Comic-Con 2013: 'Superman & Batman' movie will follow 'Man of Steel'
Source: LA Times
Warner Bros. is about to bring together two of its most iconic heroes: Superman and Batman will unite in a new film, the follow-up to "Man of Steel," set for release in 2015.
According to two sources with knowledge of the movie, Warner Bros. intends to announce the news at its Comic-Con International panel Saturday morning. Said a Warner Bros. spokesperson, "We don't comment on rumors regarding these properties."
"Man of Steel" director Zack Snyder is expected to reunite with screenwriter David S. Goyer and star Henry Cavill for the new film. It's unlikely Christian Bale will step back into the bat suit, as the actor has indicated publicly that he has moved on from his days as Bruce Wayne.
"Man of Steel" producer and "Dark Knight" trilogy director Christopher Nolan is expected by some to produce the project, but the exact nature of his involvement is unclear.
The move marks the culmination of years of effort on the part of Warner Bros. and DC Comics to bring their superheroes together in a similar fashion to their primary competitor Marvel, which successfully combined its superheroes into a $1.5-billion box-office hit with "The Avengers."
In the comic world, the two heroes are teaming up in a new series, "Batman/Superman," by writer Greg Pak and artist Jae Lee.
UPDATE:
Director Zack Snyder Unites Superman and Batman in One Explosive New Film
BURBANK, CA, July 20, 2013 – On the heels of the worldwide success of "Man of Steel," director Zack Snyder is bringing together the two greatest Super Heroes of all time—Batman and Superman—for the first time on the big screen.
The announcement was made today by Greg Silverman, President, Creative Development and Worldwide Production, and Sue Kroll, President, Worldwide Marketing and International Distribution,Warner Bros. Pictures. The current hit, "Man of Steel," has taken in more than $630 million at the worldwide box office to date, and climbing. Along with its star, Henry Cavill, the upcomingfilm brings back Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne and Diane Lane.
The new Batman has yet to be cast.
Snyder is co-writing the story with David S. Goyer, who will then pen the screenplay. Production is expected to begin in 2014, with an anticipated release date inSummer 2015.
Silverman stated, "Zack Snyder is an incredibly talented filmmaker, but beyond that, he's a fan first and he utterly gets this genre. We could not think of anyone better suited to the task of bringing these iconic Super Heroes to the screen in his own way." Kroll added, "We are thrilled to be back in business with Zack and his team on this next movie. The success of 'Man of Steel' is a wonderful testament to the love and support that both fans and new audiences, worldwide, have for these characters. We are very excited to see what Zack has in store for all of us." Diane Nelson, President, DC Entertainment, noted,"Superman and Batman together on the big screen is a dream come true for DC fans everywhere. All of us at DCEntertainment could not be more excited for Zack's continuing vision for the DC Universe." Zack Snyder, who made a surprise appearance at Comic-Con today, breaking the news to audiences there, later said, "I'm so excited to begin working again with Henry Cavill in the world we created, and I can't wait to expand the DC Universe in this next chapter. Let's face it, it's beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off, since they are the greatest Super Heroes in the world." The new film brings back Charles Roven and Deborah Snyder as producers. This time, Christopher Nolan and Emma Thomas are serving as executive producers, along with Benjamin Melniker and Michael E. Uslan. Thomas offered, "Whilst our 'Dark Knight' trilogy is complete, we have every confidence that Zack's fresh interpretation will take the character in a new and exciting direction. His vision for Superman opened the door to a whole new universe and we can't wait to see what Zack does with these characters." The film is based on Superman characters created by Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster, and Batman characters created by Bob Kane, published by DC Entertainment.
As I said on Twitter (https://twitter.com/modage)... Now I know what Marvel nerds feel like. Issues with MAN OF STEEL aside, I am jumping out of my skin right now.
I would be super excited if I didn't get extremely disappointed with how Man of Steel turned out. I have no faith in Zack Snyder.
Ben Affleck Is the New Batman
Source: Variety
Ben Affleck is Batman.
The actor will replace Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne in the upcoming untitled Superman-Batman feature for Warner Bros., the studio announced Thursday.
"Man of Steel" actors Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne and Diane Lane are reprising their roles with Zack Snyder on board to direct.
The film is slated to bow on July 17, 2015.
Oh well. Fuck it.
Am I the only one who's fine with this?
Nope. No matter how successful Affleck is, dude can't catch a break (from the peanut gallery, that is). Get off his nuts, give him a chance.
who has ever given a "bad" batman performance in any of these fucking movies?
clooney is arguably the weakest batman and he was ok.
batman can be played by anyone. come on, it's not fucking hamlet. it's not michael corleone.
the problem is not who plays batman but who directs the film. and with this guy, everything is fucked.
this movie will suck, no matter what. game over. let's move on.
Quote from: Alexandro on August 23, 2013, 01:23:07 AM
who has ever given a "bad" batman performance in any of these fucking movies?
It's weird to say because the movies were so good, but Christian Bale, kinda.
Whatever happens, I want there to be more of this.
Quote from: ono on August 23, 2013, 12:10:33 AM
Nope. No matter how successful Affleck is, dude can't catch a break (from the peanut gallery, that is). Get off his nuts, give him a chance.
He seems like a nice dude and I'm glad he's restored his career but he's always been an actor with an extremely limited range. He works best when he's playing something low-key, directing himself, etc. When you put him in a genre piece or giant studio thing or behind a mask, he just can't really pull it off.
A. I think someone as huge as him brings too much baggage to the role that you'll never believe him as Batman. (Same thing for Clooney.)
B. I don't think he can pull it off. Unless he's been hiding his acting chops for the last 15 years, he's never given a performance that leads me to believe he can pull off 'dark.'
and C. It's crazy to me that after everything Affleck went through to restore his career, he's immediately going back to what killed it in the first place.
I still hope he can pull it off but Snyder was already starting down a peg from the issues of "Man Of Steel." I was hoping naively that he and Goyer might be able to course correct with the second one but having a harder time thinking this might be the case now that he's hobbled with Affleck too.
This affleck news doesn't bother me as much as it seems to be bothering a lot of folks.
I was actually kind of excited until i realized that Zack Snyder will be directing this too.
I just can't fucking stand this guy
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I haven't liked a single one of his movies (in fact I've hated most of them) and there is NO WAY this will be good with him directing. Just no fucking way.
Quote from: modage on August 23, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
Quote from: ono on August 23, 2013, 12:10:33 AM
Nope. No matter how successful Affleck is, dude can't catch a break (from the peanut gallery, that is). Get off his nuts, give him a chance.
He seems like a nice dude and I'm glad he's restored his career but he's always been an actor with an extremely limited range. He works best when he's playing something low-key, directing himself, etc. When you put him in a genre piece or giant studio thing or behind a mask, he just can't really pull it off.
A. I think someone as huge as him brings too much baggage to the role that you'll never believe him as Batman. (Same thing for Clooney.)
B. I don't think he can pull it off. Unless he's been hiding his acting chops for the last 15 years, he's never given a performance that leads me to believe he can pull off 'dark.'
and C. It's crazy to me that after everything Affleck went through to restore his career, he's immediately going back to what killed it in the first place.
I still hope he can pull it off but Snyder was already starting down a peg from the issues of "Man Of Steel." I was hoping naively that he and Goyer might be able to course correct with the second one but having a harder time thinking this might be the case now that he's hobbled with Affleck too.
Agree with this. Actually to me Affleck is a character actor trapped in a leading man's body. His best stuff is when he plays smaller, more off-the-wall roles.
The internet's furious reaction to this is really depressing. It's just a superhero movie. Who cares.
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Is he really the next Batman? Or was he just cast as Batman in this one upcoming Superman film?
They already have this Superman & Batman or Superman vs Batman movie slated for a 2015 release. It has to start shooting in a year by the latest. They can't cast and create a new Batman franchise in that time. They put themselves in a corner. So they offer Christian Bale $50 million to do the film. He says no. Now they have to find someone who can just step into this iconic role without any setup.
Affleck is a placeholder until the next franchise. He's so busy as a director now it seems difficult to see him committing to a franchise. It cold be a one time thing. But if the film is a success, I'm sure they'll be offering Affleck $75 million to direct and act in the first film of the next Batman franchise.
Quote from: Sleepless on August 23, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
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Yeah. But Heath Ledger was a young actor. Ben Affleck won't be suddenly great. But he will be fine.
in general this isn't my party, so party where you party and how you party, but i did laugh right now because my friend, who also parties differently, is enthusiastic about the to the wonder guy being batman now
Zack Snyder Explains Why Ben Affleck was Chosen As BATMAN
Press Release from director Zack Snyder:
"Ben provides an interesting counter-balance to Henry's Superman. He has the acting chops to create a layered portrayal of a man who is older and wiser than Clark Kent and bears the scars of a seasoned crime fighter, but retain the charm that the world sees in billionaire Bruce Wayne. I can't wait to work with him."
Businessman Chris Nolan gonna business, man. $£$£.
I'm not violently opposed to Affleck but it's just such a boring choice. In any case I hope he's an older detective, scientistish figure instead of beat-em-up throaty Baleman. That would be cool.
Buzz that Bryan Cranston is possibly Lex Luthor.
Maybe that'll shut people up for a while.
Bryan Cranston confirmed to play Lex Luthor in Batman/Man of Steel?
Bryan Cranston has reportedly been cast as Lex Luthor in the Batman/Superman team-up sequel to Man of Steel.
The Breaking Bad star is said to have signed up to play Superman's long-time nemesis for a minimum of six films which could extend to ten.
An official announcement of Cranston's casting will apparently be scheduled for after Breaking Bad finishes in order for the news to ride the wave of the finale, say Cosmic Book News.
A source told the website: 'Cranston truly is a dream casting for Luthor'.
Bryan will be joining a cast which includes Henry Cavill as Superman, and Ben Affleck who was revealed to have been cast as Batman this week.
People who were against Affleck landing the part – and there were quite a few – may not be pleased to hear the latest reports which say the Argo director and star could allegedly play Bruce Wayne for a total of 13 appearances in DC films.
Mark Strong was previously rumoured to be in line for the role of Lex Luthor, but having already appeared in one DC film (Green Lantern as Sinestro) was a factor in DC deciding not to go with him, as they are interested in having him play the part a second time.
The hotly-anticipated Batman/Man of Steel film is out in 2015.
Also, I'm not sure if this was mentioned previously but Affleck might be contributing to the script.
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 25, 2013, 03:18:47 AMThe Breaking Bad star is said to have signed up to play Superman's long-time nemesis for a minimum of six films which could extend to ten.
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 25, 2013, 03:18:47 AMthe Argo director and star could allegedly play Bruce Wayne for a total of 13 appearances in DC films.
These numbers are not making sense to me. Are those just really high estimates? Is this a contract thing?
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 25, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 25, 2013, 03:18:47 AMThe Breaking Bad star is said to have signed up to play Superman's long-time nemesis for a minimum of six films which could extend to ten.
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 25, 2013, 03:18:47 AMthe Argo director and star could allegedly play Bruce Wayne for a total of 13 appearances in DC films.
These numbers are not making sense to me. Are those just really high estimates? Is this a contract thing?
If it's true, it's similar to the contract Sam Jackson signed to play Nick Furry. His was a few years ago but was for something like 9 or 10 pictures.
Wow, Superhero films really demand a person's utmost servitude.
But when you're making millions I guess it's pretty hard to complain.
I'm not an Affleck fan when it comes to acting chops, but I also sign off on the idea Batman is one of the easier roles play. I think Ben Affleck still wants to be a major movie star and knows because he signed off on Batman right when Warner Brothers have franchise crossover in their sightlines so you're going to see Ben Affleck as Batman in a lot of kind of roles. You will see him tag team with Superman, get his own movies, and be in Justice League movies. The majority of these movies have little chance to be very good. Whatever chance for an independent Batman film series with their own thematic interest died with Nolan (good and bad results there). Now it's going to be franchise-city and I'm guessing people are going to have to rationalize the results (Yes, it will be better than Marvel, but what's that saying?). Zach Snyder isn't very good. That isn't going to change. I understand Ben Affleck wants some writing input, but what can he do? The movies will have to have exorbitant amount of explosions and effects to justify their blockbuster look. I'm guessing the best Affleck will do is keep Batman from getting silly.
Gal Gadot to Play Wonder Woman in 'Batman vs. Superman'
Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill are set to star
Source: Variety
Gal Gadot will play Wonder Woman in the untitled "Batman vs. Superman" movie.
Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck are set to star with Zack Snyder directing.
"Wonder Woman is arguably one of the most powerful female characters of all time and a fan favorite in the DC Universe. Not only is Gal an amazing actress, but she also has that magical quality that makes her perfect for the role. We look forward to audiences discovering Gal in the first feature film incarnation of this beloved character," Snyder said.
Variety first reported that Gadot, "G.I. Joe: Retaliation" thesp Elodie Yung and Olga Kurylenko had tested for the part that was believed to be Wonder Woman.
The Wonder Woman rumor has been kicking around for some time, and insiders believe the plan is to have not just Batman and Superman in the film but several members of the Justice League as well. It's unclear which members, but Wonder Woman (Diana Prince) and the Flash are said to be locks to make an appearance in some fashion, whether that's a significant role or a cameo.
https://twitter.com/GalGadot/status/408311378953244672
Warners will also look to now cast the villain with "Zero Dark Thirty" and "300: Rise of the Empire" star Callan Mulvey someone Warner Bros. is eyeing to play the role.
Pic will bow July 17, 2015. Gadot was last seen in "The Fast and Furious 6″ and is repped by ICM Partners.
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Jesse Eisenberg As Lex Luthor & Jeremy Irons As Alfred In Superman-Batman Pic
BY THE DEADLINE TEAM
BREAKING: Two more key roles have been cast in Zack Snyder's upcoming Superman-Batman movie for Warner Bros. Jesse Eisenberg will play Superman's arch enemy Lex Luthor and Jeremy Irons will play Bruce Wayne's butler/mentor Alfred in the pic, which is set for a May 6, 2016 release. They join Henry Cavill, reprising his role as Superman/Clark Kent in what Warners is billing as a sequel to its Man Of Steel; Ben Affleck as Batman/Bruce Wayne; and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman/Diana Prince. Man of Steel stars Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne and Diane Lane also are in the new pic.
Both castings show the young-ification of the DC Comics franchise; Caine is 15 years older than Irons, and Gene Hackman, the most prominent of past big-screen Lex Luthors, was in his late 30s and early 40s when he played the role. Eisenberg is 30. Irons, who takes over from Michael Caine who played the role in Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy, joins fellow Oscar winner Affleck and Oscar nominees Adams, Fishburne and Lane in the movie; Eisenberg was nominated for an Oscar for The Social Network.
"Lex Luthor is often considered the most notorious of Superman's rivals, his unsavory reputation preceding him since 1940," Snyder said in Warner Bros' announcement of the castings today. "What's great about Lex is that he exists beyond the confines of the stereotypical nefarious villain. He's a complicated and sophisticated character whose intellect, wealth and prominence position him as one of the few mortals able to challenge the incredible might of Superman. Having Jesse in the role allows us to explore that interesting dynamic, and also take the character in some new and unexpected directions." As for Irons: "As everyone knows, Alfred is Bruce Wayne's most trusted friend, ally and mentor, a noble guardian and father figure. He is an absolutely critical element in the intricate infrastructure that allows Bruce Wayne to transform himself into Batman," Snyder said. "It is an honor to have such an amazingly seasoned and gifted actor as Jeremy taking on the important role of the man who mentors and guides the guarded and nearly impervious façade that encapsulates Bruce Wayne."
Chris Terrio is currently writing the script from a screenplay by David S. Goyer. Charles Roven and Deborah Snyder are producing, with Benjamin Melniker, Michael E. Uslan, Wesley Coller, David S. Goyer and Geoff Johns executive producing.
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 31, 2014, 01:39:13 PMChris Terrio is currently writing the script from a screenplay by David S. Goyer.
Say what now.
I'm sure everyone's already seen this by now, but here's Batfleck regardless:
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"Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice"
Oh dear god, why.
"Summer of 2016, Evil Hits the Snooze Button"
I can smell the tie-in licensing deal with Starbucks from here.
So the alleged list of upcoming DC comics films has been leaked, and I for one am so fucking excited. Let's hope they're good.
May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2
Quote from: Sleepless on June 12, 2014, 04:28:04 PM
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
For the rest I don't care. On the other hand I will probably start getting bad dreams about Snyder's tentacles reaching "Sandman".
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Teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfUnkBfdZ4
Snyder is taking failing upward to new heights.
Batfleck looks huge AF.
This parody has a lot of money.
Quote from: ©brad on April 18, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
Snyder is taking failing upward to new heights.
right?
was clicking around imdb and noticed zach snyder is also attached to direct both the upcoming justice league movies. and for some reason "chris terrio" is attached as the writer for both those movies, and he's 1/2 the writing team here, along with david goyer who been around a bit and is also an executive producer, as is christopher nolan of course
this is a hot fucking mess and everyone knows it and they just keep marching forward and laughing to the bank. i absolutely consider this a part of american trash culture and it's such a big deal here and around the world so that's fascinating
Does Batman have three different masks now? First one looks like a piece of rubber pulled over his head, second one looks normal, third one looks like Iron Man.
Quote from: ©brad on April 18, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
Snyder is taking failing upward to new heights.
I know this is the general sentiment but like Michael Bay (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=5319.0) before him, Snyder's films (even with their issues, and God knows they have them) are still more interesting to me than most of what passes for big budget entertainment these days. Film being a visual medium and all, I'll take a "Man Of Steel" with its moments of true visual awe (and massive storytelling problems) over the C+ blandness of "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" any day.
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This little moment of the particles gathering around his fist has more visual poetry than anything in "The Avengers." And for moments like those I'll continue to root for him. I think if he had a great script, he could knock it out of the park.
I don't disagree with that mod (even though I liked The Avengers - not so much Winter Soldier), but it's been so many films that this guy has a terrible script that ruins something that could have been way more awesome. From Watchmen to Sucker Punch to Man of Steel. This new one looks like a mess as well. I'm not sure the visuals replace the issues with the script for me.
Dude can certainly do cool stuff with a camera, and the trailer for this shows promise. But good directors should elevate the script they're given, or know when they've been handed a bad one. He's demonstrated that he can do neither. I think the frustrating thing with Snyder is most of his films have something cool or unique, and you watch a trailer for his next one and think, okay this is the one where he gets all the pieces right and delivers a home run. Remember how excited many of us were when the Man of Steel trailer dropped? And then we got a C+. He seems more adept and interested in visual flourishes than he does with story.
Snyder is like a boring Michael Bay. He's taking more from anime than the other directors, which is the only thing that's still keeping him interesting. But that Superman cap cited by mod, that supposed visual poetry is in like every episode of Dragon Ball Z or the Last Airbender.
But for me the problem is more basic, and harder for me to critique - I simply don't buy into his world. Michael Bay at least invents the stuff that we're annoyed/intrigued by - this Snyder guy sees a Tarantino movie and figures out how he can turn them into superhero movies. Sucker Punch was a horrible attempt to re-do Kill Bill, and that new Superman tried to take Kill Bill's Superman speech and turn it into a very very very long movie. Past that - i don't know, he's just not cool. His characters fight like Power Rangers and he thinks if you slow down/ elongate the moments in the script are supposed to be fun everyone is going to take him seriously.
i would've rewritten it as "that's a three-syllable word too big for one little mind."
pete's on the money about Hach Snyder.
this movie looks like a cemetery of actors and ideas.
jeremy irons. come on , man.
Up until the new trailer, I was in the "going to see it but not expecting much" camp. Now i'm not even interested. These movies are really making Nolan's Batman films age well.
I'm definitely in the minority in looking forward to this film, and indeed the whole slate of promised forthcoming DC films. X-Men aside, I was never a Marvel fan; though I am now a huge fan of the Guardians of the Galaxy movies too. But the DC characters - and Aquaman especially - are mine. So I'm excited.
Sure, the marketing Warners have done has been terrible throughout. There have been a lot of behind-the-scenes stories that have come out which have done very little to boost confidence that they know what they're doing. And the trailers have some classicly terrible Synder moments.
But I still came away from watching that most recent trailer which a huge goofy grin on my face.
This movie is not going to be anything special as a piece of cinematic art or probably even mainstream blockbuster entertainment, but damn if I'm not going to keep being excited about it and do my best to love every minute of it on its own terms.
Look on the positive side: none of us are going to go into this with anything but really low expectations. Let's just hope the final product can surpass them.
the DC vs Marvel conversation is always fun to me because there's absolutely no way a person would say that without being willing to see both movies anyway
you guys, this is fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBJyp2LFHgk
The one with Batman and Superman fighting for five minutes for no real reason is bad.
I have a card, I can watch as many movies as I want every month, I still regret to have watched it. I knew it would be bad. I needed to witness it, though.
Being a Superman fan, this was one of the most disappointing and frustrating movie experiences of my life (as it's been with the last three Superman films). There are SPOILERS but who cares because honestly nothing happens in this movie that anyone should ever care about or worry about SPOILERS.
It's two and half hours long, and there is absolutely no plot, no character development, no reason why actions are taken, and no consequences for any of the actions. It's one long, ridiculous, over the top, terribly acted scene with dumb dialogue after another.
The most ridiculous thing is that the whole Batman vs. Superman fight which lasts 80% of the movie could have been solved with both of them having a coffee at Starbucks for 3 minutes and talking about why Superman was trying to save the Earth from Zod and that he is a good man. Done. They would have been best friends instead of trying to kill each other for no fucking reason.
Then towards the end, they become friends and there is also no reason why they should. Only because both of their moms are called Martha. It's fucking insane and infuriating that Snyder is a moron, treats the audience like morons, and we all bought tickets and still make this one of the largest openings in history.
It should have flopped, so that he gets fired because the DC Universe will be a nightmare for the next decade because of this guy. Wonder Woman comes out of nowhere and makes no sense. There's no reason why she should be here other than to promote another movie that will suck.
The idiotic Lex Luthor is super over the top and has zero character development. There is a whole plot line with a Senator and a dude in a wheelchair that makes no sense, doesn't affect the overall plot or change anything, and then it moves on to the next bullshit. There is not one funny line in the movie, or one relaxing moment where you get to see the characters just be normal. It's all one tense, dark, angry scene after another.
I could rant about this piece of shit for more than two hours but I don't want to be as disrespectful as Zack Snyder.
SPOILERQuote from: Kal on March 26, 2016, 12:51:29 PMThen towards the end, they become friends and there is also no reason why they should. Only because both of their moms are called Martha.
I heard this on the Rotten Tomatoes podcast, and I wasn't 100% sure if they were joking or not. Is it played sincerely?
I agree with Kal, this movie is insulting in a strange way: not just because it is stupid, not because there is no story or characters, but because the creators know that and don't care, they seem to feel like this is what we deserve, what we want, what's to be expected. Once again, I watched it. I'm guilty.
i don't have plans to see it because it's so long. if this was an hour and a half i'd be there today. it's Batman and Superman, i get the appeal. a thing that's happening here is since i don't get why people like comic book movies so much, i also don't get why people don't like comic book movies so much. it seems to me to be functioning as a completely normal movie: people are finding their reasons for liking and not liking it. excuses and reasons are being made from private perspectives that sometimes feel extraordinary when heard. the sum value is that people are seeing a movie and having their own thoughts, that's all that's happening, that's literally all that ever happens.
people liking and not liking a movie doesn't stir me too much (i try not to let it). all that's on my mind is movies. in particular for this i want to see Ezra Miller. i desire youtube clips of every scene Ezra Miller is in.
also mentioning that Kal "laid it down" and Drenk toasted.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on March 26, 2016, 01:08:08 PM
SPOILER
Quote from: Kal on March 26, 2016, 12:51:29 PMThen towards the end, they become friends and there is also no reason why they should. Only because both of their moms are called Martha.
I heard this on the Rotten Tomatoes podcast, and I wasn't 100% sure if they were joking or not. Is it played sincerely?
Nope. Batman is finally about to kill Superman and about 1 minute later he calls him "my friend". All because their moms are called Martha. They don't even discuss what a funny coincidence it is and laugh about it either, which would have made it more normal. It's really nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwXfv25xJUw
It is fun to read how much Luthor's plan made no sense in that movie.
http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/what-was-lex-luthors-batman-v-superman-plan.html
Yeah, this movie is as bad as people are saying. I don't know who is to blame. Warner Brothers clearly does not know how to manage its properties. After Watchmen, which I still think is the best comic book movie ever, I thought Snyder understood what makes these characters appealing, but then he made Man of Steel, which was absolute shit. The guy clearly wants to make The Dark Knight Returns, but the studio wont let him, so he sneaks in pieces here and there. Add to this the studio imperative to expand the universe for more spinoff movies and this is the result -- in other words, a holy fucking mess.