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The Revenant
« on: July 17, 2015, 07:19:59 PM »
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The frontiersman, Hugh Glass, who in the 1820s set out on a path of vengeance against those who left him for dead after a bear mauling.

Directed by Alejandro González Iñárritu
Written by Alejandro González Iñárritu and Mark L. Smith (based on the Michael Punke Novel)
Starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hardy and Domnhall Gleeson



Lots of set stories about Iñárritu from this one.

Also read about earlier incarnations of this project in another thread; John Hillcoat with Christian Bale, Park Chan-wook with Samuel L. Jackson.

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2015, 07:49:22 PM »
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That trailer may be the most visually stunning thing I've ever seen. Legitimately awe-inspiring in the way that James Cameron thinks Avatar was.
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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2015, 09:18:07 PM »
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Yeah, this looks amazing. What kind of lens trickery is happening here? It it just a closeup IMAX effect? There's a slight fisheye or something.

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2015, 10:19:27 PM »
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Yeah, this looks amazing. What kind of lens trickery is happening here? It it just a closeup IMAX effect? There's a slight fisheye or something.

(I can't abide the Avatar hate, though.)

It looks like it's just a short lens. I've noticed that in the Malick movies that Lubezski shot, and also in his still photography (https://instagram.com/chivexp), he favors using one short lens (seems like maybe around 20mm) to shoot everything. They are traditionally used for landscape, and aren't quite fish-eye, but have a bit of that effect when filming something up close. What it means is that if you want a close up, you have to get the camera physically close to the subject. Most movies use longer lenses for close ups. This movie (as with the recent Malick movies) uses all natural light. So basically the approach is to shoot the way still photographers shoot, working with the natural light and seeking images by putting the camera in the right place to capture an image that works as an image. Cinematographers are generally trained to turn off that constantly-hunting eye that still photographers rely on, in exchange for controlled setups and more typical shots that can be safely edited together and "feel like a movie."

This was also shot on the new Alexa 65, which is supposed to be like shooting on 65mm film (like THE MASTER). It means the sensor is actually much larger, and demands medium format lenses, which is also more typical of still landscape photography. They are also stopping down a lot, which means that everything is sharp/in focus, as opposed to the usual out-of-focus background. It makes for a striking look. But it's definitely coming from the work he's done with Malick and pushed to a new level with the Alberta landscape and larger action, and also clearly more planned out shots than the shooting-from-the-hip that Malick favors.

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2015, 11:12:01 PM »
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yea it feels really close to malick's style, but obviously with a much more traditional narrative and characterizations. i'm excited!

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2015, 10:11:45 AM »
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that instagram account is so cheesy.


i find it odd that as a filmmaker he's basically a genius but his still photographs are very dumb.

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2015, 01:24:44 PM »
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Yeah, this looks amazing. What kind of lens trickery is happening here? It it just a closeup IMAX effect? There's a slight fisheye or something.

(I can't abide the Avatar hate, though.)

It looks like it's just a short lens. I've noticed that in the Malick movies that Lubezski shot, and also in his still photography (https://instagram.com/chivexp), he favors using one short lens (seems like maybe around 20mm) to shoot everything. They are traditionally used for landscape, and aren't quite fish-eye, but have a bit of that effect when filming something up close. What it means is that if you want a close up, you have to get the camera physically close to the subject. Most movies use longer lenses for close ups. This movie (as with the recent Malick movies) uses all natural light. So basically the approach is to shoot the way still photographers shoot, working with the natural light and seeking images by putting the camera in the right place to capture an image that works as an image. Cinematographers are generally trained to turn off that constantly-hunting eye that still photographers rely on, in exchange for controlled setups and more typical shots that can be safely edited together and "feel like a movie."

This was also shot on the new Alexa 65, which is supposed to be like shooting on 65mm film (like THE MASTER). It means the sensor is actually much larger, and demands medium format lenses, which is also more typical of still landscape photography. They are also stopping down a lot, which means that everything is sharp/in focus, as opposed to the usual out-of-focus background. It makes for a striking look. But it's definitely coming from the work he's done with Malick and pushed to a new level with the Alberta landscape and larger action, and also clearly more planned out shots than the shooting-from-the-hip that Malick favors.

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Re: The Revenant
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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2015, 12:21:42 PM »
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Official Trailer Released



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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2015, 02:47:48 PM »
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if this doesn't win Best Cinematography well i can't wait to see the movie that wins Best Cinematography.

where we're at on that is the dp, Emmanuel Lubezki, did indeed win last year, for Birdman, and the year before that, for Gravity, and he was first nominated for A Little Princess in 1995, he's been nominated seven times, talking Oscars here, and in my opinion and in the opinion of cinematic culture since its creation another important and vital contribution from him was for Tree of Life, for which he was nominated but did not win, and if that sounds absurd well who won was Robert Richardson for Hugo, which i think is a gorgeous movie so ok, Robert Richardson this year having shot Hateful Eight on his own fancy camera.

Lubezki could win Best Cinematography three years in a row, since he's going to at least be nominated or no one's ever again going to be able to take the Oscars any bit seriously. this being a visual art and Leo being the star, there is too the possibility of Iñárritu winning best picture two years in a row, although i wouldn't guess this will win best picture, based on me guessing, it's still inarguable that his career has become the brilliant and impressive career prophesied by his debut Amores Perros. represent.

the side note here is the co-writer also wrote Vacancy, which to me is a wonderful and delightful connection, similar to Abrams having written Forever Young and Joy Ride before he became Abrams.
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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2015, 10:38:06 PM »
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I keep coming back to the trailers because Lubezki a god. I remember when I first saw the trailers, I was blown away but there was a (somewhat intangible) quality to the cinematography I wasn't used to. It kinda made sense when I hooked it up to the TV and watched them again where the visuals were much more affecting.
It is very, very striking. Obviously the (digital 65mm) format contributes to it, it has a strangely natural and 'present/lifelike' look to it. A lot of period films have a sort of 'period look', an aged look which evokes the era in which the film was set in. But this ignores that, its crystal clarity and sense of motion gives it a look which I don't think I've truly come across in cinema before but it also reminds me of images I've seen in National Geographic. I guess Malick kinda pioneered this stuff in The New World with Lubezki (but his modern style is evident in TTRL) but I think The Revenant really is something else. Can't wait to see it on the big screen.
Anyway, that's the best I can do to express what I'm seeing. Matt nailed it a lot of it already.

Any other films that have done something similar/shared this look?

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2015, 06:17:44 PM »
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A sublime western classic. Besides the visuals and the revisionist outlook, the whole thing had the feel of an epic 50s Hollywood film to me. My favourite ever Tom Hardy performance. Bear wasn't bad either.

Would make a perfect double-feature with The New World.


This is going to make Cormac McCarthy fans all across the 8th continent pray that the Blood Meridian rights are handed to Inarritu.


'The Revenant' ain't a bad name, but it should really be called 'Jammy Bastard'. Or 'amores bearos' maybe...

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2015, 06:07:17 AM »
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The Revenant es no bueno.

the bear attack is pretty amazing and tom hardy hams it up in the best possible way.  there isn't much to like outside of that.  lubezki's work is characteristically gorgeous (superficially, anyway), but innaritu's sensibility robs it of any real power.  it's all the imagery of malick without any of the poetry.  double featuring this movie with The New World would make it feel like more of a waste of time than it already is.  self-aggrandized verisimilitude and silly attempts at lyricism nullify each other so as to render the whole thing an incredible bore.  absolutely hated the score--blunt, on-the-nose, intrusive.  and why does domhnall (what a dumb fucking name) gleeson keep getting work? 

hugh glass's actual story is far more fascinating and pregnant with possible meaning and greater potential for mythologizing than what the film offers up.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Glass

loved the nod to ace ventura 2.

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2015, 06:38:39 AM »
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domhnall (what a dumb fucking name)

It's Gaelic...  :yabbse-rolleyes: ...just another form of 'Donald'...


It's not a faddy, new age, made up name like 'Chardonnay' or 'Ferrari' or 'Branch' or something, just a common name in a language you're apparently totally ignorant of. Probably up to 50% of Irish people have names like that.

It's like someone ignorant of Spanish saying a name like Javier or Pablo is 'fucking dumb'.

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Re: The Revenant
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2015, 10:44:27 AM »
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Okay that was the weirdest fight I've seen on here in a while. I moved 4 posts. Let's be nice!
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