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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #135 on: January 18, 2014, 04:45:22 AM »
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Re: Alexandro - I feel bad posting in here again without responding to you, but I won't have anymore to say until I see the movie another time.

For now, here's this surprise:






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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #136 on: January 18, 2014, 07:10:21 AM »
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^ Biggest surprise in this interview: physical comedy segment wasn't planned. Yet for me it felt very deliberate.

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Speeches delivered by Belfort didn't convince me either, but should they? This reminds me of "Nashville", where most singers were more than average. What is import here I think is abuse of confidence and trust. I'm not only speaking about clients, but also about workers. He gives very graphical presentation of the script to his workers and they are laughing their asses off, probably thinking about those poor suckers. Yet his "friends" from Wall Street are swallowing his IPO/quitting pitches without a problem. In the end he sells them to FBI.

Everything is for sale and everyone can be bought - this is pretty much a Jordan attitude. Notice how upset he gets, when this doesn't work. FBI agent is obvious example. There is also Duchess - that sex scene was like a message "I paid with my body for last time, leave me alone" for me and then he goes for drugs as he figures out that she bought him, not the other way around.  He initially gets very angry with article in Forbes - they didn't buy his fairy tale about Stratton Oakmont.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #137 on: January 18, 2014, 06:24:39 PM »
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yes, and both those pep talks of motivation are all about getting them to sell more. what's interesting is this you are mentioning of how he looses his temper when his philosophy of life is challenged by people who doesn't buy into his schtick.

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #138 on: January 20, 2014, 01:19:41 AM »
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Speeches delivered by Belfort didn't convince me either, but should they?

I think it's partially that the story is told through his voice/filter, but also that if these people were making so much money from this business, any words their boss needed to say through a microphone to them would come across as gospel, wouldn't it?

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #139 on: January 28, 2014, 05:15:47 PM »
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The Wolf of Wall Street’ Blu-ray Will Include the Rumored Four-Hour Cut

There was a lot of talk before Martin Scorsese‘s ‘The Wolf of Wall Street‘ hit theaters about the length of the film: the release had been delayed so Scorsese could get the runtime down to an acceptable three hours from what was said to be a four-hour version of the film, and although Scorsese never releases “director’s cuts” of his films, we’re hearing you will be able to see his four-hour cut after all when the Blu-ray hits shelves this spring.

Producers Joey McFarland and Riza Aziz spoke with the Daily Mail about what we can expect from the Blu-ray release of the film:

I think we are going to have some good surprises. To be honest with you the movie is not much different in its longer form, it’s just longer versions of scenes. Nothing really got cut out so it’s a lot more of what you’ve already seen.

Scorsese has often said that the theatrical versions of his films are his “director’s cut,” and the DVD/Blu-ray releases of his films do not include extended, uncut, or unrated versions of his movies. But it looks like we’ll actually be able to see Scorsese’s four-hour cut of the film as the producers confirmed to the Daily Mail that viewers will have the option of watching the film with the extended scenes intact.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #140 on: January 31, 2014, 04:53:31 AM »
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Highlights: first ~15 minutes is about "Boardwalk Empire", unreliable narrator, making "Wolf" in 2007 with Warner Bros, prolonging Quaalude scene, casting Jonah Hill, tweaking voice-over, not judging Jordan.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2014, 02:10:55 PM »
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‘Open Letter To The Makers Of ‘The Wolf Of Wall Street’ Writer Christina McDowell Gets Book Deal


http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/open-letter-to-the-makers-of-the-wolf-of-wall-street-writer-christina-mcdowell-gets-book-deal/

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #142 on: February 03, 2014, 04:44:34 PM »
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Of course she did. That's why she wrote that in the first place.

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« Reply #143 on: February 12, 2014, 05:54:10 PM »
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #144 on: February 13, 2014, 01:02:08 PM »
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Highlights: getting noticed by Scorsese after "Moneyball", then there is a bit of talk about career transition, being forced by Martin to watch films, knowing character from the start, relation between Jordan and Donnie, feeling horrible after playing cruel, not finding anything good in character.
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2014, 04:18:00 PM »
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christopher doyle doing that doyle thing where he passionately dislikes something:
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"Have you seen fucking The Whore of Wall Street?" he asks. "Marty, you're such a genius, what the fuck are you doing? It made me so sad, this genius person, and then …" Exhaling deeply, he looks truly depressed, turning away and gazing into the middle distance.

"I don't know. It just made me sad all the time. What is it telling us? It's not engaging us in anything important," he says, ranting at length
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/24/christopher-doyle-cinematographer-interview
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2014, 09:09:38 PM »
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so, he didn't understand the movie.
the dumbest thing to say about a movie is that is saying something "important", or that is not saying it. that's not his thing to decide, and it doesn't matter. if it is engaging then he should ask himself why is he so engaged, not expect the movie to tell him so. jesus. "oh yeah, that film was really saying something important". please.

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #147 on: May 03, 2014, 01:12:17 AM »
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doyle's an interesting person with a personal paradise clouded by art and booze, and i don't think he has a reigning perspective. noyeah, his perspective is plain rainy. i like rain. but sorry if it seemed like i was trying to hurl arguments from the pedestal of a high-authority

^think my reign/rain thing is odd and i'm keeping it
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #148 on: May 03, 2014, 06:31:24 AM »
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and when one wonders, its all cinema.
but just yes, don't doubt, here it is. leo is about it, and we know its false.

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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
« Reply #149 on: May 03, 2014, 09:09:27 AM »
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he also speaks from the bitterness of his film infernal affairs being remade as the departed.
I'm just tired to hear from smart, thinking people that Wolf is a 3 hour dumb film about nothing, or superficially engaging, or not "deep" enough. It's lazy criticism, getting up there with Kubrick is cold and The Master is boring. has no point.

 

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