Again, I want to emphasize that these are relatively minor complaints
. I just find it interesting to talk about them.
as portrayed in the film, there's a lax attitude towards teenagers having sex amongst certain families in manchester
Sure, that's fine. The first girlfriend's parents did not have that attitude, though.
i don't think the scene with the mother "almost catching them" was about that at all. it's pretty obvious what's going on and she clearly knows, she just isn't going to flip out about it. kids always think they're getting away with shit that parents can see right through. this is very true to life to me.
I meant to say "interrupt" rather than "catch." So here's what I was getting at. I sincerely don't understand what she's trying to accomplish by messing with them. The coincidence of her interrupting them to complain about Lee (when they were just about to start) felt way too wacky for this movie.
(The obvious explanation is that she does that to create a funny scene for us.)
If she tacitly approves but is not entirely comfortable with it, why would she be constantly going to her daughter's room to put herself in that uncomfortable situation? Is she grappling with the reality and acting out because she doesn't know what to do? Maybe.
On the other hand, if she is comfortable with them having sex, just leave them alone. Does she get some kind of perverted thrill out of interrupting them? Those scenes are kind of dumb. This is what I'm talking about when I say the first half was perfect and powerful, then the movie wanders and gets less incisive as it experiments.
also patrick's behavior in the wake of his dad's passing is a bit unsettling but also probably very true to life.
I loved many of the scenes with him acting out or freaking out, especially the scene with the freezer. The only behavior of his that actually unsettles me was present before his dad's death (being a pathological liar to his 2 girlfriends). The only thing that solves that is cultural relativism. Which is a perfectly valid choice to make when watching a movie.
your reaction to the particular details you got hung up on are completely your own, and on you. you and everyone in the world are entitled to react to whatever it is in a movie however you like, but that isn't always the fault of the work itself.
I basically agree. It probably comes down to this: The first half (or even 2/3) is the kind of movie I love and wanted to see. The second part, not as much.