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Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 12, 2005, 09:24:23 PM
NOMINATE THE 2005 XIXAX AWARDS (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=7152&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=11)

Attention!

Nominating for the 2005 Xixax Awards will begin this Saturday (January 15) and will end the following Friday (January 21).

So now is a good time to think of movies from 2004 that you want to nominate. We can also work out any potential issues. For example, Dogville is eligible this year.

We plan to have nominations and awards announced immediately preceding the Oscar nominations and awards.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Stefen on January 12, 2005, 09:26:43 PM
Ohhh that time!!! I'm stoked. Super stoked.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Gamblour. on January 12, 2005, 11:43:46 PM
How's the dvd category going to work this year? Will there be a boxset category this time?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 12, 2005, 11:54:14 PM
Can't we wait til March? I hate nominating from just half the field. Some of us really are limited in what movies we can see and really have to go out of our way to not be totally lost in craze of new films.

Also, let it be known that I want the film The Son (Jean Pierre and Luc Dardenne) to be considered for the 2004 ballot. True, the film had a release in the United States as early as 2002 and likely even earlier (I think its premiere was at the New York Film Festival in '01). Its just that its largest theatrical release extended to just a few name cities at once and for barely any time at each place. It had nothing of the scope of a proper release and shown so sporadically that theatrically it played in even 2004 in Milwaukee. Thus I think this film's proper release is its DVD release which was in 2004 and gave everyone a fair chance to see it. Also, I think Songs From the Second Floor should be allowed in under this rule as it finally got released last year. True, I may be the only person nominating these films, but they should be noted still.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on January 13, 2005, 12:04:44 AM
Did PTA release anything this year that I can vote for?

:lol:

Sorry. Had to do that.

Tough call for me between Sideways and Million Dollar Baby..
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 13, 2005, 12:08:34 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Tough call for me between Sideways and Million Dollar Baby..

Remember, though, when you nominate you can have 5 per category.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Fernando on January 13, 2005, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Tough call for me between Sideways and Million Dollar Baby..

Remember, though, when you nominate you can have 5 per category.


I assume categories will be the same of last year, will they?

And I'm also with GT, I haven't seen the following films cause they haven't been released here: Aviator, Huckabees, Million Dollar Baby, Sideways, Closer, Finding Neverland, Kinsey, Birth, Vera Drake, The Sea Inside, House of Flying Daggers, A Very Long Engagement, H. Rwanda, etc.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: pete on January 13, 2005, 12:32:45 PM
can't we wait 'til last life in the universe comes out on the dvd?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: RegularKarate on January 13, 2005, 02:55:54 PM
I Wanna wait until Cinema Obscura gets released.  True, it won't be released until 2007 and that's just in Japan, but I think it should be considered a 2004 release so I can vote for it.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: pete on January 13, 2005, 03:13:07 PM
now you're just confusing the issues by being a craphead.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 13, 2005, 03:23:36 PM
I VOTE MAURA TIERNEY
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 15, 2005, 04:02:23 PM
It's time to vote for the 2005 Xixax Awards nominations!

Send your votes in through PM, following all the rules. The deadline is Friday January 21.


THE RULES:

you have to
1. vote privately:
. . . .If your username begins begins with A-F (or #), send your ballot to MacGuffin (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=9)
. . . .If your username begins begins with G-K, send your ballot to Jeremy Blackman (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=21)
. . . .If your username begins begins with L-Q, send your ballot to RegularKarate (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=63)
. . . .If your username begins begins with R-Z, send your ballot to cinephile (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=280)
2. copy the form provided below and paste it into your PM
3. only list the movie in each category, not the person who would win (unless it's an acting category)
4. specify the actor and movie (for the acting categories), like this: Actor - "Movie"
5. use the most common title with foreign films (ask if you're not sure)
6.  use full titles ("Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring" instead of "LOTR: FOTR")
7. (for the DVD category) specify the original theatrical release date if there are different versions or remakes (for example, Ocean's 11)
8. nominate titles in alphabetical order
9. title your PM "xixax awards 2005" (please!)

you should
1. be honest
2. vote from personal opinion (and not consensus)

you can't
1. nominate more than 5 movies per category
2. send more than one ballot
3. vote from different memberships
4. make your nominations with caps lock on
5. nominate publicly
6. put "the" before anything
7. change your ballot (after January 21)

you can
1. nominate fewer than 5 (whatever you're comfortable with)
2. nominate box sets in the Best DVD Release category



copy and paste....

BEST FILM
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 BEST DIRECTOR
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 BEST FEMALE PERFORMANCE
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 BEST MALE PERFORMANCE
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 BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE PERFORMANCE
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 BEST SUPPORTING MALE PERFORMANCE
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 BEST SCREENPLAY
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 BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
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 BEST ORIGINAL MUSIC
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 BEST EDITING
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 BEST SOUND
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 BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
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 BEST DEBUT FILM
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 BEST DOCUMENTARY
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 BEST DVD RELEASE
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Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 15, 2005, 04:15:18 PM
If there are any eligibility questions, ask them here.

I know it's been a while for most of our international members, but Dogville is eligible this year.

Remember the difference between leading performances and supporting performances. If there are several similarly weighted roles in a movie, they can all be called leading. A supporting role is truly subordinate, somewhere between "cameo" and "leading."

In Collateral, Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise are both leading.

In Kill Bill Vol. 2, Uma Thurman is leading and everyone else is supporting.

In Garden State, Zach Braff and Natalie Portman are both leading.

If anything else is ambigious, ask here and we'll try to clear it up. Or make an argument if you think certain actors are leading or supporting.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 15, 2005, 04:21:26 PM
For director, actor, etc. do you want like, say "Ed Wood" or "Wood, Ed?"  (Asking because I'm also wondering if you want these alphabetical too?)
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 15, 2005, 04:51:28 PM
Quote from: wantautopia?
For director, actor, etc.

You don't have to name any directors. Only name actors.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: picolas on January 15, 2005, 06:57:52 PM
Thomas Haden Church: sup or lead?
Owen Wilson (Aq): sup or lead?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Gamblour. on January 16, 2005, 12:08:12 AM
All of the actors and actresses in Closer? Whose leading in that? All of them?
Kate Winslet in Eternal Sunshine?

Quote from: wantautopia?
For director, actor, etc. do you want like, say "Ed Wood" or "Wood, Ed?"  (Asking because I'm also wondering if you want these alphabetical too?)


He didn't answer your question....I'm wondering too

Also, what about the Shaun of the Dead director? IMDb lists him as having some 70 minute movie ten years ago, then he went to TV, does that POS count? Can't we make this his debut?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 16, 2005, 12:57:53 AM
Quote from: picolas
Thomas Haden Church: sup or lead?
Owen Wilson (Aq): sup or lead?

Sup &
Sup

Quote from: Gamblor
All of the actors and actresses in Closer? Whose leading in that? All of them?
Kate Winslet in Eternal Sunshine?

Winslet is leading in ES. As for the Closer actors.. I'm not sure what we're doing with that.

As for Closer.. I'll say this is going to be debatable. I referred to the Oscar campaign and it lists Law as lead, Owen and Portman as supporting and I didn't find anything on Roberts but I'd like to think she was supporting too with Law being the center of the story.


And as for "Ed Wood" or "Wood, Ed" .. don't be fancy.. stick to "Ed Wood".. and in alphabetical order would be nice!
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 16, 2005, 01:02:13 AM
Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.
Quote from: wantautopia?
For director, actor, etc. do you want like, say "Ed Wood" or "Wood, Ed?"  (Asking because I'm also wondering if you want these alphabetical too?)


He didn't answer your question....I'm wondering too

Sorry about the confusion... MacGuffin answered that part, but I guess it was deleted. For actors (we need names only when we're dealing with actors) write "Owen Wilson" and alphabetize by last name.

Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.
Shaun of the Dead . . . Can't we make this his debut?

Sounds good to me, unless anyone objects.

Quote from: cinephile
Quote from: picolas
Thomas Haden Church: sup or lead?
Owen Wilson (Aq): sup or lead?

Sup &
Sup

I strongly disagree about Church. I'd argue that he's a lead. The two guys in Sideways are leads, and everyone else is supporting. Doesn't that make sense?

I agree about Wilson, though. Can we say that Bill Murray was the lead in The Life Aquatic and everyone else is supporting?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: picolas on January 16, 2005, 01:08:06 AM
what about sups and leads and huckabees?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 16, 2005, 01:16:03 AM
Quote from: picolas
what about leads and sups in huckabees?

That's a really tough one. Any opinions?

I really want to say that Jason Schwartzman, Mark Wahlberg, Jude Law, Naomi Watts, Dustin Hoffman, Lily Tomlin, and Isabelle Huppert are all leads. They're more or less equal.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 16, 2005, 01:18:58 AM
There's no freakin' way Isabelle Huppert is a lead in Huckabees.

that is all.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 16, 2005, 01:22:07 AM
This is the question... in an ensemble movie, is everyone a lead actor or is everyone a supporting actor?

And haven't we agreed that our definition of "lead" is expansive?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 16, 2005, 01:26:08 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
This is the question... in an ensemble movie, is everyone a lead actor or is everyone a supporting actor?

And haven't we agreed that our definition of "lead" is expansive?

It's an ensemble movie but the center of the film is Schwartzman so his role would be worth a lead nod while the others get supporting.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 16, 2005, 01:48:14 AM
Quote from: cinephile
It's an ensemble movie but the center of the film is Schwartzman so his role would be worth a lead nod while the others get supporting.

I'd argue that Schwartzman is the starting point, but the film has no center... it's a web of connections (the blanket!). Plus, considering the wide expanse between the Xixax meaning of "lead" and the Xixax meaning of "supporting," how can you put Schwartzman that far above the others?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Sleuth on January 16, 2005, 02:18:57 AM
CANCEL IT
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 16, 2005, 02:26:44 AM
NO DON'T YOU CAN STILL WIN!
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 16, 2005, 03:13:54 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
I'd argue that Schwartzman is the starting point, but the film has no center... it's a web of connections (the blanket!). Plus, considering the wide expanse between the Xixax meaning of "lead" and the Xixax meaning of "supporting," how can you put Schwartzman that far above the others?

I don't know, but at this rate, half the voters have lost interest in figuring this all out.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ębrad on January 16, 2005, 10:35:17 AM
Quote from: cinephile
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
I'd argue that Schwartzman is the starting point, but the film has no center... it's a web of connections (the blanket!). Plus, considering the wide expanse between the Xixax meaning of "lead" and the Xixax meaning of "supporting," how can you put Schwartzman that far above the others?

I don't know, but at this rate, half the voters have lost interest in figuring this all out.


why not just put them all as supporting? wouldn't that be the easiest?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on January 16, 2005, 11:43:27 AM
guys, guys, nobody will be voting for that movie anyways!  that'd be like saying "is sharon stone supporting or leading in catwoman?"   :laughing:
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 18, 2005, 12:05:24 AM
Hopefully this clears things up. Vote away!


Closer
LEADING: Jude Law, Clive Owen, Natalie Portman, Julia Roberts

Collateral
LEADING: Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Dogville
LEADING: Nicole Kidman, Paul Bettany
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
LEADING: Jim Carrey, Kate Winslet
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Garden State
LEADING: Zach Braff, Natalie Portman
SUPPORTING: everyone else

I Heart Huckabees
LEADING: Jason Schwartzman, Mark Wahlberg, Jude Law, Naomi Watts, Dustin Hoffman, Lily Tomlin, Isabelle Huppert
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Kill Bill Vol. 2
LEADING: Uma Thurman
SUPPORTING: everyone else

The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou
LEADING: Bill Murray
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Ocean's Twelve
LEADING: Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Catherine Zeta-Jones
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Sideways
LEADING: Paul Giamatti, Thomas Hayden Church
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Catwoman
LEADING: Halle Berry, Sharon Stone
SUPPORTING: The French guy from The Matrix Reloaded.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SHAFTR on January 18, 2005, 12:51:55 AM
I'm not a big fan of all the leading.  Most of the people I would vote for, in supporting, are listed as leading.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 18, 2005, 01:01:22 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
I'm not a big fan of all the leading.  Most of the people I would vote for, in supporting, are listed as leading.

It's really a misnomer, though. We don't have a "leading" category. We have "best performances" and "best supporting performances." I think we've been trying to move away from the single lead idea, because so many movies (especially those listed above) have a pair or a triangle of characters that dominate. Our "supporting" categories are meant to be small.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SoNowThen on January 18, 2005, 02:53:26 PM
Those categories, as far as I can tell, are perfect.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SHAFTR on January 18, 2005, 04:30:52 PM
Is Million Dollar baby on the ballot for this year?  I know, technically it is, but the truth is very few of us will have seen it by the time initial nominations are decided.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 18, 2005, 05:00:03 PM
Yes, which is why it's still a bit early for nominations to be taken.  A lot of the best/most anticipated films are still making their ways around.  The Oscars aren't for another month, at least.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on January 18, 2005, 05:31:58 PM
are we supposed to vote already?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 18, 2005, 05:38:07 PM
No, currently nominations are due Friday (see the first page).
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on January 18, 2005, 05:38:40 PM
When it gets down to voting, it's hard to recall the movies that came out in 2004 and not 2003, and just recap the entire year without leaving something out...
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: life_boy on January 18, 2005, 05:42:49 PM
Has there ever been any thought given to adding a 'Best Ensamble Casting' or 'Outstanding Performance by a Cast' to the awards?


Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Hopefully this clears things up. Vote away!


Closer
LEADING: Jude Law, Clive Owen, Natalie Portman, Julia Roberts

Collateral
LEADING: Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Dogville
LEADING: Nicole Kidman, Paul Bettany
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
LEADING: Jim Carrey, Kate Winslet
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Garden State
LEADING: Zach Braff, Natalie Portman
SUPPORTING: everyone else

I Heart Huckabees
LEADING: Jason Schwartzman, Mark Wahlberg, Jude Law, Naomi Watts, Dustin Hoffman, Lily Tomlin, Isabelle Huppert
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Kill Bill Vol. 2
LEADING: Uma Thurman
SUPPORTING: everyone else

The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou
LEADING: Bill Murray
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Ocean's Twelve
LEADING: Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Catherine Zeta-Jones
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Sideways
LEADING: Paul Giamatti, Thomas Hayden Church
SUPPORTING: everyone else

Catwoman
LEADING: Halle Berry, Sharon Stone
SUPPORTING: The French guy from The Matrix Reloaded.


So, when in doubt...it's a leading performance.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: MacGuffin on January 18, 2005, 06:12:53 PM
Quote from: life_boy
So, when in doubt...it's a leading performance.


The admins will sort if out when we count, but...

WE WANT EVERYONE'S NOMINATIONS!!!
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on January 18, 2005, 09:58:28 PM
I feel like I'll leave something out... is there a list of all the movies that came out in 2004 that I could look at to help refresh my memory?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on January 18, 2005, 10:21:44 PM
http://movieweb.com/movies/releases/year.php?2004

thats one.  just skimming 100 other 'best of' lists and your tix stubs, dvd shelf is another way.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 18, 2005, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: wantautopia?
Yes, which is why it's still a bit early for nominations to be taken.  A lot of the best/most anticipated films are still making their ways around.  The Oscars aren't for another month, at least.

The Xixax Awards have always directly preceded the Oscars. This year, Oscar nominations will be announced January 25 (a week from today).
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: life_boy on January 19, 2005, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Walrus
I feel like I'll leave something out... is there a list of all the movies that came out in 2004 that I could look at to help refresh my memory?


Academy Awards Eligible Nominees Reminder List (http://www.oscars.org/77academyawards/reminder/reminder_print.html)

Note that the list is only for films eligible for Academy Award nominations, not for every film released in 2004.  But, it is a helpful guide for digging up some forgotten films from earlier in the year.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 19, 2005, 11:29:42 AM
For people who want to see Million Dollar Baby on its Friday wide release, we're extending the nominations deadline to Sunday 9 PM Central.

And we need more votes!

Remember, you can send a partial ballot if you only want to vote for some things. That's perfectly fine!
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SoNowThen on January 19, 2005, 03:15:23 PM
I won't get to see Sideways or Life Aquatic 'til after this first round, so, uh, whoever thinks those are worthwhile movies, please bang the drum for them so in case I love them I'll get a chance to vote for them in the finals.

Thanks and stuff.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: socketlevel on January 20, 2005, 04:14:45 PM
is there anywhere that i can see a list of films that came out last year?  i feel like i'm missing something and it will help me to see stuff that i haven't even considered yet.

-sl-
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 20, 2005, 05:54:12 PM
I still have problems. I've seen a lot of the films in question, but even if I were to make even a top 10 list right now, i'd have only around seven films I'd even qualify as worthy for a top ten list. I just don't understand why we have to have this before the academy awards. Maybe if everyone here had the same priveleges of seeing all the films the way academy voters do, then I'd understand. Its just all of us don't and worst, some of us are really restricted. Million Dollar Baby does open wide this friday and for me, that means its distance away is excess of only 4 hours instead of the 6 hours before.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: matt35mm on January 20, 2005, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Million Dollar Baby does open wide this friday and for me, that means its distance away is excess of only 4 hours instead of the 6 hours before.

I know, same here.  What the eff?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on January 22, 2005, 12:54:28 PM
How many ballots in total do you have so far?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: MacGuffin on January 22, 2005, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: Walrus Shakur
How many ballots in total do you have so far?


Put it this way, it's like a baseball team voted for the All Stars, instead of the fans.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 23, 2005, 05:43:29 AM
John Kerry says:

(http://nandotimes.nandomedia.com/ips_rich_content/664-kerry1_1.jpg)

"Every...vote...counts!"

Race out and see those movies, guys!
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 23, 2005, 05:49:14 AM
George W. Bush says:

(http://www.satirewire.com/news/feb02/images/bush.jpg)

"Now why do they call them movies?"
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Sleuth on January 23, 2005, 08:32:25 PM
I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF IF THE XIXAX AWARDS ARE NOT CANCELLED
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on January 24, 2005, 04:18:15 AM
I voted.

Didn't get out as much as I would have liked to see everything this year.

:oops:
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 24, 2005, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: life_boy
So, when in doubt...it's a leading performance.


The admins will sort if out when we count, but...

WE WANT EVERYONE'S NOMINATIONS!!!


I noticed that my noms didn't follow the rules exactly (concerning lead and supporting).  Are the admins still going to sort this out?  Should I resubmit?

I know it's too late, but is "Touching the Void" cosidered a drama or a documentary?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 24, 2005, 12:42:26 PM
Quote from: Pwaybloe
I know it's too late, but is "Touching the Void" cosidered a drama or a documentary?

Documentary. The only problem mixing the lead and supporting is that sometimes it split the vote.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: pete on January 24, 2005, 02:02:28 PM
I still think Jeremy Blackman added that French chick to the "leads" in Huckabees because he's fucking in love with that movie.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 24, 2005, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: Pwaybloe
I noticed that my noms didn't follow the rules exactly (concerning lead and supporting).  Are the admins still going to sort this out?  Should I resubmit?

Don't worry about it. Just do better next time. Every vote will be counted!
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SHAFTR on January 25, 2005, 12:31:12 AM
Put the noms up, I'm excited.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 25, 2005, 01:06:22 AM
THE RESULTS ARE IN.

Important: Do Not Vote Yet[/b]. We'll get to that soon...



BEST FILM
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Kill Bill Vol. 2
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Sideways

BEST DIRECTOR
Michel Gondry  - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Michael Mann - Collateral
Alexander Payne - Sideways
Martin Scorsese - The Aviator
Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill Vol. 2

BEST FEMALE PERFORMANCE
Catalina Sandino Moreno - Maria Full of Grace
Natalie Portman - Closer
Hillary Swank - Million Dollar Baby
Uma Thurman - Kill Bill Vol. 2
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

BEST MALE PERFORMANCE
Jim Carrey - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Leonardo DiCaprio - The Aviator
Jamie Foxx - Ray
Paul Giamatti - Sideways
Clive Owen - Closer

BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE PERFORMANCE
Cate Blanchett - The Aviator
Kirsten Dunst - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Laura Linney - Kinsey
Virginia Madsen - Sideways
Darryl Hannah - Kill Bill Vol. 2

BEST SUPPORTING MALE PERFORMANCE
David Carradine - Kill Bill Vol. 2
Willem Dafoe - The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou
Morgan Freeman - Million Dollar Baby
Mark Ruffalo - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Peter Sarsgaard - Kinsey

BEST SCREENPLAY
The Aviator
Before Sunset
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
Sideways

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
The Aviator
Collateral
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Hero
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou

BEST ORIGINAL MUSIC
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zizou
Sideways

BEST EDITING
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
Kill Bill Vol. 2
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou

BEST SOUND
The Aviator
Collateral
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Kill Bill Vol. 2
Spider-Man 2

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Aviator
The Day After Tomorrow
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2

BEST DEBUT FILM
Garden State
Napoleon Dynamite
Shaun of the Dead
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Tarnation

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Control Room
Fahrenheit 9/11
Super Size Me
Tarnation
Touching the Void

BEST DVD RELEASE
John Cassavetes: Five Films (Criterion Collection)
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Extended Edition)
Short Cuts (Criterion Collection)
Star Wars Trilogy
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on January 25, 2005, 09:23:58 AM
ew, no incredibles and shaun of the dead only for 'debut'?   :yabbse-angry:

also: i'm surprised that with all the before sunset love going around here it wasnt up for like.... A LOT more.  as in, the freaking ACADEMY AWARDS have recognized the film exactly as much as we have....once.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: life_boy on January 25, 2005, 09:54:47 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
also: i'm surprised that with all the before sunset love going around here it wasnt up for like.... A LOT more.


With all the seeming disappointment over Life Aquatic I'm surprised to see it under Best Picture.  You never can tell with these sorts of things.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 25, 2005, 10:15:19 AM
I know 'xaxers love Anderson and all, but Life Aquatic wasn't one of the best pics of the year.  Neither was Kibblev2.  Oh well.  And no love for any of the technical aspects of A Very Long Engagement, either, which is unfortunate.  Not to mention The Dreamers got totally ignored.  At least we CAN say the Best Picture nominations are definitely representative of the prevailing tastes here.

Before Sunset got recognized for screenplay, as it should have, because that was the best part about it.  I wouldn't have minded seeing Delpy get acting recognition, but there were so many other great performances too.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on January 25, 2005, 10:26:07 AM
Many of my options were selected... and some werent and then replaced by something stupid like Kirsten Dunst for Best Supporting in Eternal Sunshine, when she almost did nothing... and The Life Aquatic earning so many nominations... also the Seinfeld DVD is one of the best DVDs ever made (not only if you like the show, but the materials and extras) and it didnt get nominated. Oh well... democracy :)
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 25, 2005, 11:24:11 AM
At least we nominated Paul Giamatti.

No one has mentioned the inexplicable lack of Dogville. That's really the biggest mistake.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Sleuth on January 25, 2005, 11:55:14 AM
Remember, you can only vote if you turned in your list of nominations and at least 3 of your picks had the first slot on the respective category lists
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Fernando on January 25, 2005, 12:05:04 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman

No one has mentioned the inexplicable lack of Dogville. That's really the biggest mistake.


 :yabbse-thumbdown:  :shock:  :evil:  :shock:  :yabbse-thumbdown:

I'd say that KBV2 took the spot of Dogville, although I really don't know if other members had it on their noms, mine's had it all over the place.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on January 25, 2005, 12:24:26 PM
..I love how people put Eternal Sunshine up for Best Sound and Visual Effects..

I see that movie filled the PTA void nicely for alot of people this year.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 25, 2005, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
..I love how people put Eternal Sunshine up for Best Sound and Visual Effects...


Well, it did deserve the Visual Effects nom.  A lot of the effects were done on camera, which requires a lot of skill and setup.  Just because it wasn't  post-production doesn't mean it's not a "visual effect."  

The Sound nom is justified, too.  The beeps and static and random sounds used in the main characters mind were used dramatically (and appropriately) to show blah blah blah (character's state of mind, the erasing of memories, etc.)

Anyway, the Noms seem pretty good.  Though "Baadassss!" and "Zatoichi" (a couple of my favorites from the year) are missing.

Oh, and can anyone tell me how many people voted?  The noms from "Million Dollar Baby" make me question the validity.  Who has seen this movie yet?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Slick Shoes on January 25, 2005, 01:01:27 PM
I didn't vote because there's so much I still haven't seen. Off the top of my head: The Aviator, I Heart Huckabees, Kinsey, Ray, Collateral, Closer, Maria Full of Grace, Hero, Spiderman 2, Bad Education, Tarnation, Overnight, Sky Captain, Team America, Brown Bunny, Shaun of the Dead etc etc
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: RegularKarate on January 25, 2005, 01:35:30 PM
Not enough people voted.

Increbles ALMOST made it in a lot of categories, which is my biggest disapointment.

Badassssss was okay, but it's overrated... I'm glad it didn't get nominated.

Kill Bill was over nominated.

It's really everyone's fault because you didn't vote.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on January 25, 2005, 02:25:37 PM
how many people voted?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Two Lane Blacktop on January 25, 2005, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: Slick Shoes
I didn't vote because there's so much I still haven't seen.


Likewise.   :oops:   I'm always about a year behind on most of the good stuff.  

2LB
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SHAFTR on January 25, 2005, 04:26:12 PM
I'm glad Ruffalo got a nomination.  The dude had a brain tumor.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 25, 2005, 04:42:20 PM
These aren't votes anyway, these are just nominations.  It's like JB said, even one nomination counts.  It doesn't matter if you can't fill in the whole ballot.  Any films you thought were worthy of nominations should've been submitted.  It's like some people didn't even take what he said seriously.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: GoneSavage on January 25, 2005, 04:57:11 PM
the only category I could fill was documentary.  That means either I didn't see any of the good movies this year *cough*, or it was a bad year for movies.  I even think a few of the docs I put up there weren't from this year, JB can verify.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on January 25, 2005, 09:42:59 PM
Quote from: Two Lane Blacktop
Quote from: Slick Shoes
I didn't vote because there's so much I still haven't seen.


Likewise.   :oops:   I'm always about a year behind on most of the good stuff.  

2LB

dudes!  thats not the point!  it doesnt matter what you HAVENT seen.  you like movies, just pick the best/favorites of what you DID see, because SOME votes is better than no votes.  it doesnt matter if you havent seen it all, nobody does.  more diversity, more better.

Quote from: wantautopia?
These aren't votes anyway, these are just nominations.  It's like JB said, even one nomination counts.  It doesn't matter if you can't fill in the whole ballot.  Any films you thought were worthy of nominations should've been submitted.  It's like some people didn't even take what he said seriously.

yeah what you said.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: GoneSavage on January 25, 2005, 09:51:16 PM
If they couldn't figure that out for themselves, did you really want them voting?  


?

Oh, you did?  Oh.


Nevermind.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Two Lane Blacktop on January 25, 2005, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: themodernage02

dudes!  thats not the point!  it doesnt matter what you HAVENT seen.  you like movies, just pick the best/favorites of what you DID see, because SOME votes is better than no votes.


I didn't even read this THREAD till today, but I'll remember that next year.  

2LB
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Gamblour. on January 26, 2005, 01:01:04 AM
No love for House of Flying Daggers (I didn't see Hero), and none for Incredibles, that's sad. I wish people remembered Peter Sarsgaard was in Garden State, the only good part about that movie.

The one I really wanted to make it into Best Debut was Primer. Oh well.

Just a thought, albeit a bad one: we should do the Bizarro Awards, where everything that wasn't nominated for an academy award, we pool our nominations from those then vote for winners. Would be interesting, especially since the good stuff already nominated for Oscars wouldn't be eligible.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 26, 2005, 01:05:08 AM
Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.
I wish people remembered Peter Sarsgaard was in Garden State, the only good part about that movie.

His votes were split between the two films and I'm quite surprised he got more for Kinsey.

Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.
Just a thought, albeit a bad one: we should do the Bizarro Awards

or maybe.. the Xixax Razzies?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Gamblour. on January 26, 2005, 09:21:21 AM
Quote from: cinephile

or maybe.. the Xixax Razzies?


Haha, like the worst in art films? Me likey
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 26, 2005, 10:40:57 AM
I think the best we could do is "biggest disappointments." We're not qualified to judge what the absolute worst movies are.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Slick Shoes on January 26, 2005, 11:50:03 AM
Quote from: Two Lane Blacktop
Quote from: themodernage02

dudes!  thats not the point!  it doesnt matter what you HAVENT seen.  you like movies, just pick the best/favorites of what you DID see, because SOME votes is better than no votes.


I didn't even read this THREAD till today, but I'll remember that next year.

Ditto
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on January 26, 2005, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: Slick Shoes
I didn't vote because there's so much I still haven't seen. Off the top of my head: The Aviator, I Heart Huckabees, Kinsey, Ray, Collateral, Closer, Maria Full of Grace, Hero, Spiderman 2, Bad Education, Tarnation, Overnight, Sky Captain, Team America, Brown Bunny, Shaun of the Dead etc etc


Shit, what did you do last year, man?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 26, 2005, 02:27:47 PM
Quote from: Slick Shoes
I didn't vote because there's so much I still haven't seen. Off the top of my head: The Aviator, I Heart Huckabees, Kinsey, Ray, Collateral, Closer, Maria Full of Grace, Hero, Spiderman 2, Bad Education, Tarnation, Overnight, Sky Captain, Team America, Brown Bunny, Shaun of the Dead etc etc


You could've helped Million Dollar Baby and the Dreamers.  :(
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SoNowThen on January 26, 2005, 05:53:29 PM
no Dogville sucks, for sure
...


but no NOTRE MUSIQUE!!!! fuckin' hell... am I the only one who saw it?

 :yabbse-angry:
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on January 26, 2005, 10:04:04 PM
no, i think ghostboy did too.  but you ARE the only one who tried to go to godards house.  :yabbse-wink:
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 26, 2005, 10:57:52 PM
I have a feeling if this thread goes much longer, a brawl will break out over the quality of Dogville.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: classical gas on January 27, 2005, 04:19:09 AM
as a non-participant, i have to say that i'm protesting over the lack of love for 'the dreamers'.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on January 27, 2005, 04:32:53 AM
Quote from: classical gas
as a non-participant, i have to say that i'm protesting over the lack of love for 'the dreamers'.

as a participant, i have to say that any lack of love for movies that didn't get enough votes are from non-participants who could have helped them out.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SoNowThen on January 27, 2005, 06:07:45 AM
and the winner for Best Onscreen Boobs goes to... Eva Green!!!!
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Alexandro on January 27, 2005, 11:58:11 AM
what about a "best title sequence" category?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: eward on January 27, 2005, 01:14:44 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
no Dogville sucks, for sure
...


but no NOTRE MUSIQUE!!!! fuckin' hell... am I the only one who saw it?

 :yabbse-angry:


i saw it too and put it on my ballot, i just never finished filling it out and didnt get what i had in on time.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on January 27, 2005, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: Alexandro
what about a "best title sequence" category?

Kinda goes under Best Visual Effects.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on January 27, 2005, 06:13:57 PM
I did vote and I had a couple of questions

1) how many people did vote?
2) why dont we have a foreign film category (I know several here are foreigners, but I mean not produced in the US or by an American Production Company/Studio)?

Thanks.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SHAFTR on January 27, 2005, 06:15:05 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
and the winner for Best Onscreen Boobs goes to... Eva Green!!!!


Yes, 2003 went to Ludivine Sagnier.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on January 27, 2005, 06:30:49 PM
...in Peter Pan.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: MacGuffin on January 27, 2005, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: andyk
1) how many people did vote?


A good gauge is to count all those who've responded with reactions to the nominations.


Yes, it was that low. :yabbse-sad:
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on January 27, 2005, 10:03:06 PM
wow, thats really sad. i thought we had a lot more active posters here than that.  its even funnier than that almost everyone who has responded, has done so with a gripe of dissatisfaction about what films didnt make the cut when there were so few votes to begin with.  well, these are just nominations so hopefully more people will get to vote for the actual winners.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: picolas on January 27, 2005, 10:37:15 PM
i'm responding with a reaction.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on January 27, 2005, 11:46:24 PM
How long was the nomination period open? Seems like it was only 2 or 3 weeks..
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on January 28, 2005, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
How long was the nomination period open? Seems like it was only 2 or 3 weeks..


Almost all the active Xixax users check the site at least once a week. If you dont, there is so much to read that you miss many things - including maybe the new thread about the Awards.

That said, I think we have enough active users and enough people that read this thread so that they could vote. The problem maybe is that many of the people in here didnt watch most of the films that were nominated or that were supposed to be nominated.

I think I filled in almost all the blanks in the ballot, but it took me a while and I still did regret that I couldnt nominate or put something about a film because I didnt see it. Surprisingly most of the nominees I put up made it to the final, but I do see some that are missing and some that for sure dont deserve to be there, but made it because of the lack of votes.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: life_boy on January 28, 2005, 10:43:10 AM
Quote from: andyk
Quote from: Myxomatosis
How long was the nomination period open? Seems like it was only 2 or 3 weeks..


Almost all the active Xixax users check the site at least once a week. If you dont, there is so much to read that you miss many things - including maybe the new thread about the Awards.


The thread about the awards is an announcement (top of the list) so anyone who missed it wasn't looking too hard.  I'm not extremely active but I knew the awards were coming because it was getting close to mid-January so I started checking the site often.  I was beginning to wonder if the awards were going to happen at all because no one was talking about it.  But, then, the announcement came and I was ready for it.  

I think people might be afraid of leaving blanks on their ballot.  I know I don't like to do it.  One just has to remember that one's ballot does not have to be definitive: it is not one's final statement on film for the year.  I knew I wasn't going to be able to see Million Dollar Baby, Vera Drake, The Motorcycle Diaries, or Hotel Rwanda before the awards so I just took my time to see some other films that had already been released on DVD that I missed for whatever reason:  Before Sunset, Baadaaasss!, Coffee & Cigarettes, and Maria Full of Grace.  Not that there was a bunch of love out there for them besides actress for Maria and screenplay for Sunset, but they found several empty places on my ballot.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Redlum on January 28, 2005, 11:27:55 AM
Having now seen Before Sunset, I realise I'd have easily put it in my best picture noms. And agree with whoever said that it should be the film to win on Xixax. Just because. Its a very special film.

I still have to see Sideways (released here next week) and then I think Ive seen want I wanted to of 2004.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: bonanzataz on January 28, 2005, 06:09:57 PM
sorry. i would've nominated had i checked the site more often. oh well. NEXT YEAR!

i would like to have seen dogville and five obstructions on there. and birth. nobody saw birth, but it was one of the best "mainstream" pics of last year. i can't really remember what came out last year. whatever, y'all don't read my posts anyway.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: bigperm on January 31, 2005, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate
It's really everyone's fault because you didn't vote.

Sorry, I was busy trying to come up with marquee phrases.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: MacGuffin on February 01, 2005, 01:32:24 AM
It's time to vote for the 2005 Xixax Awards! This is the final vote!


Send your votes in through PM, following all the rules. The deadline is February 21.


Any questions? Ask them here.

THE RULES:

you have to
1. vote privately: (note that these letter designations are different!)
. . . .If your username begins begins with A-E (or #), send your ballot to MacGuffin (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=9)
. . . .If your username begins begins with F-M, send your ballot to Jeremy Blackman (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=21)
. . . .If your username begins begins with N-R, send your ballot to RegularKarate (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=63)
. . . .If your username begins begins with S-Z, send your ballot to cinephile (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=280)
2. copy the form below and paste it into your PM
3. delete all titles except your vote, like an elimination process
4. title your PM "final awards" (please!)

you should
1. be honest
2. vote from personal opinion and not consensus

you can't
1. send more than one ballot
2. vote from different memberships or usernames
3. type out your ballot (you have to copy & paste!)
4. add anything to the ballot
5. change the order of the categories
6. share your votes publicly (yet)
7. change your ballot

you can
1. vote in some categories or all categories
2. vote any time between now and February 21




copy and paste, deleting all titles but your vote


BEST FILM
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Kill Bill Vol. 2
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Sideways

BEST DIRECTOR
Michel Gondry  - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Michael Mann - Collateral
Alexander Payne - Sideways
Martin Scorsese - The Aviator
Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill Vol. 2

BEST FEMALE PERFORMANCE
Catalina Sandino Moreno - Maria Full of Grace
Natalie Portman - Closer
Hillary Swank - Million Dollar Baby
Uma Thurman - Kill Bill Vol. 2
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

BEST MALE PERFORMANCE
Jim Carrey - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Leonardo DiCaprio - The Aviator
Jamie Foxx - Ray
Paul Giamatti - Sideways
Clive Owen - Closer

BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE PERFORMANCE
Cate Blanchett - The Aviator
Kirsten Dunst - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Laura Linney - Kinsey
Virginia Madsen - Sideways
Darryl Hannah - Kill Bill Vol. 2

BEST SUPPORTING MALE PERFORMANCE
David Carradine - Kill Bill Vol. 2
Willem Dafoe - The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou
Morgan Freeman - Million Dollar Baby
Mark Ruffalo - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Peter Sarsgaard - Kinsey

BEST SCREENPLAY
The Aviator
Before Sunset
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
Sideways

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
The Aviator
Collateral
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Hero
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou

BEST ORIGINAL MUSIC
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zizou
Sideways

BEST EDITING
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
Kill Bill Vol. 2
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou

BEST SOUND
The Aviator
Collateral
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Kill Bill Vol. 2
Spider-Man 2

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Aviator
The Day After Tomorrow
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2

BEST DEBUT FILM
Garden State
Napoleon Dynamite
Shaun of the Dead
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Tarnation

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Control Room
Fahrenheit 9/11
Super Size Me
Tarnation
Touching the Void

BEST DVD RELEASE
John Cassavetes: Five Films (Criterion Collection)
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Extended Edition)
Short Cuts (Criterion Collection)
Star Wars Trilogy
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SHAFTR on February 01, 2005, 01:50:29 AM
Question:  What about Million Dollar Baby?  Will that just be snuffed for noms this year b/c no one saw it in time and next year (b/c it's not elligible).  Reason I ask is that, after seeing it, I would say it's the best film of the year.  Any chance of having it added to Best Film, considering the circumstances?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on February 01, 2005, 01:51:34 AM
How the fuck did The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou make it but Million Dollar Baby didn't.

I'm not voting for any of those in the best film category on general principle.

..and no Clint Eastwood for Best Director either. Lame. Michael Mann? I love his films but :yabbse-thumbdown: on that one..

:saywhat:
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SHAFTR on February 01, 2005, 01:55:29 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
How the fuck did The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou make it but Million Dollar Baby didn't.

I'm not voting for any of those in the best film category on general principle.

..and no Clint Eastwood for Best Director either. Lame.

:saywhat:


No one had seen it yet.  Where I live, the first day that I could see MDB without traveling 2.5 hrs was Friday.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on February 01, 2005, 01:56:49 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: Myxomatosis
How the fuck did The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou make it but Million Dollar Baby didn't.

I'm not voting for any of those in the best film category on general principle.

..and no Clint Eastwood for Best Director either. Lame.

:saywhat:


No one had seen it yet.  Where I live, the first day that I could see MDB without traveling 2.5 hrs was Friday.


But still..

..The Life Aquatic? Fucking A that movie wasn't even in the top 20 best films of the year let alone the top 5. We've got some Wes Anderson freaks here or something. Throw in Before Sunset in it's place then..
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on February 01, 2005, 02:01:21 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
We've got some Wes Anderson freaks here or something.

yeah, seems like it. weird. i'll consult the other admins about this. maybe we should get him his own forum or something.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on February 01, 2005, 02:07:01 AM
Quote from: cinephile
Quote from: Myxomatosis
We've got some Wes Anderson freaks here or something.

yeah, seems like it. weird. i'll consult the other admins about this. maybe we should get him his own forum or something.


I know he's got his own forum but seriously..

Even if you are a huge fan of his movies, anyone with half a brain has to realize that his movie wasn't 1/4 as good as 10 other movies not nominated for best film this year.

Million Dollar Baby
Ray
Incredibles
House of Flying Daggers
Closer
Before Sunset
Finding Neverland
Vera Drake
Collateral
Kinsey

..are all superior films to Anderson's average hohum Life Aquatic..
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on February 01, 2005, 07:05:12 AM
I think write-in votes should be allowed, just because it is a shame Million Dollar Baby was overlooked.  It's the only film I can think of that would benefit from a write-in, anyway.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Pubrick on February 01, 2005, 08:05:32 AM
uh, i wasn't around for the vote (not that it would hav mattered) but i think if anyone is gonna cry about anything (and i'm sure at least one of u will) why not make it about sumthing as ATROCIOUS as kb2.. seriouisly.

can we vote to take votes off? like negative votes? talk about fanboy blind voting.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Slick Shoes on February 01, 2005, 12:00:23 PM
this is ludicrous! I resign!

oh wait. it's my fault

fuck it. i still resign.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Sleuth on February 01, 2005, 12:32:57 PM
Proceed with the Xixax Awards.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on February 01, 2005, 02:00:55 PM
Quote from: Sleuth
Proceed with the Xixax Awards.

YOU WON'T WIN.  YOU CAN NEVER WIN.  RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: life_boy on February 01, 2005, 04:41:28 PM
You mean the SUXIXAX awards.  What a crock.

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Aviator: Oo, airplanes.  Wow.  Yeah right.  Scorsese fanboys win again.
The Day After Tomorrow: Oo, computer fx.  Killer cold bullshit.  Fucking fanboy Emmerich fan assholes.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: Oo, he got smaller under the table.  That's cool.  Yeah right.  Charlie Kauffman sucks fanboy c*ck.
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow: I'm sky captain and my world of tomorrow with blimps and Jude Law!  Oo, that's cool.  Angelina Jolie is hot.  Those aren't CGI.
Spider-Man 2: Oo, octopus arms and superhero delivering pizza (how clever).  Sam Raimi used to make movies but now he makes Spider-Man.  Wow.  Give me a break.

I can think of at least four films with more computer effects than any of those:

Shrek 2
The Polar Express
The Incredibles
Shark Tale


Where's the love?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on February 01, 2005, 04:44:57 PM
EYE HEART EWE.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: UncleJoey on February 01, 2005, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: life_boy
You mean the SUXIXAX awards.  What a crock.

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Aviator: Oo, airplanes.  Wow.  Yeah right.  Scorsese fanboys win again.
The Day After Tomorrow: Oo, computer fx.  Killer cold bullshit.  Fucking fanboy Emmerich fan assholes.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: Oo, he got smaller under the table.  That's cool.  Yeah right.  Charlie Kauffman sucks fanboy c*ck.
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow: I'm sky captain and my world of tomorrow with blimps and Jude Law!  Oo, that's cool.  Angelina Jolie is hot.  Those aren't CGI.
Spider-Man 2: Oo, octopus arms and superhero delivering pizza (how clever).  Sam Raimi used to make movies but now he makes Spider-Man.  Wow.  Give me a break.

I can think of at least four films with more computer effects than any of those:

Shrek 2
The Polar Express
The Incredibles
Shark Tale


Where's the love?


Maybe if someone could make this argument without being a complete ass, things would change.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as an Emmerich fanboy. At least, I hope not. Or maybe you're just joking - for your sake, I hope so.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on February 01, 2005, 07:28:54 PM
Ya know..

For a crappy movie Leminy Snicket had great effects.

..as did Big Fish? That 2003 or 2004?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: El Duderino on February 01, 2005, 08:10:16 PM
2003
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on February 01, 2005, 08:26:46 PM
So are we going ahead with the vote as it is or there will be changes in the Nominations?

I think that as much as I hate Life Aquatic and Kill Bill 2 to be nominated for BEST FILM, and some other crap, I think that whats done its done and if we didnt have so many morons that didnt vote we wouldnt have this problem now.

Maybe there is also a point regaridng Million Dollar Baby and the vote being made too soon... but shit happens.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on February 01, 2005, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Ya know..

For a crappy movie Leminy Snicket had great effects.

..as did Big Fish? That 2003 or 2004?


I think Lemony Snickett wasn't so bad...but are you sure it was the great effects that saved it?...

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Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: El Duderino on February 01, 2005, 09:31:51 PM
Pedophile
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on February 01, 2005, 09:33:04 PM
Hypocrite
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on February 01, 2005, 09:58:18 PM
Meatball
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: RegularKarate on February 01, 2005, 10:01:17 PM
This is evidently the Bitchxax Awards...

Quote from: life_boy
You mean the SUXIXAX awards.  What a crock.
I can think of at least four films with more computer effects than any of those:

Shrek 2
The Polar Express
The Incredibles
Shark Tale


Where's the love?


I really hope you're kidding

Quote from: Myxomatosis


Million Dollar Baby
Ray
Incredibles
House of Flying Daggers
Closer
Before Sunset
Finding Neverland
Vera Drake
Collateral
Kinsey

..are all superior films to Anderson's average hohum Life Aquatic..


Maybe three of those are better, but you went overboard with House of Flying Daggers and Finding Neverland... gimme a fucking break.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Myxo on February 01, 2005, 11:27:47 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
This is evidently the Bitchxax Awards...

Quote from: life_boy
You mean the SUXIXAX awards.  What a crock.
I can think of at least four films with more computer effects than any of those:

Shrek 2
The Polar Express
The Incredibles
Shark Tale


Where's the love?


I really hope you're kidding

Quote from: Myxomatosis


Million Dollar Baby
Ray
Incredibles
House of Flying Daggers
Closer
Before Sunset
Finding Neverland
Vera Drake
Collateral
Kinsey

..are all superior films to Anderson's average hohum Life Aquatic..


Maybe three of those are better, but you went overboard with House of Flying Daggers and Finding Neverland... gimme a fucking break.


I'll give you House of Flying Daggers but Finding Neverland was a great film, and far suprior in my personal opinion to Life Aquatic. That said, it still doesn't belong on the list. I loved Kill Bill Vol. 2, but it doesn't belong on that list either.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: life_boy on February 02, 2005, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate
This is evidently the Bitchxax Awards...

Quote from: life_boy
You mean the SUXIXAX awards.  What a crock.
I can think of at least four films with more computer effects than any of those:

Shrek 2
The Polar Express
The Incredibles
Shark Tale


Where's the love?


I really hope you're kidding


Quote from: UncleJoey

Maybe if someone could make this argument without being a complete ass, things would change.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as an Emmerich fanboy. At least, I hope not. Or maybe you're just joking - for your sake, I hope so.


You know, for as much sarcasm as usually floats around the boards, no one seems to pick up on it when I post.  Take a fucking hint.  

Is the following tirade an argument for the illegitimacy of the nominees for 'Best Visual Effects', or, is it, in fact, a piece of satire on the way members bitch about and take the Xixax awards a little too seriously?  As the writer of the post, I tend to lean toward the latter of the two choices.  Shall we go through and analyze some of the telltale points individually?

Quote from: life_boy
You mean the SUXIXAX awards.  What a crock.


The "SUXIXAX awards" plays to the notion that the awards could be something more than they are, a collection of votes by people who visit the board and vote for films released in the calander year.  The final list of nominees is a generalization based on the collection of the ballots recieved by the ones who bothered to vote.  It is subjective and completely of its time.  Had the voting took place this week, the results could be completely different.  If the voting were to take place in two years from now, the results would be completely different.  That's the nature of awards, film, generalization, our minds and life.  This shouldn't be a surprise, but people are surprised by it all the time (especially when awards season comes around).

Quote from: life_boy
BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Aviator: Oo, airplanes.  Wow.  Yeah right.  Scorsese fanboys win again.


First, for one to use as their main argument on the supposed "suckiness" of the awards the 'Best Visual Effects' category, this should be a tipoff that the following is intended in jest and should be seen as a satiric comment on those upset over the picks for 'Best Picture'.  Just in case there was any confusion, the author of the post decided to include comments on the films nominated and on the "visual effects" contained therein.  The first use of the word "fanboy" is interesting, as it referrences earlier comments made about "fanboy blind voting," etc.  Scorsese has many fans, some of them are boys.  This pulls the viewer in, making one think one might be reading an actual complaint, yet if one were to put the pieces together, one might see otherwise.

Quote from: life_boy
The Day After Tomorrow: Oo, computer fx.  Killer cold bullshit.  Fucking fanboy Emmerich fan assholes.


In case anyone has read this far and still sees this as a really upset XIXAXer, pissed by the paltry films chosen by the masses for the 'Best Visual Effects' category, the "fucking fanboy Emmerich fan assholes" comment should clear it up nicely and cause a chuckle or two in the reader.  As UncleJoey has so keenly noted: "Also, I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as an Emmerich fanboy. At least, I hope not. Or maybe you're just joking - for your sake, I hope so."  Yes, as one can see by the evidence put forth, I truly believe Roland Emmerich fanboy blind voting ruined the XIXAX awards.  

Quote from: life_boy
I can think of at least four films with more computer effects than any of those:

Shrek 2
The Polar Express
The Incredibles
Shark Tale


Finally, for anyone who pays any attention to detail, the synopsis above the four films listed is, "I can think of at least four films with more computer effects than any of those..."  Notice the use of the word "more."  Considering the four films listed are completely computer animated, it should follow that they have more computer effects than any of the other films.  But, as we all know, this is not what is meant when one refers to 'Best Visual Effects'.  Thus, the joke is set, given the right amount of subtlty to make it believable and the right amount of preposterousness to make it seem unsensible and therefore point it to the logical conclusion of being a joke.  Yet confusion remains.

Quote from: life_boy
Where's the love?


Indeed.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Pubrick on February 02, 2005, 01:33:36 AM
dude, u just owned urself.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: UncleJoey on February 02, 2005, 02:26:09 AM
Quote from: life_boy
Thus, the joke is set, given the right amount of subtlty to make it believable and the right amount of preposterousness to make it seem unsensible and therefore point it to the logical conclusion of being a joke.  Yet confusion remains.

Quote from: life_boy
Where's the love?


Indeed.



Perhaps Regularkarate and I didn't quite "get" your post because it was so incredibly lame and uninspired that it seemed more likely you were trying to provide a genuine argument than a joke.

You seem to spend far more time trying to criticize the way people post on this board than actually attempting to contribute anything meaningful yourself.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Two Lane Blacktop on February 02, 2005, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: life_boy
Thus, the joke is set, given the right amount of subtlty to make it believable and the right amount of preposterousness to make it seem unsensible and therefore


The word you're grasping for is "troll."

You were trolling- which is generally frowned on.

2LB
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 02, 2005, 07:30:39 PM
IMPORTANT RULES-RELATED ANNOUNCEMENT!

We're changing the rules by popular demand!

The change is simple. We're allowing write-ins for Best Film. So you can pick one of the nominations or you can write in your own.

And yes, if you already sent in your ballot, you can send a correction. If you choose to do this, please title your PM "correction"...

This rule change is completely limited to the Best Film category. Everything else is exactly the same.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: meatball on February 02, 2005, 11:41:58 PM
Quote from: ono mo cuishle
Meatball


Feel the love.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Sleepless on February 07, 2005, 10:33:29 AM
So what was the point of everyone else voting in the first place? If some people decided not to vote then they have no right to argue that the nominated films don't deserve it. The whole point of a democratic voting system - as I was under the impression this was - is that the results are fair. Why should the choices of those of us who bothered to vote in the first place now be scrapped because some people have realised that they should have contributed in the first place? It's absolutely rediculous. You should leave the nominees and voting as it was, period. Then, next year, you should maybe do the whole nominating later.

To now allow some individuals the opportunity to alter the original nominees once others among us have already started voting is unfair. As far as I can see all the voting up to this point has been fair, now you want to corrupt it by letting those whose choices didn't but is (and those who didn't nominate anyway) storm in and let them do whatever they want.

You've really turned this whole thing into a complete farce, proving that this award really are both pointless and worthless. Next time, get it right from the beginning, otherwise what's the point?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: RegularKarate on February 07, 2005, 01:46:45 PM
oh, sniff sniff

Firstly, the write-ins only count towards the best film category.  The nominees are still nominated, there's just an option for write-in since people who voted didn't get a chance to see certain films until after the nominations.  

It has nothing to do with people who didn't vote.

You're really exagerating this waaaaaaaaaay too far... we haven't "turned this whole thing into a complete farce"... it's not like we're changing votes... we're allowing a write-in for one category.

We didn't wait until later to have the noms because the point is to get the noms out before the Oscar noms come in.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on February 07, 2005, 03:33:25 PM
So are we supposed to vote already or we are waiting for something...?
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: cine on February 07, 2005, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: andyk
So are we supposed to vote already or we are waiting for something...?

page 8 is waiting for you..
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: life_boy on February 07, 2005, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: Sleepless
The whole point of a democratic voting system - as I was under the impression this was - is that the results are fair.  


Write-ins are usually allowed in a democratic voting system.  It is the nature of democracy...it doesn't discredit it, necessarily.  But, to keep everything in perspective, this is a movie award ballot we're talking about here, not something of significant social or political weight.  It's supposed to be fun, after all.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Kal on February 07, 2005, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: cinephile
Quote from: andyk
So are we supposed to vote already or we are waiting for something...?

page 8 is waiting for you..


thanks... i saw that but i actually didnt understand if we should subit the write ins with the votes or the nominations again.

thanks
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SoNowThen on February 11, 2005, 04:26:13 PM
What's the deadline on this bad boy? Life Aquatic comes here Feb 18...
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: ono on February 11, 2005, 04:30:49 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
The deadline is February 21.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: MacGuffin on February 11, 2005, 06:07:33 PM
To remind everyone:

Quote from: MacGuffin
It's time to vote for the 2005 Xixax Awards! This is the final vote!


Send your votes in through PM, following all the rules. The deadline is February 21.


Any questions? Ask them here.

THE RULES:

you have to
1. vote privately: (note that these letter designations are different!)
. . . .If your username begins begins with A-E (or #), send your ballot to MacGuffin (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=9)
. . . .If your username begins begins with F-M, send your ballot to Jeremy Blackman (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=21)
. . . .If your username begins begins with N-R, send your ballot to RegularKarate (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=63)
. . . .If your username begins begins with S-Z, send your ballot to cinephile (http://xixax.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=280)
2. copy the form below and paste it into your PM
3. delete all titles except your vote, like an elimination process
4. title your PM "final awards" (please!)

you should
1. be honest
2. vote from personal opinion and not consensus

you can't
1. send more than one ballot
2. vote from different memberships or usernames
3. type out your ballot (you have to copy & paste!)
4. add anything to the ballot
5. change the order of the categories
6. share your votes publicly (yet)
7. change your ballot

you can
1. vote in some categories or all categories
2. vote any time between now and February 21




copy and paste, deleting all titles but your vote


BEST FILM
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Kill Bill Vol. 2
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Sideways

BEST DIRECTOR
Michel Gondry  - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Michael Mann - Collateral
Alexander Payne - Sideways
Martin Scorsese - The Aviator
Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill Vol. 2

BEST FEMALE PERFORMANCE
Catalina Sandino Moreno - Maria Full of Grace
Natalie Portman - Closer
Hillary Swank - Million Dollar Baby
Uma Thurman - Kill Bill Vol. 2
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

BEST MALE PERFORMANCE
Jim Carrey - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Leonardo DiCaprio - The Aviator
Jamie Foxx - Ray
Paul Giamatti - Sideways
Clive Owen - Closer

BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE PERFORMANCE
Cate Blanchett - The Aviator
Kirsten Dunst - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Laura Linney - Kinsey
Virginia Madsen - Sideways
Darryl Hannah - Kill Bill Vol. 2

BEST SUPPORTING MALE PERFORMANCE
David Carradine - Kill Bill Vol. 2
Willem Dafoe - The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou
Morgan Freeman - Million Dollar Baby
Mark Ruffalo - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Peter Sarsgaard - Kinsey

BEST SCREENPLAY
The Aviator
Before Sunset
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
Sideways

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
The Aviator
Collateral
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Hero
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou

BEST ORIGINAL MUSIC
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zizou
Sideways

BEST EDITING
The Aviator
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I Heart Huckabees
Kill Bill Vol. 2
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou

BEST SOUND
The Aviator
Collateral
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Kill Bill Vol. 2
Spider-Man 2

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Aviator
The Day After Tomorrow
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2

BEST DEBUT FILM
Garden State
Napoleon Dynamite
Shaun of the Dead
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Tarnation

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Control Room
Fahrenheit 9/11
Super Size Me
Tarnation
Touching the Void

BEST DVD RELEASE
John Cassavetes: Five Films (Criterion Collection)
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Extended Edition)
Short Cuts (Criterion Collection)
Star Wars Trilogy


Now you can add Page 10 to that which is waiting for you.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: SoNowThen on February 12, 2005, 03:28:42 AM
Merci
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: modage on February 20, 2005, 11:29:47 AM
i just sent mine in, after rejiggering it about 5 times and almost having sent it in.  depending on the day my votes swing totally differently in some of those categories.  i was also trying to wait till i watched Ray and Motorcycle Diaries which i have sitting here.  then i remembered that motorcycle isnt nominated for anything anyways and i probably wouldnt have voted for foxx anyways because hes already getting an oscar, he doesnt need an xixaxie.
Title: Xixax Awards 2005
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 23, 2005, 02:37:42 PM
Expect the awards to be announced within the next few days. (Definitely before the Oscars.)