion, as always...
Quote from: Ghoulardi GoonI watched The Shining on a friend's 40" screen and that was as close to fucking scary as I've gotten so far.
Oh, yeah..!!
I saw this on a first date.
She got so scared she started holding my arm....squeezing my arm....really tight. She was trying to crawl behind me..!!
I'm like, what? You think I can protect you from that crazy axe swinger?
But ever since then, I kinda like getting scared.
I'd like to see the PTA top that one.
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickI thought the Ring was scary as hell... and if you have a chance, see the original version called Ringu.
i hated ring. i really hated ring. the ONLY part that even remotely scared me was the part where they show the dead girl in the closet and that was a cheap scare (but don't get me wrong, i LOVE cheap scares. that was my favorite part of the ring because i ACTUALLY got a bit creeped out). never saw ringu, but i probably never will, because really. a videotape that kills annoying shits like naomi watts' character, her fucking dipshit boyfriend, and her stupidly characterized little boy... OOOOH SPOOKY!!! gimme a break.
The good thing about those cheap scares is they really isolate you in the theater. You're watching something, everything's comfortable, and the next minute you're kind of edgy about what you just saw, like the girl in the closet. That really fucked me up, so subsequent scenes should have taken advantage of that and pushed the fright further. I like to compare that to electrical jolts you get when your hand is full of static electricity and you touch a doorknob. Everytime after you try touching one, you flinch, or you prepare for it, altering your perception. I think with horror films nowadays, because audiences are such smartasses and actually make an attempt to defy being frightening instead of embracing that emotion to make the experience more worthwhile, horror films will need to use that cinematic technique to amplify the engagement of the story and suspense. That's what I'll do anyway, if I can get around to ever making a horror flick. :)
Quote from: SalI think with horror films nowadays, because audiences are such smartasses and actually make an attempt to defy being frightening instead of embracing that emotion to make the experience more worthwhile, horror films will need to use that cinematic technique to amplify the engagement of the story and suspense. That's what I'll do anyway, if I can get around to ever making a horror flick. :)
yesssssssss I love you
Quote from: tremoloslothQuote from: SalI think with horror films nowadays, because audiences are such smartasses and actually make an attempt to defy being frightening instead of embracing that emotion to make the experience more worthwhile, horror films will need to use that cinematic technique to amplify the engagement of the story and suspense. That's what I'll do anyway, if I can get around to ever making a horror flick. :)
yesssssssss I love you
??? riigghht
Why would you say that
I hate when people go "riiiight" that's so fucking stupid sounding
I hate you now
We need more Shining-esque horror films. It'd be cool to see.
I always imagine The Shining when people talk about PTA+Horror
On the subject of The Ring, I really, really hated it. The acting was probably the worst aspect of it. Then again, I liked The Mexican so what do I know ?
I just saw 'The Ring' last night. I gotta admit that I was pretty intimidated by that flick. I watched it by myself in an empty house, so, I was pretty shit nervous at times. It felt great. I liked it. I haven't been scared of a film in a looooong time. I wish someone could erase the film from my memory so I could watch it scared again. That flick will never be scary to me again (cause I'll know what happens), its one of those 'one time only' experiences, I think.
Though I liked seeing a quality horror flick, I still wouldn't want a PTA one.
Quote from: tremoloslothI always imagine The Shining when people talk about PTA+Horror
I don't know how big a fan of Kubrick PT is; I always read and hear interviews where he mentions Scorcese, Demma and Altman, and PDL was compared to Blake Edwards and Jaques Tati, among otheres - BUT - there were elements of Punch Drunk Love that were SO Kubrick that if PT wasn't deliberately thinking Stanley, he was at least subconsciously thinking Stanley...
I am thinking of the camera shined into the raw practical bulbs (ala Clockwork Orange); the use of stark, white, clinical spaces (Clockwork, Shining, 2001); the slow, creeping, symmetrical Steadicam shots of hallways and corridors (all of Kubrick). The latter is most examplified by the scene in Hawaii where Barry is sitting in the indoor, glassed-in phone booth and makes a call to D&D Mattress man and leaves a message; the scene starts outside the room as a symmetrical composition and the camera creeps in ever-so-slowly into the room and settles on Barry.
These are all visual comparisons, but on another level, the absurdity and dark humor of PDL was very Kubrick. If Stanley were alive, he would have LOVED PDL, I am sure of it.
Did Kubrick pop into anybody else's mind while watching PDL?
It's almost as if Hard Eight / Sydney was PTA's Mamet; Boogie was his Scorcese; Magnolia was his Altman; and PDL was his Kubrick.
Not that I think PTA is a rip-off artist in any way. All of these movies are wholly unique and special. I once got into an argument with a co-worker about PT - he was accusing PT of making "movies about movies". While there is a small bit of truth to this, I really wondered if this person had watched the movies and let himself be swept up and actually FEEL something. There is tremendous depth to these films that transcends whatever homages there are to other directors.
You're on to something man.
PTA is a Kubrick fan. He visited the set of Eyes Wide Shut on at least one occasion. :wink:
Quote from: adolfwolfliIt's almost as if Hard Eight / Sydney was PTA's Mamet; Boogie was his Scorcese; Magnolia was his Altman; and PDL was his Kubrick.
You're exactly right. If he does a horror flick, it'll be his Craven.
Nick
PTAHorror.
Quote from: adolfwolflihe was accusing PT of making "movies about movies".
I forgot where I read this, or who said it, but I think it was written by a commentator on IMDB: they said, "All movies are about other movies." I wholeheartedly agree. Except for the first film made, of course. And who knows what that was. I know, I know, it was some documentary Lumiere footage, but I've never seen it. Anyway, the other quote that goes with this is: "movies are the history of men photographing women." Pretty sure this is from some prominent director, but I forget which.
I believe in both quotes, and if I ever get to make a film, you'll know it's been influenced by other films. That's nothing to be ashamed about, because it can't be avoided. And if they can see your influences and you've done it well, all the better. And maybe you'll come across a few new things of your own that others will rip off. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickQuote from: adolfwolfliIt's almost as if Hard Eight / Sydney was PTA's Mamet; Boogie was his Scorcese; Magnolia was his Altman; and PDL was his Kubrick.
You're exactly right. If he does a horror flick, it'll be his Craven.
Nick
I bet it would be more like PTA's Carpenter, due to the use of Cinemascope and steadicam and odd music cues.
Jon Brion would have it eay this time; all he would have to do would be to hold down one note on his analog keyboard: DUM dum dum dum DUM dum dum
Quote from: adolfwolfliJon Brion would have it eay this time; all he would have to do would be to hold down one note on his analog keyboard: DUM dum dum dum DUM dum dum
Oh! So that's why PTA visited the set of Eyes Wide Shut!
Nick
He should do a snuff film
Quote from: caraxi always thought boogie nights was a snuff film.
Well, The Dirk Digler Story definetly looks like a snuff film... of course that could just be because its awful and my copy is a 1728th generation copy!
Nick
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickQuote from: caraxi always thought boogie nights was a snuff film.
Well, The Dirk Digler Story definetly looks like a snuff film... of course that could just be because its awful and my copy is a 1728th generation copy!
and your blind
Quote from: adolfwolfliQuote from: tremolosloth
Did Kubrick pop into anybody else's mind while watching PDL?
The scene with Barry talking to Georgia on the phone in the morning after he calls the phone sex line the first time reminded me of him in a big way...definitely. With the white background...and the framing of the walls and how evil her voice sounds and all, and how the camera starts to creep in on him at one point. That's become one of my favorite scenes in the movie, it's so perfect.
But other than that...not too much at the time I first saw it. But after reading what you had to say, I see much more, I see what you mean. I definitely agree too...I wouldn't be surprised if he intended to make PDL a little Kubricky...and that's fucking awesome.
I didn't say that
Quote from: Duck SauceQuote from: TheVoiceOfNickQuote from: caraxi always thought boogie nights was a snuff film.
Well, The Dirk Digler Story definetly looks like a snuff film... of course that could just be because its awful and my copy is a 1728th generation copy!
and your blind
Actually, I am... I just wear my "Geordi La Forge" visors and I can see fine.
Nick
Quote from: adolfwolfli
I bet it would be more like PTA's Carpenter, due to the use of Cinemascope and steadicam and odd music cues.
this is how i imagine it to be as well