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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #90 on: December 25, 2013, 11:19:00 AM »
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So much energy in this movie for a character I didn't give a shit about. Yes, DiCaprio is great. But I was bored. I felt the energy, though, while being bored - for a long time, this movie is long, really long-, and found myself in a strange state at the end.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #91 on: December 25, 2013, 01:34:12 PM »
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http://www.theasc.com/ac_magazine/December2013/TheWolfofWallStreet/page1.php


“When we started testing different digital cameras and ideas, I also shot film as a benchmark so I could understand differences in terms of latitude, color and so on,” Prieto recalls. “I shot the same images on film and on digital, and when I screened the tests for Scorsese, he kept pointing to the film versions and saying they looked better, basically noting that the skin tones were richer and there was more color nuance. So, I went to our producers to explore the financial implications of shooting on film negative and reserving digital capture for low-light situations. After looking at the comparative costs, production agreed to work with that hybrid method.”

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #92 on: December 25, 2013, 08:56:23 PM »
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Some fun scenes. Way too freakin' long and repetitive. Leo is no Ray Liotta when it comes to voiceover. I loved the final shot.

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #93 on: December 26, 2013, 03:22:07 PM »
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I feel akin to this statement,

Richard Brody, New Yorker:
"No, of course Scorsese doesn’t approve of Belfort’s actions; who would? We may wish that such behavior didn’t exist, but its existence is a central part of human nature, and there’s a reason that we can’t stop watching, just as we can’t stop watching the terrifying storm or the shark attack. Within the movie’s roiling, riotous turbulence is an Olympian detachment, a grand and cold consideration of life from a contemplative distance, as revealed in the movie’s last shot, which puts “The Wolf of Wall Street” squarely in the realm of the late film, with its lofty vision of ultimate things. It’s as pure and harrowing a last shot as those of John Ford’s “7 Women” and Carl Theodor Dreyer’s “Gertrud”—an image that, if by some terrible misfortune were to be Scorsese’s last, would rank among the most harshly awe-inspiring farewells of the cinema."

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #94 on: December 26, 2013, 04:31:09 PM »
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the "we can't stop watching the terrifying storm or the shark attack" part illustrates to me how he's attempting to generalize to a higher status. i can stop watching those things. that's me. brody also appeals to authority figures by referencing classics. forget it. i think what he did was amplify the sounds of fright and yes, if it worked for you already it must work better now. not sold
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #95 on: December 26, 2013, 04:52:48 PM »
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Spoilers, I guess.

Yes. I could definitely stop watching. I was so distant...This Jordan Belfort, how can you follow three hours of this man? He's not Tony Soprano or Daniel Plainview. He's just there, on drugs, doing insane things, for almost three hours, then he's not, cause the FBI...People were fascinated by Jordan during his speeches. And then, me, watching people fascinated, wondering if the movie would end.

But this movie is insane. Not insanely good, though. Anyway, a lot of people love it, it's a good thing. He made it work in a way that I can't get.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #96 on: December 26, 2013, 05:37:17 PM »
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Felt this was Scorsese's worst, but I didn't hate it. I feel apathetic toward it, really. Like ©brad said, some fun scenes, but a missed opportunity to make something much more interesting. This is key, from David Denby's New Yorker review:

Quote from: Davd Denby
As the critic Farran Smith Nehme pointed out to me, one of the filmmakers’ mistakes was to take Jordan Belfort’s claims at face value. In his memoir, Belfort presents himself as a very big deal on Wall Street. The movie presents him the same way—as a thieving Wall Street revolutionary—whereas, in fact, he was successful but relatively small time.

Telling it from that angle would have made the character so much more complex.

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« Reply #97 on: December 26, 2013, 06:12:30 PM »
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That's funny. I actually got that exact impression from the real-life video on the previous page. He's self-consciously speaking like a big-shot but you can hear from the constant background conversation that probably half the people on the boat are barely paying attention or ignoring him entirely.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #98 on: December 26, 2013, 06:16:02 PM »
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Bahaha I didn't see that that's fucking hilarious

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #99 on: December 26, 2013, 06:21:01 PM »
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I think I'm having similar problems with this film, it's hard for me to really put my finger on how much I liked it. But what I mainly cared about from Brody's statement was that there was an element of detachment from all that was going on, where we could see humanity's progression to the point we're at now, and in those moments I felt a sense of awe.

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #100 on: December 26, 2013, 06:50:24 PM »
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ooh yeah that's so true. he's detached from being a human, that's how he's able to persist. in a movie sense, his center is amorality. he sure cooks it. i'm glad you mentioned because i wasn't thinking about it. i still don't like the movie, but now i like thinking about it more
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #101 on: December 26, 2013, 07:04:01 PM »
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I wanted to add that...at one point, the movie really felt long, and they were still doing insane parties and being crazy and doing drugs, and I felt the void in all this debauchery. It was the point? So Marty won? I like to think about it.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #102 on: December 26, 2013, 10:00:47 PM »
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http://www.pluggedin.com/movies/intheaters/wolf-of-wall-street.aspx

"All told, well more than 700 profanities, vulgarities and obscenities crowd every square inch of The Wolf of Wall Street. And at least 525 are f-words."

Ha. I guess Scorsese made a kid's film last, and wanted to come back swinging.
Now that I think about it, I don't know that I've seen Goodfellas or Casino unedited for TV - and I have 2 DVD copies of Goodfellas (I bought one cheap at a rental store going out of business, and then bought a Scorsese box that was really cheap).
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #103 on: December 27, 2013, 06:31:56 PM »
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You can't compare Jordan Belfort to Tony Soprano or Daniel Plainview. Jordan Belfort is a real person and all that stuff did happen.

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #104 on: December 27, 2013, 08:20:44 PM »
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A character is a character. Based on real events or not. And I can compare characters. I don't think Sorkin's Zuckerberg is the real Zuckerberg. I don't want him to be. The character of Jordan Belfort in The Wolf of Wall Street doesn't seem real to me. That's the irony and why I didn't care about him. Why I didn't laugh. Why I wasn't fascinated. Why I could stop watching.

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