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hasn't leaked yet. a couple new tracks can be heard on their myspace. (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=28460683)
I love everything tv on the radio has done, Young Liars Ep, Desperate Youth Bloodthristy Babes, and Return to Cookie Mountain are all classics in my opinion and their cover of Daniel Johnston's "Walking the Cow" is fucking fantastic. Based on these two new songs I'm not so sure I'll feel the same way about this new album.
But...
I'm seeing them on Halloween. Fuck yeah!
does anybody know where i can find the lyrics to Dear Science? i've been searching.
what a great album.
It's absurd how much I love this band. It's also absurd how much I want them to announce something...anything..about working on a new album. Well, thanks to Dave Sitek releasing a solo album and fielding questions about a possible tour schedule for it, it looks like we may have indirect confirmation on a new album sooner than later,
"Sitek won't be participating in one of the most conventional marketing strategies for a new album, though -- his recording schedule for the new TVOTR record prevents him from mounting a tour anytime soon. "We are looking for events for him to play and opportunities on TV," Wood says. "Touring eventually is not out of the question, either."
http://www.billboard.com/news/tv-on-the-radio-s-sitek-takes-flight-with-1004109306.story?tag=hpfeed#/news/tv-on-the-radio-s-sitek-takes-flight-with-1004109306.story?tag=hpfeed
Wow GT I had no idea you listened to music. I thought all you cared about was sport, Oliver Stone and Kevin Costner.
Good band to finally give your musical virginity to.
Oh, I've always loved music more than movies. It's just with movies I have a false illusion I can say something about them. With music I am just a spectator and fan. I happily sit in awe, but I always have my Ipod on while I can only watch 5 movies a week at most. Movies play with imagination and keep my critical mind in flow, but music soothes me. I always go back to it. In fact, I love music so much I am planning a move New Orleans next year to be in the middle of a music scene I really love. I checked the theaters there to see if I would be lucky to watch some great art films and no dice. It's a crap climate for movies compared to other cities, but the music scene is to die for for me.
Thanks to this board, I'm getting more into popular indie music, but I honestly have nothing to say about it. I'm just enjoying the music.
TV on the Radio exists on a plane with Arcade Fire and Vampire Weekend for me, where I can recognize that they're talented bands and I wouldn't begrudge anyone for being into them, but they just don't do a thing for me.
I think it's a good analogy, but Arcade Fire exists on a separate plane alone, in that they are much more talented and infinitely more pretentious. And I mean that in the actual definition of the word instead of the abused and misused one. Hijacking this thread to say I don't get the hype over The Suburbs, and they probably made their best album already. Their first one. Who knows, maybe I'll say something else elsewhere, but suffice it to say, Sprawl is right.
As for TV on the Radio? All I know about them I learned from their SNL appearance when Bradley Cooper hosted in February '09. Pleasant, but I didn't remember too much. This thread's resurrection has at least made me want to go back. Check it out, GT. I'm usually impressed by live performances of bands I love -- at least, when their material actually translates and lends itself to live performances.
Yeah, I'm sure The Suburbs is a fine album and I'll eventually appreciate it but right now it seems far too safe to be interesting. It's the obvious ascension towards a mass, middle-of-the-rad, appreciation. Not that Neon Bible or Funeral where "dangerous" by any means, but they did seem sonically adventurous in a way that's missing from The Suburbs.
The Arcade Fire and TV on the Radio seem to get a lot of praise for being interesting, taking chances, or being adventurous - but I don't hear it. It's very pleasant, sure - but it's pretty much "adult contemporary" for a new generation. Music for a dentists waiting room, bu slightly more literate.
I saw Kyp Malone and a bunch of assholes open for The Pixies last year. It was mellow, dull and entirely forgettable... there was a brief moment of spontaneity evolving from some sort of last minute feedback freakout where things suddenly became interesting. It ended quickly and Malone apologized saying it was completely unintentional.
Even worse was when I found out No Age opened for The Pixies the next night at the very same venue. A far more interesting band with far lass members.
It's not like Arcade Fire. Who even knows who's in TV on the Radio, I've never heard their names or of anyone caring about them.
Arcade Fire might not be risky or whatever but it's damn efficient. Their bad song/good song ratio is extremely low, probably the lowest of modern bands. Also, it's foreseeable that the day Arcade Fire will die, Win Butler and Regine will have a great solo/duo career. It might very well be adult contemp for a new generation, but we need that.
It used to be Arcade vs Bloc Party and I guess that was much more close.
I realized the other day that I would probably like Arcade Fire a lot more if they mixed the lead vocals higher. That's a weird thing to get caught up on, but it's the only thing I can figure out that's keeping me from elevating them from "band I'm aware of" to "band I like".
john, you must have some kickass dentists.
First off, thanks Ono for the suggestion. The performances were good.
For me, TV on the Radio is astounding. One thing that has kept me from lots of indie music is that I automatically correlate lyrics with the music and ask that both make cognitive sense to me. It's tough for a lot of bands. I had a honeymoon phase with Wilco years ago because they were so much fun, but people tried to argue me the thematic implications of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot and I couldn't buy the larger ideas or its importance. It was all just too pretentious and dumb, but I still enjoyed the album a lot. However, me not buying into the "genius" of the album is what kept me gun shy with a lot of bands of a similar order.
So, I've been into instrumental music like jazz. I sit back and marvel at things I cannot understand or comprehend ever being able to duplicate. I've started to understand musical structure more and I am curious, but I still know I will always be just a fan. In the last few years, though, TV on the Radio has gotten me to believe in them wholeheartedly because their lyrics are amazing and their musicianship is constantly evolving. The music will never be as good as the better jazz musicians I know, but their brevity and sense of ability to expand on models to package lyrics is amazing. Dear Science is more conscious of musical structures which makes it sound more generic to some, but it also has some of their best lyrics. After 7 years, the band is continuing to improve.
I now listen to lots of kind of music. Lots of bands based in lyrics and pop structures, but I like them on different levels. In my opinion, TV on the Radio just compels me on more levels. But my interest in instrumental music will always get me to like a band like Ludus before I like a classic pop oriented band. It's just my personality make up.
I understood what their first album was about but it wasn't my thing. I liked all the poppy stuff going on with Dear Science. The melodies were beautiful and the arrangements were inspired. For example, the guitar triplets during Shout Me Out counting outloud the 4/4 and letting the listeners know that each quarter know is broken down into triplets. It's a pretty well-known musical concept but the way it's illustrated in this is pretty fantastic. I also loved the lushness that came with Family Tree and how it kept going just like some early Bjork stuff. I think all their decisions would've remained simply heady if they didn't have such great hooks, catchy and odd.
my roommate's friends with this band that really needs to attack America right now, they're like TV on the Radio meets Muddy Waters meets Black Sabbath (I stole that description from Waxpoetics) so you should check 'em out:
http://www.myspace.com/thejuggsband
Quote from: pete on August 31, 2010, 03:36:19 AM
they're like TV on the Radio meets Muddy Waters meets Black Sabbath (I stole that description from Waxpoetics) so you should check 'em out:
http://www.myspace.com/thejuggsband
Ehhh... This is a bit of an oversight on all the comparisons. Maybe they have some amazing songs that they for some reason don't post on their myspace, but as it is they sound less like TV on the Radio / Muddy Waters / Black Sabbath and more like Monster Magnet / Butthole Surfers / Reverend Horton Heat.
Not that the latter comparison is bad, but as far as I can tell, it feels more accurate of a description. I can't really dig my teeth into their TVotR/MW/BS comparison other than to hype them up on the success of these other bands.
I like TV On The Radio a lot. Saw them twice last summer. From what I remember the sound on SNL was horrible during their performance though normally they're great live. The band even commented on it (http://stereogum.com/53881/tv_on_the_radio_sound_off_on_their_shitty_snl_soun/house300/), maybe it's been adjusted for rebroadcast/NBC player, I'm not sure.
Quote from: // w ø l r å s on August 31, 2010, 12:45:37 PM
Quote from: pete on August 31, 2010, 03:36:19 AM
they're like TV on the Radio meets Muddy Waters meets Black Sabbath (I stole that description from Waxpoetics) so you should check 'em out:
http://www.myspace.com/thejuggsband
Ehhh... This is a bit of an oversight on all the comparisons. Maybe they have some amazing songs that they for some reason don't post on their myspace, but as it is they sound less like TV on the Radio / Muddy Waters / Black Sabbath and more like Monster Magnet / Butthole Surfers / Reverend Horton Heat.
Not that the latter comparison is bad, but as far as I can tell, it feels more accurate of a description. I can't really dig my teeth into their TVotR/MW/BS comparison other than to hype them up on the success of these other bands.
ehh now you have to explain how they sound like those three bands that I don't listen to.
The singer sounds like the singer from Monster Magnet, they share a strong, masculine tone, almost kind of Nick Cave-y. Vocally, they also share almost a gruff crooning quality with the singer of Butthole Surfers. They share a rockabilly sensibility with Reverend Horton Heat, but that was a stretch because of it's semi-southern kind of riffs. They are certainly not Black Sabbath riffs, nor do they maintain the heavy, doom-metal qualities. I am at a loss as to how they even compare to TV on the Radio. And maybe the Muddy Waters comparison could be reconciled with these southern vibes, but it bears no semblance to Muddy Waters' trademark frankness in lyrics or soulful voice. In fact, the intricate guitar work of Muddy is just totally separate from the tricky guitar work of The Juggs.
Don't get me wrong, I really did dig these guys. I guess just because they do have some loose comparisons to the bands you listed, but the shortcomings of some reviews is that they tend to exaggerate likenesses in order to hype a band, but it can lead to disappointments when those links are not vividly apparent.
Hallelujah! Now I don't have to search google every week for morsels of hope. I can now check every week for real news and developments.
TV On the Radio Return This Spring with New LP
Source: Spin
By Kevin O'Donnell
February 7, 2011 3:43 PM
TV on the Radio will return this year with a new album — their first since 2008's Dear Science, which was SPIN's album of the year — the band announced on their official site today.
Details are scant, but the Brooklyn-based art-rockers have revealed the LP will be titled Nine Types of Light and will be released by Interscope sometime this Spring.
TVOTR are also plotting their return to the road. They will kick off a national headlining tour on April 13 at New York's Radio City Music Hall, with more dates to be announced shortly. Tickets will go on sale Friday, February 18.
http://www.spin.com/articles/tv-radio-return-spring-new-lp
First song, Will Do, is out: http://blogs.1077theend.com/aharms/2011/02/23/world-premiere-tv-on-the-radio-will-do/
Album drops on April 12. Tour begins soon after. First song sounds simplistic for them. Lyrics aren't too intricate and wrap around a soulful love feeling. On Dear Science, you could tell Tunde was in love by the lyrics. He still sounds in love so I hope it won't stunt the whole album the way it does with other bands.
With this band, I could never get past the vocals. It's nails on a chalkboard for me... sounds like some kind of primal pretentious screech. The lyrics just compound the problem.
I would continue to give them a shot, sonically/texturally they're really interesting. Additionally there are 2 different vocalists, one sounds more like David Bowie and the other is prob the one you're thinking of. Most of my favorite bands I couldn't stand the singers voice when I first heard it (Joanna Newsom, Magnetic Fields, etc. etc.)
Which singer is the screechy one?
What is your deal with the lyrics? That is their highlight to me.
I'm normally not in the position of bashing a band, but I'll explain...
The song that really gets to me is "Dancing Choose." It has the screechy/nasally vocals, and the delivery is so pretentious, like it's this amazing poetry, when it's basically a random collection of unclever ironies and nonsense. The whole thing sounds like a more arrogant (and more annoying) version of "We Didn't Start The Fire." As I've always said, when you make the lyrics so central to the song, they have to deliver. In this case, they just make it worse.
http://lyrics.wikia.com/TV_On_The_Radio:Dancing_Choose
Could not disagree more with comparison to We Didn't Start the Fire. All the lyrics in that song are is a collection of references to timely events when the song was written. There is an aspect of random in Dancing Choose, but the build up is more in how a journalist becomes embedded in his own ego and is allowed to get away it because the people criticizing him will tend to become self interested after a little while of protesting. It's the modern youth generation.
Heard the new album a dozen times without the aid of official lyrics. Sonic wise, they are going for density more so than any other. They continuously allow different textures of music to play off of each other. The music is engrossing and you keep hearing new parts of a track with every listen. The dedication reminds me of Return to Cookie Mountain. That album is amazing for its continuous repetition of beats and how it lulls you into the mindset of the lyrics that are personal but revolve around a historical basis. It allows the intended allusions to be elevated and felt on multiple levels.
Spin's review of the new album says the themes are restrained compared to their other work, but if this album is how they are going to relax their content, wow. There is a lot of ambition in the production. The possible fail point is that the lyrics are embarrassingly bad and do not ring true with either experience or good philosophical thought. TV on the Radio dances more than most bands in trying to find the most poetry out of their lyrics. When they are good, they leave you thinking they captured a fair amount of your experiences in just one song. When they are bad, all they are doing is imitating over embellished poetry. A few discernible lyrics in the new album are bad, but few of their songs are perfect all the way through. However, the music is always half of the story with this band. They have the best lyrics so I want to see how they grow with me.
boo on all of you...
the bassist died (http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/04/20/135578544/gerard-smith-member-of-tv-on-the-radio-has-died?ft=1&f=1001) of lung cancer, he was 36.