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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2003, 09:46:11 PM »
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because he needs to become a director again, not a whore

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2003, 09:48:23 PM »
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because he needs to become a director again, not a whore

He never was a director ... er, "good director" ... in the first place.

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2003, 09:53:55 PM »
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He's always looked like a softcore porn director to me.

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2003, 09:54:23 PM »
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ooooh i beg to differ  (american graffiti?  come on, u can't tell me u disliked it)

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2003, 10:06:10 PM »
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Actually, first time I saw it, I did dislike it.  Except for the whole Wolfman Jack thing.  And I've only really seen clips of it since.  And yeah, he does look like your archetypal softcore porn director.

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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2003, 10:17:56 PM »
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..Alright-

.I personally think he is ..good.

he has an unbelievable amoutn of creativity..
the phreak'n imagination it took tto create The star wars saga...that alone should be enough for NO ONE to look down upon the guy for any reason..

say what you will about the S-wars saga you either likeit or you don't
you either like the eps. 4-6 and hate eps. 1&2
or you like eps. 2&4-6

those are the catagories wherre I think generally fans a s-wars fall..

i like them all..and think that whoever thinks that he sucks is insane and should be banned from this board on general pricipal...

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2003, 10:39:02 PM »
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i think this whole board is pretty harsh on George Lucas.


..yeah I agree.

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WHY?.


Quote from: NEON MERCURY
..Alright-

.I personally think he is ..good.

he has an unbelievable amoutn of creativity..
the phreak'n imagination it took tto create The star wars saga...that alone should be enough for NO ONE to look down upon the guy for any reason..

say what you will about the S-wars saga you either likeit or you don't
you either like the eps. 4-6 and hate eps. 1&2
or you like eps. 2&4-6

those are the catagories wherre I think generally fans a s-wars fall..

i like them all..and think that whoever thinks that he sucks is insane and should be banned from this board on general pricipal...


exactly

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2003, 10:42:07 PM »
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he defended georgey both times

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2003, 11:28:10 PM »
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i think this whole board is pretty harsh on George Lucas.


no, i mean, i really wanted to know why fox doesn't make the marketing decisions. especially with something as popular as SW. i don't think new line would allow mike myers to not release the austin powers movies on dvd just because he didn't think they were "ready."
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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2003, 11:31:34 PM »
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Lucas pays a reported 7 percent of film gross to Fox for distribution.

Lucas also generally pays for theatrical and video distribution only, meaning that he retains the rights for toys and other consumer spin-offs, and has the sole right to make sequels
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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2003, 11:32:25 PM »
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ban me.

But to rip the heart out of Star Wars, I've never liked any of them at all. Popularity wise, I think they found a large niche of cultists who have followed the series in every form known to entertainment. For the mass appeal at the beginning, Star Wars advanced the technology of Kubrick's 2001 into the modern day video game. Me, personally, I wasn't born in that time (I got LOTR instead and reject it) but the entire series at best feels like Kurosawa dragged to the mud that destroys mythology and any talent into a series of adventures worthy of bad serial comics and human affairs repeated and copied in soap operas.

I do think American Graffitti is a good film. Lucas the director has since then dissappeared.

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2003, 07:45:22 PM »
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...but the entire series at best feels like Kurosawa dragged to the mud that destroys mythology and any talent into a series of adventures worthy of bad serial comics and human affairs repeated and copied in soap operas.


..I see your point.....

BUT...

..here is my opinion..I grew up in that era of Star wars. so that right their makes me baised (somewhat)..But i  think that when dealing w/ something as big in scale as this saga is your (my new phrase  i learned).."suspension of disbelief" must be pulled...it's fantasy ..and should be viewed as such.  The acting is adequate the storyis imaginarive and creative it does have a soap opers feel to it but not in a bad way but rather"a good way to push the multi-layered storeies through" ..thats how the big-fantasy-epics story gets pushed on..You call them bad soap opera i calll it "adequate stortyteeling to fit the genre"...in my opinion there is no wat you can create a "truly realistic and believable"  sci-fi fantasy film(s)...ITS FANTASY.......for example  on e of the most recent films that IMO  have nothing fake or unbelievable would be field's in the bedroom..you can't add the "believableness or true reality of that film crossed w/sci-fi fantasy.."..NOW that would be bad if done like that.....

maybe i missunderstood your point when I qouted you but this is what i got out of it ....but to say that GEORGE LUCAS HAS NO TALENT WHAT-SO-EVER IS UNTRUE AND MAKES ONE LOOK BAD SAYING SO...you/everyone/anyone ..should aknowledge this man for what he has done and will do in a medium that we geek out to.......[/i]

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2003, 10:02:33 PM »
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I'm glad you gave your opinion Neon, its just I still disagree. It has nothing with me having problems with the genre or anything, its just I think the movie fails even for the genre and for a good movie. And when I said there was no talent, it wasn't meant for Lucas in general, but all the Star Wars films. I should take that back, though, in a way. Talent is in the special effects for the film. Its just the special effects don't make the movie when I see nothing else there.

A fantasy movie I do dearly love and think of greatness is Princess Mononoke. You could say it is my Star Wars.

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2003, 10:23:19 PM »
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I'm glad you gave your opinion Neon, its just I still disagree. It has nothing with me having problems with the genre or anything, its just I think the movie fails even for the genre and for a good movie. And when I said there was no talent, it wasn't meant for Lucas in general, but all the Star Wars films. I should take that back, though, in a way. Talent is in the special effects for the film. Its just the special effects don't make the movie when I see nothing else there.

A fantasy movie I do dearly love and think of greatness is Princess Mononoke. You could say it is my Star Wars.

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i 'm getting  a better understanding of your point of view now..but i think you may be a little to harsh when you say that the film fails as even a "good" one...?....i  mean if i hated the film(s)..i would still say this:.."even though the story(..or insert what ever negatives you have to say here___________)were bad I got toadmit the imagination of luicas and what he brought to the table...not just in the FX  ares  btu also in the character(s) and the enviroements and the whole"star wars" world he created"..and i hope i don't sound lijke a star wars geek but i just csnn't deny this film of its importsance to me/us......also just to let you know i'm not some lunatic fanboy of star wars i will state that IMO..THAT THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY IS WHAT FANTASY ,EPIC FILMMAKIN IS ALL ABOUT , STAR WARS IN ALL MEASUREMNENTS OF A FILM HAS NOTHING ON THIS TRILOGY..THIS IS THE GRANDEST LIVE-ACTION FANTASY EPIC THAT WILL EVER BE ON SCREEN PARTLY B/C OF PETER JACKSON AND CO.  AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE BOOKS BY TOLKIEN..

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Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2003, 10:36:34 PM »
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You're right. Sometimes to movies that don't even agree with you on general levels, there are other things to look. The FX and ingenuity Lucas had in creating this world for this time is amazing. My view point is bias in the realm of not automatically complementing that because I am very young and from the world of "oh well, every other film looks like it." It is an amazing feat indeed to what Lucas did and as a craftsman, I will give props to that. With that said, I do still see the movie in failure to hold up for me admist all the special effects affairs out there now. Not that it is lesser than the others, but that I don't see the movie very credible in holding up as a story and a movie of quality beyond the technical achievements.

With LOTR though, I see many problems and don't really like the series at all. The first movie was an introduction of characters longer than needed to be and then a series of battles and location change that amounted to only another battle and location change. With my limited ability, from what others told me of themes feasible from the books, the movie has taken the physical narrative and focused more on the battles and what not than on a storyline trying to really capture the possibilities of the novel. All the battles and how they only came to lead to just another really was the worth of one battle and the story could have been about other things. With the second, it saw Frodo start and end in basically the same situation. Little progress when all said and done. I think the movie was just a build up to the final 30 minute battle only. A lil more rewarding than the first movie given it paces itself better in making the last battle more effective because we weren't knocked over the head with it, but its still a long movie for only that. I was underwhelmed and drained.

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