Is there a thread for Short Term 12?
I saw it and felt very meh about it, like an absolute indie sundance bait movie, complete with a ludicrous (SPOILER) car destroying scene at the near end. (END OF SPOILER).
idk but anyway i'm always off the rail, so real quick: isn't the car scene some rolling thunder? as in, a totally justifiable action against a completely despicable character. that's how i see it. i'd like to hear what you mean by "ludicrous" and "sundance bait." maybe you see it as rolling thunder but still don't like it. that's how i felt about nebraska's punch
SPOILERS FOR BOTH ST12 AND FRUITVALE STATION.
I saw the film as reasonably logic and centered in some sort of documentary like reality (as far as portraying the efforts of these guys to give the kids some hope for the future) until that scene, which felt more like a moment for the audience to cheer than a logical step to be taken by that character in that situation. not to mention there's absolutely not real consequences for the guy who she did this to, or her, or anyone. the sundance bait comment, snarky as it is, has to do with the subject matter, the handheld (and uncreative) camerawork, the artificial slacker niceness of every young social worker and what felt to me like a general superficiality. it just seemed like this universe is way more difficult than what is shown, but it's better to have a feel good movie about it.
fruitvale station had kind of the same problem for me. why is every scene about how this guy is DETERMINED to be a new man? he acts as if he's been the nicest human being all his life. you wonder how did he ever got into such trouble. when he throws away his stash of pot (with us knowing he's broke and owes rent and shit), and when he pets the dying dog, it just felt way too dedicated to the bulding of the character as a complete tragic case. however, I know that when people say "today i'll be a new man" is because they have a long history of being assholes, trainwrecks and dangerous individuals. you never feel that in the movie. it reminded me of tom hanks in road to perdition, where he is supposed to be a ruthless hitman for the mob and all you see is this super nice dad sacrificing himself for his son. only there it made more sense because it was told from the point of view of the son. this was just a filmmaker putting all his energy in leaving no doubt of the character's goodness, manipulating the audience into the thought: "man, if only he had the rest of his life to live, he was going to be a great man".