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Title: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 15, 2006, 12:33:34 AM
I didn't find a thread for this exactly, so I brought it up here.  What comics and/or graphic novels do you guys read or have thoroughly enjoyed reading? I don't read comics as much as I used to, but I've slowly been getting back into them.

Right now, as indicated by my avatar, I've been deep into the Concrete series.

Other big favorites:

Scud the Disposable Assassin
Preacher
Watchmen
V for Vendetta
Swamp Thing
Johnny the Homicidal Maniac
Sin City
Hard Boiled
Sandman
Kingdom Come
Astro City
Cerebus

 
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: polkablues on March 15, 2006, 12:40:02 AM
Read Alan Moore's Supreme, Top 10, and Miracleman; Bendis' Alias, Powers, Torso, and Daredevil; Mike Carey's Lucifer; Grant Morrison's Animal Man and The Invisibles; Jeff Smith's Bone; and all the Hellblazer you can get your hands on.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Gamblour. on March 15, 2006, 07:58:22 AM
Polka turned me onto Brian Michael Bendis, I bought "Torso" and "Jinx." I've only read a few pages of Torso, but I found it pretty addicting from the get-go. I have to finish reading Hitchcock/Truffaut before I can finish anything else, but when I do, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: GoneSavage on March 15, 2006, 10:33:18 AM
My favorite superhero comic is Batman.
My alltime favorite title is Stray Bullets by David Lapham.  He also did a fine series called Murder Me Dead.
I'm a big fan of Alan Moore's work, especially Watchmen (of course) which I hope never ever gets a movie made of it. 
I read a lot of Madman, Hate, Sandman, The Maxx.

Looking to get into Runaways, Y The Last Man, Transmetropolitan.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: modage on March 15, 2006, 07:48:32 PM
My favorite comic of all time is Scud: The Disposable Assassin. and since I grew up in a household with thousands of Batman comics and graphic novels I'm a pretty big fan of the ones that I've read as well, Batman: Year One and The Dark Knight Returns in particular.  i used to read a ton of comics but none that really stuck with me are coming to mind.  i've got a copy of Watchmen on my shelf and have been meaning to read it for a long time so I'll probably get around to that soon.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: pete on March 15, 2006, 10:38:45 PM
I love comics by Taiyo Matsumoto, which are completely fresh and original.  they're nihilistic and innocent and the drawing style captures the kineticism of Japanese manga with a heavy surreal French influence.  His stories are always uplifiting, in the strangest ways.  Ping Ping, my favorite movie of all time, was adapted from his comic book.

http://www.shogakukan.co.jp/taiyo/top.html
click on the covers on this site to see a sample of his work.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: sheshothim on March 15, 2006, 11:36:35 PM
Absolutely love X-Men, although I don't get to read much anymore. And when I say X-Men, I mean I was reading X-Treme, New, Ultimate, Uncanny, Excalibur, Astonishing.....as many as I could possibly manage. I read Mystique for a while too--enjoyed that one. Emma Frost: not so much. Maybe if you're a 14 year old girl, I could see it.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: polkablues on March 16, 2006, 02:07:45 AM
Quote from: sheshothim on March 15, 2006, 11:36:35 PM
Absolutely love X-Men, although I don't get to read much anymore. And when I say X-Men, I mean I was reading X-Treme, New, Ultimate, Uncanny, Excalibur, Astonishing.....as many as I could possibly manage. I read Mystique for a while too--enjoyed that one. Emma Frost: not so much. Maybe if you're a 14 year old girl, I could see it.

I hardly read any superhero comics, but Grant Morisson's New X-Men was amazing.

The Ultimates is some good shit, too.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 16, 2006, 04:44:07 PM
It's awesome so see so many comic readers here.  I guess it's not too surprising since comics and movies aren't too far apart.

I was working on an adaptation of Scud: The Disposable Assassin and found out that Rob Schrab is working on one himself.  This is simultaneously exciting and irritating, more of the exciting.

Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: GoneSavage on March 16, 2006, 06:13:40 PM
Wow, I haven't thought about SCUD for a long time.  My brother LOVED that book. 
This thread has inspired me to order some back issues I needed and get excited for Con waaaaaaay too early.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: modage on March 16, 2006, 07:13:36 PM
Quote from: Walrus on March 16, 2006, 04:44:07 PM
It's awesome so see so many comic readers here.  I guess it's not too surprising since comics and movies aren't too far apart.

I was working on an adaptation of Scud: The Disposable Assassin and found out that Rob Schrab is working on one himself.  This is simultaneously exciting and irritating, more of the exciting.
there was a crazy rumor years ago that Oliver Stone was interested in making a Scud film, but that was a long time ago. 

currently Schrab can be seen doing the Hell O Clock News on http://www.tenaciousdmovie.com/   but the best news is that he along with fellow Scud writer Dan Harmon wrote their first feature, the upcoming Monster House http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=8370.0 which seems like im the only one excited about it.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: sheshothim on March 17, 2006, 11:55:24 AM
I'm currently trying to decide whether or not to start getting some X-Men comics again, and if I do, which ones. I would hate to buy one without buying the other two. (And by that I mean Astonishing without X-Men and Uncanny) Does ANYONE have a suggestion for me?!?!!? Hehe.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: pete on March 17, 2006, 03:27:48 PM
are you a real girl?  'cause if you are but you hang out on xixax and you read comics, then you might be the one for MOST OF US.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Reinhold on March 17, 2006, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Gamblour le flambeur on March 15, 2006, 07:58:22 AM
Polka turned me on... I bought "Torso"... and I found it pretty addicting from the get-go. ... I have to finish, but when I do, I'll let you know.

hot.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: sheshothim on March 17, 2006, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: pete on March 17, 2006, 03:27:48 PM
are you a real girl? 'cause if you are but you hang out on xixax and you read comics, then you might be the one for MOST OF US.

Yes, I'm a real girl, not to be confused with a fake one.

I actually get that a lot.

I'm also an avid gamer, which seems to piss guys off more than turn them on. I end up beating most.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 17, 2006, 06:50:14 PM
Run while you still can.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: MacGuffin on March 17, 2006, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: pete on March 17, 2006, 03:27:48 PM
are you a real girl?  'cause if you are but you hang out on xixax and you read comics, then you might be the one for MOST OF US.

To hell with the comics, she had me at:

Quote from: sheshothim on March 10, 2006, 12:44:31 PMI love Star Wars. It's a passion.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: sheshothim on March 17, 2006, 07:21:42 PM
Oh Star Wars! Don't even get me started.

Right after I marry John Williams I'm going to move to a different country and marry Harrison Ford so John doesn't find out. Sorry fellas.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Pubrick on March 18, 2006, 05:35:13 AM
i think i saw an episode of MTV's 'Real Life' with you and your pals on it. you talked a bit much, congrats on the win tho.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: sheshothim on March 18, 2006, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on March 18, 2006, 05:35:13 AM
i think i saw an episode of MTV's 'Real Life' with you and your pals on it. you talked a bit much, congrats on the win tho.

I'm going to have to look that up or something because I have no clue what it means........haha! I am sloooowwww....
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: polkablues on March 19, 2006, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: Lucid on March 19, 2006, 02:27:07 PM
Maus I/II by Art Spiegelman?

:yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup:

Quote from: Lucid on March 19, 2006, 02:27:07 PM
Has anyone read In the Shadow of No Towers?

:yabbse-thumbdown: :yabbse-thumbdown: :yabbse-thumbdown:
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 19, 2006, 05:26:10 PM
I enjoyed Maus a great deal.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on March 19, 2006, 10:40:47 PM
Spurred on by this thread, I bought a couple of graphic novels.  I got:

Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art, by Scott McCloud

and

The Sandman: Endless Nights, by Neil Gaiman.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 19, 2006, 11:02:51 PM
Quote from: Ginger on March 19, 2006, 10:40:47 PM
The Sandman: Endless Nights, by Neil Gaiman.

I recommend Sandman: Dream Hunters if you haven't read it.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: polkablues on March 20, 2006, 12:11:15 AM
Quote from: Ginger on March 19, 2006, 10:40:47 PM
Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art, by Scott McCloud

Everyone in the world should read this book.  It's that good.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: MacGuffin on June 01, 2006, 02:57:41 PM
Batwoman Is Back As a Lesbian

NEW YORK (AP) -- Years after she first emerged from the Batcave, Batwoman is coming out of the closet. DC Comics is resurrecting the classic comic book character as a lesbian, unveiling the new Batwoman in July as part of an ongoing weekly series that began this year.

The 5-foot-10 superhero comes with flowing red hair, knee-high red boots with spiked heels, and a form-fitting black outfit.

"We decided to give her a different point of view," explained Dan DiDio, vice president and executive editor at DC. "We wanted to make her a more unique personality than others in the Bat-family. That's one of the reasons we went in this direction."

The original Batwoman was started in 1956, and killed off in 1979. The new character will share the same name as her original alter ego, Kathy Kane. And the new Batwoman arrives with ties to others in the Gotham City world.

"She's a socialite from Gotham high society," DiDio said. "She has some past connection with Bruce Wayne. And she's also had a past love affair with one of our lead characters, Renee Montoya."

Montoya, in the "52" comic book series, is a former police detective. Wayne, of course, is Batman's true identity -- but he has disappeared, along with Superman and Wonder Woman, leaving Gotham a more dangerous place.

The "52" series is a collaboration of four acclaimed writers, with one episode per week for one year. The comics will introduce other diverse characters as the story plays out.

"This is not just about having a gay character," DiDio said. "We're trying for overall diversity in the DC universe. We have strong African-American, Hispanic and Asian characters. We're trying to get a better cross-section of our readership and the world."

The outing of Batwoman created a furor of opinions on Web sites devoted to DC Comics. Opinions ranged from outrage to approval. Others took a more tongue-in-cheek approach to the announcement.

"Wouldn't ugly people as heroes be more groundbreaking?" asked one poster. "You know, 200-pound woman, man with horseshoe hair loss pattern, people with cold sores, etc.?"

DiDio asked that people wait until the new Batwoman's appearance in the series before they pass judgment.

"You know what? Judge us by the story and character we create," he said. "We are confident that we are telling a great story with a strong, complex character."

DiDio spent most of the morning fielding phone calls from media intrigued by the Batwoman reinvention.

"It's kind of weird," he said. "We had a feeling it would attract some attention, but we're a little surprised it did this much."

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Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Gamblour. on June 01, 2006, 09:49:08 PM
I still haven't finished any of the graphic novels that I said I would start, but I started David Boring by Daniel Clowes...very cool.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: sheshothim on June 05, 2006, 09:20:15 PM
For some reason I can't picture Batwoman as anything but a lesbian. I don't really know why...it just suits her. Sometimes I don't like it when old characters turn gay. I'm not saying I'm against it, it just bothers me. I get upset, like, they weren't supposed to be that way. But not with Batwoman. Like I said...it suits her.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: MacGuffin on June 15, 2006, 11:58:14 AM
It's a Marvel: Spidey Unmasks
Source: Los Angeles Times

Behind the 'Spider' mask, he's just Peter Parker.

Forty-four years after first donning a mask, Spider-Man takes it off in public in a comic book that hits stores today.

In the book, the second issue of "Civil War," Spider-Man, Captain America and other familiar heroes in Marvel Comics are struggling not with villains but with federal legislation requiring that they register and reveal their identities. That federal crackdown begins after hundreds of children are killed at an elementary school when a battle between heroes and villains spills onto their campus.

In the issue now on sale, Spider-Man is the first major hero to acquiesce, pulling off his mask at a Washington news conference. Captain America, meanwhile, goes underground and leads a faction of heroes who believe the government has gone too far.

The government versus masked men theme has become a staple of superhero lore (it was memorably defined by "The Watchmen" comics in the 1980s but was recently made far more famous by "The Incredibles" and "X-Men" films) but with Spider-Man revealing to the world that his real name is Peter Parker, Marvel is sacrificing one of the core components of its most famous character's mythology.

It is also creating a major divide between the comic-book continuity and the hit Hollywood franchise.

"It can be very intimidating if you don't know where the story is going or how it ends; we do, so we're just excited about where it takes us and the story possibilities it offers," Joe Quesada, Marvel's editor-in-chief, said Wednesday.

He also promised that Marvel won't be backing-off of Spidey's big revelation by zapping the public with a forget-me ray or saying the press conference was a dream or a hoax.

"We won't be pulling a Bobby Ewing with this."

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Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: sheshothim on June 15, 2006, 01:50:21 PM
Weird
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on June 15, 2006, 02:18:53 PM
Spider-Man was teenage journalist Peter Parker??
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on July 23, 2006, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: Walrus on June 15, 2006, 02:18:53 PM
Spider-Man was teenage journalist Peter Parker??

I call bullshit!
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on July 23, 2006, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: GodDamnImDaMan on July 23, 2006, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: Walrus on June 15, 2006, 02:18:53 PM
Spider-Man was teenage journalist Peter Parker??

I call bullshit!

Where the hell did you come from?
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on August 16, 2006, 12:24:38 PM
All I'm saying is I need more proof that this "Parker" is spiderman!
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on August 16, 2006, 09:39:35 PM
Try reading the first issue of Spider-Man.  It's full of spoilers.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Gamblour. on March 23, 2007, 11:27:30 AM
I read what I consider to be not only the best graphic novel that I've read so far (I'm only at 4), but it's also quite possibly my favorite book of all time.

Blankets by Craig Thompson is a beautiful, sad coming-of-age story with some of the most amazing art. Every page is incredible. It's long, about 500 pages, but goes by very quickly (and when I say that, it's fucking true. I read slower than anybody). I HIGHLY recommend this to anyone. I'm going to pick up his other two, Goodbye Chunky Rice and a memoir on his trip to Paris.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Stefen on March 24, 2007, 12:26:37 AM
Quote from: Gamblour. on March 23, 2007, 11:27:30 AM
I read what I consider to be not only the best graphic novel that I've read so far (I'm only at 4), but it's also quite possibly my favorite book of all time.

Blankets by Craig Thompson is a beautiful, sad coming-of-age story with some of the most amazing art. Every page is incredible. It's long, about 500 pages, but goes by very quickly (and when I say that, it's fucking true. I read slower than anybody). I HIGHLY recommend this to anyone. I'm going to pick up his other two, Goodbye Chunky Rice and a memoir on his trip to Paris.

Pass.

Just tell me what it's about so I can bring it up in conversations.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: pete on March 24, 2007, 12:30:24 AM
I dunno who's nerdier:
1) the guy reading comicbooks
or
2) the guy who just wants to pretend that he reads comicbooks to impress his fellow comicbook reading friends.
or
3) guy who is typing this post on a pleasant friday night.

I'm leaving the house real soon, I swear.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 24, 2007, 01:51:36 AM
In the time you wrote that, you could've been reading a comic book.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Stefen on March 24, 2007, 02:11:33 AM
I don't read, I write.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Pubrick on March 24, 2007, 02:16:16 AM
Quote from: Gamblour. on March 23, 2007, 11:27:30 AM
I read what I consider to be not only the best graphic novel that I've read so far (I'm only at 4), but it's also quite possibly my favorite book of all time.

Blankets by Craig Thompson is a beautiful, sad coming-of-age story with some of the most amazing art. Every page is incredible. It's long, about 500 pages, but goes by very quickly (and when I say that, it's fucking true. I read slower than anybody). I HIGHLY recommend this to anyone. I'm going to pick up his other two, Goodbye Chunky Rice and a memoir on his trip to Paris.

slightly green and i second/third/(first) your recommendation:

Quote from: Pubrick on December 03, 2005, 07:08:44 AM
Quote from: rené on November 12, 2005, 08:00:11 PM
After finishing Anna Karenina, I've decided to take a break, however brief, from the traditional novel.

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"Illustrated novels," they call them.
A beautiful art style and exceptionally written.
I recommend this to any and every one.

They also have their own "indie" soundtrack that the kiddies are sure to love!


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wow i started reading this and then remembered seeing the cover here before. i'm about a third of the way through and have made my own soundtrack to it (smog, cat power, bonnie 'prince' billy, 13 & God, beth orton). should i steal the one u posted? does it add an element of self-consciousness to it? this is by far the fastest and easiest read i've had all year, the pages practically turn themselves. well i've enjoyed it a lot and will try to post once i'm done, so i don't care if i just jinxed it, i've got about an hour left in my playlist.

120 pages in just under two hours according to my playlist, i guess i'm reading it slow.. (i'd read 50 the nite before just waiting for letterman!) even at 2 pages a minute this massive thing would give u more than 4.5 hours of entertainment, with half the effort of a normal book. yeah it's a good break from the conventional novel, it's funny u had come off Anna Karenina cos i'm taking a break from Crime and Punishment.. comparable? i guess we'll never know.

Quote from: Slightly Green on December 03, 2005, 01:28:14 PM
Yeah, I read it in a day or two. The fastest for me in a while. I think the only other novels that I'd read that fast were Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass.
Karenina took me months, but soooo worth it.
As far as the soundtrack goes, well, it fits the mood to a T, to me.
You can preview three of the tracks on the author's site:
Doot Doot Garden (http://www.dootdootgarden.com/)

Quote from: Pubrick on December 04, 2005, 09:31:35 PM
oh yeah i can see that working. too late now i finished it yesterday. amazing read, i second your recommendation to everyone.

it's weird, the weather right now is completely inappropriate, since basically the whole book is set in this snow-covered winter, i finished it on the hottest day of the year. :shock: i'm not even kidding, it was (as right now) at least 100° F. funny cos at one point craig's brother Phil cries in agony during a summer sequence about it being that hot.

i was saddened by some developments later in the book, but ultimately it's a life affirming tale of faith and redemption, the kind i like!

Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Stefen on March 24, 2007, 02:18:54 AM
Longest 500 page post ever.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on August 09, 2007, 07:04:58 PM
I was taking a Narrative Illustration class this summer, and thought I'd dive as deep as I can into reading the authors the prof mentioned.
Some of us are familiar with this author, at least:

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Good-bye, Chunky Rice - Craig Thompson
It's short and cute. Read it in one sitting. Not too much say about it. It's no Blankets, of course.

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Summer Blonde - Adrian Tomine
A collection of short stories, can't remember how many, exactly. More mature subject matter than the previous. The prof seems to think alot of Tomine, but I thought this was just alright.

I re-read the Akira series. The art is really quite wonderful and the story's very different from the movie. The translation's a bit sketchy and borders on the side of cheese every now and then, but I recommend it.

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Tales From the Farm - Jeff Lemire
Nice simple style. Quick read. First in an auto-biographical trilogy, if I'm not mistaken.

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Black Hole - Charles Burns
This book was a monster and a joy to read. Beautiful thick, dark art. Creepy. Lots of sex. Lots of finely sculpted nudity. Takes place in 70s, in High School, and involved promiscuous teens contracting a strange STD that  causes various deformations.


Good stuff. :yabbse-grin:
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Pubrick on August 11, 2007, 08:38:05 PM
Quote from: Lucid on August 10, 2007, 06:40:45 AM
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Who's read it?  Opinions?

yes and the second part.

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i thought it was pretty funny like with the nuns (maybe that's from the second book), and the style itself always compliments the tone of the narrative.. whatever that means. it reminded me of maus in the way it mixed important historical background with an autobiographical story without letting the emotional thread of her character succumb to the arguably bigger political picture. maus was more amazing in this regard of course.

oh and it's got that basic parents/child relationship of sacrifice and redemption which is pretty much my favourite theme of all time. although i did think she was a bit of an idiot in Austria (again, probly book 2). it's been made into an animated feature which won the jury prize in cannes, so, there's that.

here's the movie's official site, it has trailers, making of, a blog, cool stuff http://www.sonypictures.com/classics/persepolis/ someone should probably make a thread about it.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: matt35mm on August 11, 2007, 10:44:04 PM
I've read Persepolis 1 and 2 as well, and I'd certainly recommend them.  If you're thinking about it (which you seem to be), go ahead and read them.  It won't take more than a couple of days to get through them.

The simple, hard images complement the tone of the book, which is chiefly interested in irony and contrast.  A lot of that irony and contrast is shown through the different cultures, and Marji's understanding and comprehension of what's going on around her.  A lot of power is generated with this approach, and it can go from humorous to devastating in a snap.

The emotion of her personal story and her family is a good balance to the harder elements that I mentioned above.  As P suggested, it doesn't get sappy and sentimental, but rather lends an appropriate humanity that adds to the big picture.

Satrapi does a good job of portraying her own coming of age in a truthful way, not shying away from the embarrassment and confusion that we know all too well.  And yup, I agree with P that Austria must've been one of the more idiocy-concentrated times in her life.  Satrapi would probably agree with that, too.

It's a good book, though it felt a bit limited to be a great book.  As I said, it takes about 2 or 3 days to read, and Satrapi can really only summarize and show the key moments of her adolesence.  She chooses wisely which parts of her life to incorporate, and tells those stories well, but you don't (and maybe it's impossible in this form) get the full weight of a life that you can get with novels, in which you must spend much more time with the characters.

It's very much worth the time it takes to read, though, and is even, in some parts, eye-opening.  I look forward to the movie.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 07, 2009, 08:11:04 PM
I have nothing but utter joy to share in regards to this following book:

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If you're into Batman, this cannot be missed.  It's a collection of Red Rain, Bloodstorm and Crimson Mist.  Kelley Jones is responsible for making my favorite depiction of Batman.  It is dark, visceral, somber and erotic.

I had almost forgotten about this series, but I picked it up recently and it really took me back to when it was new and upon reading it, my childbrain was warped into believing that superheroes could not only be dark, but they could be pitch black.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: Pas on May 07, 2009, 09:13:57 PM
It looks very weird, Batman is a vampire ? Does one have to like vampires to enjoy the thing ? Explanation:

I don't like vampires per se.

I love Preacher which has a vampire in the story.
I hate Twilight or anything reallllllly vampire centric.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 08, 2009, 03:10:50 PM
Without giving much away if you plan on reading it, it's more Batman mythos than Vampire, it's just a really fascinating illumination of how similar Batman is to Vampires, but how he strives for the opposite sort of lifestyle.  Like how he walks the street at night and assumes solitude from society, not to live off of it, but to protect it.  By becoming a vampire, he is thrust into very existential situations of personal survival vs. survival of people he protects since now he thrives off of blood, which in a frenzy, must be obtained in any way possible.  Therefore, he may have to make people bleed in order to protect them.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on May 11, 2009, 10:55:38 AM
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Go read this now. Best Batman/graphic novel EVER!
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: squints on May 13, 2009, 02:08:45 AM
while "to see please visit www.coverbrowser.com" is one of the best batman/graphic novels out there i just wanna say i completed preludes and nocturnes...pretty good so far


guy at the store said he didn't have Preacher (thanks for the suggestion stefen) but i'm gonna order it online.

best part of this first bit of sandman is the 24 hours in a diner part. that shit was fucked!
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on May 13, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
a wise guy eh? See if you can figure this out...

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Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 14, 2009, 04:49:08 AM
When it comes to Sandman, you can't go wrong with Golden Age.

Wesley Dodds is one of the finest heroes around.  Even if you're more wrapped up in the dreamlike realm that's more prevalent in newer Sandman, Mystery Theater isn't written by Gaiman, but this is better to me.  It plays with the conventions of dreams and reality in a more straightforward manner, interweaving the flexibility of the two with pulp rag oriented stories about murderers, hustlers, thugs, etc.  His title explores a lot of terrirtory that Batman treads, but with more grit and surreality (depending on the issue) but it can get downright hallucinatory if you're into that.  And I am.

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Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on May 14, 2009, 03:02:21 PM
A Game of You has always been one of my favorite Sandman collections, as well as The Kindly Ones.

Also, have you checked out Gaiman's collaboration with Amano of FF fame? The artwork is, expectedly, quite beautiful and the tale involves alot of Japanese folktales/ghost stories.
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 15, 2009, 01:09:20 AM
I loved it probably because I'm so nostalgiac for FF6 (not to say either lack any merit.  FF6 is probably my favorite of the series, but that's another story completely.)
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on May 19, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: Walrus on May 15, 2009, 01:09:20 AM
I loved it probably because I'm so nostalgiac for FF6 (not to say either lack any merit.  FF6 is probably my favorite of the series, but that's another story completely.)

Nostalgiac for my cockaroonie?
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: polkablues on March 06, 2011, 12:12:01 PM
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Pretty cool Google logo in honor of Will Eisner's birthday. 
Title: Re: Comic Books / Graphic Novels
Post by: WorldForgot on March 04, 2020, 06:38:28 PM
A gallery of Richard Corben's Pulp + Genre coverz - NSFW (https://www.heavymetal.com/news/richard-corben-comics-fantagor-grim-wit-slow-death-heavy-metal-magazine/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=corben&utm_medium=blog)

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