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« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2003, 10:47:03 AM »
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cool so we're done then.

it's been a pleasure fighting with u.  :yabbse-thumbup:
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« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2003, 10:48:45 AM »
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Hehehe. It wasn't a fight, was it? I thought it was a momentary miscommunication. Now, if some cock came on here and started shit-talking Scarface, saying it isn't a good movie... well, THEN we'd see a fight!
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« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2003, 01:27:05 PM »
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Well, if black people get Scarface, then I'm going to bankroll a re-release of Carlito's Way.  So there.  And I'll have Bill Gates do an interview about how the movie influenced him.

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« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2003, 01:37:20 PM »
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actually, I was told by the same rap-loving buddy who gushed about Scarface, that hip-hop culture digs Carlito just as much. They always wanna say the "... die big time" line.

But we do need a re-release of that, too.
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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« Reply #64 on: July 18, 2003, 01:38:50 PM »
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But we do need a re-release of that [Carlito's Way], too.


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« Reply #65 on: July 18, 2003, 04:09:41 PM »
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It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

Darn MTV land. Does anyone know what De Palma thinks and will Oliver Stone have any segments on it ?
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« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2003, 04:23:55 PM »
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It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

Darn MTV land. Does anyone know what De Palma thinks and will Oliver Stone have any segments on it ?


So perfect. Yes. I was thinking the same thing. Thank you for posting that. Although, P did make a good point, and if rappers really love the movie for what he said, then I think it's a great reason, but still... I have strong doubts that all such folks are so level-headed. I'm not sure if this thing is geared towards fans of rap, but if it is, it would seem quite a strange slant, considering there are many many non-rap fans who also love the flick.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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« Reply #67 on: July 18, 2003, 08:48:55 PM »
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It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

wow u really hate rap.

does scarface hav any rappers in it? is it about hip hop?

do u realise how stupid and goddamn idiotic ur comparison to rapists and real criminals is?

i wonder if anyone here really knows wtf the entertainment industry is.
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« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2003, 01:24:42 AM »
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i wonder if anyone here really knows wtf the entertainment industry is.


I do!  It's an on-going disappointment.

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« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2003, 11:34:40 AM »
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It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

Darn MTV land. Does anyone know what De Palma thinks and will Oliver Stone have any segments on it ?


Clearly (as was posted earlier) De Palma doesn't give a flying fuck.  And we could only be so fortunate as to have a Stone seg in the set.  :(
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« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2003, 11:53:24 AM »
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Uh, no mog.  If he gave a fuck he'd have included that commentary (which I do have by the way) on the new special edition. ;)
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« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2003, 12:06:41 PM »
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I don't think it there's a existing commentary, I tried find any details about a commentary on the laserdisc version without any results. If there exists one I think it's a matter of copyrights.


Nope. My laserdisc didn't have a commentary track. Same extras as the DVD. I believe De Palma hasn't done a commentary track for any of his films.
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« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2003, 11:10:27 AM »
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Has anybody else seen the wonderful artwork for the Hawk's version they're giving in the boxset ? Everything about it is just so fucking hilarious...

Watch for the wonderful tagline and the Darkman ripoff in the title. I guess this is the Tony Hawk version, not the Howard... What's next ? A Metropolis reissue with colors and a Moroder score ? (oops,they've done that already...) I just wish some companies didn't think DVD buyers were morons.

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« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2003, 01:56:44 PM »
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Anyone seen this one?



No, but yesterday I nearly ordered the porn-version of Scarface. I thought it was the real deal, and only 50 DkKr. But 'luckely' I found out in time!

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« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2003, 04:07:20 PM »
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No, but yesterday I nearly ordered the porn-version of Scarface. I thought it was the real deal, and only 50 DkKr. But 'luckely' I found out in time!

if i hadn't spent all my money on this great great new power suply i would most defently be getting this.

how can you even afford to save 50 kr instead of getting  this beautiful piece of adult culture?

 

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