Yeah, you answered your own question.
As for Children of Men, it's just okay, another film where I blink once or twice, trying to figure out what other people see in it, and then come to the conclusion that there really isn't that much there. Don't strain yourself too much to see the film. Like with The Departed, in times of creative drought, people will grasp onto anything in hopes of quenching that thirst for something special. Neither film is it. Something like Pan's Labyrinth comes close with its creative visual flair and revelation of a new world that's really always been there, but the writing (painting of characters, really) is too simple and cookie-cutter for it to be anything special. Same with something like Brick. Smoke and mirrors, that one. Lots of cool talk, but not a lot of depth, and it succumbed to trickery and violence, much like Pan, in an effort to shock and awe.