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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2004, 04:50:56 PM »
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so even though the Alien Quadrilogy is a monument of awesome dvdness, we cant nominate it?
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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2004, 04:53:42 PM »
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no... I agree with Jeremy that it's not fair.

Though the only place that's really going to snag is with films like the Indiana Jones Trilogy that is ONLY available as a boxed set.

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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2004, 09:21:39 PM »
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I don't agree with this no box-set thing. DVDs that are sold in box-sets are sold like that for a reason. As a dvd category, we are not judging on the movies individually, but on the product as a whole, specifically the special features. Which ever dvd contains the most-comprehensive special features should be the winner, because the special features are included specifically to help you understand the film better. If it just so happens that a film follows or precedes a film in the series, combining the films in a box set only stands to enhance the understanding of the film and the series as a whole.

When you purchase a box-set, that is the dvd product, and should be judged on its own, not its individual parts.
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Including box sets as a whole gives them an unfair advantage. Like, a Kubrick Collection or a trilogy would probably be better than a given individual movie.


No shit it would be better, that's part of the product. When we're judging dvds, it should be the whole that stands to make it the best selection. Sure, director's box-sets might have grounds to be disqualified because there isn't much of a link between the stories of the films. However, Blue, White, and Red should not be set apart, they are one in the same, they go together. Indiana Jones should not be split up either, the bonus disc is the clincher of the dvd set, you wouldn't vote for Temple of Doom, because you'd be voting based on the film. Would you want us to nominate the bonus disc only? The films are a part of the set. This is really a bad move.
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2004, 09:27:01 PM »
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Red, White, and Blue can all be bought individually.

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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2004, 09:29:04 PM »
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I don't agree with this no box-set thing. DVDs that are sold in box-sets are sold like that for a reason. As a dvd category, we are not judging on the movies individually, but on the product as a whole, specifically the special features.

dude, if ppl can follow that concept it would work, but u know they will end up voting for the movie and not the dvd. just like they got confused about the dekapenticon, voting for their favorite and expecting "the best".

if the ppl can understand that the dvd category means THE DVD AND ITS FEATURES AND HOW IT COMPLIMENTS THE FILM, then sure, by all means vote for box-sets.

but if one vote comes in for a fucking bare-bones dvd of mulholland drive or sumshit, then u will know the ppl aren't ready for this category.
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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2004, 09:40:12 PM »
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No shit it would be better, that's part of the product.


So it's an entirely different product than the normal DVD, isn't it? How could it possibly compete in the same category?
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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2004, 09:41:27 PM »
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Red, White, and Blue can all be bought individually.


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If it just so happens that a film follows or precedes a film in the series, combining the films in a box set only stands to enhance the understanding of the film and the series as a whole.

When you purchase a box-set, that is the dvd product, and should be judged on its own, not its individual parts.


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dude, if ppl can follow that concept it would work, but u know they will end up voting for the movie and not the dvd. just like they got confused about the dekapenticon, voting for their favorite and expecting "the best".


I don't see how this could be that hard to follow. I didn't vote for a certain movie that came out dvd this year, even though it was my favorite film of last year, because its features were awful. I really can't see how people would get confused and vote for their favorite movies that came out on dvd.
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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2004, 09:48:52 PM »
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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2004, 09:50:20 PM »
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No shit it would be better, that's part of the product.


So it's an entirely different product than the normal DVD, isn't it? How could it possibly compete in the same category?


Why are we splitting up box-sets to make things "fair"? It makes no sense to me.

Just as an example: If the Alien Quadrilogy has the best special features, shouldn't it win? Otherwise, by the way you want it to be, you'd have some people voting for Alien or Aliens, the vote would split everywhere, when they all clearly are voting for the same set. If someone thinks a box-set is so good that they're gonna vote for the individual movies of the set, then the set should be seen as one dvd.
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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2004, 10:01:11 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2004, 10:14:16 PM »
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« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2004, 10:15:03 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2004, 10:28:39 PM »
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but if one vote comes in for a fucking bare-bones dvd of mulholland drive or sumshit, then u will know the ppl aren't ready for this category.

i agree.  like, i wont nominate any dvd that comes in standard casing, because if the packaging isnt thought out enough to do something beyond the snapper or the keepcase, than it aint BEST.
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« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2004, 05:46:56 AM »
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Otherwise, by the way you want it to be, you'd have some people voting for Alien or Aliens, the vote would split everywhere, when they all clearly are voting for the same set.

Yes, this is what I agree with especially. Take the Chaplin Collection for example. It was released/advertised as a box set and so I bought it as the first volume of the Collection. Splitting up the 4 films screws up the voting because they all have great features for the set. It's nearly impossible to choose; it comes down to basically choosing which of the 4 Chaplin films you prefer the most because the special features are so good, they're equal to each other.

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« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2004, 08:57:27 AM »
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The Adventures Of Antoine Doinel
Three Colors Trilogy
Fassbinder BRD Trilogy


if those aren't on a "best" dvd list for this year, then a dvd list ain't worth doing

so let's sort it out
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